The Adventures Of Dash Could Be Coming To Wii U

Amen Skadoofus, and you Mr. elyk921 are somewhat misinformed when it comes to how Nintendo started loosing 3rd party support sir. Once upon a time there was a console named Nintendo 64 being planned by Ninty, an electronic giant came up to Nintendo an offered a dvd drive for the new console, Nintendo being so freaking stubborn and idiotic refused and instead went with the obsolete and expensive cartridge format.

Out of that stupid decision the Playstation was born, and the only reason that the 64 survived was mainly because of Mario 64, Starfox, and everything Rare made before being raped by Microcrap to extinction. Playstation went on to dominate the world, and we all thought Nintendo had learned their lesson, but hell no, they had a chance to rectify right away with their next console, third parties were anxious to jump back in the boat and players were eager to go back as well. But oh hold on to your panties, what does Nintendo do, they come out with this bullshit of a little cube with a handle in the back, oh how cute. The power was there, nobody complained about that, but the format they decided to go with, was a slap to the face again for third parties, and the players suffered as well, the stupid little mini discs had limited storage capacity and companies were forced to cram shit into that crap and then spend resources on making another one if the game needed more space. By this time another tech giant jumped in with the Xbox, although we all know the hardware has always sucked balls with Micropenis, nobody makes hardware like Nintendo.

Anyways, third parties had abandoned Nintendo, older fans had jumped to other boats, only the hardcore Ninty fans were loyal up to that point, and here comes a new console, few third parties were willing to give it another shot, few ex-fans were cautiously hoping for the hardcore console to show up, and oh gaming jesus here comes this white turd with the power of a gamecube 1.5, a controller that women can use as a dildo and men can throw at their tv…or use as a dildo as well, u know, some guys are kinky like that and shit…moving on, oh and for some odd retarded reason they go for the stupidest name ever, the Wii, penis jokes! They even went as far as saying, and I quote “Gamers don’t care about graphics, they only care about the gaming experience”, what a load of crap! While true to some extent, gameplay is important, you cannot ignore the fact that, creativity, graphical power, embracing new technologies along with gameplay go hand in hand, they are all important.

As you can imagine my friends, third parties lost hope, gave the middle finger to Ninty, older players left for good, and yes I’m aware the Wii went on to beat the other consoles in sales for many years, but it was only because of that dildo that was so attractive to women, grandmas, grandpas, little kids, etc…But the core gamers, the hardcore (not Nintendo loyal fans hardcore) were ignored.

And that is a bit of history on how Nintendo lost gamers and third parties. It seems like with the Wii U, another stupid name as far as I’m concerned, may fair better since the graphical gap may not be as big as last generation, and the gamepad is, well, interesting. Third parties are still hesitant and with good reason, nobody blames them for not wanting to join the Wii U bandwagon after all these years of ignorance and face slaps. Nintendo needs to grow up to some extent, but that wont happen I believe until Miyamoto retires I’m afraid, don’t get me wrong, I love Miyamoto, I grew up with his games, but that’s the thing, I grew up, and many others did as well.

I agree, most adult women are nintendo gamers. Nintendo have the female crowd on lock down. The children market on lock down. Its the adult male market that isn’t being covered right now but who really cares? Nintendo is good because they have carved their own market (women & kids).
Besides this game (adventures of dash) looks amazing to me. Thank God its Wii U bound. The more games the better. We need all the 3rd party support that we can get.

They are NOT the “king”. They are great at making their own games, I’ll give you that. They’re also great at garnering the attention of untapped markets (i.e. the original Wii “casual” market), but that’s all they’re “great” at these days.

Some would say that’s enough, and it may be. But it’s only enough to keep making money, which is good for them but not good for gamers who want more than casual games and first-party Nintendo games.

Nintendo hasn’t been an overall “king” since the SNES days. Back then, SNES had something (and everything) for everyone. It was powerful, had great 3rd party support, and even had a lot of “mature” games after a bit of a stubborn stint where Nintendo refused blood and gore and “mature themes” in the games.

The Wii U has a few select “mature” games, but it has far, FAR fewer than the other consoles, and the ones it does have are either multi-plats, or exclusives that are average at best, quality-wise. ZombiU is a great idea for a game, but suffers from poor execution. It is really a sub-par game at best, and only entertaining (for me, and for the vast majority of people it seems, judging by the feedback and ratings) for an hour or so before it gets boring and frustrating, and not because of the difficulty either.

“Don’t expect a radical change anytime soon” <– Therein lies the problem. The games industry is ALWAYS changing, and Nintendo doesn't change with it. They simply "do their own thing" and don't even think to consider what the market is doing as a whole, which is unfortunate because they COULD "do their own thing" AND still change with the times as well. But they are way too stubborn and set in their ways to do so.

