Android powered games console OUYA will come equipped with a number of Nintendo gaming emulators. The emulators include EMUya, a NES emulator, SuperGNES and the Mupen64Plus which are Nintendo 64 emulators. The console will also come with a couple of SNES emulators. The NES emulato has been submitted to OUYA for review and has been confirmed for launch. OUYA forum admin and owner Ed Krassenstein has also confirmed that the Mupen64Plus project will also be available at launch. These will be available via the official store.
They’re still all illegal
They should really be ashamed of allowing you to get the emulators from the OFFICIAL STORE. -_-
Yeah, technically emulators themselves aren’t illegal but running games on them is. Apparently it’s not illegal if you dump the rom yourself but it’s pretty obvious nobody that uses it is going to do that
Exactly! Where to do rip a N64 game? I don’t know! Making a console looking thing and all they are doing is stealing games to make people buy it but I AINT! People could easily emulate on a PC and get PS2 and everything else with it! ILLEGAL!
Actually the code that makes up the frame work is more than likely illegal. All the parts in those systems are custom along with some of the programming to make the games run in the first place, that is why emulators are usually legal trouble.
its not illegal, to backwards engineer parts as long as you dont sell the emulator
Depends on how much of the original code is still there during the reengineering and how much of the code was copyrighted exclusive to Nintendo. So it could very well be illegal. I mean what do you think the who ongoing Google, Apple, Samsun, HTC mess is about mobile OSes. It has to do with patented code that has been reengineered.
And that is just what Ouya is doing selling it in their offical store. IF, it was some crack they did like was done with the PSP, it would be completely impossible to go after them except by asking the host to shut down the site.
The emulators are NOT illegal. Scraping the Internet for ROMs to play in the emulators: that’s illegal.
There is a difference. Learn it, know it, love it.
Yeah they aren’t illegal but they have absolutely no use other than illegal activities so they pretty much are
You can use them to play freely distributed homebrew games. In fact, new homebrew NES games are released every year and using an emulator is pretty much the ONLY way to play most of them.
That’s true, but how many people do you think would buy this just for that?
As someone said above, it’s still using the coding from the original systems which are still owned by Nintendo, it’s like technically giving away a free console (or selling it without Nintendo’s permission)
Can you not backup the games you own using an SD cart?
No
Yes you can backup your own games from your own physical copies.
ILLEGAL GO REPORT TO NINTENDO TO SUE THEIR ASSES AND THEIR OUYAS
They’ll just wait until it’s released. I mean people are saying it isn’t illegal, but then it’s in the same category sa the R4 card for DS. It wasn’t “illegal”, per see, but people used it for piracy. And Nintendo sued their asses.
Totally agree seriously why the fuck did Nintendo put their seal of quality on every single one of there game they write exclusive all over, ouya is a disgrace to gaming industry, if they want game why not make there own god damn exclusises oh wait they can’t cause there a shit company, this makes me so fucken mad, I hope that price of shit burns, it doesn’t even deserve to have games like that, people if you want past games their a thing called the virtual console, sorry for the swearing I’m just angry on they’d do that
no its not
Explain how then
emulators arent illegal. if you have ever purchased a cartridge you have the rights to play the rom just like you have the rights to copy a cd you own. The only thing thats illegal is playing roms you’ve never owned. Nintendo needs to go after rom distribution sites . and just like the record companies bitching at the wrong people instead of giving their customer what they want. If nintendo made these games cheap and available and added new features like online gameplay or leader boards people would purchase them but they don’t do that they wanna charge you 5 bucks for poorly emulatd games it’s their own fault for being lazy/greedy. Also if something is that old and nintendo doesnt provide a method of purchasing those games i think it becomes legal to play them. If they arent making money off of it in the first place they cant sue you for pirating it.
From Nintendo’s official site:
“People Making Nintendo Emulators and Nintendo ROMs are Helping Publishers by Making Old Games Available that are No Longer Being Sold by the Copyright Owner. This Does Not Hurt Anyone and Allows Gamers to Play Old Favorites. What’s the Problem?
