Treyarch has confirmed to Eurogamer that Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 is only in development for the Xbox One, PlayStation 4 and PC and there will be no ports this time around. So, that sounds pretty much final. If you want to play the game you’re going to need a PlayStation 4, Xbox One or a decent PC. You can watch the reveal trailer for the game in the video posted above.
“There are no ‘ports'” Treyarch studio head Mark Lamia said at the game’s reveal event. “The game is made on multiple platforms, it’s the beginning of a new generation and we’re showing it to you on all these platforms, to dispel some of the misconceptions about development.”
“We’re working on Xbox One, PS4 and PC. That’s it,” he added. As for other platforms such as PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and – stop smirking at the back – Wii U? We were directed to Activision, which said it had no further platform announcements at this time.
I have a ps4 so I don’t mind.((:
LOL @ PS4. you corporate slaves….
anyway, another fail for the U
lol @ corporate slaves. You’re not a gamer.
He has no life so let him rant.
I’m sure I have more life than you.
Not really, seeing how you spend most your time bitching and “exposing” people
Wait…
Why the phuck would they have the Nin-network Logo on their site if it wasn’t even planned for the WiiU!!??
That’s what happened when u calling companies a scams hahahahahahaha
Even though it’s true they can’t do with in Nintendos
So forget that peace of shit console Wii U hahahhahhahahhahahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahahahhahahahhaha
Hey, that’s nice. I wouldn’t mind having a PS4, or an Xbox One, I like some of their exclusives, it’s just that I don’t have a lot of time to play so I need to prioritize. And for me Nintendo (Wii U / 3DS) and a PC complement very well. Best of both worlds. I already have a HUGE backlog so it would be crazy to add another console.
Why have Wii U?
Wii U’s a joke
Hope their next console do well but again if third party can’t do their scamming in their console kiss third party goodbye
It’s a another Wii U all over again
If Nintendo only and (ONLY)
should let them do their swindling and it will be alright
Eh I don’t care about third party that much. I have smash, so screw everything else.
ME3 for WiiU was amazing. NFSMW, MH3U, upcomming X. I mostly only have time to game on my N3DS, but WiiU is getting exclusives you can’t play on any other system…and although it is looking like it won’t get a metroid, It’s still a hellava deal for $200.
XenoCX looks damn amazing but it will not be enough for me to get a Wii U
I don’t play any Mario, King Kong and etc.
those games are too dumb hard for me
SuperPS4, I feel ya, I don’t play DK, Mario either.
We’ve been lucky wiyh some great Indies, and the other games I have on my WiiU you could get on your PS4, but I’m addicted to Metroid and Zelda, and I’ll be thrilled to get X as I really love Monoliths originsl Xenoblade.
You can get a like-new, refurb WiiU for $200. You don’t need to buy a new one. ;)
For Zelda, Metroid, and Xenoblade. Period, end of discussion.
TWe u is just as good but I like xbox360 better and for all those people that don’t have ps4 or Xbox 1 don’t bother there will probably be a new system next year and I can’t afford a ps4 or Xbox 1 but I really want black ops 3 so why not give it to us
says the sony drone who spends all his time on a Nintendo site. EXPOSED
>>>I can’t even>>>
lmao, stop acting like a robot and act like a man at least one time in your life.
– One troll to another
Nintendo should support scheming and third party will come running back
>>>Why would I lower myself to your low status?>>>
ninicely done commander
lol nicely* that’s a weird glitch XD
BLACKB0ND pulling shit out of his ass as usual. Chances are, you don’t know this fellow! Please explain how he’s a Sony fanboy again? Consider yourself thrown in the rubbish, because you’ll never respond with a valid response to that question.
Oh, I’m sorry, I guess its ok to post crap every time about the PS4 here. We should talk about the fail that is the Wii U, not trying to troll with stupid things about another console.
“Oh, I’m sorry, I guess its ok to post crap every time about the PS4 here. We should talk about the fail that is the Wii U, not trying to troll with stupid things about another console.”
Next time, how about a comment that makes sense.
Sorry to piss on the ps4 fanboys parade but Treyarch never said it isn’t coming to Wii U. We won’t find out if it does until at least E3. The reason being Microsoft pays a crap ton of money to show off the game at their press conference and if everybody knows its coming out for360/ps3/Wii u they’ll hold off buying a console. This has been the norm for Nintendo fans since WAW on Wii so I don’t know why websites like Nintendo life post articles like this. Maybe click bait?
BLACKB0ND, why are you always trashing Nintendo and the Nintendo fanbase?
Yeah, I’m a Nintendo fan. But I’m not afraid to call out Nintendo whenever they make questionable decisions like region locking, not getting third party support, poor handling of the amiibo situation, lack of online features in certain games and not including a charger in the N3DS XL (Really Nintendo?). Did I forget to mention having an anti-gamergate guy voice Abe Lincoln in Code Name STEAM?
Yes, this sucks that COD BO3 is skipping the Wii U. But that doesn’t mean you should make fun of us fans because of it. Believe me, I’ve sent Nintendo several messages urging them to get more third party support and what do they say? “It’s up to them, not us.” Dude, you can’t rely on your first party titles alone! Are you serious!? And when we do get third party support, it’s mostly gimped ports with missing dlc and missing modes and features? I’ve contacted Nintendo about this as well, but they say the same thing. So don’t sit there and tell us “nananananana you don’t get COD on Wii U!” when really, it’s just making things worse.
Go ahead and call me a corporate slave or a social reject and make fun of me all you want because you’ll just keep proving me right by doing so.
~Eventstatus 4ever!~
Buddy, let me tell you a little something: He don’t care! He’s irrational, narrow minded and childish. People tell him things like this everyday, but he’ll never listen.
I agree. If I wanted to listen to someone who will criticize any dumb thing Nintendo does, it’d be Eventstatus.
Another weak minded ass moron starving for attention LOL
Nobody gives a damn about that one exclusive having ass system
Sales say otherwise.
Nice avatar. I can’t wait till the 19th, my PC is ready.
Yes, definitely looking forward to it. I was gonna get it for PS4 but I decided to build a high end PC and play it there. It’s one of those games I want to play where it looks and performs the best.
Hype tells that story. You ponies are so easy to manipulate to where it’s downright ridiculous….smh
Sure, whatever you say.
Mmm hollowgrapej. Me fuck you long time.
I don’t give a damn if you don’t give a damn about a piece of plastic
Hey fuck you pony. Go carry your raggedy ass over to Dualshockers or something , this ” our ” site
Lol fuck off fanboy
I don’t give a damn that u dont give a damn if he doesnt give a damn
I don’t give a damn that you don’t give a damn if I don’t give a damn that he doesn’t give a damn
I don’t give a damn that you don’t give a damn that he doesn’t give a damn that you don’t give a damn that he doesn’t give a damn.
word.. plus we have splatoon and x plus devil third and star fox to worry about on the wii u and mighty no 9 i need games to show love on my ps4 two (-:
Aww, I’m late to the party :(
Man shut your dumb ass up you fucking crowd follower
The clergy proclaims victory for the xbots and sonyans. Your Iwata has become you generations Judas. How does it feel to be treated like a 9 year old AGAIN!! Lol
I buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games. Should Nintendo release their games for microwave ovens, that’s what I’d get to play them. For other games, there’s the PC. I don’t have a big interest in the few PS/Xbox exclusives.
Well. Can you be a squid in Call of Duty? No? Wii U wins.
LOL! I hate squid. It feels nasty in my mouth.
LOL! I hate guns. It feels nasty in my mouth.
being a Nintendo fan sure is hard when you’re surrounded by a bunch of blind idiots
Well said.
Agreed
Because you ain’t a ” real ” Nintendo fan that’s why
So you have to bend over and say yes to be a “real” fan?
I don’t want to be a fan if that’s the case.
Good and I think I speak for the ” real ” Nintendo fan community when I say we don’t need Pretendo muthafuckas like you anyway
+1
Yes because you’re the voice of Nintendo. -_- if you bend over so easily I hate to see you how’d you do in real life. Work must be a bitch for you.
Nicely said. And yeah i think the same. So Called “Pretendo”-fans aren`t real Nintendofans. They have no CHANCE to be accepted on my friends list since they cannot answer my questions i ask every fan before accepting him. But hey, the decision is on them. Crazy enough, Sonyfans are the ones (which call themselves Nintendofans, stupid aren´t they?)- which have Problems to BEHAVE on the Miiverse. They are going to be banned. Not the real Nintendofans, which DO BEHAVE, have Problems with that rules.
Sonyfans only have Problems with behaviour because in their Forum, called PSN, they can do whatever they want. Even Sexvideos are posted there via twitch.
…What? Nintendo fans are no better than anyone else. Miiverse just doesn’t let you see the bad stuff! And if you seem to believe that Nintendo fans behave so much better, why are there some people defending Nintendo’s decision to not add voice chat in Splatoon? Saying they don’t want to hear bad words and little kids screaming? I thought the Nintendo fanbase was mature enough, hm? And yes, there are Sony fans out there that can also be Nintendo fans. Did you know that there are people out there that like both companies? *gasp* Shocking, isn’t it?!
>>>It’s hilarious how the ones that liked your comment are the same ones that think the same about each other>>>
No…but you can talk to your friends and mute everyone else. You can actually build a strategy and talk while you play. (while muting the kids)
Splatoon is fucked. Typical Nintendo turning gold to shit…but fear not, WiiU owners are so starved for games, they’ll buy anything. So it will sell enough to cover the cost of production. :(
and this is because of voice chat? uh huh another pathetic comment moving on
Not just voice chat, but there’s obviously no point in having a conversation with you.
