Nintendo of America president was asked by Forbes how he expects Wii U will compete against the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One. Specifically, Fils-Aime pointed out that both the PlayStation 2 and the original Wii were less powerful than the competition, but that didn’t stop either of those consoles dominating the marketplace. However, both consoles had a huge array of games along with some notable classics. Here’s what he had to say.
“The processing power of the hardware really doesn’t matter. I say that with confidence looking at the most recent generation of home consoles where the Wii, which the broad industry looked at and said “boy, that seems to be underpowered” but sold 100 million units globally. And the consumer saw the innovation of the Wii Remote and the active gameplay we offered.”
“Even if you look at the generation before that, it was Sony’s product that was underpowered compared to the other two home consoles and yet they won that generation. In the end it comes down to the games. The games drive the install base, the games excite the consumer. We feel excited about the games not just from a first party perspective, But from third party as well.”
First
Lol
You got some on your chin again.
Yeah sure whatever
im not even mad XD
Ps2 won because it had GAMES, it had amazing first party and Third party, which the wiki is currently lacking. Plus it wasn’t that much behind in power compared to the wii was and the wii u is. Stop making excuses for being cheap asses.
Wii* dam autocorrect
Wii U*
I have to agree that you had a point there: PS2 was a console overloaded with good titles.
A lot of big talk to defend a console that so far has provided no innovation OR good games. Nice one, Reggie. Hopefully when they turn it around, everyone will eat their words, though.
On point.
you look like kevjumba
-___- Not again.
You and I both know the PS2 sold so well because it was the cheapest DVD player on the market
I think everyone knows that. It did end up having some good games though.
No PS2 won cos had games cos Sony had pay for first and third party games not like this SCUMBAGS nintendo who think only for their selfish asses and copy and paste from 20 years one Zelda and Mario
Jac and Daxter and Crash Bandicoot with all of his karting games says hi.
it won because it was a dvd player
Mean while psvita is lacking in games aswell… last time i searched news for ps2 it was being takin over by ds in most sold console.
Yes, but they are talking about. Underpowered home consoles.
True. And Nintendo dont have the third party support like Sony had with PS2.
However, I would love for Wii U to have great third party support. But even if it gets none at all, I would be happy with the Nintendo magic.
ps1 cd gimmick ps2 dvd gimmick ps3 boo ray gimmick xbox download music gimmick dvd gimmick 360 xbox live hd dvd gimmick that’s all they have are gimmicks and 3rd party bailouts
The ignorance is strong in this one
Why art thou grief stricken my brother?
GameCube also had games, too. Wii did have good games, as well, but lacked third-party support, as it was not in HD, which is what most third-party companies required. Wii U, Xbox One, and PS4 are all in HD, but the Wii U is not as powerful as the other two, but has as much support that it needs. EA is not a need, though they will develop some games for Wii U.
No, dude. The Wii had plenty of brilliant titles. Some of the best games ever made.
the wii was the greatest until the u showed up every multiplat from the 7th gen would of been better with motion imo
that is exactly what he said.. the difference in hardware capabilitesmay not have been quite as big as it’s now between wii U and the new consoles but it was definitely noticeable…. and if you want a more appropriate comparison.. just look at N64 and playstation… the playstation was a lot weaker than the N64 (difference is comparable to wii U and PS4/Xbone today) and sold 3 times (!) more units than the N64
reggie is spot on in his assessment and you’re just making a bad trolling attempt as usual
PlayStation also had CD-ROM, which could hold roughly 600 MB. No one wanted to mess with small-ass cartridges. That made games more difficult to make.
the N64 had plenty of good games…
And the PS2 started with fewer games, just like the Wii U.
Third parties slowly added to it over time and it became a blow-out success despite its lower power.
The Wii U will do the same; it’d take a moron to actually think it can’t happen.
playstation dont have any 1 party lol just 2nd and 3rd loooool
U suck
Why u mad bro?
interesting
is he trying to say gamecube had bad games lol?
They had good games but to me lacked a bit still. He does make a point. Don’t need a over powered console to make it a best seller.
No, he is saying that power and graphics does not have an impact on sales at all…
High Command is very aware about how the industry and its fanbases work…
Well spoken my Lord Regginator!
Reggie makes an amazing point :).
Btw Omg how far are you up there? You couldn’t use lube or at least spittle before you shoved your head up Nintendo’s ass, it’s taking forever to remove it, this surgery is lethal. :0
Lisa, please stop bashing him.
I noticed you complaining about the community here, but I can’t see you helping to improve it.
But it’s fun D:
If you think it’s funny, I’d have to say that you are such a sadist person.
Leave him alone. I saw you screwing him elsewhere earlier today.
He’s terrorising the site and saying nothing but bad things about Nintendo?
Is that a question or an affirmation?
By the way, I’ve never seen Nintendo Commander saying bad things about Nintendo.
Me either, Lol i love how he talks like he’s in the army XD
Same here! :)
me too!
Indeed.
I like the way he stays in character, it’s light hearted from what I have seen.
He’s a unreliable resource, only here to suck-up,and ass-kiss Nintendo… Nintendo does not need people like that, because then they’ll be in denial to what’s right and what’s wrong. I’m a Nintendo fan, but it pains me too see a suck-up like NC blab out his mouth, about utter crap…
Please, you’ve already said that elsewhere.
Let’s close the case, ok?
I highly doubt you’ve heard me say that elsewhere, even on my old comments all i said from that reply was “ass-kisser”. But i’m sure i’m done explaining myself to the likes of you, all you do is sit there and support Nintendocommander’s ass kissing, reply when you’re finish riding his cock…
Why are you flaming him? He’s nicely asking you to stop bashing another Nintendo fan, If you don’t like NC then ignore him.
He’s obnoxious o.0, but if you tell me to stop i’ll stop :3
u kinda cute u can ride my cock
I’m 16 don’t be a fucking perv.
He is what I call an “Internet alter ego”. He can do so in here because he is a Nintendo fan in a Nintendo Website. Lots of people are more fanatic than him around the web. Just leave him alone and go with the flow. If you can’t take it, then don’t mind him.
She’s probably lucid…
And you’re probably high, seems like you’ve been eating to many mushrooms.
On the contrary my dear…of course only an Amanda Bynes such as yourself would assume so!
You sound like a jackass, you don’t know how idiotic you come off.
Such a potty mouth…then again, that’s normal for your kind!
Lol, why are you so mad xD
What would you say if I said I feel in love with u?
I’d say You’re lying, because everytime i speak i’m grouped on by over-the-top annoying fanboys,perverted pedos,or obnoxious trolls.
Actually, he’s terrorising the site for not saying bad things about Nintendo. :)
Even if I’m not lying?
Then i’d ask what you love about me :)
First, you are a Nintendo fan. Second, you appear to be really cut and smart, and the list goes on ;)
Thank you, i’m glad someone likes me for me ^-^.
Sadly, you are to good for me :(
All humans are equal :) Saying someone is too good for you shows you have low self-esteem, and you sound to nice for that. :)
But your boyfriend likes you this way as well, doesn’t he?
I don’t have a boyfriend o.o i moved to korea for almost a month now, with my mother, when i lived in america i used to have a boyfriend.
I think you are talking to yourself…
I thhink she is too, i mean its kinda obvious, shes not even that pretty.
ehh i say 6
Why the hell will i reply to mindself? And i bet you’re no looker either.
… Like i said always annoying trolls -_-
Really, I wont post anymore so you dont have anymore problems. Sorry if I made you feel embarrased :(
Don’t assume anyone’s replying to themselves, that’s like implying i’ve been everyone who’s replied to me in arguments in these forums, in fact i was in an argument with erich and Nintendocommander during the time i got these replies. Can the users of this site get anymore stupid?
It’s harder for them to get even more stupid, but if I said I’m not you, they wouldn’t believe.
They’ll assume even more…
Sorry, there isn’t anything I can do to help u.
And for the trolls: GTFO.