The problem is that it’s illegal. Copyrights and trademarks of games are corporate assets. If these vintage titles are available far and wide, it undermines the value of this intellectual property and adversely affects the right owner. In addition, the assumption that the games involved are vintage or nostalgia games is incorrect. Nintendo is famous for bringing back to life its popular characters for its newer systems, for example, Mario and Donkey Kong have enjoyed their adventures on all Nintendo platforms, going from coin-op machines to our latest hardware platforms. As a copyright owner, and creator of such famous characters, only Nintendo has the right to benefit from such valuable assets.”
So no
ahh lawyer talk…. the most bs talk in the universe. they like to use word like illegal and corporate asset when they know full well its not fully illegal. just lawyers talking. if it was illegal do you think emulators would be on the front page of google play store? No only distributing roms are but even that is not illegal because they have no way to prove you dont own the original
If they say it’s illegal to copy their fucking games then it’s illegal you moron?
So whatever Nintendo’s lawyers say goes? Just like they said they didn’t steal that guys intellectual property for the 3DS right? Too bad they got sued 30 million dollars HAHAHA. And you called me a moron at least im not a nintendrone. End of converstation
If it’s their property and they say nobody can steal it then they can’t moron
If it’s somehow found out that Nintendo doesn’t own the rights to any Nes, snes or n64 games then the roms are legal, but that’s not going to happen
Oh I also forgot to mention that you shoudlnt feel guilty for stealing old games because the developers who actually made those games wont see any money from nintendo anyway. Only the fat cats will profit off the old games not the people that actually made them.
Why should I not feel gulity I don’t give a shit, it’s still illegal and I wont do it
They can’t add restritions that arn’t law, thats anti trust. ie you can’t tell someone what they can and cant do with something they bought unless its illegal. Nintendo doesn’t decide whats legal and whats not.
That’s not even what I said
If their games say you can’t make illegal copies of them, you can’t make illegal copies of them it’s as simple as that
That’s a pretty good point. If Nintendo thinks it’s fine to steal other people’s intellectual property (the 3DS tech) then why should anyone care if people steal their intellectual property?
They also stole some of the original super mario bros. music from an old avant jazz band that released a record in japan.
The 3DS tech wasn’t proved to be stolen; it’s just that one court which said they did.
I didn’t know that Music one though. Guess things were really different 30 years ago.
Lol he is actualy a real pennis.
It’s not illegal if Nintendo says it is. It’s illegal only if the LAW says it is. And the US supreme court has repeatedly ruled that it’s legal to make back up copies of software that you own. I think it’s illegal in the UK, and I think it’s legal in australia… so research your own area I guess.
No 1 is debating that what are we debating is the creation of a console that his main use is to earn money from other peoples work.
Emulation is not the main purpose of the Ouya console any more than emulation is the main purpose of your home computer.
It’s legal in the US, but not in Japan, the UK, Australia and most 1st world countries. Shows how behind the US is.
You’re an idiot. This thing will be sold with a lot of emulators to play pirated Nintendo games. They’re stealing Nintendo’s properties and cashing in over them. How come this isn’t bad? Emulators aren’t allowed on Apple store or Android market because Apple and Google aren’t dumb enough to be sued by Nintendo because of them. How come it’s legal then? Use your brain for fuck’s sake.
actually there are emulators on google play so i guess that makes you the idiot
You know what? Screw Copyright! It has always been the sort of thing that is part of capitalism and will always take advantage of those in the lower class, making them even poorer and making it more unfair. Companies want to use Copyright just so that they can get richer and richer. Allow me to explain that creativity never needs protection, creativity comes from the world wide web itself. I think it’s rather selfish not to let people do something similar to you, am I right? Every creativity is based off something, one way or another. Freedom of Expression never needs protection, because freedom of expression is being open to everyone, to help out each other and many other things that would help in the long run, the world wide web is an example of helping freedom of expression. Also allow me to explain that there is a difference between stealing and infringing. Stealing is physically taking something away from someone without them knowing, like their wallet for example. While Infringing is copying something that someone else has done, or in other words… duplicating! There is absolutely nothing wrong with infringing, we have managed to come up with more new ideas thanks to infringing stuff. It helps the economy to improve and grow. Companies that want to get richer and richer are the ones that often dislike people infringing their stuff and have lobbied the governments into bringing laws that prohibit people to do so, just so they can become more powerful and take control of the government. Do we honestly want to see a future where one powerful company is controlling the government? Take News Corporation for example, they have absolute control over most governments in the world, especially in the United States.