Muting everyone doesn´T work on PSN, it doesn`t work on Xbox live (also right now PSN still doesn`t work in my Country so muting simply isn`t going to Change anything). YOU FAILED HARD Sir. Try again. And better luck next time i should say. Btw: Splatoon isn`t the typical shooter in which “persons” (or should i say Individuums) like you- aka “Pretendos” can do what they want. it isn`t the typical CoD-bs. So go cry in a Corner now. The AI will rape your ass in singleplayer as you aren`t used to such AI in games since when? 1990? FYI: The game Splatoon is a mixture of 3D-platformer, Shooter (but TP not FP) and jump n´Run. You simply cannot run through it and kill everyone to win. You win ONLY if you paint the most area.
The Wii U is too much of a failure for third parties to take a risk by putting their game on it.
They never supported it properly in the first place.
No one supported it properly in the first place. Not even Nintendo or Nintendo fans.
What does Nintendo have to do with it? Third parties job is to sell their games to consumers. Consumers buy their games, not Nintendo. It’s not Nintendo’s job to chase third parties.
lol! You’re being sarcastic right?
Well, just in case, I just have to say that it is not the third parties jobs to sell the Wii U. It’s Nintendo’s job. So, it is Nintendo’s job to hcase down third parties.
BUT, I know you were kidding, right? RIGHT?!
I think you need to take Economics.
Let’s see.
MS and Sony advertise 3rd party games with their own money and they sell.
Nintendo doesn’t advertise for 3rd party, and well, yeah, most if not all big multiplatform games skip the Wii U because they claim and some even prove no profit from Nintendo ports.
Nintendo needs to take economics. They can’t live forever on their pile of cash, not giving a shit about what the consumer wants.
They need to take Marketing 101 while they’re at it.
Sorry, dude, but the “Wonderful 101” which you speak of (the game right?) was a success. Btw. like Bayonetta 2.
You forget following things:
Bayonetta 2 was just a Kind of “Port” from Xbxo 360. It wasn`t a WiiU-designed game (from scratch), They just took their engine over from Xbox 360-early code (in their developer-diary they said the game should have come for Xbox 360, but MS ditched the Project early), adapt it to be able to run on WiiU and thats it. Bayonetta 2 isn`t even using two cpu-cores like it should and that made it easier in programming since ist much easier to program one cpu-core than it is to make it dualcore/threecore or even more cores using. Ist a cheap- guessed 20 Mio. Dollar game. So you don´t Need to sell one Million Units to be successfull! About 200K sold Units (for a Price of each 50 Dollars) would be enough and it even surpassed 500K Units right now ich heard last.
The same goes for Wonderful 101. Cheap game. Thats why theres no german speach, no real video-sequences (well there are only Comics you know?)- ist cheap- in every regard. I guess the developer-costs of Wonderful 101 was about ~10 mio. Dollars. The game also only uses an adapted engine for WiiU and wasn`t optimized or made from the beginning for WiiU. See?
And what have both games in common? Oh yeah- but games come from PLATINUM games, which made perfect PowerPC-games in the past. See? They are japanese and as such know how to adopt to different PowerPC-cpus and or different architectures. But Platinum right now SUCKS at x86-programming, thats why “the legend of KORRA” was crap.
But in the end all what Counts is the success. Ist allready a GIVEN that Bayonetta 3 will be coming soon for WiiU or will be done for next N-console. it may be even announced this e3 or in one of the next Directs or when Platinum says what it plans next. Platinum even thanked the fans to buy their games.
Ist just the fact: Sonyfans doesn´T understand that Nintendo allways designs their games- and their Projects they give to other developrs- to be cheaper than the average game- they simply are jealous. They hope to get Bayonetta 2/3 also. But they won`t since Platinum doesn´t care about x86. Bad luck for you. Platinum doesn´T adopt to x86, since X86 is crap.
Right now x86-architecture has NO FUTURE (Intel knows this dirty secret, since they allready have too many borders and cannot surpass them since you know- physics right? Mores law for Intel-cpus has ended 2 years ago).
The only cpu-tech still advancing right now are:
PowerPC and some supercomputer-architectures (like many-core-cpus based on risc-cores) and…you guessed it…ARM
the Problem why Nintendo cannot use ARM is => too slow. PowerPC beats it easily with much lower clock, even 64bits doesn`T help. A 4-stage pipeline-design with 1 Ghz simply can do much more specific calculations- than a comparable 2 Ghz 8-pipeline-design. Thats why PowerPC is also used in space.
Intels newest cpu will only be about guessed ~5% stronger per core- than the last Haswell. See? Thats the Problem of x86 right now. Usually the cpus should be about 50% stronger each 1.5 years. But they aren`t. Sandybridge from 2011 is only about ~15% slower as the newest haswell. And the problems of that are advancing fast.
Why do you think People are still using their old Sandybridge cpu from 2011 for newest games going to come out in 2015/2016? because ist simply not worth it to consider upgrading it. Thats why.
“So, it is Nintendo’s job to hcase down third parties.”
No it isn`t. Sorry but thats the truth. Nintendo simply doesn`T care about Thirdparties anymore. They don`t give them money, as they use the money to get other developers which truly care about their customers/gamers (like Valhalla-studios for example or Platinum games, next one could be even Konami, and they also have Namco-Bandai on their side) and rather give them money to make games suited only for their platform and which are optimized and not crappy ports. And thats better. So that overhyped crap like Watchflops, Titanfail or Call of Booby- isn`t rushed out for WiiU. That means- this gen WiiU is going to get ist OWN games, Not the same 90% of the lineup which PC also gets.
People on WiiU simply are SMARTER than stupid sonyboys or Xboxfans that buy every overhyped crap (and whats more funnier is- they even hyped up the new StarWars xD) . We get the best JRPG of this gen.What do you get? Final Failtasy? xD Have fun with the 20th FF-game, which developers even say, they are astonished from XCX. And whats more funny is: You don`t Need 100 games to be happy on a platform. I will Play the shit out of XCX. And after that only gems are on ist way. Where are the gems for PS4? Tell me?
After Bloodborne right now, there is only Witcher 3, which is much better played on a PC. Witcher 3 is going to be drastically downgraded on PS4 and Xbox One. Have fun with that crisp game with nearly no draw-sight.
Btw- idiot? Nitnendo didn`t “chase down” thirdparties on Wii, they came on their own. They made stupid CoDs and other crap-games for Wii, because it was CHEAP to make ports from other platforms since they had LUCK that Nintendo didn`T use too exotic tech. But this gen, ports won`t work because this isn`t a cheap singlecore-cpu anymore and you Need Special engines to make games to work like they should. Thats why they are angry. But what they Forget about it:
If they don´t expend, EA will fall soon, since EA lost The Sims-Franchise and SimCity too! EA is considered to be dying in the next 1-2 years now. Konami is also dead, you heard the News right? See? Every thirdparty is DYING, Nintendo isn`t caring and they have enough Money to survive the coming Crash.
See? Nintendo doesn`t Need them. Nintendo only cares about themselves. If Thirdparties decide they don´t Need Nintendo this gen- or decide to only bring not-working games for N this gen, then the consequences will be on THEIR side, not on Nintendos (since Nintendo doesn´t care if Thirdparty-games do not sell, why should they?). Nintendo is allready Swimming in Money again since they make enough Money right now with WiiU to get healthy back the next financial quarter! EA, Ubisoft, Activision- and even Sony & MS – are NOT SWIMMING in Money right now. They are bleeding Money.
Why? Because Sony doesn`t have Amiibo to Keep them afloat. Sony doesn´t even have NFC-Technology in their console. NFC is the future of payment btw. And MS- well they lose a lot of Money right now (bleeding it out) sincce the Xbox One cannot cope with the “success” (for Sonyfans the PS4 seems like a success) of PS4, thus they make it cheaper and cheaper, but not enough People buy it. And because EA and Ubisoft lost a LOT of franchises to Indie-developer (Yeah you read that right! To Indies! Indies made better games than Assassins Creed Unity or Sims 4 this gen).
Just ask yourself the question: What happens if the newest CoD sells even less Units than last COD? You guessed it: Then Activision will have big Trouble ahead.
Like i said: All thirdparties are going to go down this gen. Konami is next, the leader will leave the Company in a few days. That means => no more Silent Hill since that leader was the SUCCESS of that Franchise! It means Silent Hil is now officially dead. It also means, Metal Gear Solid 5 may be rushed out- and no MGS6 since ist the same Situation with Silent Hills too. Without the leader you can´T make good games.
see? The good old times of easy porting are over. Deal with it ;) World is moving on. Even if it means without Sony/MS, without EA/Boobysoft or other thirdparty-developers.
Man, you really failed HARD with this comment. Ok, first of all, you do realize that there’s this thing that exists called an OPINION? Everyone doesn’t like the same games you do. Some people are just not interested in Wii U exclusives and they prefer to play the games on the other consoles. Which is perfectly fine. Everyone has different tastes. And secondly, quit hiding behind PC gaming. PC is the one getting The Witcher 3. NOT the Wii U.
“Nintendo doesn`t Need them. Nintendo only cares about themselves.” And that’s exactly the problem. They NEED to start caring!
WiiU is getting XCX, the jrpg of the gen (as they all it now). Not PC. See your Problem? I don`t care about downgraded Witcher 3. I care about playign full-freedom in XCX. I care about doing my own things which is only possible in XCX. Not in Witcher 3. Witcher 3 is going to have the same problems as most of overhyped games of this gen.