A good example of how that doesn't work is the PS3 & it's "Cell" processor; Sony got on their high-horse and thought, "forget doing what is best/beneficial for developers, we'll give them our OWN thing and they'll just have to adapt to it". The result? A console that was not only overpriced, but also extremely un-friendly to develop for and to port games to from other platforms. It hurt Sony in the long-run, and it took them a long time to level out (they only just did a few years ago or so).

I think the main problem with Nintendo is that as Western gaming culture grows and becomes a huge force in the gaming industry, Nintendo not only sticks to their own thing, but they continue to do "the Japanese thing" as well, which only sometimes also works well in the US & UK, for example. Nintendo has been doing that since the NES, which was fine back then because that's where games lived and died and we were just happy to be getting whatever we could. These days, there's much more going on outside of the Japanese market, and not everyone in the rest of the world has the same habits, tastes, and culture as Japanese gamers. I think they expect the rest of the world to just follow suit with whatever Japanese gamers are into, like we did back in the 80's and 90's. But that's not the case anymore, and they really need to broaden their horizons if they really want MASS APPEAL.

But as I said before, Nintendo can and likely will survive by continuing to do their own thing and stick with their "the world will follow suit" mentality. However, surviving is not the same as dominating, or leading. They can do well, make profits, and continue to make games the way they're going at it, but they'll slowly but surely continue to take a back-seat to other companies like Sony that are embracing ideas and cultures from all different areas and walks of life, and not just depening on the Japanese gamer culture to lead the way and sort of "convert" everyone to what they're doing.

It's a sad thing really, because I think Nintendo definitely has the creativity and resources to crush everyone else easily. They're just not really going that path anymore and are more concerned with doing their own thing without any influence at all from other areas that are already huge and successful. If they'd incorporate that, and consider that, they'd be much more ahead of the curve and it would be a closer race.

Also, I'm not a Sony or MS fanboy; I have multiple consoles (all except the Wii U at this point), but don't kid yourself into thinking the graphics & scale of games is going to be almost identical, or that the "difference" is going to be "almost non-existent". The demo of the next Killzone alone, which is only in pre-alpha stage, looks far, far superior to anything out or announced for the Wii U at this point. It may not look it to the lamen's eyes, but things like lighting, particle effects, tessellation, shadows, textures, draw distances, frame rate, resolution, etc. are all much more advanced that what the Wii U is currently capable of or doing. While some of those things are purely cosmetic, they DO help with many people's perception of the game and thus, enjoyment. And the other elements that AREN'T purely cosmetic are things that affect gameplay; the number of enemies on screen, the interactivity of the environments, the ability to keep things (weapons on the ground, bodies, etc.) on screen in higher numbers and for longer periods of time, the dynamic nature of environments in terms of destructible structures and dynamically changing lighting and weather, the number of enemies on screen, the AI, the physics, the ability to load more objects and bigger environments at one time and thus reduce loading points and times, etc. I could go on for hours, but these are all things that aren't plainly obvious by just looking at a screenshot, which even those are incredibly more impressive than ANY console currently out is doing. And again: it's pre-alpha stage, months, possibly a year or more away from being completed.

It will be increasingly evident that the leap in graphcis and game scale from Wii U to PS4/XBOX 720 will be significan. Now, it may not be as plainly & visually obvious as say the original Wii VS PS3 in some ways, but it will be fairly close, and in many other ways, it will be very obvious.

That's not to say Wii U is "doomed" or that it won't be capable of making good games; hell, look at all the great games for XBOX 360 and PS3! Tons of them. The catch is that the Wii U is basically an XBOX 360 with a bit of extra horsepower to run the second screen, and while you can make great games with the power of the XBOX 360, the problem lies with developers having already MADE almost a decade-worth of games with that level of power & flexibility, and are now at the point where they have many ideas for games that just aren't possible with the restrictions of horsepower and tools of hardware at that particular level. So what you'll see is many companies skipping over the Wii U because they've already made the games they want to make with that level of power, and need more to create the new ideas they have that they've been holding off on, and therefore moving to the PS4/XBOX 720 to do so.

The only attraction they have for the Wii U is the second screen, and if they don't have any ideas for games that can properly utilize that screen in a way that makes sense and IMPROVES the game, and doesn't require more power, then they just won't make any games for it. It's unfortunate, but that is the reality of the situation.

Wii U's only hope is that Nintendo provides some killer AAA first-party games that spark the creative juices in third party developers and give them ideas for games that don't necessarily need "the next level" of horsepower. But that is a huge uphill battle that will really take a lot of time, and a LOT of very persuasive convincing.