It appears as though technology firm Philips has filed a complaint against Nintendo. The firm says that Nintendo has infringed on two Philips patents in the United States. Philips says that one of the patents has been infringed by Nintendo and that the company is aware of this but has failed to act. One of the patents states that the technology can be used for games and the second patent mentions a wireless device that can be controlled via a secondary device through motion input. Philips is apparently asking for compensation of up to three times the damages.
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pretty poor try philips.
you don’t even know what this is about or whether it’s justified or not
You’re right. I guess you can blame the numerous patent trolls for the assumption that any patent suit is bullshit.
But this is bullshit, their patents are vague as shit, what’s exactly different about that from the Wii? Or the PS3? Or the PS4? Or the XBOX 360? Or the XBOX One? Or any remote control-operated device like television sets and stereo systems?
All these devices can be used for games, and all of them have wireless accessories that can input things through motion.
I hope this blows in their face and the fucking gummint finally shuts them down for attempting to abuse law.
for fucks sake this is a rough description of what their patent is about
if you want to read it in detail look up the fucking patent they’re public for a reason
http://goo.gl/Q0mBGV
It’s clearly unjustified. Where is Sony & Microsoft at in this lawsuit? This is just Philips trying to seem relevant in the video game industry again. Hell! They weren’t even relevant in the video game industry for very long back when the CD-i released in the 90s.
“It’s clearly unjustified.”
oh thank.. what do we need courts for when we have you to determine such a thing so easily and haphazardly
You sound almost like you’re defending this company. If they truly have such a claim & can win, why aren’t they trying to seriously sue Sony & Microsoft? They are also using motion control & second screen controllers. It’s not like Nintendo is the only one doing it. So yes! Clearly unjustified!
i’m not doing anything however you are accusing them of patent fraud without the slightest hint of evidence
you merely assume shit until your world is back in order again it seems to me
read the fucking patent it’s a bit more complicated than “they’re using motion controls so we’ll sue them all”
They sure did pick a very convenient time to sue Nintendo now, so yes. I am assuming because this seems very fishy to me. It shouldn’t have taken them over 5 years to finally sue them. Not to mention the many others that have claimed patent infringement, so I have every right to be suspicious of yet another one. And I don’t feel like reading something with a bunch of technical jargon that I wouldn’t really be able to understand anyway because I’m not a technician. Now if Philips actually wins or Nintendo closes this case outside of court, then I’ll assume that Nintendo probably did infringe on them. Til then, I will let the courts decide this.
It’s still vague as fuck though
“Aparatus to control the movement of a virtual body”
Again how is this really any different than the original wii remote? Or Kinnect or Move? If the patent had something like “Device using a gyroscope to relay a sense of motion to virtual objects or bodies” that would make more sense and I could see that infringing on Philips. But that? That’s the most vague thing I have seen. So will Phillips go after the Hydra as well?
Nintendo will go beast mode on Phillips. Lol.
Well, Philips completely violeted the Zelda series back in the 90’s, so boo-fucking-hoo.
Just another company in trouble trying to get easy money. Philips should be ashamed
yeah, let’s sue them for that!
Yeah uh…good luck with that.
well, good luck Phillips.
Soon the Procter and Gamble Alliance will sue our empire because they think Goombas and Toads wears pampers…
Fuck u queermo.
You’d love it if he’d fuck you, huh? Tough shit because I highly doubt he’ll want to touch a monkey such as you even with a ten foot pole. xD
“One of the patents states that the technology can be used for games”
Hm…..
So the Wii Mote then?
“Second patent mentions a wireless device that can be controlled via a secondary device through motion input. ”
“user interaction system [comprising of] a portable pointing device connected to a camera and sending pictures to a digital signal processor, capable of recognizing an object and a command given by the user by moving the pointing device in a specific way, and controlling an electrical apparatus on the basis of this recognition”.
Source:http://www.videogamer.com/news/philips_suing_nintendo_over_alleged_wii_u_patent_infringement.html
Ooooh. The Wii Mote then.
So….your going to sue Sony then too for the Move? *rolls eyes* The Wii came out in the U.S in 2006. According to the source I linked:
“Philips acknowledges that Nintendo has produced motion-controlled hardware since the beginning of the Wii generation, but claims it notified Nintendo of both patents back in November and December 2011.”