Also, guess what Nintendo? Emulation and ROM Hacking is my life! <3
There is no “if ” you purchased you still need to have the phisical copy not just the receipt.
“The only thing thats illegal is playing roms you’ve never owned.”
Right, like if everyone that downloads roms says “oh, I won’t download this game because I never owned it”…
I know what you mean but the FBI tracks ips from roms sites so what are you going to say when they knock at your door?
The F.B.I. needs to use their resources to catch actual criminals; not people that want to play their old favorite video games. All that are bitching about it being illegal and that want to contact Nintendo are most likely developers who want to rape you for your money, or little pussies that want to bitch about everything. You make me want to bash you in the skull until I see the white meat. If you are not making games for people to enjoy, and you are solely trying to make a profit off of it over and over again then you are an asshole. Fucking Capitalistic bastards!!!!!
Just so you are aware, Piracy has been some of the largest criminal rings in the last couple decades, therefor they were using their resources to do what was most needed. These kinds of things can destroy an economy. If you want to play your old favorite game, pull out your system hook it up and play it, they play it better then any emulator. If you own it, it shouldn’t be that much of an issue.
If these sort of actions are condoned by anybody, then the developers aren’t going to be making any money and won’t put out any more games that we all want to enjoy as you stated. Nothing is free, the development of games is no exception, this is why it is a bigger issue then what you seem to think it is. No matter what economy you come from money is essential to being prosperous, weather it’s capitalistic, free trade, communist or anything in between. Some just rely on it in different amounts for their basis of existence.
The only thing that destroys the economy is money.
Yep, when money gets involved in something, it really does cause corruption. As far as I know, the United States is second place in being a capitalist country, with Japan being in first place. Heck, Japan now has a law that can get people put in jail just for downloading copyrighted content, where as in other countries… it’s just a civil penalty.
Companies, especially Nintendo need to realize that there’s more to life than making themselves richer.
I’ve never liked capitalism or copyright, and I never will.
As much as I wish companies would realise that, in all honesty, any company who puts their customers before profit would be giving away everything for free, and we all know that wouldn’t work.
Gotta clarify here. It isn’t what ‘owned’ it’s ‘own, and have in possession’. Also, just because something is old and there are no means of getting it doesn’t mean it becomes free, these games are still copy written which means that it is illegal to play them without possession of the original content. Your last sentence is also incorrect. It is still distributing stolen property, it makes no difference if money exchanges hands or not. They certainly can sue you for piracy, here is the definition “The unauthorized use or reproduction of copyrighted or patented material”.
Did you know that when you copy the contents of a CD and give it to a friend it is illegal? Actually you aren’t even technically allow to copy the contents, this is why iTunes and others have encrypted their music to make it difficult to burn it to a CD. Or why some CD’s that you purchase today are encrypted so you aren’t supposed to be able to rip to contents to your computer. Also, if you do copy the contents of your CD you are supposed to destroy the original, or the new one, either way your are only supposed to have one.
So in summation, the use of the ROM with an emulator if you don’t own and have in possession of the original is indeed illegal, as is copying/distributing/selling the ROM.
Can I Download a Nintendo ROM from the Internet if I Already Own the Authentic Game?
There is a good deal of misinformation on the Internet regarding the backup/archival copy exception. It is not a “second copy” rule and is often mistakenly cited for the proposition that if you have one lawful copy of a copyrighted work, you are entitled to have a second copy of the copyrighted work even if that second copy is an infringing copy. The backup/archival copy exception is a very narrow limitation relating to a copy being made by the rightful owner of an authentic game to ensure he or she has one in the event of damage or destruction of the authentic. Therefore, whether you have an authentic game or not, or whether you have possession of a Nintendo ROM for a limited amount of time, i.e. 24 hours, it is illegal to download and play a Nintendo ROM from the Internet.
