A number of Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U players have been complaining that Diddy Kong is too powerful. Criticisms against the red-capped monkey claim that he moves too quickly, deals too much damage and shrugs off too many opposing moves – giving him the edge over his opponents. One Smash Bros. player, who goes by the handle “Doom,” issued the following proclamation about Diddy’s powerful nature:
Let me preface this by saying that, in my opinion, IF DIDDY KONG’S UP AIR (up + A in the air) HAD ABOUT 25% LESS KO POWER, NOTHING ABOUT HIM WOULD BE UNBALANCED. He would still be a very powerful character, but powerful characters are hype and great to watch/play—overpowered ones quickly grow tiresome and become degenerative to the game’s competitive value.
Since a few weeks into Smash 3DS’s release,” he wrote in an email, “people started noticing Diddy was a very powerful character.” Top-level Smash pros such as “Leffen (Sweden), Jtails (New York), Edge (Japan), Cyve (Germany), and Zinoto (Michigan) [played as Diddy Kong and] were emerging with impressive tournament finishes and gaining recognition from people who had played with them online. By the time the Wii U version was released, many pro players attending a launch invitational tournament hosted by Sky Williams in Southern California decided Diddy Kong was the ticket to victory because of his low learning curve and devastating potential.
You’ve Got to be kidding! D:
actually, it’s kinda truth
Reason is that if Diddy manages to grab you and throw you in the air, is most certain ANY aerial will hit you, as his aerials have near to 0 lag and 2 of them are quite powerful
Fuck yea it’s true. Just got done fighting him He’s little mac with good ground and air attacks, plus good recovery.
I was playing against a pretty good smasher and he changed to Diddy and I beat him badly 3 times in a row and 2 stocked him in two matches with Fox. Diddys are pretty predictable and you can reflect his bananas and his rocket. Then I whooped him with Ness and Ganon and I switched to Marth when he switched to Ganon and whooped him. Been playing Smash all Christmas break and watching smash vids. Lol it’s 3:40 am and I was playing FG not too long ago.
If you beated him badle 3 times in a row and 2 stocked him while he was using Diddy that means that he doesn’t know how to play.
It sounds like you were just the better smasher. Stop bragging and address the issue. He’s fast, powerful, had good recovery, and he has a very quick side smash, not to mention his good aerials.
That combo is tough, but all you have to do is quickly shift in the air. The intangibility is quicker than he can follow up with the combo except when you have very little damage. The tricky part is knowing when to roll in mid air since it leaves you vurnalbe. Also, so many people use Diddy Kong online that you get pretty used to his moves and then you can start dominating him. I’ve had the most success against him with Zero Suit Samus and Lucina if you want to consider using those characters as a counter.
Ness is good but no one plays him. And I’m tired of all these 5 year olds who got smash for Christmas playing as Little Mac. When I play fg against someone who sucks I just played who they played to make them feel bad. Like this guy played Ness and I don’t play Ness that often but I wrecked him so bad that even I was surprised. That forward air and back throw.
what a loser you are
Is Shulk a good character? Haven’t tried him yet
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All characters in Sm4sh are good you just gotta find their potential. People tend to join the band wagon when new things are discovered. No character is better than the other, just gotta play good.
Ha ha ha so funny! You probably dont play smash bros at a competitive level dont you? Please dont speak about something you dont know!
Obviusly if i play my pichu agaisnt a marth (in melee) and marth is controlled by a casual to the game i cam beat him but agaisnt a pro who mainly control dk even if he pick up marth i wont be able to beat him same goes to meta knight and ice climbers in brawl. There are characters that are stronger an easiest to make damage o get a KO thats a FACT so dont speak stupid things if you dont know. I dont really care if diddy is op because i dont play profesionally so my whole live isnt around smash (thought i have won some national minitournaments) but saying that there are no stronger characters is just being ignorant there is NO fighting game perfectly balance keep that in mind.
