UK Charts: Super Smash Bros Remains Only Wii U Game Within Individual Top 40

-First person mode
-Online mode upgraded to 30 players
Assisted Aim – Full: Traditional instant GTA 5 targeting
Assisted Aim – Partial: Short lock-on period
Free Aim – Assisted: Brief initial lock on and under-the-hood aim assistance.
Free Aim: No lock on.

And all the standard better visuals, longer draw distances, better framerates, more foliage, all the DLC combined, PS3/Xbox 360 online data transferable to PS4/Xbox One versions, new missions, clothing, animals, vehicles.

And the ability to play as an animal

Speak for yourself, but I have no problem with the gamepad. If you can’t play with it, there are alternatives to use. But do me and others, who share my experiences with the gamepad, a favor and don’t speak in out names that the gamepad is a problem.

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Well, too bad useless commander. As long people want it, this cycle continues.

That I have to agree. Ubisoft was really not on par this year.

Surprisingly EA was somewhat likeable this year in contrast

Perhaps, to most consumers, it’s more fun than our games?

What games?
Sunset Overdrive
Halo MCC
Titanfall
Forza Horizon 2
GTA V
Rayman Legends
Diablo 3
Far Cry 4
Dragon Age Inquisition
Just to name a few…

Clean, simple OS that can multitask, record clips, and instantly switch apps all while playing a round of Halo 2

GamePad widely considered to be the best they’ve made. Significantly better d-pad, more responsive triggers, rumble is stronger, grip is extended, 30 hour battery life

Who’s the one making a fool, the one who fed the troll?

“jealous about what? The fact that he doesn’t get to play a Mario game?”

Try Donkey Kong (much better than 2D Mario), but there’s Zelda, Star Fox, Metroid, Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, Bayonetta, Devil’s Third… And yes, Mario Kart and 3D Mario games. Wish I could include F-Zero, Wave Race, Eternal Darkness (maybe we’ll see a sequel), Nights (well, Rodea might fit), Mad World, Red Steel, Tenchu, real Resident Evil (the HD makeovers don’t count), Billy Hatcher, Tenchu, Prince of Persia (but it’s usually multiplat, as is Beyond Good and Evil), No More Heroes, etc. Of course, the Wii U is reverse compatible with Wii, so some are still relevant (hey, it’s new until you’ve tried it).

“Oh you mean idle controllers that aren’t forced gimmicks and ones that developers can easily embrace?”

It’s a double-edged sword for a reason. Push for innovation and things feel forced. Make optional and it gets lost. Compromise vision, or go all in. Granted, it’s not as revolutionary as the Wiimotes, but it still makes navigating the OS intuitive, and hey, it has all the physical inputs necessary (except maybe analong shoulder buttons). But wait, just like Wii, there’s a traditional controller, and the Wiimote also works, even the Gamecube controller. Do you buy cable or satellite? Better stop because I doubt you watch every channel, and that’s a monthly fee instead of a one time deal and you’re done.

“You mean “movies” that have won Oscars in interactive story telling? Or games like DA Inquisition, Alien Isolation, Far Cry 4 which dont even focus on story in the first place and puts gameplay first like what Nintendo fanboys love?”

Fine if it puts gameplay first, if it’s in terms of focus and amount of time spent playing versus watching. But how many twin games do that? And compared to console games (i.e. Wii U)?

“Steaming pile of shits surprisingly still have more games now, and in the future than what Wii U will ever get. Shocking.”

More “games”? They might have more titles, but games? And how many genres do their libraries hold?

“Ignoring games like Alien Isolation, Ori and the Blind Forest, Forza, which aren’t photorealistic, aren’t violent?”

Okay. Ignoring the point of that one particular aspect. But again, what’s the norm? Photorealistic, FPS, Open-World titles with M-ratings and usually overglorified QTEs.

“Maybe what these “jack offs” are playing are immersive, rich, and highly rated games? Oh wait, your opinion is God, shouldn’t have my own should I!”

Sorry if I came across like that. But ‘rich’ and ‘immersive’ are relative terms. To me, gameplay fits those qualities, otherwise I’d watch a film, even a movie, or read a novel. But a game? Maybe something like Hotel Dusk, or Phoenix Wright if it’s story I’m really after in games. But a game has to have more gameplay than story and cutscenes to be an actual game.

“Expensive? It’s only a hundred bucks more than a Wii U, with more powerful hardware, a better controller, and long term investment. Ignoring Forza 5, Titanfall, Halo MCC, Sunset Overdrive, and the future with Quantum Break, Halo 5, Scalebound, Gears Of War together with existing 8th gen games like Far Cry Shadow of Mordor, Dragon Age?”

With that extra hundred, you could get another game (hell, a lot if thwy’re indies), another controller, a couple novels, donate to charity, a nice meal… And without any real exclusives, then really, they’re budget PCs and yeah, cheaper than full, already built PCs. But..they ain’t really consoles.

‘Power’ is relative. Depends on how it’s used. Still no real leaps in physics and graphics, especially no leaps in terms of new ways to play on a console unless you count the gamepad (and look past its Dreamcast controller and Gameyboy Advance/Gamecube connector similarities).

Long-term investments require a leap of faith. Sadly, is all about third parties and multiplats, so raw power is what really matters when looking for that budget PC.

“Well that turd plays better, looks better, and sounds better. Looks like it was steamed well”

Plays better? How so? No Gamepad, or Wiimote, which work well for what they do. Maybe the pro controller isn’t the best, or the Gamecube controller, but Wii U can be just as traditional and archaic as the others where controls are concerned.

