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The Untold Story Of The Goomba

Did you know that the Goomba wasn’t always set to appear in the original Super Mario Bros.? Originally the Koopa Troopa was supposed to be the first enemy players were set to encounter in the landmark title, but testers felt that they were too complicated. So, a simpler enemy was created: the Goomba. What do you think about the Goomba’s contribution to the Mario series? Was Koopa Troopa too complicated of an enemy to face off against? Let us know your thoughts.

Thanks Ian for the tip.

117 thoughts on “The Untold Story Of The Goomba”

    1. Yes, but I have some trouble with the reason behind the Goomba being the way it was cause the cartridge couldn’t fit more characters. Basically for one, the Super Mario Bros. game which was an Arcade (on JAMMA board or something like that) game first didn’t have those size constraints. It even included levels that were not on the NES version between level 6 and 8. Also, you could add more ram to a cartridge which was only 512k at the time, but probably wouldn’t have cause of the cost. But either way something doesn’t seems off here.

    1. I remember I hadn’t played Super Mario Bros. in years when I bougt NSMBU for Wii U. I still can’t come over the fact that I died at the first goomba xD

          1. Sony tossed that number out before launch based off of the 10,000 prereleased systems. It was largely marketing speak and not likely based off of actual numbers. They were just trying to get people to keep their preorders rather than abandon ship.

              1. You guys don’t know what your talking about. This is why you can’t listen to Nintendo fanboys, they always give false information to anything that’s NOT Nintendo. It wasn’t 33% it was lower.

                #idiots

                1. Amazon’s has over a third of their customer verified reviews showing a high failure rate. If you take into account the fact the fan boys had to start a campaign where unverified buyers post positive reviews in order to get the numbers up, the number looks even worse. Face it, something is wrong with the PS4 and Sony not only does not have a clue what to do about it, but seem to be in denial about the problem’s mere existence.

                  1. I’m aware about the amazon defects And I don’t deny that SOME not all ps4’s have problems but that doesn’t count as 33% of the 1mil buyers. All im saying is you Guys are exaggerating the percentages just because you want to make the ps4 look bad.

                    1. I never said all. But based on the failure rate exhibited on Amazon, the number likely VASTLY exceeds what the garbage Sony is trying to feed. And this is just the first week. Just wait until it starts displaying Red Ring like behavior due to the poor ventilation. Considering they don’t even know what is causing the Blue Light of Doom, and the Blinking Red Light of Fail is due to overheating, we probably will be seeing even more failure down the road.

                    2. Right the failures won’t be significant enough, all consoles have problems at launch. The bottom line is the numbers were exaggerated, the problems will be fixed and the ps4 will be #1 this GEN there’s no arguing that. Sales show it, statistics show it. Watch during the holidays too

                    3. Talking smack on the internet sigh when will people grow up btw super mario 3dworld is selling like hot cakes 18 best selling in all video games accessories consoles etc combined here we go just like the 3ds

                  1. wow what a dumb ass. I’m not a Sony fanboy and im not a NINTENDO hater, I own a 3ds, Wii, gamcube. I enjoy Nintendo games. Its just i don’t like the Wii U for many reasons. Also you don’t have to listen im only saying what’s true if you look it up the percentages above are inaccurate

                    1. Where is this 33% coming from? I believe its more than .4% but I don’t feel comfortable at giving a percentage without some back up.

                    2. @ignoring man its coming from amzon percentages like lest say out of 100% of people who bought a ps4 from amazon, 33% of the ps4’s that shipped out were defective but that isn’t the case for ALL 1million ps4s that were bought

                2. Thats the real definition of damage control. They make up false statemens in hopes that their shitty underpowered console with trash games and censored for kids sells better and they wont have to play online by themselves lol

                  1. LOL so true and that’s what I was saying . Fag nintensheep. Have to make up stories because their console blows. they’re just hating that ps4 BLEW Wii U launch sales into the ocean AND that ps4 is going to catch up to Wii U total sales by the holidays or the beginning of next year.