That’s from their website.
http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#download_rom
And do you realise how hard it is to recode engines that are so old? They’d have to spend unnecessary time and effort to do something that would be bugged out and not work efficiently anyway, as the original architecture was never meant for online play or other new features. What they do isn’t lazy. It’s their property, and they can do whatever the heck they want with it.
Well, an emulator isn’t actually illegal in its self… It’s the ROMs that are illegal, and using the emulator to run the ROMs that is illegal. But if these emulators are on here, then that will also mean that the PS1 emulator is likely to be on there as well. Without any means of running the discs or ROM’s legally they might find they have their hands quite full from Nintendo and Sony. It really is bunk.
Oh, they’re legal? Explain why they are pulled out of iOS App Store or Androir market, then.
Because Apple and Android Market don’t want to condone the illicit use of an emulator. It looks very bad on them, plus not all emulators are created equal. Some actually do have issues with copy write infringement (bios stuff) or built in emulator abilities that also infringe.
Bullshit
They got pulled down because both ROMs and Emulation are Illegal period
Apple and Android know very well they would be sued if they let that app on their marketplace.
The Same will happen to the Ouya. Don’t try to sugar coat the situation.
It’s basically getting all the functionalities of a console without buying it so yes it’s illegal
You would think so but apparently not. What’s interesting though is that the biggest selling point of Ouya is that it can run emulators for nintendo games. lmao!
Nintendo Should SUE
emulators are NOT illegal. emulating roms of games that you don’t own is. get it right.
Depends on the country you live in. Pretty much anywhere outside the US doesn’t condone emulating roms at all, no matter whether you own them or not.
It’s basically giving the person with the emulator all the features of a console that they don’t own, and the creators of the emulator had to get some of the coding from Nintendo’s systems so, yes they are illegal
having an emulator is perfectly legal. playing copyrighted works on it IS illegal. get your facts straight.
Did you read the reply at all
uh yes. did you read my response?
Yeah, and it didn’t even seem to be a reply to the right comment
ILLEGAL
u guys can all pay 5 bucks for 20 year old games that u already bought. as for me ill stick to emulators, tens of thousands of games for free
It’s still illegal lol
stop being jealous that I play games for free
I’m not being jealous though? I don’t even give a shit you’re still being a halfwit and breaking the law
FUCK YOU PUSSY
I like my games on my shelf, with their beaultiful boxes.
seriously, it’s perfectly legal to emulate. as long as you actually own the game, you can do with it has you please.
Can I Download a Nintendo ROM from the Internet if I Already Own the Authentic Game?
There is a good deal of misinformation on the Internet regarding the backup/archival copy exception. It is not a “second copy” rule and is often mistakenly cited for the proposition that if you have one lawful copy of a copyrighted work, you are entitled to have a second copy of the copyrighted work even if that second copy is an infringing copy. The backup/archival copy exception is a very narrow limitation relating to a copy being made by the rightful owner of an authentic game to ensure he or she has one in the event of damage or destruction of the authentic. Therefore, whether you have an authentic game or not, or whether you have possession of a Nintendo ROM for a limited amount of time, i.e. 24 hours, it is illegal to download and play a Nintendo ROM from the Internet.
http://www.nintendo.com/corp/legal.jsp#download_rom
technically you can download it, but then you technically know of a crime (them sharing that file) but thats gonna be hard to justify in court as being an acessory to the crime.
for the record, every single rom that i own i have ripped off of a physical disc that i still own. so what I am doing is NOT ILLEGAL. i do not condone downloading games for free off of the internet, but i still stand by the fact that it is perfectly legal to have an emulator on any device. as long as the files that you are emulating are in your possetion and you did not illegally download them, it’s fine.