Btw: “And that’s exactly the problem. They NEED to start caring!”
No one cares about Thirdparty any more. Nintendo neither. See your fail now? I don`t care about SIms anymore (the Franchise for me died now not buying the next games coming, and didn`t buy Sims 4 either), my girlfriend doesn`T care. Its OVER for thirdparties. I am also no longer buying any Rayman-games. See? Its not MY Problem. Its the thirdpartys-problems, since THEY are starting to lose many Gamers. Nintendo doesn`T have to care because they know whats Happening in the Long-run. They know they will Need enough Money to survive those hard days heading for ALL of us (that includes you).
EA, Ubisoft and Co are going to learn it the hard way. Guess what that means? The guy who has the Money (and that right now is MS and Nintendo, not Sony) is going to win the war. Sorry, dude, when Sony will run out of Money soon- they will be bought over- or well they are bankrupt and closed forever – just like Konami and others and THQ and others in the past. Nintendo doesn`T care. Why should Nintendo care? 5 Billions are enough to survive the next 10 years. Then EA& others (Konami etc) will be gone. No one is going to care about Konami when the leader left. The Company simply will die and all of its until-then famous franchises. And with it dies another Chance of japanese-gaming. See? The fight is over. Nintendo is going to win the war in the Long-run.
Not EA & others are going to win. EA & others are going to lose millions of gamers, thats how it Looks right now, since CoD allready lost millions of Gamers. Gamers care about GOOD games, not about crap games. And that Shows with WiiU too, since most CoD-players Play their CoD still on Wii. And guess why?
Because the old parts are the much better ones, and i agree with them. Newest parts are just => Crap that many People are starting to regret that they bought it. Since Players also Play much more Battlefield 3 today- than Bugfield 4.
See? 100 Mio. People decided to rather Play CoD Modenr Warfare 3 on Wii- than to buy a new console, just to Play stupid Call of Duty – Black Ops 2 or the coming games. Thats how it goes and it Shows. The consequences are allready there. No one can hide from it. And nintendo is the only healthy Publisher right now. Developers are dying like flies. Nintendo simply doesn`t have to care. They do what they allways do: Look Forward, look to survive the coming hard days when Indies will finally take over and Thirdparties are finally gone and it all starts over again (remember? EA once started as an Indie). Why do you think Konamis leader left and is now INDIE too?
I can’t believe you just said those things, lmao.
So if I want to sell a product at a shop (e.g new chocolate) the shop needs to come to me? Man you guys are a bunch of idiots.
Seriously, you’re embarrassing yourself.
Talk to a mirror and you’ll make more sense.
Nintendo can’t make Nintendo fans want third party games.
Only third parties can make Nintendo gamers want third party games.
Then what’s the point in arguing?
If Nintendo fans don’t want 3rd party games, then this whole “3rd party devs/publishers don’t care for Nintendo” bs shouldn’t be an issue.
Right?
It’s a mute point dude. If Nintendo insists on building hardware 1 gen away from current gen systems, there won’t be/ isn’t going to be 3rd party games.
It’s irrelevant if Nintendo fans (Like myself, believe it or not) don’t get 3rd party games to buy. We don’t even have a choice anymore.
Exactly. Now think about it!
Why did People buy call of Duty on Wii? Why did millions buy Wii-games? It isn`t Magic! it was because of => high Quality-games. Just that. Mario Galaxy, Mario Strikers Charged Football- all those Quality-games. And even Thirdparties made some real good games for Wii, like Ice Age 3 etc- but in Gamecube-days the thirdparties were better! See? Thats what Nintendofans like me care about. QUALITY. We don`t care about what my neighboughs are buying. We don`t care about what others do. We only care about ourselves. Selfish, but thats the way we are. We buy what we want not what others like neighbours or other stupid persons tell us to do. We have something called freedom.
For example: i bought the gamecube late, because it lacked good and enough of Nintendos 1st-party-games. I therefore bought it to Play Sonic Adventure Two and other famous and perfect working-3D Jump n´Runs for it (over the hedge, never played it? Go test it its the craziest Jump n´run i ever played, Ice Age 2 etc). I didn`T bought it for StarWars or Mario Sunshine (xD) or other crappy 1st-party-games. from Nintendo those days (like Mario Kart, which only had 16 tracks which simply was not enough for me). I bought it for Thirdparty. But since those days the Thirdparty-developres changed. Instead of cool Ice Age 3-successor they decided to make it a minigame-collection- thus i have to search for alternatives and i found them. Guess where? Nintendo Baby. Nintendoland is better than Ice Age 3, much better and not only about minigames. Nintendo has a better 3D-Jump n´Run then todays Thirdparties alltogether, Nintendo has all those franchises perfect now and they grow each gen with more fans.
5 years after the gamecube i bought the Wii for its perfect-working 1st-Party-games. So my taste in gaming has changed drastically. Instead of unfinished laggy, crappy Thirdparty-games i today prefer the same Quality like Thirdparties had it in 2005 for such Genres.
And now we have Buggy, laggy Call of Duty on WiiU. Whats the Point in buying that Piece of crap which doesn´T even run at stable 30 fps? Thirdparties are allready dying like flies (Konami is next with all of its franchises lost)- and they know that their fate awates them. Nintendos health is good since there are amiibo and other things to Keep their Business healthy- even if there console right now isn`t a success.
What People fail to understand is: The Wii wasn`t a success because of 100 Mio Units sold!
It was because Nintendo got more than 5 Billion Dollars out of it. Thats what you make consoles for. For Money. Sony lost 2-3 Billion Dollars because of PS3.
A device sold 100 Mio. times doesn`T automically get a success. it is a only a real succes if you get much Money out of it. NO one is happy if you sell something 100 mio. times but you don`t get rich with it. Whats the case then? Its no success. It goes the same for Gameboy, PS1, PS2 and all other famous devices (yes, even Apples Iphones and Ipads). Allways the same: Make much Money. Thats why this Business exists.
You defend pay to play online. Why would I care what you had to say. Maybe while you’re at the shop you could pick up some lube.
He was right, you definitely are embarassing yourself, lmao.
How is he embarrassing himself? It’s not Nintendo’s job to sell 3rd party companies’s games……it’s the 3rd party companies job to sell their own damn games. Nintendo didn’t fail third parties, third parties failed Nintendo
If you want to sell your product in a shop, which one will you choose? The one that’s most attractive to consumers (=> the chance of your product selling being higher), or the one that has less customers than its competition? Will you choose the shop that gives you the most attractive offer, or the one that doesn’t seem to care whether or not you bring your product to them? Will you choose the shop that makes it easiest to sell your product, or the one that’s more bothersome to put your product in?
Nintendo needs to market their console properly to both consumers AND developers. Saying it isn’t Nintendo’s fault that they’re not getting much support from other developers is really silly.
Nintendo’s job is to market their consoles and games to consumers. It’s not Nintendo’s job to chase third parties and market their games as well. Third parties wouln’t know how their games sell on Nintendo platforms because there’s always something wrong with the ones they release for them. Consumer trust is another issue. You don’t gain it overnight and you need to continuously respect them.
wouldn’t*
Eh, actually, yes, Nintendo does need to chase developers, if the situation calls for measurements like that for their console and supporters. They could have easily paid developers to bring their games to the WiiU, and we all know Nintendo has more than enough money to do that. It would have helped them quite a bit if they had done that with some of the bigger titles they’re missing out on.
In the gaming industry, consoles sell games, and games sell consoles. So yea, sometimes console developers do need to chase game developers and have them help out in certain situations, like the one the WiiU is in right now.
And yes, while it might not be the console developer’s job to market the games they got from 3rd-parties, doing it definitely is going to help strengthen their relationship with those developers, which might turn out profitable in the long run, as the chance of getting more support from said developers in the future will grow.
I’ve seen 3rd-party games come up in PS4 ads + Sony advertising 3rd-party games so often now, it really is no surprise they’re getting so much support from other developers. Seen similar XB1 ads as well. Maybe Nintendo should consider it.
Not really. For nintendo to pay for every game these developers want to sell, they might as well just throw all their money on the top of the tallest building. Developer needs to build and manage a team, pay for the amount of time to make the port, wages, resources and material etc. And then charge nintendo so that the developer wont be in a loss. And lets say they do this for every triple A game
And while i agree on the last part a little. It would mean that not only is nintendo paying for the port to their console but they have pay for the marketing for that same game as well.
Nintendo may have money but a loss is a loss. Sony does it because they know that it is a win-win for them. As for nintendo they know the math and wont be winning anything
Yes, that’s why I said “for some of the bigger titles they’re missing out on”. :) Of course it would be a bit unrealistic (and not very profitable) for them to pay for every single one of the blockbusters they’ve missed out on, I do agree with you on that. I personally had games like GTA, Kingdom Hearts and such in mind, btw.
And as far as the ads go, it doesn’t necessarily have to be an ad entirely dedicated to that one game, really. I’ve seen Sony make ads focused on the PS4, while having a bunch of games, including both exclusives and multiplats, appear in clever ways. That is advertising for themselves and for the others at the same time, meaning, they wouldn’t just waste all their money in favour of another developer’s game. Their own product is still the main focus, but attention for the other developers’ products is being raised as well.
Or they could just take a game’s ad, and just put that “WiiU” animation screen at the very beginning; both Microsoft and Sony do that with their ads too, and it seems to be working just fine. I don’t think that would be too big of an investment either honestly, and it still would be effective in terms of advertising. It’s definitely better than nothing at all, that’s for sure. It just shouldn’t be written off right away without even trying, I seriously believe that it could help Nintendo and turn into a win-win situation for them as well if they had support from 3rd-party developers – emphasis on if, though, hah.