Sincerely,
Anonymous Knight
Lol, You’re trying to hard xD i know you’re one of those trolls -_-.
About the low self-steem, I was bit TOO dramatic, really dont know what happened, maybe to see how your reaction’d be.
Ok now, I was the only person protecting you, and you call me troll. Well, I may start trolling you then, if that is what you want…
My god the people on this site -_- just quit it with the annoying ranting and assumptions… i’m tired of all you trolls on the site.
When an anonymous user heavily compliments you it kinda gives other users the idea. Not trying to start an arguement.
If you are mad with me, then sorry, but on this discussion, I was the only anonymous here. Seriously.
No you aren’t there’s more than one of you on this post o.0
In this discussion with you, it’s only me. Believe me please.
There was an early Anonymous in this conversation not to long ago that typed “u kinda cute u can ride my cock”,so that was also you? Trolls always roam in packs -_-.
Oh, I forgot a reason : you have an outstanding smile.
I’m finished with you people, this is the last comment i’m making on these forums… The endless variety of ways you trolls attack people who disagree with you, is far way to annoying to comprehend… The only thing worse than trolls on here are the sony x microsoft fanboys, and the ass-kissing fans, are you seriously just going to stand there, time after time waiting for someone to reply just to piss them off and annoying the living hell out of them? You know forums like these are bad, when the rival fans make more sense then these so called “Nintendo fanboys”. Goodbye no more posts from me.
I wasnt the one you are talking about.
You’re smile is ugly
Now this last one saying : “You’re smile is ugly” is a troll, not me.
No it’s me i’m only kidding with ya. You look like that shit i took earlier :(
Like i’d actually let trolls run me off xD.
By “shit” i think you’re most likely thing of your retarded, lucid, useless, physical and mentally fucked up mother, you know one of those mothers that went to the docter after she gave birth at home? You sick inbredded piece of miniature crap. Your mother should’ve swallowed her fathers cum instead of taken it in her deformed yeast effected cunt, but it’s to late and there you lye, the misshapened mutated waste of a human…
Good, no one will miss your ass…
If you wanna see a good forum where there is almost no trolls, go to wiiudaily.com. I wish you the very best success.
Man, you guys who post as anonymous are annoying:(
Sadly, here in WordPress, the admins cant do nothing to remove these comments…
This is the last post Im making as anonymous, just to tell you which posts were ppl trolling you and which one were me. The trolls are: “u kinda cute u can ride my cock”, “You’re smile is ugly”,”No it’s me i’m only kidding with ya. You look like that shit i took earlier :(“.
I don’t care who you are, your well being, I also wouldn’t give a fuck if you were telling the truth, i don’t know you, but you act as if we’ve always been close friends. lol, you couldn’t be more off. Ride to hell on the devils cock,but then you’ll be getting double penetrated because surely you’re cock sucking Nintendo like the majority of this site.
Can everyone please stop attacking the girl, respect her opinions and that and get on with your lives and enjoy the site?…
Lisa, Sorry for all the things I made to you, and you don’t have to forgice us( even if I weren’t trolling) but again, Sorry.
It’s ok, it’s just this forum
Can we leave it all on the ground and be friends? If dont , feel free to say.
I don’t mind :), i’ma go get so sleep :l too tired.
And can we chat??
Bu t only if you dont mind, because, if you mind, you can just trash me , never look back at me and leave me alone…
High Command sent it’s tanks into battle without ammunition and it’s bombers in the air without any bombs.
They said they wouldn’t do that after sending their troops into battle with empty clips (3DS)
Well considering how much backslash they have gotten recently, I’m sure they will try alot harder for the next console launch…
If not then I myself will be annoyed…
nah, just that people weren’t as excited for the Gacube games as, let’s be honest, GTA
I much preferred games like Gotcha Force over GTA. Just saying.
Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ^o^
Hey, is the froggy guy. :D
What are you? o.o
http://youtu.be/cBkWhkAZ9ds
Squuuuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeeeee （⌒▽⌒）
Soo you’re a misshapened rat o.o?
(ノ；Д；)ノ ｀、、ヽ｀☂ヽ｀、ヽ｀｀、ヽ｀、ヽ｀ヽ
….Squeee ._.
Don’t mind her…she’s probably mad she doesn’t squeeeeee herself anymore!
I’d like to sqeeee you with a pitch fork…
I thought you were leaving.
;_; Squeeeee ;[[[
SKWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEKKKKKZZZZZ (O.O) KWWWHOOOOOAAAAAHKK
Never heard of Gotcha Force, but I was generalizing, since pretty much everyone I knew had a PS 2 for two reasons 1: GTA 2: DVD-Player
Yup I remember when vice city came out. You couldn’t find that game anywhere. That is the first and probably only time I will ever see a game sold out at every single retailer
No.
So is the Wii U basically a PS2, Xbox One is Gamecube, PS4 is Xbox?
Oh god, that means Xbox One is being compared to my favorite console of all time…..*shudder*
I know right XD
Indeed, it’s disgusting…
You just made up those comparisons and it wasn’t clever or funny.
except that gamecube is way better than xbox one
Stupid fucking Wii U.
no u
Long time no see walter ;)
;)
Oh wrong reply button :p
No u? That’s what you got? That’s it?
You’re disgustingly back, sir.
Thanks for making our day even better.
I never left.
You never right.
Ah, :)
:)
You’re a sad bastard that craves attention, probably because you have nothing else to do with your life but seek negative attention from people who don’t give two shits about you, your post, or your well-being, so you end up annoying the living hell out of people to bring doubt and uncomfort to a community, to whom’s people enjoy the main topic of the sites title. So you desperately wait for replies to make you feel better about yourself, which is much more pitiful than sickening in my opinion..
Well thanks for giving a shit about my post, since you clearly responded. So yes, now I do feel better as a matter of fact, since a fucknut like you bit the hook, and now sadly I have to gut you. Next time, just keep swimming little fishy.
Hmm… Doesn’t hurt as much as i thought it would, who am i kidding, you’re full of shit, the only thing that’s more satisfying to me than shutting you the hell up, is eating a bowl of corn flakes,It really doesn’t take much effort to insult someone like you, seeing as how your insults hurt less than that of a immature eight year old on a mini school bus.
You’re so sad of a Nintendo troll that this community actually likes you,shouldn’t you drive them away and make them abandon all hope in wiiu? Lol
When have you ever shut me up? Please tell me this, I’d like to take note of this. If that was some sort of insult, I applaud you on your attempt. I don’t care what this community thinks of me. I come, I say what the fuck I want, and I expose the knob gobblers like you that have infested this site for far too long. Please, back up, take me out of your mouth, and keep eating your corn flakes like a good girl.
Do you hear that sound? It’s the sound of your balls dropping,now that you’ve matured enough to dish a good, you actually got around to insulting me, with an actual insult.
Who exactly are you exposing? The way i see it is there’s three types of people on these forums: Rival fanboys, Hardcore Ass-Kissers, and Casual bloggers. The way I see it is you’re two out of the three giving subjects, i’ll let you choose. By the way I was speaking metaphorically when i said i was going to shut you the hell up, get it right moron.
Yawn.
Guess you’re calling it quits? I expected more from “The Great Walter”.
Why’d you stop commenting >.<?
You forgot normal gamers. who want to know more than “nintemdo is doomed”, “its the worst”, suddenly dropping nintendo news and et cétera. And is all that bashing really needed (-.-)?
Bashing is needed, and i meant normal gamers when i said casual bloggers on these Nintendo forums.
Goddamit Walter. Can’t wait till Hank fucking kills you, you asshole.
I’m Walter fucking White. Nothing fucks with me.
WHO IS WALTER WHITE!?
Breaking Bad.
I’m fucking you right now. See my penis in your mouth ? … its MY penis.
I’ve missed you so much <3
I’d miss me too if I were you.
Never trust a bald man. If his head looks like your ass, you know he’s full of shit.