Is this legal?
i think its not and if it is then it shouldnt be
it is , as long as you own the game
Isn’t that kind of… illegal?
Technically no but it should be
It’s actually not illegal, as long as you have bought the original games.
Nintendo’s site has a page saying that it actually is still.
Really? I remember reading a couple years back about it being fine. Although, Nintendo are very though against piracy so it would not surprise me if it has changed.
Yeah they’ve really toughened the rules with this stuff
I can’t really blame them though.
Yeah the emulator buisness cost them quite a lot of DS game sales especially with r4 cards and all those sort of things getting so popular and easy to obtain
Nobody cares about you; you’re a bitch!!!!
Those are banned in Japan.
well, with an r4, thats not an emulator. its just a flash card that you can store multiple games on. an emulator is a program that runs the roms, not one that stores them. for instance, project64 is an n64 emulator. you open the program and then select what rom you want to play. with the dolphin emulator, i litterally put my wii discs in my computer’s disc tray and play the games off of the disc.
I never said an r4 was an emulator?
“Yeah the emulator buisness cost them quite a lot of DS game sales especially with r4 cards ” and i was explaining how the r4 has NOTHING to do with emulating and just stores the games.
I was referring to emulators and roms which are all related, r4s come under this category too
you were specifically referring to emulators when talking about the r4, which is not an emulator. and any game is a rom btw
You can have a rom if you made that rom from your original copy yourself. Just like you can have legal mp3s you personally ripped from your own CD.
^This – It is legal to copy a ROM of a game you own, and then emulate that!
It is illegal to use someone elses ROM or to distribute yours!
“Can I Download a Nintendo ROM from the Internet if I Already Own the Authentic Game?
There is a good deal of misinformation on the Internet regarding the backup/archival copy exception. It is not a “second copy” rule and is often mistakenly cited for the proposition that if you have one lawful copy of a copyrighted work, you are entitled to have a second copy of the copyrighted work even if that second copy is an infringing copy. The backup/archival copy exception is a very narrow limitation relating to a copy being made by the rightful owner of an authentic game to ensure he or she has one in the event of damage or destruction of the authentic. Therefore, whether you have an authentic game or not, or whether you have possession of a Nintendo ROM for a limited amount of time, i.e. 24 hours, it is illegal to download and play a Nintendo ROM from the Internet.”
yup. Then either the original or the new copy must be destroyed before that time limit.
and have them in possession.
ILLEGAL.
GO REPORT TO NINTENDO
I hope Nintendo sues
will Nintendo allow this?
we might see some conflict close to laucnh imo…
How long until Nintendo releases the hounds?
They’ll have to release them on the creators of the emulators, not the creators of the Ouya, although they could still get in trouble for allowing them onto the system
Well, actually the suppliers of the ROM’s not the emulator creators unless they have breached a copy write law in making the emulator. There are a few that have been shut down for that.
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lets change this industry up!
As others have said, the legality isn’t exactly on their side on this one.
The emulators aren’t illegal themselves, but it’s obvious what they’ll be used for. ‘Could’ be used for homebrew/for games you own, but realistically, its for piracy. Same logic Nintendo used to get R4 cards banned.
I can’t see it being too long before Nintendo gets involved.
Yeah we all know how most people are going to use them, I doubt the creators of these emulators will win this one if Nintendo gets involved
Oh boy… I think someone is going to get sued
This could take a chunk out of Nintendo Virtual Console business. But on to better new, Pachter was wrong about the 3DS. I made a video.
Pachter is always wrong so you would be better ignoring the idiot, even God himself thinks that Pachter is a joke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlFkgreiUYs#t=03m10s
You people don’t see he’s actually a nice guy behind the cameras. He just talks trash on Pach Attack because it’s his job.
Best. video. ever! =D
Epic video! XD
awesome video francis
I love how Android/iOS/PC/PS/Microsoft owners go out of their way to play Nintendo games by emulators and still some of the people that do that are the same that constantly talk shit about Nintendo xD
Somehow I do not see this lasting long. If Apple can stop other companies making motherboards or computers compatible with Mac OS (without supplying the OS itself) and claim it condones piracy then this falls under the same ruling.
