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Sony On PS4: “Never Been First. We’ve Never Been Cheapest. It’s About Being The Best”

Sony Computer Entertainment US boss Jack Tretton has confirmed to GameTrailers that they’re not looking to rush the PlayStation 4 to market to battle Wii U and the next Xbox console from Microsoft. Tretton claims that the company would rather “build a better” and more expensive console and launch it after its rivals, than rushing it out. Good idea?

“We’ve never been first. We’ve never been cheapest. It’s about being the best,” he said. “If you can build a better machine and it’s going to come out a little bit later, that’s better than rushing something to market that’s going to run out of gas for the long term.

“Ideally, in a perfect world, you want the best machine that ships first that’s cheapest. But the number one goal is to be the best machine and that’s what we’re always focused on.”

157 thoughts on “Sony On PS4: “Never Been First. We’ve Never Been Cheapest. It’s About Being The Best””

    1. Nintendo promised the Wii U was for US, the true gamers. This E3 was their chance to get those gamers back to the Nintendo brand. They broke that promise and lost them. Even if they anounce AAA titles in the future, they won’t get those gamers back because the trust is gone.

      Casual gamers are gone too, or at least their number has dropped. Casual gamers are not going to buy a new Wii U. They are happy with their old Wii. Why would they get the new one. That’s why they’re called casual. So i don’t see nintendo being on top!

      I’m a Nintendo Fan, but this E3 Nintendo has dissapointed allot!

            1. Not really sure where “lies” and “tricks” fit in, but they’re right when they say that Nintendo’s offering a rather disappointing…

              HOWEVER, most people seem to agree that all of “The Big Three” has disappointing presentations and some are even going as far as saying that E3 was a waste of time this year, so it’s not just a Nintendo issue.

        1. They did NOT do fine. They did absolutely terrible. There was literally NOTHING new shown, other than Nintendo Land, which was not shown in depth, and left a bad taste in everyone’s mouth at the end of the conference. Oh yeah, and that “SiNG” game that expects you to sing karaoke and “get your friends in on the action” despite the fact that their actions aren’t monitored in any way, making this a single-player party game (which in itself is an oxymoron).

          Other than that, no new Wii U or 3DS games were shown. Period. Think about it. Pikmin 3 – confirmed before e3. ZombiU, Assassin’s Creed III, Just Dance 4, etc. – shown during Ubisoft’s conference. Batman, NSMB U, NSMB 2, Luigi’s Mansion DM, Paper Mario SS, Wii Fit U – ALL shown LAST year. Hell, technically, NintendoLand was even shown last year. It’s just a mashup of all their tech demos, updated and rehashed into a theme park game as far as I can tell. I haven’t seen anything other than what they showed at the conference, though, so maybe I’m wrong about that, idk.

          Anyways. I’m a huuuge Nintendo fanboy. You have no idea :P. But you’d have to be incredibly dense not to realize this was a bad conference for them. Ubisoft had the best conference of anyone, honestly, with new Assassin’s Creed footage, the Zombi U announcement, Watch_Dogs, and other stuff. Nintendo should have at least been miles ahead of Microsoft and Sony just because they were detailing a new console! But they weren’t. They showed us footage of a confirmed game, a few new redesigns on the controller (which were shown the day before), some of 3rd party games (all of which were shown before, except Mass Effect 3 which was leaked hours earlier), SiNG that made everyone go “huh?”, and NintendoLand (which certainly doesn’t help their mission to reclaim the hardcore market, now does it?).

          The problem was the lack of first party core experiences. If they had announced a new Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon, Starfox, Mariokart, anything, the crowd would have gone WILD. The game wouldn’t have even had to been announced for release this year, if they would just give them a trailer for 2013, they’d go absolutely nuts with hype. I can understand not releasing a new Zelda so close to Skyward Sword, but there is no reason that Nintendo shouldn’t have had a new Mario game lined up (and NOT New Super Mario Bros U, that does not count. That was a game announced last year, and shown as NSMB Mii last year, plus its not a core mario title).

          What’s even worse is they could have had their best E3 yet! They could have wowed EVERYONE. They just needed 2 or 3 of those core first party franchises on Wii U. I’ll even count Pikmin 3 on that, despite the fact that it’s been announced since forever. If they had shown (for instance) A new Mario 3d platformer (i dunno, ‘Super Mario Universe’), and perhaps Metroid Prime 4. Maybe even a new Star Fox U. If those games were all announced, this would have been Nintendo’s best E3 ever, hands down. Think about how all of those games could benefit from the Wii U GamePad. A minimap and HUD for Mario. A minimap, inventory, and scanner for Metroid. Your ship in Star Fox, controlled with gyro. These are the experiences EVERYONE wanted to see.

          Sorry for the ridiculously long comment. lol. I’ve been wanting to write all this down for a while.