Why’re you talking about Brawl and Melee when he was talking about 4?
I’m talking about Smash 4 you dumbass prick. Known as “Sm4sh. Wanna battle me? Smash 4 is pretty well balanced. Do you even play Sm4sh at a competitive level? The other games are unbalanced because they were never PATCHED. Sm4sh gets patched.
Smash 4 got ONE balance patch and there’s been no talk of one since then. The community’s consensus is that Diddy is stupidly powerful. When the numbers are crunched Diddy’s worst match up is against Sheik where it’s 5.1/4.9 in favor of Sheik. Almost dead even. It means Diddy wins 49 matches out of 100 matches against a Sheik of even skill. Diddy’s worst match up is against what is practically a dead even split.
That is not balanced. And while Smash 4 is the most balanced of the series so far its balance is not perfect. No fighting game’s balance is perfect. One patch to bring the 3DS version in line with the Wii U version does not make difference. When Smash 4 gets a patch that does some actual balance come back with your argument again. Until then you haven’t got a leg to stand on.
Shulk is my enemy lol in a good way. though i cant play all that well with him, YES he is a good character
Ness is actually really good in this game and I was surprised. That being said, I never feel too distressed when fighting him because all of my opponents eventually resort to either spamming his PK Fire or Thunder attack so I quickly dodge and counter. I can understand why playing against Little Mac is frustrating since most of his players just spam the C stick for the super armor, but I love playing as him…he’s my go to character!
i agree Little Mac is pretty fun to play as… until i cant beat someone online i go to Link
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Why is this news? People whining about this character is nothing new.
You can just hear Alba scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Because My Old Nintendo News reports old shit all the time.
What’s all this monkey business??
Lol I thought this article was a joke
I’ve beaten Diddy Kong with Zero Suit and even Little Mac in the past. He’s very good, but not OP
You were probably playing against a 5 year old if he lost against Little Mac.
No, I was playing against a top tier fighter…it helps that I’m the best Smash player who ever lived!
And Sony has never copied Nintendo XD
Are you autistic or something? Who the fuck constantly bashes Sony in a Nintendo website smh
Ahahahaha, are you even serious?
Do you know how much more often Nintendo sites are filled to bursting with Xbots and Ponies looking to take the mic out of Nintendo gamers?
Granted, it doesn’t make it any less wrong when a Nintendo gamer does it, but considering the fact that they get far more crap from the other two than the other two get from them, I don’t see why anyone’s got the right to complain about it.
Yeah there are totally no Nintentrolls in the internet said no one ever
Which I mentioned in the latter half of my comment.
Which you’d know if you had read it.
On this particular base, there are none…
Is that some form of pathetic excuse for going off topic?…
You apparently didn’t even read the full comment.
Hmmmm….;)
Cool! If you can win with a little mac i definitely want to play agaisnt you!! : ) i like to play agaisnt tough smashers! Would you accept the challenge? : D
That’s what all the scrubs say…until they get rekt.
Yeah? We’ll see if that ever happens to me. I would brag about my For Glory Win% but I know that most people don’t take it seriously anyway.
I’ll never be able to understand competitive Smash Bros players.
No he isn’t.
He is not. People who play online just spam the down throw and his back/up air, and a banana peel for good measure. It’s easy to counter. I haven’t got beat by any Diddy while playing online. Stop whining because you don’t know how to use a controller. This is Little Mac all over again.
Maybe because you played against a horrible player and not a skilled one. It’s like meta knight from brawl. He’s only hard to beat if the player knows how to work with them.
Diddy Kong is no Brawl Meta Knight.
I know i’m just saying. That every character can be powerful… It just depends on who plays them.
No, Brawl Meta Knight wasn’t just a character who was GOOD when used strategically, he was unbeatable. Diddy Kong is very beatable.