I have a bunch of GC ROMs I dumped myself and emulate but only on the games I owned which was quite a few.
There is no way Nintendo is going to let this slide, so it won’t be long before they send out the hounds.
The Ouya is the biggest piece of shit ever concieved. I DO NOT consider this a real entry into gaming hardware history , the Gozmondo , Ngage were at least legit platforms with legit titles like Tomb raider. The Ouya is a PoS scam . end of.
I’ve got conflicted feelings about this…
You understand that suing the developers of the Ouya for this would be like suing Microsoft for allowing Visualboy Advance to run on Windows, right? It’s the developers of the software you should be angry at. And frankly, you shouldn’t be angry at them at all either.
Why should we not be angry at them they’re being pirates?
No, because Microsoft does not endorse emulators. The Ouya devs are endorsing it by having it on their official store. Its like if Valve decided to allow an NES emulator on Steam. If that happens, Nintendo would sue. And I’m pretty sure they’re going to take some sort of action on this.
There is nothing inherently wrong with emulation. Emulation allows people to play games that aren’t commercially available from first parties anymore (e.g. Earthbound) as well as play homebrew games (http://www.nesworld.com/snes-homebrew.php). The problem is piracy, which you seem to attribute entirely to the people writing the emulators. Not even them; you blame the Ouya devs for having a free market for independent developers, which inevitably will arise in the creation of emulators.
If the emulators are hard coded to only be able to use the home brew stuff and be unable to emulate copy written material then it’s totally fine and legit. However if this is not the case then the official store is actually condoning the use the emulator in an illegitimate use. It’s like a lie of omission.
Pfft, well there goes the Ouya. Not a chance that’s gona last.
Honestly, who was legitimately excited for Ouya anyway?
It’s an android that plugs into your tv, thats it.
Anyone who wants it, has a PC, and has all the features of that Ouya.
I don’t think anyone was
Lol i could get a better phone or system for the price of the ouya.
But will it blend?
It’s really sad that these people are so afraid of being labeled a kid that they’d willingly do shit like this just to play Nintendo games.
Suck it up and buy a damned Nintendo console, people.
Woah, ^this, right here, well said.
From Nintendo site:
To report ROM sites, emulators, Game Copiers, Counterfeit manufacturing, or other illegal activities, please call us at 1-800-255-3700 or e-mail us at piracyscene@noa.nintendo.com
Thx, submitted
Yeah, tell them to give me a call when they have that N64 emulator running every single game flawlessly… And then I might buy one.
Isn’t that illegal?
The super hackable phone console can also run illegal Rom’s… wow… long life to piracy…
i smell a law suit for ouya’s future
Yeah well, tell them to give me a call when that N64 emulator can actually emulate every single game perfectly and I might consider buying it…
Until then, this does nothing that my original Wii and even my PS3 doesn’t do, so why should I buy this again?
Wow. So theres probably nothing Nintendo can do about this but they get sued for using 3d tech for 3ds
Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Not necessary, if they can prove that there will be illicit use of these emulators they can get them removed. Also, most emulators are made by small groups of people or even 1 or 2 people working on it, if the big N comes down and says stop or we will sue, I would stop. Would you? If it is open to be used for copy write infringement then they completely have a leg to stand on.
Even if Nintendo threatened me and said “Stop or we will sue”, I wouldn’t listen… I would continue to the death. ‘Cause Emulation and ROM Hacking is my life. <3
I say, let them have all emulators, roms, anything, let them dig dark side of the internetz to find it. But not as officially advertised, ready to use as “feature” of legal US-based gaming console. That is just too much I think.
High Command should destroy this illegal kingdom from ever setting a foothold!
We need to get all resources we can get by doing this…
So, um, what does Nintendo have to say about this?