          1. Your extremely wrong. Nintendo wanted and/or had to show all the games they did at E3 before they were released. They didn’t have the time for any future titles. Don’t worry. Nintendo always gives us new games in their 1st party series. Your judging a console on ONE show, which happens to be getting weaker each year.

            1. They didn’t have to. There is no reason they had to make “SiNG”. There’s no reason they had to spend 10 minutes explaining the simple Luigi’s Mansion minigame in NintendoLand. The fact is, they didn’t have ANYTHING new. I’m just in this position where I’m like… really? You’ve worked on this console for the past 4 or 5 years and this is what you have to show for it? Pikmin 3, SiNG, and NintendoLand?

              Even if their lineup was exactly the same, they could have made it a lot better. Essentially, they ruined their own conference by 1.) Confirming Pikmin 3 early, 2.) Mentioning Smash Bros far earlier than they could deliver it, 3.) Showing titles people weren’t interested in, and 4.) Not showing the interesting titles that were confirmed after the show.

              Nintendo would have done phenomenally better if they had kept pikmin 3 under wraps, thrown SiNG out the window, made Ubisoft wait until Nintendo’s press conference to show ZombiU, and shown Project P-100 and Game&Wario. Even without the next 3D mario platformer or the next Zelda or Metroid or Starfox, THAT would have been a great presentation. Still not their best, but great.

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            you do know that nintendo still has yet to show off their 3 secret games!!! wait for Thursday’s ign showcase

      1. what? MOST of the games they showed were hardcore 3rd party games! seriously if you go to there site and look at all of the games they have to show, they are mostly of the mass effect aliens, zombiu and darksiders 2 variaty.

        1. The problem is that it’s about purchasing the new console. I have a PS3 and a Wii. Why would i lay down money for the Wii U when i can get those 3rd party games on my PS3.
          For me to buy the Wii U they need to show me some exclusives that appeal to real gamers. Pikmin and Rayman are the only games which do that atm.
          Again, if i’m going to pay 250-300$ for a console, i need something better.
          Is it wrong to have high expectations? Isn’t this a Next gen console? Sorry, but i’m not feeling the Next Gen vibe right now.

          1. Do you not know how new consoles work? They are new and therefore will be mostly already known titles ported. There will be new and exclusive titles within a year.

            1. This is not how new consoles work. And if it is, then it’s stupid. Even if it was, then they need to at least port upcomming titles and not the ones from last year.
              If you don’t have the games then don’t release the console IMO

        2. The problem isn’t the games shown, the problem is the games that were highlighted. The only brand new “core” Wii U titles that were highlighted were Pikmin 3, Rayman Legends & ZombiU, and two of those were shown the day before (although we got ZombiU gameplay at the conference). Even though ZombiU was definitely the grittiest title at the conference, they still had that “Zombify Yourself” bit that I’m sure turned off a lot of people (I think it would be a lame excuse to, but there you go).

        3. 90% of the core titles they showed were either titles that were already announced, or titles that have been out for months now for other consoles (Mass Effect 3, Batman, Ninja Gaiden 3, etc.).

          Fact is: they needed a Metroid or a REAL Mario game that brough Mario into the HD real properly. They also needed at least a couple more core, exclusive titles. There was no “OMG!” game or announcement this year. And that’s what everyone was waiting for.

          I’m a big fan of all consoles, except PS3 (I loved the first two though), and still think of the SNES as the best console of all time (with the XBOX360 and N64 tied for second), but honestly, Nintendo’s presentation was lame, lame, lame.

          1. so new super mario bros u doesn’t actually exist? because i was pretty sure it was a real mario game…

      2. Come on mate, Nintendo had to not only catch up and go past this gen hardware wise but they also had to create a new online infrastructure, a new way to change gaming, reworking existing ip’s with the concept along with creating whole new games, operating system and functionalities (like the multitasking specifically designed for WiiU, the controller doubling as a remote for the tv etc)

        Yes they lacked the presentation skill / time but nintendo biggest support is from themselves at least within the first few years, they showed a decent number of core third parties. They are doing fine, they just aren’t showing it well

      3. What on earth you talking about? Nintendo didnt fail. They sure as hell succeeded. The gamepad is a step up from motion control and just about everyone I heard is interested in it tho this is gear for casual gamers. They’re releasing the pro controller which is for hard core gamers. And the graphics are more polished and smooth then anything done yet for home console.

        Sure nintendo had some lolmoments lik nintendoland but im sure will be fun anyway. Nintendo is one to innovate not to copy and paste like the other 2 companies.

      4. “Nintendo promised the Wii U was for US…”

        If he did promised, there would be Earthbound game, since it takes place in US-esque land

    2. That is fine with me. I own a PS3 and love the games on it. I pan on getting the Wii U (since i skipped on the Wii… hot into inferior graphics) for the 1st party exclusives and games to share with friends on games night.
      I will get the PS4 when it comes out and will expect the next level of graphical gaming experience. In todays gaming world we are now officially a 2 (at minimum) console house hold. Gone are the days when you would just pick one.