Nintendo has no interest in strenghten the relationshop to anyone. Sorry, But you have to accept that Nintendo ist not your friendly neighbour. Seems you doesn`T know what “capitalism” really means huh? Are you a 15-year old? Never learned such things in School?
=> Its better to only care for yourself. And thats the lesson Sony and other big thirdparty-developers have to learn now. See? Sony is bleeding Money right now, since it would cost them ~1 Billion Dollar to repair the PSN like it should. But they don`T have that Money. While MS is pooping out things here and there- and losing also Money, but in the Long run MS doesn´T have to care about such things as they simply can buy Sony tomorrow, and no one could do anything against it.
its KONAMI which is dead now and losing lots of franchises the next months. This is not a Nintendo-market, but a sony-MARKET! Nintendo wasn`t losing a SINGLE developer the last 5 years! It was Sony + MS, my friend. EA lost Sims-Franchise and SimCity, Konami looses Silent Evil and MGS next.
Why should Nintendo care about someone who doesn`t make games for them? Nintendo simply doesn`t care because its capitalism.
Welcome to reality my friend.
A video game console can’t survive on its own, it needs games; therefore, a console developer can’t make profit when there’s not enough games to sell the console. And since it’s not quite in the realms of possibility for Nintendo themselves to put out a game every single month, they need other developers to support their console as well to be able to give the consumers a decent amount of games per year + make the console worthwhile, and in the end, to make profit.
The video game market isn’t your average market where you can just rely on your product itself, there are so many factors you need to keep in mind to get maximum profit – and as a console developer, support from 3rd-parties is one of those important factors. To make profit, you must have good relationships to other participants of the industry, the game developers, to get their support, because a console is highly reliant on other products, which is software, to be able to succeed.
And you’re right, Nintendo indeed does not care about getting on good terms with other developers. But maybe if they changed that, the WiiU might actually have a chance for success.
I didn’t understand the other parts of your comment, specifically the ones where you brought up Sony, Konami etc., so I can’t comment on that.
And no, I am not 15-years old. :)
Fuck yeah they do!
Omg, you can’t say things like that. If a chocolate shop has NO vendors to supply them which chocolate, then they don’t exist!
Wow dude, for real. Chcolate shops need to secure deals with people that make chocolate before they even open their doors.
No, his Point is:
Nintendo simply makes more Quality games (and undeniably better ones). That means. If a thirdparty decides to bring his games on a N-platform he has to make sure it works! Not Nitnendo has to make sure it works. It is not Nintendos Job to optimize your games! Ist the developers Job to make sure the game works and to bring the knowledge with him to get it working! Ist NOT NINTENDOS JOB to tell you 10-year knowledge of how to program for PowerPC. See your fail now? Not nintendo is responsible for not-working games.
Nintendo is ONLY providing the platform and it allways was like this idiot. Even in N64-days, Nintendo didn`t care about thirdparties. It was just like => Thirdparties were HEADING to Nintendo, because it was EASY to develop. Every idiot could make in such times. You wouldn`t even needed a Java-study in These days to make games since there was no => JAVA.
Why do you think Gameboy was a success? It was because => Gameboy was cheapest- it had the longest battery-power (over 15 hours with 4 batteries)- and- the most important:
it got the most games. Why do you think it got the most games? Simple- because it had a CISC-cpu. Yes, the Gameboy had a Z80-cpu, that is a very early Cisc-cpu. Cisc means, ist fucking easy to program for. BTW: TETRIS, the worlds most successfull handheld-game was made by RUSSIANS. Why do you think that is? Ist because => Russians loved to program for Gameboy since it was using easy to develop early x86-tech (the Z80-design became later the normal x86-design you have today in a PS4, an Xbox One or PCs). The Z80 was very complex cpu, yet it was fast enough and it was easy as hell to program anything for it. It was the easiest-to-program-for-Hardware in These days! Even in famous films- where everything is crushed…guess what? They take out an Gameboy and say “Hey i`ve got a Gameboy, we can use this to program that Virus”. Why do you think that is? Ist allways the same.
In these days, there was no ARM-cpu! Thus Nintendo had no choice for other cpu or architectures.
But Cisc was beginning to became inefficent in the next centuries. See? In the late 1990s, t he ARM-cpu architecture was Born and was used as ARM7 in the famous Gameboy Advance, the REAL Gameboy-successor (it was about ~17x faster, enabled early 3D-games and was even able to deliver JAVA-processing and accelleration). ARM means just => RISC-design. And RISC is the complete opposite of CISC. RISC means => You have to have good real programming-knowledge, but it also means your games are having much less bugs and simply work better (more fluid). And that is because Arm doesn`t have- what IT-students call “Unwanted behaviour”. See? It just means => PowerPC has much less “errata” than todays x86-cpus which have that Errata, which leads to => unwanted behaviour.
And then PowerPC was Born shortly after ARM was there. And the first PowerPC (early R4000-design) was used in Nintendo 64. It enabled complete new games. And from there on, Nintendo was in LOVE with PowerPC. The Gamecube used a very efficient PowerPC. The Wii- had 80% of the cpu-power (per core, that means about 30%) of the Xbox 360- with just 729 Mhz! And now the WiiU uses a very similar, but far more advanced and backwads-compatible (only possible becasue they went for 3-core-design => asynchronic architecture) cpu- the Espresso, which was called like that, since it has the same bandwith as modern PC-cpus (x86), but does all this with much less energy, is able to run with 100°C (yes, 100°C, AMD isn`t able to run stable over time with just 60°C), and ist simply much better, not just good in SIMD like AMD is. See? Games aren´t only about SIMD. You do many calculations in todays games, SIMD are just used for doing explosions and such things.
Back to PowerPC: Why do you think Apple went with PowerPC in those days? They didn`t use dumb x86-design. They used the G3, the G4, the G5- which beat the crap out of Pentium 4 in those days.
And nowadays People say (the developres of Project C.A.R.S. and even the Fast-Racing-Neo-Makers says this) the new Espresso-cpu in the WiiU- ccore by core- even beats a Core 2 Duo-cpu (core by core)- while an AMD Jaguar-cpu is only made for Smartphones/Tablett and thus => cannot even beat a old Amd Athlon cpu in many regards (like bandwith, latency, Overall SIMD-Performance etc).
Ist just that => developers are lazy today. They want to use SIMD everywhere. Espresso ist not perfect at SIMD (of course not, since ist not designed for that, but still good enough for xbox 360-like-SIMD-performance and sufficient for most games- but is much better cpu in every other regard like bandwith/s (about 60, vs. 20-30 for AMDs Jaguar mobile-cpu), latency (5ns anyone? Google StreetView runs faster on WiiU than on a modern-day-PC, think about it).
Back to your first sentence:
Since Sony itself does not any longer make GOOD games (Bloodborne wasn`t made by Sony, but by developer who were HIRED by Sony!)- they have to hire developers and have to “chase down” thirdparties to make games for them.
And since its far easier to make games for PS4 (Since its not risc), than for WiiU – of course PS4 is getting more games. But you see- getting more games does not mean getting better. The Gameboy was only famous because it had many Advantages over its other handhelds: Better batterylife, more games and simply better games.
The PS4 however doesn´T have better games. it was NINTENDO to win “the Publisher of the year Price” (for best racing-game, best Action-game (Bayonetta 2) and best Jump n´Run, not Sony or MS. Sony or MS wasn`t even in the top-third-list.
See? You cannot compare Nintendo with the typical Sony/Ms-games. Nintendo is Special and will hopefully allways be (otherwise the industry is going to Crash). its an undeniable FACT, that Nintendo makes the most QUALITY, that means- games working Day 1 without patches/updates- games. See? it wasn`t Nintendo who made Titanfall, or Assassins Creed Unity, Or Bugfield 4. It wasn`t Nintendo who made Driveclub or other crappy, Buggy games.
Nintendo made games like Mario Kart 8, Mario 3D World, helped to make Bayonetta 2 (but they of course didn`t help in development, only some decisions were made by them, the development itself was only done by Platinum and Nintendo just gave them a few tips since it was part of the contract), they also helped to achieve the higher lego-City-Quality (thus the lego-Franchise for the first time got much higher average Ratings since => better Quality and thus why its exclusive to Nintendo-platforms)- and they made further games like Pikmin 3, Nintendoland and other high-Quality ones. See? Only very few games of Nintendo are low-quality or 70%-rated like Nintendoland.
Most of Nintendogames gets Ratings higher than 85%.
Now look at PS4-side:
The only REAL PS4-exclusive game it has with Rating higher than 90% is Bloodborne. Thats it. Nothing more. Only Bloodborne. And that wasn´t made by Sony, but by Bend-Studios which was HIRED by sony to make it. See? Sony Bend therefore is a SECOND-Party-Studio.
The only other PS4-games with higher Rating than 80-85% are:
-Ports of old PS3-games – lots of Indie-games which you can Play everywhere else, even on Smartphones- and lots of Remakes. But no other real PS4-game except Bloodborne.
See? Thats why Sony HAS to chase for Thirdparties. Nintendo doesn´t have to do it, cause:
a) Nintendo gets their own thirdparty-games this gen (like Hyrule Warriors, maybe that Pokken-game, we got Bayonetta 2 and Wonderful 101 and get Devils Third soon, Project Treasure was announced)- and therefore simply doesn`T care about EA & Ubisoft & other big thirdparties anymore.
b) Nintendo doesn´T Need the Support of Thirdparties since they have their own big games coming. Xenoblade Chronicles X, Starfox, Zelda, Splatoon, Kirby & Joshi.