Sounds like the Ouya’s going to do VC better than the Wii U. On day one I can have every game I own available to me. Also, this isn’t illegal. Emulators do not violate any laws UNLESS they include BIOS of the original system. And games are not inherently illegal, either. If you own a device to rip your own carts to your PC (and they exist for NES/SNES, N64 is on the way), then as long as you never distribute the ROMS you created from your game, then that’s legal. No different than backing up a CD on your computer and listening to its contents on multiple devices. OUYA just got a little more awesome.
Actually that is illegal if you aren’t destroying the original copy lol. That is why many CD’s are coming encrypted and iTunes sells encrypted music. You have only purchased one copy of each song so you are only entitled to one copy of each song.
You’ve got it a little bit wrong. You ARE allowed under US law to make a backup copy of any CD or record or cassette you own. This is because it’s possible for them to become scratched or otherwise damaged and stop working. It’s legal to make back up copies of your software for the same reason.
It probably doesn’t apply to music or software that you download, because there’s no physical copy that can become damaged.
Yes, it’s legal to make a copy, BUT one of the two copies must be destroyed within 24 hours.
That is not true at all. One of the copies doesn’t have to be destroyed. It wouldn’t be of any use as a back up then. The whole point of the law allowing you to make a back up copy is so that it’s available in case the original stops functioning, or to use so that the original can be kept safe and unused.
I don’t think you understand that when you buy a copy of a game, you only buy that copy. You don’t buy a back-up with it because if you did, then you would simply buy two copies.
You don’t BUY the back up, you make it yourself. The US supreme court has ruled repeatedly that it is legal to make back up copies of your music and your software. They don’t say you have to destroy one of them. But you can’t use both the original and the copy at the same time.
Not to mention… many people (and probably nearly every business) back up their hard drives regularly. It makes a back up copy of every single program & song & movie that you’ve got. If that’s illegal, well that’s ridiculous. The catastrophic loss that would befall anyone who’s hard drive dies makes making a back up an absolute necessity.
My apologies, I was thinking we were talking about downloading a copy from the Internet. I must have misread.
Suddenly that “I’ll sue you” song comes to mind.
Yes, I can see with my eyes. Hundreds of Nintendo fans that have rare original Nintendo cartridges (single one could cost more than half of ouya) and hardware cartridge rippers as well. They all go and buy cheapest plastic console with bad gamepad to play their magic childhood rare-but-originally-dumped games on mighty Android.
I play roms off of the wii homebrew channel hopefully it will play N64 games better than the wii N64 emulator
This OUYA thing planed on beating out ALL the other systems (with Android powering it, which makes it even more laughable) and the creators will be sued before it even hits the market. I hope Nintendo catches wind of this and the whole OUYA project bombs. I can’t play my cell phone games on the OUYA, cos then I couldn’t play them while I poop.
Now if you don’t mind, I’m gonna go play Angry Birds for about five minutes.
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Isn’t this calling for a lawsuit from Nintendo? Apparently emulators are legal (sort of), but ROMs themselves are illegal, and this is being sold with it. Companies could take this to court and fight it out since it promotes the pirating of games.
Someone about to be sue lol
If the main team is doing it then I can’t wait for the lawsuit.
OUYA looks like GameCube :) The only way i’ll buy one is if i turn retarded and/or get hit by a large rock.
We all know this is what the OUYA will be really used for.
I’m not going to argue the legality of putting the emulators on the system, however in the words of the famous captain James Hook, ” Bad Form! “
What the…? Isn’t that not legal??
Allow me to say this:
Of course, Emulators are not illegal, the roms can be, but most of those laws (Actually all) are really dumb..
Now of course, even if you own a rom, you could still be breaking the law, hell, even if you dump it maybe. But honestly I think people should be OK to download a rom as long if they at least own it (Even if it’s still illegal but should be legal). And there is reasons, I did it because I want to be able to learn codes, mod, etc. Especially if you are the one creating the rom by a dump. Even though a sticker may said not to but I will just ignore that because I have should have the right to do what I want when I have a copy. Also, most roms I would get are already owned.
So for these clearly, it’s a grey area, EVEN if you didn’t own it, because these games are kind of “old” or something and it wouldn’t ever stop people from buying it.