      WiiU/PS3 is all I need for now.

    3. UPDATE: Wii U specs:

      Main Application Processor

      PowerPC architecture.
      Three cores (fully coherent).
      3MB aggregate L2 Cache size.
      core 0: 512 KB
      core 1: 2048 KB
      core 2: 512 KB
      Write gatherer per core.
      Locked (L1d) cache DMA per core.

      Main Memory

      Up to 3GB of main memory (CAT-DEVs only). Note: retail machine will have half devkit memory
      Please note that the quantity of memory available from the Cafe SDK and Operating System may vary.

      Graphics and Video

      Modern unified shader architecture.
      32MB high-bandwidth eDRAM, supports 720p 4x MSAA or 1080p rendering in a single pass.
      HDMI and component video outputs.

      Features

      Unified shader architecture executes vertex, geometry, and pixel shaders
      Multi-sample anti-aliasing (2, 4, or 8 samples per pixel)
      Read from multi-sample surfaces in the shader
      128-bit floating point HDR texture filtering
      High resolution texture support (up to 8192 x 8192)
      Indexed cube map arrays

      8 render targets
      Independent blend modes per render target
      Pixel coverage sample masking
      Hierarchical Z/stencil buffer
      Early Z test and Fast Z Clear
      Lossless Z & stencil compression
      2x/4x/8x/16x high quality adaptive anisotropic filtering modes
      sRGB filtering (gamma/degamma)
      Tessellation unit
      Stream out support
      Compute shader support

      GX2 is a 3D graphics API for the Nintendo Wii U system (also known as Cafe). The API is designed to be as efficient as GX(1) from the Nintendo GameCube and Wii systems. Current features are modeled after OpenGL and the AMD r7xx series of graphics processors. Wii U’s graphics processor is referred to as GPU7.
      Sound and Audio

      Dedicated 120MHz audio DSP.
      Support for 6 channel discrete uncompressed audio (via HDMI).
      2 channel audio for the Cafe DRC controller.
      Monaural audio for the Cafe Remote controller.

      Networking

      802.11 b/g/n Wifi.

      Peripherals

      2 x USB 2.0 host controllers x 2 ports each. = 4 USB slots
      SDCard Slot.

      Built-in Storage

      512MB SLC NAND for System.
      8GB MLC NAND for Applications.

      Host PC Bridge

      Dedicated Cafe-to-host PC bridge hardware.
      Allows File System emulation by host PC.
      Provides interface for debugger and logging to host PC.

      -Neogaf-

    1. In the end, ‘copying’ others doesn’t really matter, it’s who has the best games. Did Nintendo copy Sony’s prototype motion controller back from 2004? (no, the Power Glove wasn’t a motion-based controller, it used an ultra-sonic transmitter)

      Also, as much as I dig Nintendo, Sony kinda dominated the PS2/GC/Xbox era…

      1. hey i think i got it! wiiu will be on that next gen and battle with the current generation so nintendo can make cash and the next nintendo will rival agains ps4 and 720.i think sony isnt so bad than i thought…

        1. Were near year 8 in this generation on what was normally 5 years. Seems companies are either super milking one system or graphics boost is not much anymore. Wii U looks fantastic and is said to be much more powerful then PS3 but sure enough not that much of a leap, got to consider the customers wallets.

          But think PS4… its what 1-2 years before announcement. So thats 2-3 years before its even out at a price like $600-700. Now i’ll wait even longer maybe 1-2 more years for its price drop. It just might be 2015 before i consider ps4. And for what? a system with a tablet controller as well XD

          1. You know what im going to save your post and when the year came I’ll see these words just to see you had the true all this whole time.

      2. You do realise that Sega was the first to come up with the motion controller back in the Dream Cast days?

        Also the power glove just paved the way for Nintendo to explore the motion controller.

        1. The Power Glove had nothing to do with motion gaming. Like, at all. It was not motion based, despite what Nintendo may have advertised back then.

  1. Lol good one >.<
    And yeah it's best to be the last one to make a console. It's potentially risky if people buy the other's first and so don't want to buy their's as well, but that's not too big of a problem I guess. Releasing it last means they know what the competition has to offer and can make changes to try and make their console better.

    1. [quote]Makes a great point from a business point of view but I personally think Nintendo will remain on top and I hope this is the case![/quote]

      Let me start by saying that I have played nintendo consoles for over 23 years starting with the nintendo 8 Bit and game boy till todays versions of both consoles. My all time favorite games are mostly nintendo games but what do we get for nintendo beeing on top? I’m getting dissapointed time and time again ever since the super nintendo. Alright the n64 was ok but I got more games on my ps1. I got about 40 games for my gamecube so i suppose I cant really complain there altough windwaker aint as good as the other zelda games neather was mario sunshine. I suppose Ill call it a tie with my ps2.