Whats your Id, i’ll destroy you with diddy and change your mind…
I wanna watch that fight
Just git Gud
This is not about people who play online, but people who actually know how to play the game and go to tournaments. I haven’t been beaten by any Diddy in FG either, but I know that he is indeed OP. Go to a tournament and play real players then say the opposite.
More stupid complaints
I just witnessed Diddy’s power today. He is ridiculously overpowered in this game, he is very fast and his attacks goes off very quickly, it’s nearly impossible to preview his moves.
No, it’s really not impossible to predict his moves.
Also, his projectile game is weak. Use that against him and gimp his recovery into the dirt.
He’s got some great combos and a couple of powerful kill attacks, and he could definitely use a bit of a nerf, but he’s not the monster people are making him out to be.
He isn’t even that hard to play against I whoop diddy kong with dark pit all the time online
Dark pit yess
I use him a lot and while I fairly good with him I dont think hes that over powered. I have much better luck with Toon Link.
From my experience, diddy kong is no match for the larger characters. I main diddy until I get in a match with someone who is good with a large character. I have to switch to another large character to beat them.
Diddy’s banana is deadly.
lol is that a joke? I used Diddy in brawl and I use him now, and his banana sucks now since you only get one use.
It’s not the amount. It’s how you use it.
The amount was crucial to some of his most powerful techniques back in Brawl.
If they had kept his ability to use two at once, he would most definitely be overpowered in the right hands.
So in this case, it kinda IS about the amount.
He isn’t like Metaknight , one quick fix so far its one issue they see, then seems to be ok
Are you fucking serious? This is not news. This is what a few people have said. You’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one: You might as well make an article when something goes on Suspect Testing on Smogon or whenever a new Pokemon card is leaked. I followed My Nintendo News because the articles were informative. Now I’m considering going elsewhere; somewhere that posts NEWS.
…You do know you don’t have to read all the news they put out?
I expect a NEWS website to put out NEWS. Is that so difficult to ask?
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You come here for news? Ha! What news?
Good job @ replying to yourself LOL
This is not news. Don’t post stuff like this.
Seeing as you own this site what would you wish he would post in YOUR website?
You fucking entitled shit.
Leave Diddy alone! It’s bad enough we didn’t get Dixie Kong or K. Rool!!!
I have to say. I’ve only faced one Diddy Kong fighter in my hundreds of battles online. He was EXTREMELY good and destroyed me too. I am glad that the Little Mac fad has died down a bit. Most people don’t use him anymore in 1 v 1’s. He is pretty common in 2 v 2’s, however.
As for most popular characters. I am really sick of the Marths, Lucinas, Links, Captain Falcons and Megamans. They are used WAYYY too often. In 2 v 2’s ZSS is used a lot as well as Ike and Villager (Villager is the MOST annoying character to play against in 2 v 2’s. They spam the prjectiles and bounce off the edges all day long and hide behind that stupid tree).
I try to use everyone on the roster from Donkey Kong to Wii Fit Trainer, to Jigglypuff. I use them all and I wish other people would do the same.
Playing as Jigglypuff online is extremely fun IMO. I’m suprised so few people are using her.
I mainly main Ike and G&W, but I play with multiple characters.
Yup, I catch so many people off guard with Jiggs, its hilarious. By the end of the match its pretty much me vs everyone XD
I’m pretty good with G&W. His over A while running is awesome.
I use a lot of people myself, I “main” quite a few, but some people I barely use, but I do try to give everyone a shot here and there just for fun. And yea villager can be quite annoying lol.
The ONLY character I don’t like to use is Shulk. His moveset is really not appealing to me.
I played onlne yesterday and remembered why I hate it so much, nothing but spammers and runners! Shulk fighter always back slash and counter, nothing else. I played for fun and for glory teams and free for all, one guy used samus and sat back charging her blast andrunning away til I had enough and did the same thing, so he switched to link and spammed til I had enough and chose link and kept beating him. I don’t have fun when I have to resort to pussy tactics to win in a four way match. And does charizard have a move besides flare blitz??? EVERY charziard I’ve played spams the hell out of it, and in a four way match it’s soooo annoying.