Never trust a fuckface with idiotic quotes. If your ass looks like a bald mans head, you should get yourself checked out.
I have a squeaky, smooth, shiny and clean butt I’ll have you know.
To lure in all the pipe cloggers you can?
@pipe cloggers…lmfao!!!!!!
Hey look it’s pinwheel!
Dude! Where have you been?
Meth.
>:/…
;)
Lisa, altough you are very beautiful , u can’t just come down here and expect everything to change with this trolls. You are almost trolling the trolls. :)
Stop commenting to yourself Lisa.
lol
Sorry if I have hurt u, I didn’t mean to.
The only thing you hurt was your miniature sized brain…
Wow, it isn’t good post as anonymous, like I didn’t post the perv one, but no1 can really see it. :(
I replied to your other comment.
I was just worried you thought I said that things. But I was saying that bashing trolls isn’t the best way to get them out of here, ‘cuz they will see they are being heard. My advice is: simply leave them alone. ;)
I troll, trolls :)
Get the fuck out of here, Walter. No one likes you. Lol, just kidding. Welcome back, sir.
Almost went Heisenberg on you…. ;)
lol
Wow…it get’s violent here at night!
Tell me about it.
SNES was weaker than Megadrive as PSOne was weaker the Nintendo 64.
weaker than*
Weaker than Sega Genesis?
Haven’t heard anything stating that.
Actually PSOne was more superior than N64 hardware
Actually the N64 is vastly more powerful than the PS1. The only advantage the PS1 had over the N64 was that it was a CD-ROM based console.
Go look at specs. I suggest Google as your start point.
Eeeeeeh no
No the PS1 was 32 bit and the N64 was 64 bit. The PS1 was more successful because devs were more drawn to its cheaper to produce discs which also housed more memory than cartridges could.
It’s more-so because Nintendo pissed off their 3rd party support. There were huge lines ups of games for the Virtual Boy and Nintendo 64 Disc Drive and both were pulled off the market before anything could be done with them.
Infact, it’s a proven fact that the n64DD was about as powerful as the gamecube and had MUCH better features. You the Swap Notes and Miiverse you love so much? The N64DD had that even before that. The 64DD was technically the first console with built-in broadband as well. It was fantastic but ultimately dropped just because the gamecube was coming.
You know those awesome titles we never got like Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy? Originally they were gonna be on the 64 DD. Oh yeah, not to mention we were going to get sequels to Mario 64 and Mario RPG AND expansions to titles like Ocarina of Time.
WHAT? N64 COULD HAVE GOT FINAL FANTASY? WHAT? WHAT? WHAT? WHAT THE HELL NINTENDO!!!
huh? I thought SNES>Megadrive.. is it because of the CD and 32X add-ons? Not that it matters at all, just curious.
Those add-ons made the Megadrive a mess. The only thing it really had on the SNES was speed apparently. It was either twice as fast or almost twice as fast as the SNES…which I couldn’t tell and I had both.
…didn’t play the Genesis much. It was great if you loved sports games, but I mainly enjoyed it for Phantasy Star, Sonic, Earthworm Jim, Streets of Rage, and Comix Zone.
Well said Reggie
Reggie always gets things right
The PS2 was awesome.
the cube was awesome
What games Reggie? lolololol the Wii U is a paperweight. That shit is collecting dust. Have fun plays remakes and your kiddie Mario games while the rest of us will be playing the real games; Dead Rising 3, Halo, KH3.
Troll harder.
i am hard ;) u want to suk?
With that username, you lost any kind of credibility, sorry. :)
some1 cant like cod and b a nintndo fan? whut is the world cumin 2?
A place where someone can’t spell for a can of beans because they dropped out of elementary school.
Also, next time put two “m”s on “cumin.” It’ll be funny.
Step 1: Call Mario games “kiddie” games Step 2: Call Kingdom Hearts, a game about basicly going to Disneyland a “real” game. Conclusion: your deffinitions of “kiddie” and “real” games are weird!
step 1: merio is jus nintndo cod
step 2: kh > merio
concluison: ur a fagoht
ok this is the worst troll i’ve ever seen
and ur the worse dik sukker ive had
Obviously he’s trying to annoy as much ppl as possible. Unfortunately many of the people on this site cant ever seem to understand that
the u is the start of a new era the first power required console ever ps4 box1 are not even close
As long as the software is great, people will come.
Having powerful hardware isn’t the be-all and end-all of a console. If it was, PC gaming wouldn’t be as widespread as it is. You only need the highest-end parts if you want to play games on their highest settings, but those games play just fine on a mid-tier system.
Because everyone can afford to be constantly upgrading a PC for the best games. Right.
Yes , because the wii u have a lot of games like the ps2 -_-
Nintendo is reaching for anything to justify they’re bullshit
Didnt ask for your opinion why u mad
Well I gave it anyway, deal with it
“Nintendo is reaching for anything to justify they are bullshit”
Dude…my god learn2grammar
You’re missing a space after that ellipses.
Learn2grammar yourself.
Because the Wii U has been out for 13 years, amirite?
It hasn’t even been out for a year yet, you impatient retard.
It’s barely had a chance to prove itself yet, and yet everyone’s complaining.
Plenty of new games were shown at E3. But it seems as enough is never enough for the haters…
Yes , hater , one does not simply compare any console to the ps2 .
Until they bring 3rd party support my statement isn’t going to change .
I didn’t know PS2 was less powerful than GameCube and XBOX
Just compare RE4 on Gamecube and PS2. It’s quite obvious.
is actually true, it was the weakest.
Oh Reggie, your wisdom makes my body so Reggie
I’m afraid Nintendo is getting out of tune.
Reggie words seem to be a desperate move to convince consumers that Wii U is well worth, which seems not to be the case so far.
I feel they are in the middle of a desert, waiting for the rain that will never come.
As time passes, Wii U is gradually losing third-party support – just see the bad news lately. Gamers are no longer hopeful about Wii U fate, even Nintendo fans like me. I’ve been convinced that Nintendo has made a huge mistake in releasing it so early and forcing gamers to use such an awkward controller which requires you to go back-and-forth from the TV screen to it.
Game & Wario is nothing but crap when compared to Wii Sports, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Play and Wii Play Motion.
Get a hold of yourself.
PS: I’d rather play Game & Wario and share drawings on Miiverse than pretend to play baseball any fucking day.
Happy you.
That’s you though. The majority of other people will disagree.
the majority of people are retarded
Lets rewind one year
Average Gamer in mynintendonews: I’m afraid Nintendo is getting out of tune.
Reggie words seem to be a desperate move to convince consumers that 3ds is well worth, which seems not to be the case so far.
I feel they are in the middle of a desert, waiting for the rain that will never come.
As time passes, the 3ds is gradually losing third-party support – just see the bad news lately. Gamers are no longer hopeful about 3ds fate, even Nintendo fans like me. I’ve been convinced that Nintendo has made a huge mistake in releasing it so early and suggesting gamers to look such an awkward screen which requires you to go back-and-forth from the 3d screen to the touchscreen it.
Pilotwings resort is nothing but crap when compared to New Super Mario bros, Mario Kart DS and Super Mario 64 DS.
You are very loud and creative, Silent. :)
Do you know anything about the 3DS $80.00-price cut that happen in the past?
Do you believe Nintendo will drop the Wii U price in short-term?
Do you really think Wii U fortune will bring it success and recognition? I really would like to believe in it, but I just no longer can.
By the way, I’ve never, ever, said that about Nintendo 3DS, and purchased and supported mine since day-one.
The price cut really had nothing to do with it. The 3DS started receiving a steady stream of games with SM3D Land, and they are continuing to this day.
I haven’t addressed the price cut. You know what else got a price cut? The PS Vita, in Japan, where handhelds are bigger than consoles. Sales quadrupled, and for one week it outsold the 3DS. Now? SONY has abandoned it to ports and as an expensive Gamepad knockoff. The difference is that the 3DS got games, while the Vita didn’t. People don’t want portable consoles, they want different systems with different games. The Wii U is starting to receive a lot of good games, and all of its big releases besides SM3D World will be out by Black Friday. Even if there’s no official price cut, the second half of 2013 will be amazing for the Wii U.