      As for the wii I bought I played zelda and some other games didnt touch it till mario and metroid played those 2 games bought a ps3 played that till mario 2 than I quit again till the new zelda and thats about it. I did spend some time on the guitar hero series but I might aswell have bought that for my ps3 cause I would have had way more songs true downloads.

      To make things clear nintendo has and always will be my nr 1 love I mainly played playstation for final fantasy and a shit load of other rpg’, but i’m really at my end right now with nintendo. I was really excited with this new console it felt like they would finnally go back to there roots but instead we got nothing at all. Some shitty 2d games sure there fun but they aint worth the money. Some more dance jump sing games with families looking happy on there couch F*ck that!

      The best thing I saw was Zombie U but its just gonna be another Red steel most likely.

      My nephews who still remain true to nintendo keep telling me graphics dont mather but they do I cant play top level fifa or call of duty on my wii zelda skyward sword while beeing the best zelda ever felt like it was behind feel of controls and camera ect. Not to mention I really had to adjust to the graphics after playing my ps3 for 2 years.

      What I want is :

      Street Fighter
      F-Zero
      Star Fox
      A real Mario
      Metroid
      Donkey kong (havent seen one since the super nintendo there all crap n64 was ok)
      Castlevania
      Mega Man (not gonna happen I know)
      Filled with all the other top games besides ofc god of war, Halo and Gears of war.

      I know we will be getting most of these games on this console but why didnt we see it yet. It feels like the 3th party devs arent backing up this console. We didnt wanna see 2d mario and dance and party game crap we wanted to see more Batman, Assassin Creed, Castlevania, Metal Gear Solid, Tomb Raider. I can keep writhing here for ages but you get the point. It just feel like its gonna be another failure like the wii while I want to be playing the BEST new games. In order to do so we need a Top machine Ill happily spend the extra 200 euro’s if needed

      1. If by “a real Mario” game you don’t mean a 2D side scroller then you’re an idiot. You do realize that is how Mario games started, right? If anything, it’s the 3D Mario games like Mario 64, Sunshine, and Galaxy 1/2 that aren’t the “real” Mario games.

    1. Except, they achieved this business model goal in two consecutive generations against Nintendo. And when it came to software on their console this generation, arguably that one as well.

      So your point is completely moot with those facts in mind.

        1. He wasn’t stating an opinion. Sony did beat Nintendo in two consecutive generations (the PS1/N64/Dreamcast era and the PS2/GC/BOX era) Not sure how you could disagree with that. Nintendo hasn’t exactly blitzed them this gen either, they took a very focused ‘casual’ route backed up by a handful of more hardcore games, yet the PS3 still sold well (although not initially) despite it’s higher pricetag.

          1. Sony got Lucky during the PS1/N64/ SATURN era and PS2GC/XBOX/DREAM CAST era.

            Developers didn’t like how Nintendo stuck with cartridges since they where expensive and difficult to work with.

            Sega mess up with the Saturn launch and killed it early when it wasn’t making them money, also it was difficult to work with as well.

            XBOx was brand new at the and a US console as well.

            DreamCast had the sigma of the Saturn failure over it plus the fact they lost EA, who refuse to publish a game on the system.

            GameCube again Nintendo went with a MiniDVD which held less data compare to the DVD.

            1. Thank You! Bad business decisions was the downfall for Nintendo and Sony’s dominance those past generations.

              For Sony to make another expensive machine while they are struggling is not really smart at this time.

              1. Except Sony is not remotely struggling in their gaming division. Why do wannabe stock analysts like you continue to post this shit is beyond me, though.

                They still have more money in the PlayStation brand that Nintendo does, btw.

            2. Sony got lucky? Don’t bullshit yourself fanboy. They were plain and simply better. While Nintendo chose to hurt itself in response.

              1. I just wanted to tell you that in the past days (or even weeks, I’m not sure) I’ve checked news and the comments on this site you were the only person who seriously was stating the truth. And I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone here before who has been right so much. And for that reason, I just wanted to thank you. Not for this post only, but everything you’ve said here, I simply thought this was the right time to say thank you.
                Not trying to be a weirdo, it’s just what I think.

  2. i think they want to destroy Nintendo’s reputation.anyway i dont know if its good idea,my crystal ball remains unclear with blue screans!

    1. Not about being the best, but about not rushing products to market or showing them before they’re ready. I really hope that’s what Nintendo is doing right now.

  3. mmlol family guy online

    I alwaysbuy nintendo/sony console anyways….xbox can smd not going to pay for internet gay microsoft

            1. I fucking HATE Xbox, dont get me wrong I’ve bought at least 4 in the past..Fucking all got RROD..I’m looking forward toward Sony’s new PS as for Microsoft is they even come out with a new Xbox they can take it and shove it their corporate asses…

    1. I actually don’t mind Microsoft products – including the infamous “Windows” operating system (though I must admit, I do dabble with Ubuntu) – and the original Xbox was fantastic… The Xbox 360 however, is pathetic.