    1. something tells me ur gonna get banned on miiverse for trolling people saying that wiiu sucks how it has no games but wait admins don’t give a fuck… trolls are good but wen it comes to getting in people’s faces saying that game or company sucks & make a big deal about it they are just fucking assholes so you can go fucking die in hole you dickweed & leave wii u & its fan the fuck alone!!!!!!!!!

        1. The funniest part is that console failure is standard at this point for all consoles…whats the point in focusing on the PS4 and call it ‘a bugged out piece of crap’ when the truth is the PS3, XB360 and even the original Wii ALL had their own problems in the first waves produced…everyone arguing this point and slamming the PS4 seem to be in their OWN stages of denial about the way things have been before in prior gens since the PS2’s initial waves ‘had problems’ of their own.

          This is clearly the most ridiculous debate to be having so early in the life of any new console…give it all a year and THEN start throwing tantrums about it!

    1. Honestly, the PS4 is a shitstain of a system that functions like a less than mediocre PC with awful exclusives. There is absolutely no reason to buy it until middle of next year. It was rushed to make the holiday season, hence its good exclusives weren’t done yet.

      1. Lol then the Wii U must be an even bigger piece of shit. Rushed, underpowered, no type of exclusives. There’s no reason to buy a Wii U till…. Well at all

          1. hahaa Gay and corny what a mix. You have nothing to say so you resort to childish and bad jokes because you know it’s true. The Wii U is a fail console and is doomed. No one wants it. Its an underpowered piece of shit lmao. ps4 is going to devour Wii U during the holidays along with xbone and 3ds. Ouch!!

        1. true. id have said maybe smash would be the only reason anybody would buy a wii u, but since its also coming to 3ds and both have the same characters and stages…whats the point? unless you want gimped games with shitty graphics and frame issues

          1. Yea 3ds version has same characters (not stages) but that alone makes it a better value then the Wii U verison. Nintendo just fucked up to hard. Lol just wait till the holidays its going to be 3ds, ps4, bone being bought gaming nothing else.

              1. no its not true both you just hating on nintendo becus you got nothing better to do. trust in nintendo, they will pull through. just look at wii party u everyone talk bad about it yet it sold good in japan and it increase more wii u sells

                shut up trolls!

        2. no type of exclusives? half the games Nintendo sales are exclusive. think of mario games, ipkmin, Zelda, SSB, wonderful 101 etc.

      1. Lol fanboys. Ps4 is already catching up to Wii U’s lifetime sales by the end of the year or around the beginning it will have already outsold the Wii U in total sales. Lmao ouch that’s gotta hurt and that soon means R.I.P Wii U

        1. at least our system will be working, not giving the Blue Pulse of Death, that’s right it already got a name ;D R.I.P Day One PS4 literaly

            1. So people want a PS4 over a Wii U because they advertised it the right way. 3D Mario should have been advertised like the trailers. That kind of advertising limits buyers to buying more Wii Us. I look at it this way Sony must have did one hell of a job in marketing. Regardless of what percentage of bricked systems and what little games it has, people still want it. Why isn’t the same results with Wii U? If power means nothing why is PS4 already at 1 million and Wii U isn’t. Maybe they should kill the Wii U and make a more powerful console. As a Nintendo fan no matter how you loom at trying to down PS4 its really no way in getting around the fact PS4 could catch up to Wii u and weeks.

              1. 100% true and that’s what I have been saying. They don’t advertise correctly, their system is underpowered, they lack online 1st parties. All those plus more just make people pist off and make them NOT want a Wii U. It doesn’t offer what today’s generation wants. Power is a big part of this Gen, people want a system that’s strong, a company that’s going to listen and a company that’s going to deliver and Sony is that company for people. Everyone’s talking about ps4, bone while almost no one mentions Wii U.

                1. So that’s why the system is being rushed and bricked? If you ask me, they are following the steps of Nintendo’s wii u launch failure. By the way, why the fuck should people even care how powerful it is? Specs? HA, bigger fools than I should count. Spec is for the designers and programmers, Graphic? Yeah, they just make it look good, nothing else there…gameplay should be your only worry of how a game should be none of that other shit or how powerful it can be. Face it, they are just following the Wii U’s “doom” and “R.I.P sony” bullshit.