I’m not being a fanboy, I’m just using data as evidence for an educated guess. Essentially, I just supported my hypothesis.
I am sure the price cut played a role in the increase of 3DS sales – the numbers prove it. Just to to VGChartz and look for it – the admins of this blog don’t allow posting links here in the comments sections, although a number of people do so.
You mentioned an interesting point: the PS Vita. It is an amazing machine, but it lacks appealing, blockbuster games. Its library is just ok. I see the same happening to Wii U. No marketing, no good games, no sales, no increasing in the install base, no third party-support – I do not know what is cause and what is consequence, but anyway – no future.
I wouldn’t mind just having first- and second-party games on Wii U. But it seems that Nintendo has gotten lost in their own dream in the sense that they have never been so sluggish and pointless. The titles in the pipeline are just ok; none of them will be a system seller, except for Mario Kart 8 – but it is a guess, no more than that.
I wanted so badly to be proved wrong, actually. Time will tell.
Super Mario 3D Land was a weak game. Just sayin’. Even my friend, a die-hard Nintendo fan, agrees.
Anyway, moving on…
I had to wait 6 months after the 3DS released to get any good games (that is, games I thought worthy of my limited money, like StarFox 64 3D and Ocarina of Time 3D). Until then I had to rely on the Ambassador Program in order to not let my 3DS collect dust.
Not entirely sure where that fits into your argument. Just thought I’d throw it out there.
So whats my point: You guys are impatient. You prefer to just declare the console as a failure just like people labeled the 3ds as a failure. And now people are going to tell me that ”it was because of the vita and the lack of competition” BS. In this industry there is no real, or hardcore or VIP gamer. I’m waiting for Nintendo to release their games. Im tired of people saying the Wii U is only for casuals. There is only casual and non-casual. People who call themselves hardcore gamers are just kids trying to look cool infront of other idiots. The term is just a way of social acceptance because they dont have any social skills to be accepted in society. As of now, the Wii U is having a rough start, but it its not failing
Do you really believe Wii U will ever have such an amazing library of games like Nintendo 3DS does?
Games sell boxes. If Wii U is struggling against competition of 360 and PS3, imagine how tough the picture will get when XBone and PS4, that are just down the road, reach the market. The latter consoles are more appealing – at least to developers – than Wii U. And when it comes for gamers, the PS4 is, undoubtedly and sadly, far more appealing than the Wii U.
This scenario is nothing close to that one which Nintendo 3DS ever faced.
You are giving up hope too soon. Nintendo has definitely made some mistakes but it won’t be the end of them. It’s going to take awhile but their console will be fine. I hope your opinion is your own and you’re not just banwagoning off of all this Nintendo hatred that seems to be popular as of late. It’s not over until they give an official statement saying they stopped supporting Wii U. I just don’t see that happening. They stuck it out with the Gamecube and they will do the same for Wii U. As time goes on people tend to jump on nostalgia. No one seemed to care much for the Gamecube back then when it released, but now people are all “Oh heavenly Gamecube! You were the best!” The same thing is going to happen with Wii U. Sometimes you don’t know how great something was until it’s gone. I feel Wii U will be the ultimate Nintendo console over time. It’s already shaping up to be the embodiment of all things Nintendo. It has something for old and new gamers given their steadily growing library. 3rd party support will naturally pick up once Nintendo picks up their pace with game releases.
God hear you.
I want Wii U being a successful console eventually. Today, I just can’t see how.
Too bad we have to wait till the FUCKING END OF THE YEAR before we get some good games. If this kind of drought happens again I don’t know what i’ll do. Nintendo, please, hire more people so you can make your games faster.
Right. Reggie is talking about games that Nintendo have yet to start to work on as they were about to be released.
Think about it… would you rather have a rushed mess of a game, or would you rather have them take their time so that the game is as good as possible. No one ever thinks of the developers… impatient little whiners…
How about they hire more devs so they can do their quality Nintendo magic a little faster? Fucking apologetic fanboy…………..
The PS2 also had games, and was a DVD player. Wii U right now is neither.
LOL
That was only true last generation because of the price and the interest of the wii. This generation the Wii U only has the price. Even then it is only 100 dollars cheaper than the Ps4. To be honest, the Wii U is lacking in games and no one really cares about it. The older generation only liked the wii because it was easy to use. Without any real advertising they don’t know what the Wii U is. People that are in their 30’s want something with good games, good power, without a huge pricetag. The PS4 has proved that it meets all of the requirements.
Graphics don’t matter, but when you have few games, terrible advertising, and a price point that hardly makes it competitive, you have nothing. The Wii U is destined to fail unless they actually advertise it as a whole new system, or they come out with more good games. Smash bros will help sure, but by that point people will be invested in their Xbox and Playstation. The Wii U will be forgotten this holiday season for sure.
Therefore, it is incredibly difficult to compare the Wii U to the Wii or the PS2. The only real comparison to be made are the less than perfect graphics. Until Nintendo quits making the mistakes it has been, the Wii U will fail.
U SHOULD TAKE REGGIES JOB STUPID PIZZA HUT MAN
^This.
Moreover, I’m grabbing a PS4 at launch. First time in life I’ll get a non-Nintendo console. I’m tired of skipping good titles due to the lack of third-party support to Nintendo.
ME TOO I AM GETTING A PS4 AT LAUNCH FIRST TIME I EVER GOT A CONSOLE AT LAUNCH AND EVEN THO I AM A FAN OF SSB I KNOW THE NEXT ONE ISNT WORTH 400 BUCKS CUZ THEY WILL FUCK UP THE ONLINE AGAIN
You’re making a good choice man, I have nothing against Nintendo, they have fantastic first party games and all, but you really do miss out on a lot of third party games if you stay exclusively with nintendo.
Mine is pre-ordered already! =D
Yeah, I’ve been a loyal Nintendo fan for over 25 years… But I do want to play all the good titles that sadly won’t head to Wii U.
And, of course, Sony has an interesting catalogue of first-party titles.
any game that’s not on the u is not good enough 4 the u i am sure the u will have more than enough games i can play anywhere i can find a power socket that’s the level kingtendo is on sonysoft gets lots of help cuz they are pathetic
EXCEPT WII U DONT GOT NO GAMES REGGIE
BBBBBBBBUT WE HAVE CAT MARIO!!!!!!! CATS! MARIO! HOW CAN WE GO WRONG!!!!
Pika Pika Pikachu
(I never new the PlayStation was the weakest)
PS4 is $400 instead of $500 because it dropped the camera. Xbox One is $500 because it has its camera (Kinect). I really would’ve payed $400 or $450 for my Wii U if they used the extra dollars to make it more competitive. Not to mention, the Wii U has some other noteworthy issues:
-GamePad doesn’t charge with USB, so why bother having FOUR USB ports with two IN THE FRONT?!
-No Ethernet cable
-Wii U Pro controller lacks multiple features
-Stressing GamePad use
-DVD Player
-More things I’m forgetting.
The lack of power means it’ll lack in games. PS2 still got games. Developers are already moving away from the console. It’s already too late.
Ethernet port*
Pika Pika Pi Pikachu
(He does have a point)
The lack of an Ethernet port really surprised me. Like, really? Not ok. The gamepad breaks immersion therefore making hardcore gaming very difficult. DVD player still? Jeebus Christ are we cavemen???
You’d think after focusing on the PS3 and 360 they would’ve added a DVD player. If all of this crap is because of the “expensive” GamePad, I really would rather be without it.
People keep wanting Nintendo to implement some innovative function in their games with the GamePad and yet Nintendo doesn’t. That’s because developers have already done pretty much everything that CAN be done!