See? When did PS4 get the last BIG 2D-Jump n´Run NOT MADE FROM INDIES? You guesed it: It was the worst 2D-Jump n´Run ever made from Sony-Studios- LIttle Big Planet 3. It was crap, rated at 60-65%, just Like Knack at the Launch.
See? Sony does have to chase down other developers, otherwise no one would buy anymore a playstation. Ist because People buy the Playstation 4 for its Fifa and Call of Duty. Not for its crappy Killzone, Knack, or other mostly crappy real 1st-party-games.
See my Point? On Nintendos platform WiiU i can choose which Kind of 2D Jump n´Run i like:
=> Do i want Donkey Kong (which is very hard, but still fair and has a cool Music and leveldesign)?
or do i want to go just for Rayman Legends which is playable on a toaster? Sure Rayman is good, but clearly the good old days are over. No one cares about Rayman that much anymore. Rayman is just => a poor-mans-choice if you don`t care about other jump n´Runs.
=> Or do i want to choose from the other many 2D-Jump n´Run franchises Nintendo has? Sonic? Sure you can go the sonic-way, but the games got worse each gen
How about Joshi? Or Kirby? Well, if you more like fun-only sidescrollers, but having no hard difficulty thatn thats the way to choose.
And we also have Mario- the classic one. See?
Nintendo has sooo many 2D-Jump n´Runs. They even made Metroid 2D a few years ago. Maybe its coming back?
See? On Nintendos WiiU you have about ~10 big franchises to choose from. Every one differs drastically from the other. While Donkey Kong Country is the hectic game, which is very hard to master, Mario is the more easier and funnier Thing and more classic way to Play since you don`t have to rush through it.
So- Sonic, Mario, Rayman, Joshi, Kirby, Metroid, soo many 2D-Jump n´Runs to choose from…and the Indies are not counting since they don`t offer the Content of a REAL BIG 2D-Jump n´Run game made by a big Publisher/developer. Indies are mostly 5-Dollar-titles.
Now look at PS4s-side. Where is something like Mario? You only have stupid Jak & Daxter. And thats it. if you don`t like that => Bac luck finding others. There is no Donkey Kong, no Kirby, no Joshi, no sonic, just countless crappy Indie-games which are mostly also available on a toaster.
See? Thats called variety. But it isn`t like Nintendos WiiU would be perfect. It lacks in racing-simulators and we only get C.A.R.S. in this genre. But i think- since Wii got nothing of These games- its enough to be glad about it. Nintendo never was about racing-simulators. It was allways about Jump n´Runs, funracing-games and games like Zelda.
Why would Nintendo fans buy either gimped, rip off (Mass Effect 3 instead of Mass Effect Trilogy) or late ports? There’s a good chance a lot of Wii U owners own a PS3 or Xbox 360 so they might not wait for the port.
Mass Effect 3 was a beautiful, very polished port. It’s one of the few games I even boot my WiiU for, even today.
HAHAHA cuz frame rate issues with some few glitches and ps3 graphics surely is a polished port
What? It was gorgeous. You obviously didn’t play it. And the multiplayer was/is phenominal.
Ok, I get it. Random, blind fans spewing comments using things they heard other, blind fans say. It was an incredible game, sorry you missed out.
I definitely need to get around to that game. I heard good things about it!
For real. The WiiU version is cheap now, and the interactive comic to catch you up in the trilogy, the soundtrack, the gameplay, the depth and story. It even brought a tear to my eye more than once because the characters are so believable and the voice acting with the background music is phenominal. You should play the WiiU version as it natively has the updated and better ending choices. I played through to get all three endings. I just can’t praise it enough, and for those that hate EA, this was a great port from another software company paid by EA, and they poured effort into making use of the gamepad and tuning it to the WiiU. Will you EVER notice a drop in framerate? Maybe? I couldn’t notice because if it happened, it was so rare and minor, you’d need to be Digital Foundry to find it.
Lol, I can’t get it on Wii U. I don’t own one anymore. Traded it in for a PS4 due to frustration with Nintendo. :P I’ll probably get the trilogy on PC though.
Dumbass. “Will you EVER notice a drop in framerate? Maybe? I couldn’t notice because if it happened, it was so rare and minor, you’d need to be Digital Foundry to find it.”
You don´t Need to be “Digital Foundry” to see such things. People saw Mario Kart 8 dropping to 59fps, and you are telling me you can´t see Frames dropping? Some PS4-games even drop down to NINE Frames/s. Lol- talking about framerate-Dips.
Seems you really aren`t a real nintendofan, just another “wannabe”-one. Sorry, dude, but to be a real fan there are many rules you have to follow to. Otherwise you won`t be acceptect as a real fan of that Company.
You don´t get automatically a fan of a Company just because you buy a console of it. There are millions who bought the Wii- played 5 games of it (in 2 weeks) and then sold the games again. Are those People Nintendofans too? Don`t think so!
So conclusion is: Yes i do recognize a single frame-drop. I am used to 100-300 fps-gaming not to casual cinematic 25 fps-gaming, Sorry dude. PC , ever heard of it? I played Unreal Tournament on PC in ~2000- with 200 fps. And it was just normal.
Then you simply are only used 25 fps. May that be? Sorry, dude but i am used to 60-100 fps. I am no PS3/Xbxo 360 victim (which games were mostly 20-30 fps). I am used to PC-games which Play with ~100-300 fps, depending on which game and which rig you have.
Masseffect 3 wasn`t polished for WiiU. Even rayman Legends- Ubisoft told they didn`t polish the game, as they had no more time left and they simply thought it was good enough as it was and it was necessary to further polish it (they said the used uncompressed textures many times, instead of using compressed ones, which the WiiU was clearly designed for).
That’s bs.
If Nintendo never supported it, we’d already be playing the NX instead of pushing the 10 m sold line
lets just say the gaming comunity slept on wii u from jump. cuz all there launch games was crack compared to the ps4 and ones launch line up. i know cuz i bought all three at launch, ps4 and xbox one would b the laughing stock of the comunity if we would had third party full support from jump. ya fanboys should be grateful that never happen for obvious reasons
Sorry, but WiiUs launch-lineup was WAY better than PS4 + Xbox One. Obvious. ZombiU allready- and that is from Ubisoft! beats- with its 78% the ratings of ALL PS4-launch-games! And if you count the late launch-window then even the Rayman Legends “Beta” thing, then it finally nails PS4/Xbox Ones lineup. Think about it! PS4s lineup was made of very mediocre/bad titles with only about ~55-60% rating (things like Knack, Killzone SF, Little Big Planet or wasnt it at launch? and other crap). And they didn`t joke about why these games got those ratings. The first good game the PS4 got, was about 6 months after it came out with – Infamous Second Son with about 80%.
Sony even got SUED for lying about 1080p in Killzone SF. I said no one was joking.
WiiUs launch-lineup was waaaaaay better- and now its even much better than PS4 + Xbox One combined. All those crappy things those “casuals” hype on PS4/Xbox One, i am going to play in 4K on PC- and we on WiiU-forums laugh about people which make a deal about such little franchises you overhyped! We laugh and put it in Bayonetta 2, the best game of 2014 when it comes to action. See? Theres no point for me to buy such PCs-in-a-small-box. I care about CONSOLES.
Not about PCs-in-a-smaller-box. I care about having as many cool games as possible.
I don´t know how much games you plan to buy this year. But for me i plan to buy 20-25 games for WiiU ONLY this year! And the year is alleady 4 months old i allready bought 5 games since December and of course some 3DS-games too! See? Splatoon etc etc- all those games announced are exactly what i want from a CONSOLE dude. And thus why i buy them.
We get a fantastic RPG, we get a cool Indie-Racing-game which isn`t even possible to run on a modern-day PC (its called FRN, its cpu-engine based with help of WiiUs custom 500 GByte/s eDRAM-powered graphics), we get cool big-franchise-Jump n´Runs (not that Indie-crap you guys have to hype up cause Sony/MS doesn`T make any real big cool Jump n´Runs anymore), we even get a Waverace-kind of game (yes an Indie, but its solid as Sonyfans are also hyping up the many indiegames for PS4 xD).
Right now- Sony has NOTHING BIG announced coming this autumn/winter- while that Uncharted 4 was delayed. And i doN´t think there will be big surprises for e3 for Sony this year.
I think Nintendo will deliver again- just like last year. And while the Sonyfans are going to put in that old Bloodborne again with its repetitive missions and cheap design, i will finally enjoy XCX, after that i am going to play another round of MK8, after that i am going to make a nice 60fps-race in FRN (yes they said they are going to show first gameplay THIS summer!)…and after that maybe some nice Indie-Waverace-action.
But forget about it- that Waverace-game won`T come out elsewhere – its exclusive.
While Xboxfans will maybe enjoy that Tomb Raider they get. And those other games announced like Fable Legends.
See? Right now i`m thinking about taking holidays for a year- since i don`T know when to play all those games i am going to buy this year for one console. 30 Games are planned and on my to-buy-list for WiiU. And 20 of them are 100% safe and won`T be cut out and they are BIG franchises. Not small crap.
The few things which PS4/Xbox One will get which are good (in my eyes) are going to be played on my PC (things like that GTA 5 when its cheaper and Witcher 3 maybe if i have the time left, but i don`t think i will have it).