So they waited for it to be successful before making a move and it’s just now seeing the daylight in 2014. Meaning they initially waited 5 years before saying anything to Nintendo supposedly and then 3 years to get their legal team prepared in order to sue?
Sounds like another patent troll if you ask me.
Well considering the guys who invented this stuff way back before the Wii was put out, (http://www.gyration.com/pages/gyration-technology) and worked with Nintendo to make it work for games. I am not sure what Phillips is trying to accomplish with this since its pretty clear they don’t own the patent. I met the guys at a Tradeshow very early in the Wii days, its funny how much of the industry was against using motion controls in any sort of way.
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Dem patent trolls
Aw, someone’s mad that Wand of Gamelon sold like @$$.
The patent in particular is similar to, but entirely different from the Wii Mote. The pointing device (their words), uses a camera to trace it’s movements (not unlike the Kinect or Playstation Eye), mapping force-fed images into a device that can be used for pointing, maybe used for games in the future.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Wii does not use camera based technology, it uses inbuilt processes in the controller that is picked up by infa-red technology.
I don’t think Phillips have much to go on here, as myself (not a lawyer) can deduce that their patent is different from the Wii Mote.
Because of Nintendo as the biggest gaming giant than the two companies… Anyways, I agree. There’s so much hardware that also uses the same technologies but why only Nintendo is the only one who was sued?
But then, I Philips had that patented even before the Wii or the Wii U was released, then why they should wait until the system got released on the public?
Rosetta Stone (english)
Philips sucks! They’re one of the cheapest, crappiest electronics companies around.
ya…N64 says hello you fucking moron funny how nintendoextremists run the gun wehen shit is going down…hell who cares if nintendo gets Sued.
The gaming community, if Nintendo falls, there goes your playstation and xbox.
You amuse me. Well with sasori gone right now, I guess you’re the new guy to be our comic relief.
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That is what gets me! It sounds to me he should be suing all the game companies then but it just seems to me after the Wii success everyone wants to take nintendo down.
Another fail company… Good bye Philips you’re outdated.
I smack my head 3 times on this news stop trying to sue Nintendo everyone god.. so annoying I smack my head cause I heard sueing Nintendo a lot of times damn it
i read the patent was produce in 2009 which is 3 years after the wii come out. If that’s correct then it will be a pointless claim. But US culture for you. No offence but that fact.
patent claims don’t become irrelevant just because you don’t sue immediately
Yeah????? but but my point is if the patent was registered in 2009 but the product was out in 2006, the patent should not be valid and the legal action is useless if not a waste of time and money.
nowhere does it say that it was registered in 2009 i don’t even know how you got that idea
it was registered in 1996
http://goo.gl/Q0mBGV
The funny thing is, they only choose to sue them when the Wii U is finally going to be picking up steam. Just another worthless company trying to cash in on someone else’s success even if they do have some chance in hell of winning.
Funny thing is Philips is actually a dutch company.
And… Your point? So far I know the division (can’t find better word) which sue Nintendo is base in US where US employees work there and therefore have a US mentally. I don’t know if u work for company which has several offices in the world but believe me when I say that Philips Netherlands is different than philips US. Same goes for every companies which has several offices around the world.
Way to stereotype, Asshole.
dickhead… nah proper blighty one… cunt…oh me too I can insult you if you want. and if you start to insult me is deep down you know damn I am damn right and don’t have any comeback on that one except insults. Do us a favour ignore this comment.
First of all, your stereotype of all people is the US just proves your ignorance and how quick to judge you are. Makes me believe youre pretty quick to blow your load when with a woman too juat because you fit the stereotype (if ever the chance should happen that you actually meet a woman willing to accommodate your small and insignificant genitalia).
Secondly, you have nothing to go by to insult me on other than your butt-hurt for me calling you out for being an asshole. Don’t like it? Tough shit. Don’t entertain the idea that you and your internet tough guy bullshit intimidates me. There are a billion other little assholes just like you far more deserving of my attention. So why don’t you be a good little girl and go play hide and go fuck yourself.
My apologies to sickr for polluting the comment section. I just felt the need to take out the trash.
Lol wow how hypocritical typical yank (just wind you up).read your comments both of them and tell me who is quick to judge… Unbelievable….