Don’t get me wrong, I love it, but I’d rather have a normal console that kills the competition and deals out super powered Zelda and Metroid games.
YES IF THEY CHARGED 100 DOLLARS MORE, DROPPED THE GAMEPAD AND WENT WITH A PC ARCHITECTURE LIKE PS4 THEY WOULD WIN THIS GEN EASY. SEE ITS NOT THAT HARD TO RUN A MULTIBILLION DOLLAR COMPANY AND MAKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR EVEN IF YOU DONT GRADUATE FROM HARVARD BUISNESS SCHOOL
It’s simply not a match for the other consoles. PS4/ONE’s GCN is way more efficient than Wii U’s stoneage VLIW5, they….or PS4 atleast is a lot easier to program for which results in less or equal cost by a much better outcome. 1GB vs 7GB’s……there’s not even a competition, USB3.0 Superspeed, INTERNAL HDD with 20*the size of Wii U Premium’s user available storage and so on…..
In my opinion PS4 and Xbox 1 are basically custom PCs wouldn’t surprise me if emulating their games would be a piece of cake.
I’m fine with the GamePad but I would like to have payed $100 more for a console that GETS GAMES. The reason why it’s not $250 is because of the GamePad itself. If they dropped the GamePad and then raised $100 it’d be $350 still lol. I’d want it the same price as PS4 or in between PS4 and X1.
where were u spec bitches in the 64 cube era ps4 box1 have overated specs going by dollars i bet u we are not going to see fifty dollar difference the whole gen that makes the u double better
no
yeah, i dont want multiple dvd/blu-ray players, one is fine, second, your right about no port for Ethernet connection but you can connect an Ethernet cable using an adapter, 3, unless you have the brightness settings to 1 then it lasts longer, not much but still,
Hey guys! Nintendo just confirmed Mother 3 for the 3ds! http://tinyurl.com/hx9l7
DON’T CLICK ON THIS LINK!
It’s actually just a news article talking about the steam summer sale. Lol
NO IT’S PORN!!! O.O
I guess you could call that porn. I am totally excited to pick up Tomb Raider for 7.50. Assuming that is is all true that is.
HOW ARE YOU OKAY!? THAT WAS DISGUSTING! I AM RINSING MY EYES OUT WITH RUBBING ALCOHOL…..IT IS ALSO THE REASON WHY I AM SCREAMING BECAUSE THIS RUBBING ALCOHOL IS BURNING MY EYES!!!!!!!
Just because you hate PC and steam doesn’t mean you should call it Porn! I mean, sure my PC is basically my porn but still….
PORN IS NOT PC AND STEAM! THAT WAS “REAL” PORN! LIKE SOME GUY WAS FORNICATING WITH SOME OTHER GUY O.O
buy syain its pr0nz mor ppl will cum to it
IT IS MALE ON MALE PORN….QUITE UNSIGHTLY…
Piiiiiikkkkkaaaaccchhuu!!!
(My eyes!!!)
amazing isnt it, nintndo finaly lvled up
PIKACHU!!! YOU POOR LITTLE THING! I’LL GET YOU SOME RUBBING ALCOHOL!!!
Pikachu Pika Pi
(Thank you cause I need something)
*gives rubbing alcohol… THERE YA GO!
its mother 3 i dont know what kind of shit u look up in ur freetime
wuts the matter? u jelly ’bout a good gaye cummin to nintndo?
*BARF*
Hahaha! Didn’t fall for it! You can’t fool me with shock sites :P
seriously, u gonna believe haters? Its mother 3 i promise on my life
Hey nubby, here’s the REAL link to Mother 3:
http://tinyurl.com/nn6w4cc
OH MY GOD! I FELL FOR IT AGAIN! I HAVE BURNED THE IMAGES OF A WOMAN MAKING LOVE TO A GUITAR INTO MY RETINAS F.O.R.E.V.E.R!!! WHERE IS THE GODDAMN RUBBING ALCOHOL!!!!!!!?????
This one’s soft
http://tinyurl.com/4xur8r
ファミコンおたく, DON’T LISTEN TO NUBBY!!! WHATEVER YOU DO!!!!!
Power means nothing if you have good games. That’s basically what Reggie said and he is completely right.
Pikachu Pika
(That’s true too)
But power means something if it brings you games! Nintendo always manages to screw up the chances for support with a dealbreaker.
N64: We’ll use Cartridges with less space and higher cost because that’s what evrybody wants!
Gamecube: We have powerful hardware and a good controller. Hmm, everyone seems to want a “it only does everything”…. Nah we’ll use mini DVDs.
Wii:We have a standard optical media and a new idea….hmmm oh yes we’ll make it extremely underpowerd….
Wii U: Ok it seems like we need strong hardware to get those games but we need to lie and release a stopgap system that can’t keep up and miss the chance to use standard hardware.
That’s true on the N64. Although I will admit in 1996-1999, if I wanted something I could loan and expect back in working/cosmetic condition it was cartridges all day.
Loaning a CD in middle school and you were basically telling a classmate “Please return my PS game in a condition that seems like you either left it on the dashboard in the southern heat clear side up or dragged it behind your bicycle in the alley with all the broken Wild Irish Rose and other assorted whiskey bottles. Please?”
How is a user benefiting from sales number which’s money he doesn’t get ?
And did selling the most make the PS2 games playable ?
One big problem with his comparison. PS2 had excellent third-party support, considering that that was when Sony nabbed the big RPG franchises (Final Fantasy, Tales of, etc.)
Honestly, while I am very much looking forward to the great 1st-party title for Wii U, third-part developers just don’t seem to want to develop for it. Even Ubisoft seems to be jumping off the bandwagon a bit.
I love Nintendo and I always will, but even I have to admit, they’re also going a very good job of pissing off 3rd-party developers.
3RD PARTIES AREN’T PISSED, THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE MONEY!
Perish in hell caps lock guy.
I WILL DROWN YOU IN RUBBING ALCOHOL! MARK MY WORDS, STONEWORK!
Ok, I can send you A LINK TO A PAGE WITH MY ADDRESS but oh wait …. I guess you won’t klick it because there might be porn in it…..or an over the air punch.
Pikachu Pika Pikachu Pi
(Nintendo does need third party because after a while first party won’t be enough)
PERISH IN HELL YOU FUCKING DEVIL POKEMON. YOU AND YOUR WHOLE GAME SERIES IS THE OUTCOME OF ALLOWING HARD DRUGS AT PEOPLE’S JOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pika Pi Pikachu
(Hahaha I didn’t know I had such a big influence)
Hey Stonework, you want me to come over der and smack u upside duh head?! I’ll do it, bitch! 💋
Pika
(Damn)
Come on, try it, find my home and get your free beating.
I’ll be there soon enough. Just remember, Ice type is super effective against rock type ;) 💋
oh crap… no its not. Rock is super effective against ICE!! Some one help!😱💋
Pikachu pika pika
(I’m sorry wish I could :()
No worries. I’ll learn Wake Up Slap in another level. I’ll just smasck dat bitch! 💋
Pay attention reality is super effective against drug supported illusions! And reality WILL HIT YOU LIKE A ROCK!
Pikachu
(Hahaha)
What Reggie says is true… 💋
Pika
(hello)
Jyyyynx 💋
(Hi)
Pika Pika Pikachu
(Hahaha hey that’s my thing)
BURN!
Jyyynx Jynx Jynx Jynx 💋
(Well, now it’s mine ;) )
Pika Pi Pikachu Pika
(You can use it :))
Jynx Jynx 💋 ( Just Did! :) )
Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee (ノ；Д；)ノ
DERP DERP DERP! hurr durrr
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Jyyyynx Jynx Jyyynx Jyyyyyyynx!!! 💋 (Now we are all talking in other languages! YAY!)
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Pikachu Pika Pika Pi
(Yes my influence is strong)
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Squuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueee…. (%£@?%!@£%!%£?@!^@£^!)