“Considering the movie medium is immersive, and the gameplay remains excellent, your point is incredibly invalid”

No. The movie medium is it’s own medium. Games can have elements from it, but controllers need to serve as the main input to constitute a game. Are you saying something that has an element from another medium or even genre is the same as that medium or genre? Yeah, Metroidvania and Destiny are an RPGs.

“A real console has a traditional controller, powerful specs, great third parties and first parties. That was GameCube, that was Xbox 360, that is PS4 and Xbox One”

Wii U has a traditional controller (3 if you also count the Wii classic and Gamecube). Wii U has powerful specs, above all seventh generation consoles. ‘Great third parties’ is a misnomer this generation. Just look at how Sega, Capcom, Konami, Ubisoft, have decayed. And where’s Treasure? They made great games, talented devs, and huge catalogs. All gone now, at least from those publishers. But of course Wii U has great 1st party, its Nintendo, and they rely on that. Compare their track record and catalog with Sony and MS. Compare Sony’s active catalog to their sixth generation catalog. And keep in mind, the seventh generation produced MicroSony, or the twin paradigm.

“Real gaming is having variety and loving all consoles and games, whether it be Mario, whether it be The Wolf Among Us, whether it be COD. Something which you lack miserably”

‘Variety’? Since when? Come on…. Since the sixth generation. And no, there can be distasteful consoles and franchises. Fanboys are blind, but so are those who buy and play anything, regardless. Have some pride and think for yourself. It’s okay to dislike a lot under the sun, just have good reasons for doing so.

I lack what? The things I dislike? Yep. But Saturn and PSOne had great games. Wish I had a PS2, but the Gamecube and Gameboy Advance took up all my time and money regarding games. Now? 3DS has me covered for turn-based strat RPGs, and other genres that are even dead on the twins. And that’s where third parties shine. Oh, sorry, they tend not to be Western junk. Sorry, but Rare, Silicone Knights, Ubisoft, and THQ are downhill or dead.

“Ah, the Nintendo pearls, which apparently reveal themselves once every 2 months compared to the others which reveals themselves every week”

Um, a pearl takes time to form and must pass the quality test. How does it play? What genre? Anything new? If much is the same, when’s the last time its predecessor was experienced? Aesthetic choices? How do the imperfections compare to the overall quality? How much story is there? Is that good? Regardless, can it be skipped?

And what are these so-called third party or MicroSony pearls that are cranked out every week you speak of? Transistor (also on PC) and Cuphead (not yet out and also coming to Steam) are two pearls (maybe) I could think of that exclude Wii U. And where are the Japanese-style games?

“Yeah, the delicious slop of MGS V, Witcher 3, Batman Arkham Knight which Wii U gamers like me sadly will never get to experience……………………unless I have a PS4 and Xbox One that is”

Hey, if that’s your thing, go for it. If I wanted stuff like that, I would’ve gotten a PS360 last generation. Those types of “games” still don’t appeal to me now. But then most of my favorite genres are dead or dying now anyway.

“Yet Bioware’s latest game is rated 90 on average”

Okay. That means what to me? Sorry, ‘slop’ was uncalled for. I have no interest in that medium or style of gaming. Nintendo, Sony (pre seventh generation), and Sega (sixth generation and back), and what third parties created then were my style. But Sony and third parties jumped the shark, or went overboard. MS and their PC approach never suited my tastes, but they seem to have hijacked the console arena. Nintendo, a few third parties, and indies make what I want now.

“Your definition of real games? Games with easy gameplay (3D World), terrible online experience(Mario Kart), empty single player (Smash), and no story at all (everything Nintendo has made for the last decade)?”

Easy? Superficially, perhaps. But delve deeper and you might find that challenge is there.

MK8’s online had a few hiccups connecting for me, but I still raced against live opponents. What else is more important. Pretty straightforward. Very satisfying.

I don’t care about Smash.

Again with stories? Oh, Nintendo does have them, however sparse they may be. But, Fire Emblem and Xenoblade are heavy with story, maybe not on the level of interactive move. Then again, I prefer Prime and how its story is optional. But why care when gameplay is the point? I can enjoy chess without a storyline. I’d still enjoy Fire Emblem if they didn’t have stories.

“Ah the third parties of seventh gen, which never came to the Wii. The ones which have 90+ Metacritic scores, the ones that will stand the test of time, the ones that pave the way and disrupt the industry. In other words the ones that Nintendo will never get or understand I see”

There were plenty of third parties on Wii. That was the last Ninty console where my third party collection exceeded first party. Look at Ubisoft’s entries: Red Steel, RS2, No More Heroes, NMH2, Tenchu, Rayman, PoP (shitty, yes, but at least they tried)… And Sega: Sonic up the ass (and good ones), Nights, Conduit, C2, House of the Dead… Capcom: Umbrella Chron, Darkside Chron, Sengoku Basara, Okami, Tatsunoku vs…. Then there was Muramasa, Castle of Shikigami III, Mushroom Men, Ghostbusters, Silent Hill… With Wii U, it’s mostly indies to create what third parties no longer do. Third parties can keep the pollution off the last of the real consoles.

Disrupt the industry? You mean, play it safe, pander to the lowest common denom, and add filler instead of actual gameplay? No, the Gamepad would disrupt the industry and push it into a more intuitive place, though not as much as the Wiimotes did. But third parties wanna copy and paste, use archaic controllers, dev for x86 [ancient], and focus on movies than an immersive experiences where the player is in control and actually, uh, plays.