I feel the same way. I absolutely hate going against people who only repeatedly use the same character, especially when that character is somebody like ZSS or LM
Oy, leave my Link outta this!XD
If you think Diddy is okay.. you should try fighting an opponent who actually put some hours into this game instead of your 4 year old brother.
His banana game is stupidly good, and his grabs have guaranteed followups.
With a 86% winrate the last 100 matches on the Wii U version, all I come across are fucking Diddy, Yoshi and Rosalina players.
Sakurai already said there will be no more balance patches, so this is it for me I suppose.
Everyone knows Fox is the best character in Melee, but you don’t hear anyone fucking complain about it because he’s also one of the hardest characters to play in the game and it requires a sick amount of effort to master him. Diddy? Just throw bananas and dthrow uair. Fucking boring. But yeah, this game is a fucking campfest. Defensive trumps offensive yet again, encouraging people to play retarded and spam projectiles all day.
Fuck smash 4, praise Melee.
Yep. More campers than COD.
Ok let not get hasty here
I agree there are tons of spammers, however I have yet to see Diddy’s banana game in this version. In brawl having two was great, in this one it seems pretty useless to me as a Diddy player. But I never rely on one move with anyone, I just use the best move at the best time to counter something if needed. I hate players who use two moves on a fighter and that’s it.
Catch the banana and throw it back, follow up with more of your own projectiles.
Not that hard.
This game is far less campy/defensive than Brawl was, and Diddy is not the monster people are making it out to be.
Good to see other people noticing. Obviously Diddy can still be beaten but he is WAAAAY too easy to destroy people with. He’s not even fun to use anymore to me because he overwhelms people too easily, and seems like most of his attacks have priority. Every time I run into a good Diddy player they spam the same couple of combos dragging the fight out for about the whole 5 minutes. I usually win but that fight is always annoying and never fun.
Smash is a party game, no matter how you slice it.
Mario Kart is a racing game, no matter how you spin it.
Yet it keeps winning “Fighting Game of the Year” from gaming outlets… seems professional gaming outlets don’t agree with you.
Why can’t a game be Fighting/Party. You know, kind of like how you can see Romantic Comedies, and Suspenseful Horror movies.
Genres mix.
I let my five your old nephew 5 played smash against all level 9 Diddy in a team battle and he won so the argument…….. Get better in smash
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I honestly feel Diddy was better in brawl, and so was his “banana game” people are speaking of. They disappear much quicker if I’m correct, and you only get one, and if I’m also correct, they disappear after one hit. I never even use them really in this version cause my friends aren’t idiots and can jump over bananas.
People like to call themselves top tier players by using the noob pick? O.K o.0
No. They are saying that Diddy is over-powered. It’s in the headline…
Funny. Whenever I play with friends, he’s pretty pathetic.
Oh well.
there’s probably some truth to that. diddy is a combo fiend.
I don’t care who is “op” anymore
People think that someone playing Diddy automatically becomes unbeatable lmao, no. At high level play, in the hands of people who really know how to play with fundamentals its OP. Not any for glory scrub you find while playing online.
And here I am, thinking the Nintendo fan base was intelligent enough to not use phrases like ‘noob’ or ‘scrub’…
You found the wrong website man
People favorite character has a weakness to other characters so they complain.
See if you people actually played with more than just the same characters than maybe these “over powered” characters wouldn’t be so over powered. This is all I see online, as soon as one character is determine to be top tier or over powered then everyone and their grandmother starts using it. Then the smart people find a weakness against that said character and the cycle begins. -_- instead of complaining how about using other characters and finding weaknesses for all of them.
Diddy is fast. Sonic is faster. Diddy’s up air is strong. Greninjas is stronger
And Link’s is probably one of the strongest.