      Depending on who you ask (Microsoft included), the failure rates are anywhere between 40% and 60% (as I understand it, Sony’s failure rate is around 10%, and Nintendo’s is somewhere around 3-5%) – far too high for a AU$300+ console if you ask me, their first-party games are average and their menu is ridiculous.

      As long as they make consoles, Sony will always be my first choice, but in saying that, Nintendo make a damn fine console and whilst they’ve made some poor choices over the last few years (the Nintendo Wii U included), I have absolute confidence they’ll pull through…

      Nintendo’s biggest problem – and this applies to all of “The Big Three” to varying degrees – is the failure to understand the significant changes the video game industry is going through at the moment.

      Many of these “changes” are in my opinion ridiculous (touch-screen gaming is the most retarded thing in the history of gaming!), but these are what drive the industry and the sooner Nintendo (and the others!) realize this, the sooner they’ll get back on track again…

    1. ‘Crappy PS2’?

      Are you utterly retarded? The GameCube was great and all, but the PS2 utterly dominated the market and had a massive amount of great games going for it, probably more than any console I’ve played thus far. To call yourself a gamer and restrict yourself to playing only one company’s consoles is pathetic and childish.

      1. I don’t think you understood what he said. More like you just took one thing he said out of context and applied your own.

    2. You’re forgetting the Dreamcast. Besides, for a long time the PS2 was the top selling console over the current gen. Crappy or not, it still did ridiculously well.

    1. In what regard? Because they have the largest amount of software and exclusives this generation over Nintendo, so….

      1. The number of software and exclusives don’t make your console the best. The quality of those softwares do.

          1. Willing to take a loss for a gamer’s experience is far more noble than ripping them off with the same shitty philosophy as the Wii, that’s why Nintendo shares are plummeting right now. Don’t believe me? Google it for yourself, LOL.

            People won’t be fooled twice. I look forward for Nintendo getting their asses handed to them like they should have this generation. Casuals are becoming less likely to drop money on what they think is yet another Wii accessory.

        1. Yet the Wii has unanimously the worst quality software on it according to the average metacritic reviews for them vs the other two systems.

          You have to be idiotic to think it’s remotely better than the PS3 on the software front, because I’mma tell you right now, it isn’t. The Wii does not touch the HD console’s libraries. So your excuse got crushed as soon you brought up “quality of software”. :P

      2. In regards to the internet? Xbox360 and Wii never had people hack into their internet and steal the credit card info of ~70 million users and have to be shut down for a few months because of all of it.

        1. I remember the hacker group saying they could do it just as easily to Micrsoft. Of course they can’t do it with the Wii, Nintendo were lazy as far as developing any digital distribution or services went.

        2. First off, PSN wasn’t even down for a full month, so it proves you don’t know shit.

          Also, XBL did get hacked before, and continues to have people have credit card info stolen.

          Also, there is absolutely no evidence credit card data being stolen during that. Research your shit, then post again. Fandork.

          And Wii doesn’t even have online so who the fuck cares LMAO.

        3. You really don’t know much about the Internet and hacking (or “cracking”, to use the correct terminology…), do you?

          The PlayStation Network (PSN) may have been the most publicized hacking, but it is by no means the worst… Dozens of other companies – some from financial or security backgrounds and many with far more customers than the PSN – have been hacked, in some cases with far more damage.

          Heck, even the CIA has been hacked a couple of times over the last two years or so!

          Just because Microsoft and Nintendo have not been hacked, does not mean their networks are “secure” or “more secure”… More than anything, it just means they’ve been lucky not to antagonize the wrong people.

    1. You can’t count Sega out like that, they used to be a much bigger competitor, the PS2 came after the Dreamcast and the PS1 certainly was not first. The PS2 launched for $300, the Gamecube launched for $200.

      1. Fair enough about Sega, but what was before ps1?, the sega saturn or something like that?. And PS2 for 300 dollars even tough it was inferior graphically?, well, at least I learned something today, thank you.

  4. [quote]Makes a great point from a business point of view but I personally think Nintendo will remain on top and I hope this is the case![/quote]

    Let me start by saying that I have played nintendo consoles for over 23 years starting with the nintendo 8 Bit and game boy till todays versions of both consoles. My all time favorite games are mostly nintendo games but what do we get for nintendo beeing on top? I’m getting dissapointed time and time again ever since the super nintendo. Alright the n64 was ok but I got more games on my ps1. I got about 40 games for my gamecube so i suppose I cant really complain there altough windwaker aint as good as the other zelda games neather was mario sunshine. I suppose Ill call it a tie with my ps2.

    As for the wii I bought I played zelda and some other games didnt touch it till mario and metroid played those 2 games bought a ps3 played that till mario 2 than I quit again till the new zelda and thats about it. I did spend some time on the guitar hero series but I might aswell have bought that for my ps3 cause I would have had way more songs true downloads.