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Hey looks it’s the mutant rat again ^-^
a wowman… get back in teh kitdhen whr u belong and make me a sammich dammit
You could barely Type a normal sentence lol
ps2 did so well because it had gta 3. point bkank period
The DS was less powerfull than PSP, and it won. The 3DS, less powerful than Vita, sold twice as many units.
Yes I also loved to play pixelation.
you speak of the 3DS as if it was in the past tense…and the VITA’s only had like a year on the market, 2 years like the 3DS. lol.
Ps2 won becouse of piracy and games. In addition to this, ps2 was not so underpowered compared to its competitors. Wii had the wii mote and a lot of casual games.
Wii U has… a touchscreen? Still does not have games and it’s really underpowered compared to xbox1 and ps4.
Nintendo has no excuses this time: wii u is a mistake.
The Wii U isnt that far off either graphically. Looking at comparison videos of Wii U and PS4 put my fears to rest.
+PS2 had a lot of hype before launch…..Wii U not
+PS2 had a lot of support……Wii U not
+PS2 tech matched its launch time………Wii U not
+PS2 had a huge fanbase………Wii U not
+PS2 HAD A HUGE AND WELL MADE M-A-R-K-E-T-I-N-G F-A-M-P-A-I-N……….Wii U not
Thus the day grammar has died -_-…
Only dorky high schoolers care about grammar on videogame forums. Get over yourself.
I’d ask you to get over yourself, but seeing as how your ass is so large it’ll be highly impossible…
The same day grammar nazi bitches like you were born. Do you know what “browsing on a mobile” is? If you type fast on an onscreen keyboard then it’s likely thay you’ll make mistakes. But you probably don’t know what I mean because you’re much likely unable to afford one……..
You’re not even worth my the time xD
wii u has zelda ..C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
the u has several game changers ps2 had one big gimmick wii u is the best console ever no matter who wins gaming on nintendo will be power required from now on the nintendo mob with the u power is going to smash shit and i wouldn’t bet against that
The PlayStation 2 is great. Speaking of PS2 today I picked up Dynasty Warriors 2 for PS2 for only £1.50.
People are acting as if the Wii U has been out for 4 years lol. More games will come out people.
I got banned from Miiverse for saying the VC has been crap so far and then calling the defense force of fanboys that jumped down my throat delusional. HAHAHA!!!! What a fucking joke. Really looking forward to getting my PS4….
The general point here from Reggie is excitement per se – ok then Nintendo – the Wii U did lack some tremendous excitement after launch and now it’s slowly picking up thanks to some quite exciting games. Let’s continue that please***
I don’t know what games Reggie is talking about. The Wii U has no games. The Wii U pretty much has no 3rd party support. What is Reggie talking about if not even 3rd party developers are making games for the Wii U.
The only ones interested in the Wii U are kids. Nintendo forgot about the core gamers. The ones of us who grew up playing on Nintendo systems. They used to have Rare (Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Conker, Jet Force Gemini, etc) Silicon Knights (Eternal Darkness) Left Field (Excitebike64), even the special relationship they had with Factor 5 (all the Rogue Squadron games on the GC, Battle for Naboo on N64). Now the only western studio they have left is Retro and they put them to work on another kiddie game, what a waste of talent. Nintendo used to make other type of games for the ones of us who don’t want all these kiddie games. But they forgot about us. Wave Race, Wave Race Blue Storm, 1080° were also great games.
It took “Operation Rainfall” to convince Nintendo to release Xenoblade, The Last Story, Pandora’s Tower on the West, as clearly Nintendo is so out of touch it had no intention to do so. Apparently even Nintendo thought that those more mature games weren’t going to sell on their system in the West.
That why I am moving to PS4 where I can play the type of games that I want and don’t have to play the kiddie games that Nintendo puts out now and wait years and years for maybe one game that might appeal to me. I’m tired of missing out on all the Triple A games that never get released on Nintendo consoles (Metro Last Light, Bioshock Infinite, GTA5, I can keep going and going) More interested in Ubisofts “The Divison” and “The Crew” than in anything Nintendo showed at E3 (and anything they have put out in the last few years for that matter).
I used to like Nintendo a lot, but the old Nintendo, the Nintendo who had all these awesome 2nd party studios, when they used to make other types of games than all these Mario and kiddie games that I’m not interested in. (I gave a big list of games that I liked that they made back in the day.)
But Nintendo is out of touch, they been so for years. My loyalty to them is gone.
Amen!!!!! They lost me at E3. Fucking Donkey Kong instead of Metroid?????? That Mario game is a joke and anyone that feels otherwise is a god damn noob. When Super Mario bros came out it was a game changer, same with Super Mario World. Mario 64 was the most mindfucking assgasm in the history of gaming when it came out. Now look at em porting handheld games over to fill te roster.
have you like saved this paragraph, cause you used the EXACT same lines again :P
I have never typed this paragraph ever. What?!
I kind of feel the same way. I can see Nintendo becoming irrelevant and no one is doing anything to stop this. This is sad and I am very disappointed with the situation and with Nintendo. I am sure all of us Nintendo fans wish for a miracle, but I do not see that happening any time soon, or ever…
Ps2 had gta 3.
LOL he said “third party” , NEWS FLASH reggie we don’t want disney planes or smurfs 2 or even that croods games… when I see games like gta 5, battlefield, the division, KH3 ,FF, thief on the wiiu only then will I believe .. but atleast nintendo is releasin some first party games from july .. unlike my vita
problem is back in the pre hd era retards weren’t as obsessed with graphical horsepower as they are now and the ps2 had more going for it than games than the cube with its mini disc. in this hd era there are more than just consoles for gaming so comparing the wiiu to the success of the ps2 won’t prove or solve anything.
Nintendo/Reggie desperately trying to put out the flames !
YOU PEOPLE ARE INEPT TO THINK WIIU ISNT NEXT GEN
POWER GFLOPS IS IRRELIVEBT ITS THE EXPERIENCE AND REAL WORLD CAPABILITY THAT MATTERS
IN CASE YOU DIDNT REALIZE WIIU IS VASTLY MORE OPTERMIZED AND WELL DESIGNED VS PS4
OPTERMIZED PRE FETCH AND gDDR3 RAM IS SUB 20NS LATENT AND THE EDRAM AND SRAM IS SUB 5 NS
PS4S GDDR5 IS 200 NS LATENT AND MOTHER BOARD MOUNTED ITS WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY SLOWER THAN WIIUS MEMORY SYSTEM
MAIN RAM READS ARE OVER 10 X LONGER AND VS EDRAM OVER 20 X LONGER
ADD EDRAM DESIGN ALLOWS LIGHTNING FAST READS PER FRAME INSTEAD OF SLOWWWWWWWW READS OUT TO MOTHERBOARD MOUNTED GDDR5
PRESTO WIIU IS EFFIECENT IS THIS SO HARD
A PS2 XBOX GAMECUBE LIKE DIFFERANCE IN A SATERATED HD ERA COMBINED WITH DUALSCREEN TOUCH SCREEN WII REMOTE PLUS ETC
CLEARLY MAKES GFLOP FANBOYS LOOK INSANE AND STUPID
ENOUGH ALREADY WITH 8GB RAM
ITS FUCKING SLOW RAM AND DOESNT FEED GPU DIRECTLY ITS A SLOW CPU BY PASS
WIIUS EDRAM AND SUB MEMORY SYSTEM IS 70X BIGGER THAN PS4 AND LIGHTNING FAST
WIIUS MAIN RAM IS OVER 10 X FASTER THAN PS4
GFLOPS LOL SHUT THE FUK UP AND CUSTOM FIXED FUNCTION ISNT RATED IN FLOPS IDIOTS
TRY EDUCATING YOUR SELVES
Kind of sucks though that a lot of 3rd-party games seem to be running on engines that aren’t compatable with Wii U.
Either that or 3rd-parties aren’t trying hard enough.
tl;dr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2BGsqtY1o0
You could put as much bullshit in caps lock to make yourself seem intelligent about hardware, but it won’t make you intelligent, lol.