Hypocritical? I never said i wasnt quick to call someone an asshole for being so. If youre being a douchebag youre damn right im gonna call you on it. I didnt make an assumption and/or stereotype your entire people as an asshole just because you were. Yeah, there are tons of dip shits here in the states, but the rest of the world too.
Now that thats out of the way, im going to apologize for not offering an intellegent arguement. Problem is im at work and the boss doesnt really like me on my cell too much. Philips … i havent heard too.mich from this company in years. I thing theyre on their deathbed, being overtaken by many other companies. Grasping at straws, right? Im wondering, though, what their parent company/HQ have to do or say about this. Nintendo dont play around in court battles amd if this is just an attention grabbing attempt at a possible quick buck, they are in for a really rude awakening. Philips should know better and put their US offices in check before they end up bleeding tons of cash in a court battle theyll lose.
My question is; Who is in control of Philips US counterpart? When was their design actually patented?
Hypocritical? I never said i wasnt quick to call someone an asshole for being so. If youre being a douchebag youre damn right im gonna call you on it. I didnt make an assumption and/or stereotype your entire people as an asshole just because you were. Yeah, there are tons of dip shits here in the states, but the rest of the world too.
Now that thats out of the way, im going to apologize for not offering an intellegent arguement. Problem is im at work and the boss doesnt really like me on my cell too much. Philips … i havent heard too much from this company in years. I thing theyre on their deathbed, being overtaken by many other companies. Grasping at straws, right? Im wondering, though, what their parent company/HQ have to do or say about this. Nintendo dont play around in court battles amd if this is just an attention grabbing attempt at a possible quick buck, they are in for a really rude awakening. Philips should know better and put their US offices in check before they end up bleeding tons of cash in a court battle theyll lose.
My question is; Who is in control of Philips US counterpart? When was their design actually patented?
where to start… I will give up on the US mentality matter cause at the end of the day it’s a waste of time, I am not here to do politic, but more important it’s irrelevant to the subject.
Phillips is now more semi-conductor and renewable energy focus business and have some sort of partnership with ST microelectronic in some countries. They still selling finish product from what I can see but that’s not their core business any more.
From your comments it appears you don’t have or no experience to work with multi-national companies. Who’s control Philips US? the CCO or CEO of Philips US. I read an article (with an extract of the patent) it was filled in 2009 but can’t find the article now. But Kehool send me a link where it’s stated the design was patented in 1996. In one case the court will be useless in other hand they will have a leg to stand on. Because I can’t find the document I mentioned. I do believe the patent was filled in Holland in 1996 but in 2009 for US but again that’s just a guess. I don’t think Philips US needs to ask for their HQ to sue another company especially since Philips US know more about the US law then Philips Netherlands.
The HQ can intervene but I doubt about it since they will or had expand their legal action in UK, France and Germany. I think Nintendo vs Philips will be like Apple vs Samsung. I guess Nintendo will win in some countries but will loss in some. Philips not being a US company even if they have a presence in US like Nintendo may not win in US like Apple did. Also depend on the patent it may have an expiration date (common period is 5 years time). If what is stated in the article is to be true where Nintendo was aware of the infringement in December 2011, I am sure their lawyers had a look at it. Otherwise they will have negotiate with them and/or would not release the Wii U.
Hmmm…. food for thought. Thanks.
I hate to be that guy but if it is just the US office doing it, the main HQ needs to hurry up & shut their patent sue down before the US office damages the overall company’s image across the globe.
with a corporation like Phillips is difficult. BTW thank you for being intelligent and have a proper discussion without insult even if we disagree on the subject.
You’re welcome. If I have a disagreement with someone, I actually like to defend my opinion, not go all “Fuck you!” and run off like some immature kid/adult. xD
Damn nintendo gets beaten up Wow
still mad about the cdi i guess
Next i Sue Nintendo for No games and Shovelware gimmick toys for lil kiddos LoL #NintendronesExposed
give up dude, you’re never gonna win
You mean #DumbFoolExposed There, fixed it for ya.
How many goddamn motion control patents are out there? And why does the Wii U infringe on every single goddamn one of them?
A patent is supposed to be a SINGLE restriction granted to one person imposed on everyone else. Instead, it feels like a whole bunch of one kind of patent was handed out to a bunch of people all over the world.