          1. Yeah but those bricked consoles are being replaced. And not one bricked owner said, “I want my money back for a Wii U” So a bricked PS4 will not help Wii U sales simply because of the knowledge PS4 shows maturity, power and advertising that Nintendo fans wished Wii U was advertised like that.

            1. Wow im impressed mr ignoring man, you aren’t being delusional this time and seeing things for what they are. But yea what you just said is true

              1. I like the Wii u a lot but something ain’t right if a more expensive console is catching up to it and you had to lower your price. Even Nintendo Commander doesn’t own a Wii U and they lowered the price. By the time Super Smash arrives, would he get it on 3DS or Wii U?

                1. If the Wii U was really a must have for Nintendo Commander he would have had it by now. No offense but it is what it is. I mean like me he is on the internet everyday. He must be paying his internet providers at least $19.99 a month. So he has some kind of income to buy a Wii U nearly 365 days later.

                    1. Yea exactly even some non delusional fanboys don’t want a Wii U because it’s just not appealing

                2. Nintendo is aware that they may have to discontinue it if they don’t pull out of the holiday with a HUGE sales jump which is why they are playing it safe and not giving the Wii U any type of news but at the same time that hurts them. Also doesn’t own a Wii U because he know it sucks, 3ds is a better buy then Wii U since it has all the Nintendo games that people want.

                  1. If PS4 reaches 4 million before 2014 it just proved you don’t need software to sell hardware. It has no software.

                    1. It has software but the real software hasn’t come yet. Still tho the power of the system alone makes people want it

            2. “Maturity” my ass.
              You’re in here for the sake of trolling people who like what you don’t like.
              If that’s the kind of “mature” fanbase that’s representing Sony, then you’re all worse than the whining pussies on CoD, and can’t even come close to being better than the Nintendo fanbase you all so obviously despise.
              Grow the fuck up.

              1. im with eric all signs point to troll
                1. on a nintendo site hating on nintendo
                2. provides troll bait articles
                3.has calls people sheep or drones or fags
                yea not a troll…….-__-

                  1. Lol not even close, you are just mad i exposed your gay fedish for Nintendo commander you are the main dick rider on this site, always following Nintendo commander, don’t even know when to hop off lmao

  1. I had this thing for the longest time, that the first time I would play ANY Mario game, no matter how hard I thought, “this time will be different” I always died, or got hit by, the first goomba I saw. That stopped only a couple years ago with Galaxy 2

  2. It makes sense, the primary antagonist is a turtle, it would follow that his minions would be as well. Goombas are the odd one out. Still, the game would be wildly different without them.

  3. Goombas are enemies that you don’t really think about too often. You see them, and you immediately try to stomp them. But they’ve played a big role in Mario games and are instantly recognizable by tons of people. Even non-gamers. So, hats off to all Goombas! Well, except the annoying Goombas with wings. Fuck those guys. Haha.

    1. yeah but the best partner to have if you know how to use them…Goombario and Goombella is a perfect example. I still use those two when playing paper Mario series of one and two, POWER UP CHARGE ATTACK MULTIBONK (attack increased by 2….attack increased by 2 more…and so on, at the end if done right, power is up by 25 points…use multi and you got one hell of a deadly damage and goes down by one every hit…99 heart powered enemies don’t stand a chance if you use stone cap to your advantage.

      1. wow that is fascinating, really. I’m really glad you told me all of that. I guess the goombas are as worthless as I thought.

  4. why are people assuming the wii u will fail cus ps4 sales? does anybody remember dreamcast and how that had a good launch and came crashing down?

    #omg im so sick of trolls

      1. I had that feeling too! ever since i first discovered this site. i still havent shaked the feeling off. That’s why I get bored of coming here sometimes, because i feel like im arguing with the same 3, 5 ( 10 tops) persons

  5. I’m not trolling I’m going by what I see, read and hear. Post me a blog where a bricked PS4 owner got his/her money back for a Wii U? Can you find that. Because like a lot of Nintendo fans I was also mocking the brick station but when I saw people perfered to either wait weeks for another PS4 or was getting an Xbox One not once have I heard a a traded brickex PS4 over a Wii U.