I actually want this to happen because Emulation is something really great AND the most freedom non-restricted way. And besides, due to a lot of evidence, this wouldn’t even hurt the company that much or ever, maybe.. Of course, this may lead to a lot of downloads, especially without owning the physical ones but who cares, this has happened already and Nintendo is just getting richer and richer with there recent focus. And hell, due to the freedom of Emulation, it might of made me want to buy more classic games, did you hear that? “Buy”.
People need to stop worrying about this piracy thing, and focus on the real issues. Man.
Also, superbowserkoopa is really pissing me off on here, suggesting more bullshit up tight crap that violates more rights. Sorry, I had to say that.
I’m not pissed at this at all!, It seem’s it would be great rather then having to plug in my snes nes or n64 to play the game’s! I’ve used emulators several times so I’m allright!
Other news sites are reporting this in a way that makes it seem as if these emulators will NOT be official releases on Ouya’s own site. However, the Ouya is made to be easy hackable… so users can load software beyond what is available on Ouya’s own site if they wish.
Ouya has NOTHING to do with the emulators, and isn’t providing them or the roms. People here are getting bent out of shape over nothing.
“””””””””””””HAS TO BE SAID”””””””””””
THE INDUSTRY HATES NINTENDO
THE HARDLYCORES HATE NINTENDO
EVERYONE HATES NINTENDO
YET THE FIRST THING THEY ALL DO WEN A CONSOLE OR FORMAT OF SOME KIND IS HACKED
PLAY NINTENDO ROMS ON IT YOU COULDNT MAKE UP MORE BULL SHIT IF YOU TRIED
HYPERCRITE SCUK THE LOT OF THEM
I smell a Lawsuit anytime
as the one above said, everyone hates nintendo, yet the first thing they try to do when modding a console is emulating it
I fail to see how handing out ROMs for old games to use on emulators is “illegal” while people making a profit off of selling used games that developers are still expecting a profit from is not. On one hand nobody is making any money, nor are the developers expecting to be getting any more profit from a game they made 5+ years back. On the other hand, there are people making a profit, and it’s not the designers who only just finished the game and have their fingers crossed that they will break even. I don’t condone the distribution of emulators and ROMs nor the sale of used games, but I think we have our thinking a little bit screwed up.
Trust me, Nintendo would very much like to make used game sales illegal as well. They’ve petitioned lawmakers to make used game sales illegal for years, unsuccessfully.
ANY game maker and distributor would love to make preowned sales illegal. They just won’t admit it, because of the furore it would cause. After all, second-hand sales deprive them of profit.
I highly doubt Nintendo will take legal action against this, you people don’t understand how ouya works, anything submitted to the store is accepted, its an open source console something revolutionary for its time where everything is locked down behind $100+ dev kit at most, AT MOST Nintendo will be able to have them take down the emulators from their store. As long as they arn’t distributing roms they’re fine. More over, most emulators are open source so finding someone to sue is very hard when dealing with people who make emulators, which are totally legal. To say an emulator maker can be sued because what they made can be used for piracy is like suing a knife maker because a person was stabbed with it.
All android devices are capable of this. I play ROMs on my Asus Transformer Prime with an Xbox controller (docked) and a Wii Mote classic (wireless) hooked up to HDMI. OUYA is a joke.
Wow, that’s pretty damn pathetic.
Ouya is supposed to be one of many new devices that are supposed to make traditional consoles ‘extinct’… yet one of the main selling points is playing dodgy Nintendo ports?
Reminds me of the smartphone developers who crow about Nintendo’s doom… before completely ripping-off the Japanese firm’s software.
they never said they wanted to make the traditional consoles extinct, hell they aren’t even looking to compete
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Regardless of the whole legal battle in this thread, I highly doubt that it will emulate the 64, simply because it’s incredibly hard to emulate in any way successfully. Have tried before with pc and psp but it’s not perfect by a long shot.
This is a lost opportunity for Nintendo. They could offer that kind of emulation themselves. OUYA is also cheaper, and runs Android, an ecosystem that many can back.
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