I admire your persistence over the month though, but when I’ve called you out for your bullshit numerous times before you never reply with sources or anything to prove it. Because this is all fresh out of your ass, where you will likely find your /shitty/ grades from high school. :P
It’s eclipsed by the Xbox One and PS4 on the hardware front, not even debatable. It’s time to step back into reality, this shtick of yours is getting tired now.
hahaha you’re post indicated you don’t know shit about hardware, good job.
delusional .. you are it :)
Here’s the thing.
There is no console war to me. Any company that tries too hard to match or outdo the competition will fail.
Look at SEGA. They spent so much time attempting to one-up Nintendo and Sony with the 32X, CD, and the Saturn, and by the time they pursued their own vision with the Dreamcast, the PS2 had come along and it was too late.
Nintendo isn’t here to compete, they are here to pursue their own visions and entertain their way. Expecting games immediately after a console’s launch is silly, and comparing it to consoles that don’t exist yet is even sillier.
Wait a year or two, see how everything plays out, and then we can make a proper verdict.
But they are competing, whether they like it or not. They have to woo consumers away from buying and supporting their iPads/iPhones, PS3s/360s and soon, their PS4s and XB1s. Both Nintendo’s consoles and that of their rivals, primarily play video games. So yes, they are all in competition for consumer interest and support.
Reggie needs to stop saying consumer so much, it makes him sound like a jerk.
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GDDR5 NOT SUITED TO CPU s I think you can easily find that out online
Sony lead design guy ADMITTED ps4 didnt have edram or fast ram because sony couldnt afford it
Wiiu uses high bandwith fast edram xbone uses 6t sram esram
Sony didnt THAY HAD TO GO GDDR5 OR LOOSR OUT ON BANDWIDTH THE CATCH BEING GDDR5 CAN NEVER MATCH SPEED AND EFFECTIVNESS OF EDRAM
So ps4 used OFF THE SHELF SHIT
Vs
Wiius CUSTOM WELL DESIGNED HARDWARE
Gflops dont meen shit. With slow ass 200ns ram
I think Uncle Reggie has pointed things up, but I think the title is kind of misleading?
Good point. That’s why I haven’t lost faith. The system just needs games that take advantage of what the system is capable of innovative-wise
PS2: Underpowered, great games
Vita: Fantastic piece of machinery, has jack shit for games. Ports don’t count.
As long as it is good who cares.
But there are no good games. Nintendo should bring back Star Tropics and Earthbound.
i dont get this, nintendo keeps trying to defend why wii u is underpowered, yes they sold a truck load of wiis and games but the top 10 games 7-8 were nintendo made, i love nintendo but they have lost touch with gamers not saying they have to be like ps4 or xbox one but what they are doing isnt working
What’s EDRAM and GDDRAM?
You kidding right !!!
Gddr5 is the latest generic ram used on pc graphics cards its the highest bandwidth BUT THE SLOWEST COMUNICATOR the slow speed is a serious issue in comparason to wiius edram and xbobes esram
Ddr3 gddr3 is a more traditional dram for both cpus and gpus its much cleaner faster than GDDR5 BUT LESS BANDWIDTH
Wiuu has the fastest memory set up it has gddr3 with customized pre fetch and a fast ram sub memory on gpu of 32mb edram 2 mb edram and 1 mb sram all embedded to gpu
Wiius mcm is also low latency design
Ps4 cannot read to gpu from gddr5 its cpu bound and has to re root via a by pass combine that with Rediculous latency 200ns
Its clear ps4 is vastly less effective than wiiu
So what are you getting at? Does that mean that the Wiiu is going to get better games then the PS4? Because if not then you can rant about how much more efficient the Wiiu runs but it’s not going to compete unless Nintendo lowers the price and start paying to get some 3rd party exclusives.
He’s not getting at anything, he’s singing his tired tune about GDDR5 having more latency (which isn’t good for a CPU) and parading around about it as if a hardware focused company like Sony is clueless about transmissions and doesn’t know a workaround for that or a special way in which data can transmit. But apparently he has difficulty processing that in his Nintendo corroded brain.
He lives in this bizarro land where he thinks the Wii U will outperform the next-gen consoles in any aspect, lol. Or where Mario Kart 8 according to him was the most impressive looking game on the E3 show floor.
Do yourself a big favor and skip over all of his bullshit and alt accounts, he’s a laughing stock on every single forum he visits. :)
WHAT AM SAYING IS FACT
Heres the fact YOU CANNOT PROCESS DATA THAT ISNT THERE
Example WIIU DATA IS IN CATCH IT GETS THERE FAST IN CATCH UT THEN READS INTO AND OUT OF THE PROCESSOR ALL ON CHIP VERY VERY FAST MULTIPUL TIMES PER FRAME
Were as ps4 is reading from slow main ram allbthe way thru the system to the gpu back out again All the way back to main ram AND REPEAT
Same applys cpu gddr5 has poor cpu performance
Were ps4 is wasting clocks and bandwidth and ram WIIU IS USING IT NOT TRASHING CLOCKS
Presto wiiu and ps4 are both NEXT GEN POWER but wiiu is doing it with tiny power draw tiny heat a smaller box and a more refined hardware
Ps4 is trying to BRUTE FORCE IT
THATS WHAT AM SAYING
Say wiiu is 550mhz gpu its being used FAST and EFFICENT
Ps4 has a 800mhz gpu BUT ITS WASTING CLOCKS WAITING FOR DATS FROM MR SLOW RAM TWIDDLING ITS THUMBS
Get it
it wouldn’t be fair to sonysoft if nintendo had equal help that’s all they have
So the Wii U’s CPU and GPU have a way better relationship with each other and PS4’s CPU and GPU just says, “What’s up” around Christmas and Easter.
There is a significant difference though. During the PS2’s era, it was current gen tech. And regarding the Wii, it sold so well because it wasn’t a games console, it was a pop culture phenomenon. It was also something very new and was very cheap. WiiU on the other hand is old technology and doesn’t offer anything like the phenomenon that was the Wii. They have to accept the reality, that WiiU is not going to be a success like the PS2 and Wii, or even the 360 and PS3. This is why I believe that Nintendo needs a fresh approach to WiiU. It needs to grow up, because children don’t want Nintendo products anymore, they want iPhones/iPads. So Nintendo has to start targeting the older gamer now and stop faffing about with demographics that aren’t interested anymore.
You hit the nail man.
Reggie for god sake wake up!
I need to point this out, ’cause nobody seems to think about the following. During the early 00’s the DVD were introduced, but like so much other tech, it’s costly at first, there’s hardly any competition between companies, and PS2 had a very direct advantage to the Dreamcast and GameCube in that manner.
The DVD format was a huge leap from VHS, and unlike blu-ray, it didn’t really require a new TV to truly see the difference, so while it was costly, people saw the added DVD player in the PS2 as a bonus, and a good one at that! This is one of the very sole reasons people stuck to the PS brand, or left Nintendo.
Besides that PS1 had won over people with it’s design. GameCube looked like a toy, and however good the controller was (one of the best in my opinion – if not THE best), it’s no secret that the older crowd preferred a more sharp design.
And then there’s one more thing… The PS2 came out 2 years earlier than the GameCube – with such a huge gap, people saw no reason to invest in a GameCube, when they already had a solid library of PS2 games. I mean 2 years for god sake! Had the Wii U come out in November 2012, like it did, but with a decent flow of games, maybe it could’ve actually had some potential to stay with the competetion, but with the complete drought in games, it’s become clear that they prefer staying in their own course, which i admire, but Lego City doesn’t interrest me, i’m sure it’s a good game, but it does’t interrest me, so i don’t buy it, simple as that – what then? Need for Speed, Amazing Spider-Man? Ports of games, that i can get cheaper on the PC, heck even the other consoles?