And don`t forget- 3DS games and many New 3DS-games are also going to be announced. And there may be some nice surprises on e3 for 3DS/New 3DS that i would also think to buy then. If the announce a good next 3D-Mario for 3DS…hell sure i would buy it. Not saying no to such good games. And thats the problem for me: 30 WiiU-games (just a selection: Splatoon, Devils Third, a few indie-games like FRN and other selected to be considered good ones- and Starfox and Joshi and Kirby and others. Even Bizerta Silent Evil or Fatal Frame 5 will be bought.
See? 30 console-games in one year? That is overkill in my eyes. You would need to play through one of them in just…1 week. I don`t have that much time ever. And maybe that Zelda will also come back for late winter 2015. Who knows? Nintendo is allways good for surprises. You can be sure about it- Nintendo will deliver this e3. Project treasure is also big YES for me. I like such games.
I honestly don’t think they would have unless the Wii U and Nintendo had found a way to draw them in.
What this guy said. Look back carefully in the past since Wii U’s pre dawn, every last third party has been giving Wii U so much shit and yet, while calling it weak, THEY STILL MAKE AND PORT LAST GEN GAMES AND LAST GEN HARDWARE THAT HAS LIVED ITS TIME!
As for Nintendo themselves, they have dropped the ball on their own reasons. Wii U hardware isn’t one of them.
Neither did Nintendo. So why should they? Ubisoft was the WiiU’s biggest supporter, and they got nothing but fanrage after putting great games like Blacklist, Child of Light, Raymon (yeah, shitty moves around that) AC4 -fun as hell.
So your argument doesn’t really hold water for many of us.
plz stop acting like you know what your talking about u clearly dont who in the right mind will ever buy late rushed out ports of last gen games AS A LAUNCH GAME FOR A NEW SYSTEM nobody that’s who
**Disclaimer, this post was not to start shit with Stranga, I know he hates Ubi and I hope we can both just agree to be on opposite sides of the fence when it comes to Ubisoft. I won’t give him shit for slamming them if I don’t get shit for defending him…truce? ;D
Ubisoft is weird. Sometimes they really don’t know what they’re doing. Sometimes they screw up some of their games like Watch Dogs and Assassin’s Creed Unity. But other times they create amazing titles like Far Cry 4.
FarCry 4 was good. But amazing? Nope, dude. Seems you don`t know that amazing-games Needs Rating of 85% or higher. FarCry doesn`t even have solid 80%. Its “good”. Amazing. Amazing maybe, if you are used to PS4-games which have crappy Quality in common yeah.
I wasn’t even thinking about the ratings when I posted that comment… It was my opinion.
About your games listed:
Rayman- we all know how it turned out – and sorry but i think you don`t have the right to speak for real Nintendofans. I am such a real fan and i say many millions would have bought the WiiU if Rayman Legends was kept exclusive. But it wasn`t and i were Nintendo i would have sued Ubisoft for this (since it was a contract and you cannot just break contracts like you want, you have to deal with the consequences if you break them ;).
The other games:
Child of Light? Seriously? Sorry, i doN´t care about such games. Thats why you cannot be a real Nintendofan, you are only a “wannabe”-fan or a “Pretendofan” (good word-creation for such People btw). I Play games like coming Fast Racing Neo, or the right now “Affordable Space Adventures”, not such rpg-cheap-games like Chld of Light.
Next- Splinter Cell Bl- Well that was also not a good port at all. It was cheap in every regard and as such didn`t sold good.
Assasssins Creed 4- we all know that Pretendofans like such games. I don`t. Deal with it. I don`t like overhyped Sonyfan-games. I want my own games. And i get them now. You won`t get such games on PS4. Deal with it.
Nintendo is allready getting much Money again- Sony isn`t. MS doesn`T have to care about Money and the discussion Ends here right? Since theres no Point for Nintendo to Change anything. If Thirdparties don`t want to make games its their own decision. Nintendo doesn`t have to care because they have their own cool games and they have their own thirdparties ready just-around-the-corner (wait for e3, you will be surprised).
Yeah…cause Wii U is at 10 million users while Xbox One is at what 11 million? 1 million difference, big fucking deal…
You do realize the WiiU came out an entire year before XB1 and PS4 did, right?
You realize the PS4 and Xbox One had full third part support regardless of install base right? and none of those games were gimped.
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Did you even read the comment I replied to? Your reply gives me the impression you did not.
But since I’m having a good day, I’ll explain to you. :)
Originalbloodace said that the XB1 is only 1 million units ahead of the WiiU and that it’s no big difference, implying the WiiU is doing about as well as the XB1 as far as the sales go. But, he seemed to have forgotten that the XB1 came out a year later, meaning, it managed to sell as much as the WiiU, even though it had a whole year less time, which leads us to the conclusion that the XB1 is doing better than the WiiU, in terms of sales. So I reminded him of that.
That’s all. :)
Which makes no difference whatsoever because the lineup wasn’t great until year two.
Same for PS4/X1 in its first year.
Not sure what you’re referring to, but my reply to Gamingfan above might give you some insight. It was all about the numbers, nothing else. :)
That means nothing, the numbers between Wii U and Xbox One are similar. Wii U could be at 100 million, 3rd parties still wouldn’t support it.
And that’s because Nintendo owners don’t support 3rd party games. These developers had been burned many times, why should they keep taking risk? I love Nintendo but they are like Dictators when it comes to dealing with publishers and developers. These Devs and publishers jumped ship and I don’t blame them.
I feel like the Wii was the last straw that broke the camels back and Devs turned their backs to Nintendo. Low sales would deter anyone, so why is anyone even surprise.
Just one word: 100% wrong.
Please, elaborate.
I more mean that is how the third parties view it.
That is one thing I find interesting.
Cool story you Pretendo ass fan
Ok I actually look at fact instead of trying to defend Nintendo. I want Nintendo to better themselves not continue to do the stupid things they are doing.
Hahahah, you really are a “Pretendo”-fan. In fact Nintendo is doing cool things right now, while Sony and MS do “stupid” things. see? The Nintendo-games aren `t sued with 1 Bazillion bugs. They aren`t 70 Dollars or more. We have BC, MS and Sony does not. We have working Network, MS Fails sometimes, Sony Fails every 2nd day right now xD
Oh and btw- you can kiss your “Jaded Drawbones” and “god” goodbye. Facebook-victims.
What the fuck are you even on about? -_- are you making shit up again?
Nintendo gamers like CoD?
Who said they didn’t? No one has to be restricted to only Nintendo.
Yeah but….Nintendo fans LIKE COD? Why is this such a big deal that a game that is rehashed every year is skipping WiiU?
Because – so called “Pretendofans” (people which claim to be Nintendo-fans, but they aren`t – they just want Nintendo back like in 1980s thats why they think they are Nintendofans, they are simply stuck in the past ;)- care about them (since N64 was mostly about playing Shooters like Turok and others)- and they think they speak for all true Nfans of modern-days. But they aren`t. They simply are no NIntendofans in my eyes. They couldN`t even answer my questions which sort out trolls and such “Wannabefans” on Miiverse and these things are just there to make sure no idiots are in my friendslist since i don`t want to play with “Wannabefans”, i want to play with people which played all those games on the real console-hardware when i talk to them and i want to talk with people which accept that times do change and with those times, the world also changes and you cannot undo those changes and gaming won`t be the same as in 1980s ever again).
Btw: And that is also why they wine about the strict RULES they have in Miiverse. Because such “Pretendo”-fans didn`T have a Wii in 2006/2008, they mostly lend it or copied the games and played them illegally on PC via emulator (you can be sure about it)- they simply don`t know anything about modern Nintendo and maybe also had a Xbox 360/PS3 which enabled them to behave like idiots in their “PSN”/Xbox Live-forums. They think about the world is the same since 1980. But it isn`T.
Those persons will soon have to cope with reality. And the reality will be:
Thirparties are dying like flies (Konami is the next one to go forever)…Nintendo is going nowhere and still alive since ~110 years (think about it, Sony & MS simply don`T know what is goint to happen with them soon since they simply don`t have that experience which N has since 1983). MS has enough money to buy Sony tomorrow. They have also enough money to survive a possible crash. Nintendo is the same, they have enough money for such situations- and Nintendo allready knows what is going to happen soon not only in japan but worldwide.
That means: Nintendo is the smart guy in the long run. No one is going to care when EA, Ubisoft or other big ones are gone. The industry won`t crash because of those.
Indies will become just bigger then. Because that is what right now happens. Konami is going to be Indie soon (at least the leader is going to be, Hideo Koshima or what his name is).
A little disappointed in no Wii U release, but I may get this for PS4. It looks pretty interesting to me, although with Treyarch not even making this for Wii U it appears as though we may never get another CoD game for this generation…
Or the series should rather die instead.
BOOM ROASTED 2.0
I dont even care if you hate Call of Duty. This is a big loss for Nintendo.
No, it’s not.
We’re getting Devil’s Third, where we’ll get to make our own maps and have tons of soldier customization.
It’s a perfect replacement for CoD.
Not exactly. Activision lied about BO2 Wii U DLC that left the fans sour and turned away. Then Ghosts, unfortunately, happened and everyone even the little Nintendo fans left hated it and knew DLC was gonna skip again. This one, they already knew this would happen but it’s a bit alarming that the Wii U team decided to part ways instead of working on porting it. Whatever. COD deserves to die anyway.
Why doesn´t it make me wonder, that other “sheeps” like “namie”, “nostalgiaww” or “shadowvegeta” are liking your comment? You think that is smart? I tell you what: No it isn`t. Btw: Nintendo simply doesn`t care about Call of Booby. Deal with it. Live goes on. Well, i hope it does- for your own health xD
everyone already knows my clickbait news
That’s not a confirmation
So, “It is coming to PS4, Xbox One and PC, and it will not be ported anywhere else” translates to, “The game might come to Wii U.”