    To make things clear nintendo has and always will be my nr 1 love I mainly played playstation for final fantasy and a shit load of other rpg’, but i’m really at my end right now with nintendo. I was really excited with this new console it felt like they would finnally go back to there roots but instead we got nothing at all. Some shitty 2d games sure there fun but they aint worth the money. Some more dance jump sing games with families looking happy on there couch F*ck that!

    The best thing I saw was Zombie U but its just gonna be another Red steel most likely.

    My nephews who still remain true to nintendo keep telling me graphics dont mather but they do I cant play top level fifa or call of duty on my wii zelda skyward sword while beeing the best zelda ever felt like it was behind feel of controls and camera ect. Not to mention I really had to adjust to the graphics after playing my ps3 for 2 years.

    What I want is :

    Street Fighter
    F-Zero
    Star Fox
    A real Mario
    Metroid
    Donkey kong (havent seen one since the super nintendo there all crap n64 was ok)
    Castlevania
    Mega Man (not gonna happen I know)
    Filled with all the other top games besides ofc god of war, Halo and Gears of war.

    I know we will be getting most of these games on this console but why didnt we see it yet. It feels like the 3th party devs arent backing up this console. We didnt wanna see 2d mario and dance and party game crap we wanted to see more Batman, Assassin Creed, Castlevania, Metal Gear Solid, Tomb Raider. I can keep writhing here for ages but you get the point. It just feel like its gonna be another failure like the wii while I want to be playing the BEST new games. In order to do so we need a Top machine Ill happily spend the extra 200 euro’s if needed

    1. Donkey Kong Country Returns for the Wii was great, dude. Second-best platformer this gen next to Rayman Origins. Other than that, I sorta agree with your post though.

  5. It’s called PR spin. Sony isn’t special, they, like every company, is out there to generate money.

    1. And neither is nintendo special, who’s shares have dropped 2.6% after their E3 conference. On the other hand, Sony’s shares RAISED by that very amount…oh the irony.

  6. I believe this should be read as “We plan to bring out a powerhouse console that will blow the others away and cost more”

    That is the ultra-negative view mind you. They did that with the ps3 and it is -just- now picking up speed. Sony needs to think this plan through. People online, screaming for GRAPHIXZ and MOAR POWAH, represent a very small share of the market.

    If they continue to make ultra expensive gaming products they should consider moving completely to a PC environment. As it stands now, they might end up bringing a console out that is -too- powerful compared to the other devices. Really, more power is good: putting more power in for no real reason and then charging an exorbitant cost for it, is plain idiocy.

    1. You’re pretty clueless.

      Power will always matter in the longevity of a console, there’s a reason why the Wii had an early death, because it couldn’t do anything impressive on the software front in it’s later years against the dominating HD consoles.

      I’ll be saving my money for a true next-gen console. Wii U isn’t next-gen.

      1. True. Even the most long awaited Wii game (Skyward Sword) was technically pretty shoddy. Sub-Xbox launch title graphics, haphazard innacurate controls, shallow story (deep by Zelda standards, practically non-existent by the standards of other action-rpgs (Heck, Alundra on the PS1 had a better story than any Zelda game to date)), not exactly the awe inspiring triumph is was hailed as up until release.

      2. Generally it is not my rule to feed trolls, and yes, you are a troll. You bring no positive points to life and instead use your opinion as fact. No one knows if HD directly effected the Wii’s life cycle, especially when looking at the success of Indy developers. (As a sub note, the Wii has the capability to do many things the 360 and ps3 can, it is simply a case of Nintendo using their own specific system for graphics. It is why games such as Super Mario Galaxy look so beautiful in comparison to most non-first party games, I would not be alone in saying SMG looks a lot better than some of the 360/PS3 games out there.)

        If power is so important, how is it minecraft, cave story, or limbo sell so impossibly well? Either way, I won’t be wasting the time to reply to you again. More so I hope that you instead start to bring positive points to a discussion, with facts instead of opinion. Also, please note, apart from calling you a troll I have not insulted you directly, once.

        Good day sir.

        1. Because they cater to casuals and casuals are a large portion of non-core gamers who made Angry birds the best selling app in the world.

          Again, graphics will always matter. Wii neither had graphics nor gameplay across the majority of it’s games. That’s why it failed for the people who mattered, core gamers.

          Also, SMG doesn’t look that great, it’s actually pretty terrible on my HDTV, the jaggies are ridiculous.

      3. The Wii didn’t have an early death. It had a normal time frame. And soon the PS4 and XBox 720 (or whatever) will soon follow. This is the way it always is. Not defending Nintendo’s E3 conference. I wanted to see more.

        1. For a 7th gen console, it did. Both other consoles are still strong as ever and frankly, don’t even need successors right away.