Nintendo admits to the fact, that they lack 3rd party games, they don’t evade the questions like they once did, but now they make use of arguments, without even thinking of the simple facts as to why people bought the PS2 and not the more powerful GameCube.
More valid points. I admire Reggie’s blind determination, after all, it’s his job to praise Nintendo as he’s (trying) to sell it’s product. But deep down, I think he knows full well, that Nintendo of Japan are driving down the motorway in the wrong direction. They have made ALL the wrong moves. They have done NOTHING right with WiiU. From the moment it was announced, people were iffy about it, and now sales are reflecting Nintendo’s inability to innovate and capture the interest of gamers and non-gamers anymore.
They say it’s all about the games… what games?! Most of them are sub par ports, Nintendo’s own existing and upcoming titles are unoriginal and are struggling to interest anyone outside of Nintendo’s fan base. The one drawing the main attention is “X” and that probably won’t be out, at the earliest, until sometime at the end of 2014.
I just don’t know what they are thinking at the moment. This is no way to run a business and it’s definitely not a way to survive in the modern gaming era.
The “Sub par ports” thing you’re toting is false.
There’s a few great ports, and a lot of bad ports that were not developed right.
You cannot, CANNOT!, put blame on Nintendo for EA making the fucked-up decision to release ME3 when THERE WAS A COLLECTION COMING OUT THEY COULD HAVE RELEASE INSTEAD ALONGSIDE SOME OF THE DLC.
Similarly, Sniper Elite V2 TOTES GRAPHICS AS ITS DAMNED SELLING POINT when they made the foolish move of LEAVING OUT MULTIPLAYER AND ALL OF THE DLC.
Similarly, you’re incorrect in saying that “X” is the only main draw.
You’re showing an amount of blind bias so immense that I can only assume you hate the system with a purple passion and are DIGGING for any reason, however small and weak, to try and put it down.
If you want a legitimate reason to put it down, BASH THE WEAK ADVERTISEMENT CAMPAIGN.
THAT is a legitimate complain.
Not the things you’ve tried claiming thus far.
I didn’t blame Nintendo for ME3. Where the hell did you get that from? As for every other point I made, sorry, but they are all accurate. Just saying “but but but, you’re wrong!” and stamping your feet doesn’t change that fact. Deal with it. Wake up, as I did, and accept that Nintendo have completely screwed up, in every area, this time around. Defending a mistake doesn’t make it any less so.
Accurate only from a biased standpoint.
Deal with that before you tell others to deal with their own nonexistent problems.
What bias? The is no bias TOO deal with. And all of the problems I highlighted are very much existent. I own a Wii U and several games. I have also owned every previous Nintendo console and a considerable number of games. My opinions come from logical observations and experience. The are in no way affected by some misplaced loyalty or hatred.
If anything, loyalty and positive bias are one of the main causes of all of this. Nintendo fans spent so much time and money lapping up whatever Nintendo say and do, that they essentially became yes men; telling Nintendo, via their wallets, that everything is just fine, there is no need to innovate, be creative and take risks.
The best thing for companies like Nintendo is a shock reality check. That things aren’t “just fine”, stop being hopeful and assuming everything will work out in the end, and make some big, positive changes to ensure the continued growth and success of their business.
lol right, it comes down to the games…. but Wii U has a huge lack of a big pool of great games yet. perhaps 2014… but Nintendo thinks, the success of the Wii can be repeated with Wii U so easily, and I don’t think so. There are less games, less advertisements, less potential customers, because the families and casuals have their Wii and think they do not need anything new.
The Wii U better gets a price cut when PS4 and Xbox One come out, and have some surprises for 2013 (not “stay tuned” or “2014”!!)…
As a huge fan of Nintendo franchises since 1994 I own every nintendo console so far… except the Wii U, because there are not enough great nintendo-franchise games yet.
for gods sake, all this trolling, fighting,spaming and flaming for what, all these xbox and playstation trolls just cant accept that in these “console wars” Nintendo is the Veteran, and those who say “Oh Nintendo should quit, Nintendo should just admit they are a fuckup” go take your opinions and shove them where they are accepted like in your own asses, the Wii U is still in a larval stage, you cant just go to a pre schooler and say “yep this ones going to be a dropout, drug addicted human guinea pig you should just kill him now” you must give the Wii U a chance and in 3 years if its still suffering then you trolls are right, congradulations on this victory on an unofficial, Nintendo fanmade forum, you should be proud of yourselves, also please don’t reply on this post with a stupid statement, but if you do that just proves how right I am, ponder on that…
It’s been 8 months. Momentum and interest still haven’t picked up. And yes, even though the console is in it’s “larval stage”, the HD and online era are not. Nintendo had six years to prepare for and understand the technology. They should have been ready to go on launch day. Unfortunately, they weren’t and this has caused a ripple effect of problems. The main one being that they didn’t have a list of innovative, unique and NEW sets of games ready to go, and encourage mass initial buying of the console. This would have created the necessary install base to keep third parties interested, which in turn would have led to more games and then more gamers. Maybe things can pick up again this Christmas, but based on the reactions at this years E3, none of the upcoming first party games have stirred up enough interest (from non-WiiU owners) due to their lack of originality.
It’s true that good games can drive a console that isn’t super high powered. The Wii had some fantastic games, especially from Nintendo themselves. The PS2 had a ton of great games, which is why I’m sad I didn’t get the chance to own that console until recently. With the Wii U the console itself is fantastic, the community they created for the console is fun and active, they could work a bit more on some of the features, but the potential is there. The graphics looks great, sure they may not be next gen, but honestly the next gen consoles are just too realistic, I don’t really care either way. Nintendo just doesn’t seem to like competing with the other two, but they really should. And the fact still remains, people think the Wii U is just a game pad. I was talking to my senior rep last night at work and she actually thought it was compatible with Wii. So it’s really like that, they should’ve just dropped the Wii name and made it something new altogether.
It would be a good point but the examples he brought up didn’t make sense. The PS2 had a HUGE third party following compared to the GC (games sell systems, right Reggie?) and the Wii was a short lived success in an age without angry birds. You’re back to your core audience now and the casual excuse won’t fly. I have a Wii U since launch, it’s been collecting dust ever since I beat Monster Hunter.
As much as I luv Nintendo, my WiiU has no games…
:(
Play Trine 2 on your Wii U. It will hold u until Pikmin 3. Online is even better
Until the Wii U has either a new Star Fox game or GOOD Metroid game (Other M was merely meh), I will not consider buying it.
No, not even a new Super Smash Bros. game will convince me. Once Project M is completely finished that will perfect Brawl and eliminate the need for another game.
Unless they include Krystal in the lineup. In my opinion, she’s the best melee/long-range fighter character out there, what with her staff that fires magic.
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I think we can all agree that despite the lack of third party support and even first party games releases, it is a pretty impressive piece of technology, I mean Nintendo have been around for over 30 years, you can’t be mad at them if they made one, two or even ten mistakes, they always find a way to resolve their issues, despite Nintendo region locking their consoles, releases taking a lifetime, and maybe even one game that was a screwup, I will always support them and I will always have a Nintendo console in my home
I understand what reggi is saying, but clearly its a different place in time, i think people want and crave more, look at cell fone industry, lots will get locked in a contract to get the lastest n best high priced phones, better specs more often bring people in, what i would or my kids would allow years ago as far as visuals n games are different from now because tech has shown awesome visuals in games people find it hard to settle for less, unless your under 8 than i could see a kid just wants to play any thang they can but even the young have an expectations if they can play a game that actually looks like one of the movies Dave watch for you know its graphically close to a feature film they ‘d fallin just like everybody else would you know that they would also be mesmerized by the graphics or the visuals of a machine, so power matters it doesn’t matter about what happened six and seven and 10 years ago verses overpowered vs underpowered it’s a different time a different place
Pachter: Nintendo is in a world of trouble.
http://www.news10.net/entertainment/gameguys/article/249450/241/Pachter-Nintendo-is-in-a-world-of-trouble
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