    1. I love my Wii U and I want 3D Mario World to make Wii U outsell PS4 and maintain momentum. The hardware is good to me. And I plan on getting 3D Mario World. And a Star Fox and Zelda U. Those tittles will help. But I want Wii U to mantain sales not drop off 2 or 3 weeks later. Look at 3DS Pokemon has been in the top 10 for a month. 3DS sales has been unstoppable since gas prices were $2.45 a gallon. When will it be Wii U’s turn because its 3rd party tittles only work for 1 week.

      1. dude what about people who arent even interestid in buying a brickstation4? do they count? i will keep my wii u i aint even want a spybox or brickstation at.all i have faith nintendo will pull through which is more then i can say for other so called fans

    2. its really hard to belive your not a troll cus you proven you a dangerus bipolar maniac. every time i read one of your comments you say dumbtendo then later you like them then later dumbtendo is shit. omgwtf?

        1. I’m trolling? OK but its a fact Nintendo commander is as big as a fan boy to Nintendo like you and me but never bought a Wii U. So 8 months later if Smash Bros arrive why would he buy a Wii U version when he doesn’t have to? That was one big ass tittle Wii U needed as an exclusive.

          1. Also Wii U didn’t have as many bricks and PS4 wasn’t out yet so if wasn’t nothing to trade the Wii U for. Yet bricked PS4 owners have three choices, get another PS4, Bone or Wii U. So far I have yet to see any Bricked PS4 owners trade for a Wii U. But that’s trolling.

  6. A life, a job, a significant other that doesn’t require inflation or batteries, when you have all 3 then you may return and teal at eachother all day about something that really doesn’t mean a thing in the real world, you aren’t gamers, you are addicts and zealots all sides of it

  7. It’s interesting how all of you haters assume that the sales of the PS4 means that the WiiU is doomed. The PS1 sold 3 times the N64, and the PS2 sold 6 times the GCN, but I don’t remember those 2 consoles being total failures.

    1. yes you are right. During those 2 gens Nintendo was making really high profits despite low hardware sales. While the PS1 and 2 was making Sony next to no profit. (because of so many price cuts)

      1. how the heck were ps1 and ps2 not making sony any profit when sony reported a great increase in profit as result of both systems selling high amounts? and their playstation division is were most of their profit stems from.

        1. The gaming division makes the most money but Sony has a whole lose more than that and the ps3 was a monetary failure their is no denying it. Is ps4 has o sell more than the wii and twice has many games has the 360 or is goodbye Sony.

  8. ooh dem fighting words

    I don’t get people who claim to like Nintendo, yet don’t miss a single opportunity to bash on them and fight on every negative article written, even though there’s not enough evidence to prove anything most of the time and they’re merely just suppositons.

  9. Wow. That escalated quickly. I really enjoy discussing the growth of the industry and making projections, but not in such a hostile way such as what’s being displayed in other comments. As far as “Nintendo failing” if you want to see my thoughts on that I’ll need you to take the time to read this: http://berathen.com/2013/10/should-nintendo-become-third-party.html

    Getting back on track I’ve always loved the design of the Goomba. Sure it’s really simple, but it’s very cute and iconic. I love how determined Goombas are despite their decades of non-success. Goombario was easily my favorite character in Paper Mario.

  10. Despite the cheesiness of Nintendo commercials and the fact that it was adverting a console that is doing FINE, the ONLY way for Nintendo to make sales is to the parents and pre-pubescent children. The PS4 and XBO has the pubescent and adult audience this year. Next year is the year to be the secondary console for the a lot of the richer PS4 gamers with Smash Bros, Bayo2, “X” and Zelda U next year.

    Still Nintendo you have to let people know that the Wii U is not just an overpriced peripheral, you have to advertise that it exists!!! Sure sell it to parents for their kids along with a fitness machine for them with Donkey Kong, Mario and Wii Fit U this year, but advertise it!!! Here in the UK I have seen Zero adverts for the machine since launch one year ago!

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