      4. Soon we’ll hit a graphics barrier and it won’t matter anymore. Because your eyes will limit how much detail you could see anyway. Next-gen consoles don’t need cinema quality (hundred million dollars for production) for games to be good. Its always about gameplay for the real gamers, the ones who aren’t trying to be cool by playing only shooters and similar games. And I think Wii U accomplishes that with a new way to experience games. Besides Wii U is still a powerful machine.

        1. I tend to agree, though not completely on the point of graphic fidelity. I believe we will reach that within this coming generation or the next (for home consoles). The reason for this is development costs. A studio can not afford to spend, as you said: hundreds of millions of dollars, on something that may only return roughly one fifth of that value.

          Instead there will be more focus on physics, game play and the story, instead of the graphical capability. As a sub note, this is why people -still- play half life. It looked amazing back then, still great today, but more so because of the amazing story, physics, game play and unique mechanics.

        2. There is no such thing as a graphics barrier. Graphics will continue advance forward even beyond the scope of “realistic”. With 8K resolutions popping up and GPU advancements done even faster than ever, your attempt at damage control will be proven utterly wrong.

            1. Are you implying we’re at real-life level non-cutscene busy gameplay-in-motion levels of graphics already? Because we’re not even close, you don’t know what you’re talking about if you think otherwise.

  7. sony should make something diffrent not another playstation sequel
    they should start with a new console and different name
    for example
    Zionix it could also be called ZNX
    hahaha

    1. Why would they change a brand name that is well known world wide and change it to something new that nobody knows. Imagin the costs it would take to promote a new name!!!

    1. Considering how expensive everything is these days, I’d rather buy a console that’s taken other ideas and perfected them, to be honest. I understand that there are a lot of younger users on here who just get their parents to buy their stuff for them though.

  8. i use to like sony when they use to make their own unique games like GTA and shit like that but now days they seem to copy nintendo’s games more often
    and there making themselves look bad and dum

  9. Best selling home console two gens ago was the lesser powered ps1… Best selling home console of last gen lesser powered ps2… Worst selling home console this gen the over powered ps3… This makes perfect sense

      1. Because they are not home consoles… I only mentioned home consoles because it’s more straight forward… Enough excuses… Im just lazy

    1. You are implying this has to do with every console. When in reality the best is the first to saturate the market due to casuals and low pricing.

      And btw, PS3 isn’t actually that “overpowered” compared to the 360. It’s only better in processor, the 360 is the console with better graphics output.

      Your foot is now in your mouth already. :P

  10. Square Enix just doesn’t want to work full hardcore with Nintendo again, that’s why they keep clamoring Sony to bring out a better console with better graphics. Cuz that’s all what SE cares about these days: better graphics but crappy gameplay. In all the time they spent making that Real Time Battle bullshit in FF12 and 13, Mass Effect had already come out with its instantaneous squad command menu. Even before people started to realize how much SE sucks now, they were already sucking in 2007.

    Playstation – the brand with 10+ hr films disguised as games.

    1. Agreed. Square games used to be all about story. Final Fantasy III on the SNES (or FFVI as it’s now referred to as) was their best game in my opinion. Yeah, it had amazing graphics for it’s time, but the story and gameplay trump that, easily.

      They reached a perfect mix of open world gameplay elements, perfect battle system, and charming characters mixed with great presentation when they made FFVII. They perfected that with FFIX. After FFIX, it all started to go downhill.

      FFX was good, but it started them on the path of linearity that now plagues the franchise. It’s nothing but “move forward, kill enemy, watch cutscene, rinse & repeat”

      What happened to world maps? Airships that you fly yourself freely? Towns? Having to roam a map freely, go to different places, try to gather new info and FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF?

      Now they basically make a interactive movie in rails. Way to destroy your flagship series, Square.

      *Goes back to playing FFIII on SNES emulator*

    1. The price was reduced almost immediately, mind you. There was a big outrage how all 3 consoles were overpriced (the wii, despite being the cheapest of the Big 3, was also massively overpriced at first too, moreso than people expected for a launch console even) initially, no one seems to remember that for some reason.

  11. Sony On PS4: “Never Been First. We’ve Never Been Cheapest. It’s About Being The Best” and of course, The Third again !

  12. The best is not the one with the console with the highest specs, the best is the on with the gamer heart ;)

  13. Microsoft and Sony could only offer one thing to gamers and that’s better graphics that’s it.
    Nintendo makes it! other companies take it! Microsoft does not make anything original Sony does not make anything original all they do is steal ideas and concepts .Nintendo are the innovators and creators it will be a sad day if Nintendo ever left the gaming world that’s when gaming will die. everything Microsoft and Sony has and become is cause of Nintendo so pay homage fagboys. one more thing you say you wont buy a wii-u cause it has nothing to offer and you dont want to spend money well how many of u fagboys brought more than 1 or 2 xbox 360 or ps3 cause they would burn out and now sony want to make systems more expensive you fagboys love throwing your money away. the only reason microsoft and sony are still alive is cause of third party games

  14. “We’ve never been first.”