Our empire should patent the word “Retarded” and everytime someone sues our empire, we should sue them back along with the ones that allows patents for being retarded…
WiiTards
Yes you are… :D
lol! If only!
I think I might know what Phillips device is supposedly infringing on their own pattents. It is apparantly called the UWand and it is used for their SmartTvs.
Yeah I kinda fucked up in the begining of my comment a little bit but you might get what I’m trying to say.
Not at all xP
It’s just sad to think a company as big as Philips would stoop to this level. I’m never getting anything Philips.
Haha, Nintendo should sue Phillips for the horrible things it did to the Mario and Zelda series back in the 90s.
Nintendo can sue other companies , other companies can’t sue nintendo.- nintendrones.
Breaking News: Phillips sues Mynintendonews for using their Logo as the header of a blog post!
XD Sounds about right.
Why does it seem everyone wants to sue Nintendo nowadays?
Humans always hates those that stand out…
Don’t be afraid though, our empire will rise and destroy the corrupted evil forces, starting with the Electrons…
If I was Nintendo in court, I would walk up to them and say. Remember the CDi? Lemme tell you something, you are the Faces of Evil.
These days there have been many mergers, acquisitions, and patent lawsuits in business.
Lol, when I saw Philips suing Nintendo, the first things I thought of were the CDi games.
XD Who here didn’t have the CD-i games as one of their first thoughts!? Poor Philips. Trying to feel relevant in the video game genre. Poor things.
*video game industry.
Here we fucking go again with this “Sur Nintendo Only” lawsuit crap.
1. Only two patents..which one of them is for games..since when the fuck did Phillips made ANYTHING FOR GAMING?! 2. Motion Input..oh I’m sorry. I didn’t know PSMove and Kinect played by the rules and were never mentioned but Nintendo since they’ve been doing it since last gen with Wii which brings us to this question: If they’re suing Nintendo for motion input, WTF took them so long to realize that Wii was huge and widely known for motion control gaming..7 1/2 YEARS LATER?!
This is just another patent lawsuit trolling to waste Nintendo time to prove again and again that they carefully research patents and demographics before building products and that they respect patents. Just like the DS/DSi/3DS/Wii lawsuits that all horribly tried and failed, Phillips is next in line to look so fucking stupid.
ANYTHING RELEVANT FOR GAMING?!* Fixed. After all, they made that worthless CD-i console that shit all over Nintendo’s Zelda & Mario series.
I can’t wait to hear that Nintendo crushed these fucktards.
Funny how they did this right before MK8 will launch huh?
Fuck you, Philips! You forgot to sue Sony & Microsoft, too! Oh wait! You can’t because then all 3 companies will flatten your tiny ass in rapid succession!
Honestly, Nintendo should be suing Philips with the whole CD-I fiasco…. lol These lawsuits are probably totally baseless.
Pretty much every device has motion control in it….. Actually, almost all my newer video game systems have it in it…. PS3 Dualshock 3 controller, PS4 Dualshock 4, Wii Remote, Wii MotionPlus Remote, Wii U Gamepad, 3DS XL, Playstation Vita and my Galaxy Note 2. So seriously, “motion control” patents are pretty much ridiculous. EVERYTHING has motion control nowadays.
Nintendo wins 99% of these. Philips just looking for some on Nintendo’s money. That’s the only way Nintendo will be “doomed” is if everyone sues them and takes away their money. Nintendo is a lot of things, including being assholes, but they don’t steal or break patents.
Philips, have they become so desperate? Nobody buys their dumb batteries anymore. Boo hoo.
Hey, look! A patent troll!
I thought the SIXAXIS came first
I wouldn’t write phillips off yet. They are a real technology company. They aren’t a typical patent troll, but they put a considerable amount of money into R&D. Phillips electronics is also huge in Europe, and they make more than tvs and stereos. They make MRI machines, and just about every type of high end medical equipment imaginable.
I’m not worried, nintendo has been sued like 8 times within a year or so, each one they have successfully shut down the law suit and took compensation, if nintendo wants, the last law suit against the motion control they won in the previous courtcase would superceed the patent of 1996 so nintendo is in the clear
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All this butthurt in the comments. This is business matter. It doesn’t matter if you thought the CD-i games sucked.
Looks who’s jealous the CDi failed.
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