Sonic is annoying and Greninja is predictable.
Once again the civilian cattle masses complain about another thing because they cannot play the game as good as their opponents…
If it’s not Diddy it’s Little Mac, Rosalina, Pit, Paluttena, some stage, lag, random tripping or being unlucky with items…
The only thing that is annoying for real are the spammers that cannot do anything else but one single move for 2 minutes…
Predictable civilian garbage…
Learn to play or stay out of my way…
+1
the only charracter I can’t do anything with in smash is olimar
The game is broken in general. When I block sometimes it doesn’t block. The online lags. It’s by far the most overrated game this year and also the most overrated Nintendo franchise.
It’s either because you release the shield to quickly or your opponent shield poked. The online is kinda laggy though.
Mario Kart 8> Super Smash Bros Wii U.
Even Mario Kart 8 is broken. The item balance is terrible. Sometimes when you’re in last place you’ll get one mushroom and people in front of you will get better items.
True, but shouldn’t you get used to it? I got blue shelled, 2 red shell comboed, and had a banana thrown on me in a lap. Was still fine after that
I don’t know how ANYONE can get good at this game? I can’t even beat my niece no matter who I pick, unless I luck out. Most of the time I keep killing my own self because I lose track of where I am all the time. That’s what I always hated about this series.
1 why are you here if you hate the game?
2 From experience, you just have to find a character right for you, I’ve been a Bowser user for a while now and I’m better than I’ve ever been at Smash Bros, I have only beat the full 3DS all star as Bowser and almost all my accomplishments have Bowser in the title.
3 (for any complainer out there) Don’t try to dampen him or I will get even and try to dampen one of your faves.
Not going lie but….I agree
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You just need some practice and patience… I’m assuming it’s the same situation with your Xenoblade Chronicles hate
Hold old is this niece, and if older than 18, is she available? ;)
Ok, this is just starting to sound like a repeat of meta knight last game, from playing as diddy for even a little bit you can tell that not all of his moves are strong. Mainly the up b, but it’s actually more difficult to master than said. Give a total noob the reigns and they wouldn’t know how to 100% use it in a year. If it were Kirby’s up b then yeah low learning curve. But because of losing to diddy too often people have to try and dampen him. Is this what Smash Bros will become? Just people whining because they lost to a character and blame it on the character being OP. Meta knight was more believable because of the glide but diddy doesn’t have that. He just has a powerful move. And if you try to say all his moves are powerful, I have one last word, BANANA.
Lol, that’s a bad thing?
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I really wish people would fucking LEARN how to use the word “hype” correctly. “Powerful characters are hype”…? That makes no fucking sense you dunce.
Are these people fucking kidding me?! Little Mac is the one who is OP. Not Diddy or Meta Knight from the last game. People need to get their shit together on what’s truly OP.
Silence…
No one is overpowered, only I am ovepowered compared to you all…
Little Mac = O, fucking, P!
Not if you know how to keep him off the stage. His air game is shit. There’s a reason he has the highest lose rate out of every character.
Bullshit. Everyone mainly uses him for cheap quick kills dur to his OP punches, even his simplest attacks are too powerful. Diddy Kong and Meta Knight is overpowered to these idiots? lol Fucking morons. I’m beginning to wonder if its the same morons who play COD and don’t bitch a out its obviously glaring flaws…
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You don’t need to be so stubborn. Listen to what others say or someday shot will hunt you down. Just like when hollowgrape said ps4 outsold wii u. That’s all he or she said, nothing else. on the side note, little mac is not op. Only when you have a stage where you can’t fall off he is. Get your shit together on what’s truly OP :)
I meant shit. Damn it autocorrect!
Little Mac: Call of Duty OP on fists.
I have yet to come across a good Diddy Kong player and I’ve been playing both the 3DS and Wii U version. Probably just my luck.
Diddy Kong is the new Meta Knight