    *looks at dates that the PSX and PS2 came out. Finds that both consoles came out atleast a year before competitors.*

    What?

  15. Funny. Since Wii sold the best and came out almost last, and 360 came out first and is obviously the most played continuously, even if Wii sold more actual consoles.

    It’s just amazing how delusional they are. You’d think they’d learn after PS3’s absolutely horrible launch and very minor success when compared to Wii and 360 today.

  16. they should go ahead and make the ps4 a monster and then price that machine at 1000 so that it will take years and a few price cuts to start making profit again hahaha. a mentality like that can cost you, sony.

  17. Im a bit frustrated about the new engine Square Enix showed. It will be used by PS4 and Nextbox according to the presentation and looked stunning, though only cgi was shown.

    Wii-U releasing in the near future, no engine for the wii-u but same for Sony en Microsoft? We wont see third party support any more…Or can they “easily” downgrade?…or upgrade (6)…hehe

    1. 3rd Party Support will dwindle once the next-gen PS3 and XBOX hits. Not trolling, honestly just think about it. Both Sony and Microsoft already have their digital services skeleton in place (PSN and Xbox Live), they both have a fair number of exclusive franchises associated either with their own console specifically or between the two of them, they’ve defined who they are, whereas Nintendo is dealing with the whole “we’re not for casuals only” image crisis. Assuming they don’t do anything outrageously stupid, they’ll enter into the next-gen fairly easily I think.

      I’ve got a bad feeling Nintendo and the WiiU are in for a very tough ride over the next 5-10 years.

  18. The comment implies that Nintendo rushed its new platform??? Ummm did anyone else consider the thought that maybe Nintendo just started developing their console first? Maybe they didn’t “rush” it like many people impose. I think Nintendo just finished a year earlier than Xbox! Ever go to school and hand in a project early…same thing!

  19. I am sorry but in all seriousness, do Sony think people have money to throw at them? I already think the PS3 is much to pricey, I would rather have my wii and 3ds any day! I will be buying the Wii U as well as keeping my Wii… I think the predicted price is fair and it seems to be a very unique and interesting idea. Can’t wait.

  20. Keep in mind the difference between the Wii and the PS3. You’re comparing a fairly simple machine to one that’s more complex. Sure the Wii had motion controls, but the PS3 was multi-media, HD graphics, and had less shovelware.

    The Wii was popular because of the motion control gimmick, which wasn’t present. I can’t tell you how many people I know who bought it just to play Wii Bowling, and now don’t play it at all. So yes, it may have sold a lot, but a lot of those sales were simply impulse buys because of the motion controls, it was new and exciting.

    The PS4 will probably be about the $350-400 at launch. The Wii U I expect will be cheaper than that. The PS4 will still sell well if there’s a reason to buy it, regardless of price. Nintendo didn’t give people a reason to buy the 3DS at the start, besides their gimmick of 3D, which didn’t appeal to most people. As long as song has a good launch lineup, it’ll sell well.

    Honestly, by the sounds of it, Nintendo won’t have any first-party titles at launch of the Wii U and will fail yet again. I do hope this is not the case, as I’d love to get the Wii U on launch day, and if there’s nothing to play, well… I’ll be a bit disappointed.

  21. The way I see it is Sony is waiting for Nintendo and Microsoft to release their new console’s specs and then they’re gonna unveil their new console which has the same specs as the others slightly improved.

    1. Actually like Microsoft, Sony have publicly stated that their current-generation console still has a lot of life in it (which it does!) and therefore, this is a key reason as to why Sony Computer Entertainment are not planning to rush the “PlayStation 4” out…

      The Nintendo Wii on the other hand, was out-dated the second the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 were released, which is why it makes sense for Nintendo to release a new console.

      Also bear in mind that all of “The Big Three” know that the future of dedicated consoles is bleak, and there is no logical point in rushing a console out unless you have something truly new, innovative and/or unique to bring to the table…

      The Nintendo Wii U is merely Nintendo’s attempt to catch-up to the current-generation consoles, whilst also trying to tackle the likes of “touch-gaming” and although I don’t think much of the Nintendo Wii U, I sincerely believe it could have been so much more if Nintendo had taken a little longer with the development process.

      Sony and Microsoft realize that the industry as a whole – including countless so-called “experts” – shares similar views to myself and therefore, the two companies are taking a “cautious” approach to their next-generation consoles, and spending far longer in development.

      Put bluntly, ALL of “The Big Three” know that if they don’t nail it with their next-generation console, there’s a very real possibility that they may be forced to leave the industry or in the case of Nintendo – whom deals exclusively with gaming – loose big money and it makes perfect sense for both Sony and Microsoft to spend as long as possible on development before committing to anything new, particularly when their current-generation consoles are already generating big numbers…

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