I don’t see that at all.
Oh well. It was fun while it lasted. Lol
Fuck C.O.D! Splatoon ALL THE WAY
Fact: your comment is pure damage control.
All he said was “fuck COD”. HTF is that “damage control” in your retarded state of mind?
Fact: you’re pure garbage
Fact: you’re a bitch boy XD
Fact: You suck at life you mushroom shaped head muthafucka lol
Splatoon is G-Rated, heavily gimped CoD, and Nintendo fans don’t seem to care. Splatoon could have been a game changer, now it’s a gimped game, but since Nintendo made it, most Nintendo fans don’t seem to care.
Ok, since some of you are excited about Splatoon, I’ll try to minimize my being disenchanted with it and stop pissing on your campfire, but I think Nintendo really hurt themselves.
Splatoon isn`t even in the same genre, dumbass! If you would be a REAL Nintendofan, you would know this. But no, you are just a stupid Boy, hiding your dirty teeth under some “Drybones”-Avatar to make others think you are a nintendofan. Go home loser. Answer my 3 Nitnendo-related questions in my FL than i will accept you as a REAL Nintendofan. Btw: Those questions are there to filter trolls and other “wannabefans” out. Persons like you ;) There are millions of People who Claim to be “big nintendofans” but afterwords it turns out, they aren´t as others will recognize their behaviour sooner or later. Too bad for you.
So again: Splatoon is a MIXTURE of Jump n´Run- PLatforming AND Thirdperson-Shooter. But you don´t win the game if you just shoot someone, idiot! Splatoon hasn´t even anything in common with stupid Call of Booby. Splatoon is more like a complete new genre. You only win if you spray the most area.
Thats not the games-principle of CoD at all.
CoD is more like coming Devils Third for WiiU- compare those both games and you will see:
– Devils Third will have the Option to make your own maps. Not buying stupid overpriced DLC. Being able to use the Controller you want. Not only using stupid Buttons and sticks, but also the Touchscreen and Motion-controls like its a Wiimote.
– Having a cool Story. Not the crap used in yearly CoD.
Wanted to give CoD a try, but well, no WiiU version means i dont will get it!
You failed Activision!
Jokes on you, they don’t care if you play it or not.
This is true. They still sell millions of copies every year despite the hate that you might see on sites like this. They don’t care if you don’t buy it because however many millions of others will. *shrug*
Another pony in unwanted territory
Brilliant.
those millions simply won`t be enough. Sorry dude.
But rising graphic-development-costs etc. Why do you think you have dotzens of DLC in-game today in such games? For Joking? xD You are a fool too if you think that is for joking. It is to make fools to buy the game and let them think “hey its cheap lets buy it”. Afterwords the find out instead of getting the game for 99,95 dollars they have still to buy 12 DLCs each 5 dollars to get the full game. See? Thats how it works. ANd enough idiots buy it.
But CoD is still dying slowly. The trend isn`T going upstairs but downstairs.
For Tomb Raider they needed 8 mio. units sold for profit. They did only get that after 6 months the game was out. The game nearly wasn`t a success therefore! Think about it!
CoD is much more expensive than Tomb Raider. You need more millions for this kind of game to make profit and success. Unfortunately the sales-numbers are heavily declining since years.
*cringe*
Jokes on you: most of us don’t feel like we’re missing out a single bit, thanks to both Splatoon and Devil’s third, two new and fresh games, while you’re celebrating yet another CoD.
Because of sales.
Which is sad.XD
Jokes on you, how am I celebrating sales l, especially when the game hasn’t released. I’m definitely not missing out thanks to splatoon, Devils third, and Bo 3. XD
Hasn’t released? You mean hasn’t changed since 2007.
You are a joke you pony ass prick
I think the whole “pony” thing is being overused on this post, but thank you for not using the term “gay.” In some ways, I feel like the trash talking on this site is slightly more civilized. :D
You should have said “News” to you. Sounds much better. And more precise. Since they simply forgot about Devils Third (which will be big, trust me, making your own maps, wow, when did a CONSOLE-game ever have such a feature in a shooter? I know of none) and Splatoon coming too. They thought CoD is going to have the free field for itself xD
Make it the other way round:
The more expensive games get (developer-cots etc), the more units must be sold to be successfull dumbass!
This means: COD is dying nonetheless. If he doesn`t buy it it means at least one buyer less and thus the probability of CoD dying faster is rising. Logic idiot. Seems you miss a lot of it. I guess your “nostalgia” blinded your mind, fool.
One person still doesn’t make a difference to a franchise that sells millions of units! What you said was literally retarded! They still don’t care if YOU personally buy a game! IDIOT.
Dumbass. Think about it: _What happens if he tells this to his friends? are you simple-minded? Don`t answer. Just one fact: News such like this spread like a virus today- in MINUTES over the whole world.
See it like coming “Starwars”- which was also overhyped. Until they heard the news:
No singleplayer, no campain, no space-fights, no…no…no…just NO everything xD
Now it seems the game is going to flop hard since people stopped caring. Well enough of them.
So you see? One person can evne make the revolution stupid idiot. Cause thats what happened in 1900s with Hitler. You know that? Hitler? The one Person which changed history? And you think one person cannot change anything? Hahahaha. Stupid prick. Keep watchting TV.
Another news for You: The same happened with Sims 4- which floped horribly for EA. The news about the game being really bad- spreaded like a virus within hours around the planet.
Even my girlfriend told her other girlfriends within minutes to NOT BUY THAT GAME. See? thats how it works. And you cannot know what he is going to do. But persons that tend to don`t like games tend to tell other persons about that “news”. And this means => hundreds, thousands, or even million of people will know about it- voilá thats called the internet my friend. Seems you missed that age.
Oh another thing about Starwars:
It was funny when they heard how much it really contains:
DLC for this- dlc for that- dlc for just 19,95- dlc for alltogether just 99,95 and so on. DLCfor everything is planned it seems. Peoples “Hype” died within hours xD Someone should say- dumb persons deserve to be treated like that. its their own fault. Don`t hype things like that, than you cannot be disappointed and want to kill yourself because of well => starwars is going to be crap again not the game everyone hoped for.
So you’re saying because this ONE person isn’t buying a game, it’s going to destroy the franchise? What an idiot! Millions of people will still buy BO3 idiot! XD think about it, dumbass. It’s proven with every COD game that has come out. I know you just hate cod just because you feel like you have to as a fanboy, but the truth is the truth. There will always be fans and YOU won’t make any “revolution” happen. You’ll realize this when you get out of highschool and into the real world, dumbass kid!xD
You simply didn`t read it. Read it again loser. Take your time.
“YOU won’t make any “revolution” happen.”- how will you know this? You cannot, dumbass. Btw- i`m much older than you, i allready learned IT since 15 years dumbass. You didn`t. Learn something and then come back then we can discuss. Your Name is pathetic. You truly are also such a “Prentendo”, am i right?
I know because thousands of people the past few years say they aren’t buying cod, yet millions still do. Try to THINK, dumbass. XD you are so naive
And worst of all, they wanted to try to make the franchise big again? lol by skipping a platform or two/three? Not gonna happen. GTA5 DESTROYED COD IN 2013. There’s no fucking way it’s gonna bounce back now. lol
The franchise is losing its strength but still has a large hold on people around the world. Definitely won’t sell GTA numbers but will still sell millions of copies.
I won’t stop a person from playing whatever they like but it’s a shame that some individuals only play CoD and games like it without giving unique titles a chance.
October and November are terrible times for games that actually try to do something unique and different to come out because they get drowned out by the same thing every year.
While that number is declining for the reasons dumbasses in the fanbase and Activision wanna ignore: Same crap, different year and skin with no real innovation in sight by light years.
That’s probably the reason why a lot of big titles move release dates. I remember last year only an indie title and a classic came to the PSN store the same day that Advance Warfare released.
This was never even Nintendo news in the first place, and there was literally 0.00001% chance of them releasing it on the Wii U.
“stop smirking at the back – Wii U?” Wow. Those people really think the Wii U is beneath the PS360 to even take it seriously.
>>>When they fall like the Atarians someday, we will smirk and laugh at their corpses>>>
They’ve been around since Atari, they might rehash titles but they’re smart about the work they do, they currently own 3 of the biggest selling game IP’s (or money pits what ever you wanna call it) they aren’t going anywhere any time.
>>>Probably, unless they start becoming like the other 2 big players>>>
Like who exactly? Sony and MS?
>>>No, the Electrons and Ubisians>>>
ah the other 3rd party giants. Ok I see, and I sort of agreed.
Hahahaha- News for you “GOD”:
Konami is also going to be gone soon. I tell you what: NO ONE is safe from it. You are just safe when you have enough CASH my friend. Nintendo has that. MS too. Sony hasn`t. See the problems rising? And its not only depending on Sony but also EA; Ubisoft and all other thirdparties which lost too many franchises the last 6 months- or made too many mistakes which lead to less profits/no profits at all.
EA has allready lost two cash-cows this year. EA is on the rise to go bankrupt the next lets say 2-3 years. They lost SimCity, the famous franchise- to an Indie-developer (SimCity is now considered as Dead, no one will ever buy it again)- and Sims 5 is also a no-go now since Sims 4 flopped like it was butter on bread xD
Well- you see? No one is safe from it. Enough crashes of games => no profit => too less cash to pay the things you need => bankruptcy. Just that easy.
And like i said- it happened with THQ a middle-publisher- and its going to happen with Konami soon when the leader Hideo will leave the company. He is goint to let it fall on the ground of reality like a hot potato.
What are you going to do about it? Prey? Or are you whining to sleep now everyday? hahaha. You truly are a god. A god of dumbness.
Great -_- but you know what? EA has the license to Star wars and Their sports games that are nothing but cash cows. Plus they have had nothing but profits even after the sims and SimCity “flop.”
Are you really talking shit without even researching? Yes I know Konami might not make it, but theyve been doing bad for years, and I mean years. Theyve lost talent, and have had nothing but shitty games in the last couple of year. Also, its not like Konami’s bread and butter is in Video games, you DO know that right? Or are you once again speaking out of your ass? Atleast look into the studios before you reply again.
I honestly dont even know why I bother with idiots like you -_-
At least we have Splatoon and Devil’s Third
Which I myself am buying BOTH of those games.
Then why in the hell are you raging in the comment sections against Nintendo fans while trying to aide these ponies and Xbots?…..smh
pink0crystal0midbus isn’t even raging in the comments section. All I have seen him/her do is comment mostly the truth without being swayed by unreasonable loyalties.
He/She can still be a fan of Nintendo games without brown nosing the company (or any other company at that).
I’m looking forward to Devil’s Third also! Here’s hoping it’s a decent game, because I’m def getting it!
I’m getting Splatoon but Devil’s Third does not look good to me. ;/
I might get Devil’s Third since it actually has the standards in place: VOICE CHAT and customizations. Sorry Splatoon.
Getting both. Devils Third is gonna be SWEET!!!
That too.
Wait is this a thing? Does Devils third actually have Game Chat?
If so, then I’ll reconsider and buy it.
It’s certainly not Nintendo’s game so of course it would come with it.
Well you just made a sell for them.
And BTW, WTF kind of avatar is that? If that’s what you really look like, I feel sorry for you. lol
Not at all, even on my real profiles I use these pictures. This is a perfectly time screen cap taken of Honey Boo Boo’s mother XD
You cannot compare those two games. Two complete different games, dude. But yeah, if you think like that then no one will stop you. Its your problem if you won`t have Splatoon in may ;) You know it also has a big singleplayer right? Its not – bam 3 hour-campain like CoD and you are through. It has a TRUE singleplayer-part. For me- since the singleplayer-part is mostly platforming/jump n´Run i MUST have this game.
The added Multiplayer-part is just a nice bonus to me. But i usually don`t play much online. I mostly play local in Multi, not online. And Splatoon is also going to have local-multi.
Sorry, not getting nickled and dimed by paying to play online so I’ll pass.
fuck yeah! CoD > splaton
Never heard of “splaton”.
Also, Call of Duty = Splatoon > Battlefield
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Oh well, I’ll purchase it on Xbox One.
Lets hope the next Call of Duty game gets released for the Nintendo NX.
The NX won’t be out by the time the next CoD rolls around.
You never know, doesn’t mean that the Call of Duty in 2017 will skip the NX
Well, I know th NX won’t be out in 2016 so the 2016 CoD won’t be on the NX.
Still, 2017’s CoD might be and that’s going to be Sledgehammer’s Advanced Warfare 2 game that year, so a possibility of it being a launch title for the Nintendo NX might be possible
Again- the NX IS NOT A CONSOLE. Are you really that stupid? I guess so. NX is going to be… they said- a combination to enable VC-games on one device. See? thats it. Not what you think stupid making another console- having 5 billion dollars loss for Nintendo (since no one would buy it, because no one would guarantee to make games for it, do you think developers are stupid? they would simply skip it since there is no => userbase of 10 Mio).
Iwata said- that the NX is going to be some device which enables you to easily play your VC-games on the go. And the advantage is – or should be- that you don`t need to buy 2 versions of your game, its all one version and for the NX.But thats it. Iwata said its not a console. More like a small handheld-device.
And again- Nintendo would be stuipd as fuck (as they would do the same as SEGA which got bankrupt becasue of this mistake) if they would release another console- with new tech- while the WiiUs tech isn`t even maxed out yet.
The WiiU is the PS3 of this gen. Having crazy customized tech, which won`t be easy to max out. You have 3 asynchronic cpu-cores and crazy customized fixed shaders and additonal shaders for thirdparties to enable cheap ports. It is never easy to max such a thing out. You need to make games from the scratch to max it out. And those games to make- takes 3 years. Thats why they only come now, and wasn`T out in 2012 when the console came out.
Consoles never come out with titles like new Zeldas or such big hitters. Its allways the same => some ports of old-gen-games, some remakes, some cheaper new games…and they all do finance the next wave of newer and graphically better games.
It took Sony and the other developers THREE years to find out how CELL is to be programmed and how to use it as a GPU, because the PS3-GPu was a very bad choice since it was slow and unusable for most games.
So again: The NX isn`t a console. Stop spreading that bs. You only will be disappointed. WiiU is going to stay if you like it or not. Deal with it.
Dude. The WiiU is going to be around the next 4 years. The NX is going to be a third platform. Not a console. Nintendo made that clear again the last 3 days. NX has nothing to do with console. It makes no sense to bring out a new console too- since the WiiU hasn`t even been maxed out yet. There is years of time left in it. The gen is going to be longer again than we all think. I guess the WiiU-successor will be out ~2019 or 2020. But not earlier sorry. Too costly.
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ok to me this looks fantastic i hate COD to lol. i’m a buy this. i don’t like the Wii U anymore. I’m on a Drought with no games on this console. i don’t like anything on Wii U. i just have one to hack The Wii Menu. I hate u Nintendo.
Boohoo. Nintendo hasnt had good 3rd party support for years, why does that surprise you? You sound like a spoiled brat.
Wii U currently has the best exclusives and widest range of amazing games thus far this gen. You want those third party rehash games? Buy another system like the rest of us did and stop your whining. I should be the one whining, my Xbone hasn’t been touched in a good 3 months. Arkham Knight better not be pushed back again. This gen for Sony and Xbox has fucking sucked. Good luck damage controlling that.
Sorry. For saying wii u sucks. I tryed monster hunter i brought it for $20 i dont like it. I tryed mario 3D world i hate it to. I tryed Bayonetta 2. To short. I tryed… Wind waker hd loved it. I’ve tried.. Er sonic and all stars racing loved it. And lost it… I tryed some broken third party games i ten percent loved it. The only game i play is smash bros for wii u. I had wii u sin e 2012 december christmas. When smash bros in 2013 got annouce, and it came out and i brought it, ive been playing it ever since. That’s. The only game i played ever.. Ever..
Buying a different system is not what you should have to do. Nintendo is supposed to have these games on their systems. If someone asked Nintendo if they could play CoD on the Wii U, are they supposed to just say “You can’t. You should go buy the PS4 instead to play it”? No. That’s stupid. Owning another system doesn’t make the Wii U’s situation any better. Not everyone can afford a second system and not everyone wants to either. Stop trying to make excuses for Nintendo.
News flash: everyone who has enough income to comfortably save up for an expensive PS4 or XBone, can afford to save up for a cheap second system like the Wii U, especially if they look online for good deals.
Gaming is an expensive hobby and has been for a while.
You don’t get into it if you cannot afford it.
And it’s getting two new and fresh shooters to replace CoD, which we all know by now as a series that isn’t as great as it’s sales to the casuals, or its marketing, make it out to be.
The cost isn’t my point. The point is that owning multiple systems still doesn’t fix the problem. It doesn’t matter if you own all 3 systems including a PC. Nintendo still needs to fix the third party issues. Along with all the other problems.
Nintendo doesn´t care about Thirdparties. And obviously- as the News Shows (Tadaa- heard about the “Thing” with Konami?)- ist better for them to NOT hear to what thirdparties have to think about them. Nintndo should make their own thirdparties and shit over all others as they are simply greedy and stupid and will never come back no matter what will be.
Ist capitalism. The man with the Money is making Money. Not EA, not Ubisoft. Currently Nintendo is making LOTS of Money again since Amiibo is a moneyprinter and- the WiiU-owners own much more games/per Person than a Xbox/PSfan right now. EA and Ubisoft isnt getting much money right now since their games doesn`T sell good enough (Watchdogs flopped, Rayman Flopped etc)- and their games are too expensive to get much Profit. See? Thats how capitalism goes.
Right now it means, if EA is doing FIVE another such mistakes they will be wiped from this planet. Amazon, Google etc are all much bigger and RICHER right now than stupid EA. Amazon could come tomorrow and simply eat EA and won`t give a fuck about what happens to stupid Sonyfans/Xbox-Fans which won`t get any more fifa then on their beloved consoles. Amazon and Google simply doesn`t care about such “persons”.
it has allways been like that idiot.
ON Wii it was the same!
Nintendo didn`t care about what Activision did! It was ACTIVISION ALONE which did make those fantastic CoD-games for Wii! They decided on THEIR OWN to make those games. On the N64 it was the same. Nintendo didn`t do anything to help them. The developer came by themselves because it was EASY to develop N64, Gamecube or Wii-games (see? Wii was the ONLY console to support singlecore-cpu, that means => much less developercosts and much easier to program it than a asynchronic three-core-cpu!)
It wasn`T Nintendo which came to them. And Nintendo also didn`t pay them. You are stupid if you think that is ever going to change. Nintendo just uses different, more advanced hardware- and will allways be- since the next AMD graphics-card gen is going to use HBM which enables them delivering bandwiths of 500 GByte/s in that stacked HBM-ram- the WiiU is having that tech since 2012- see? Nintendo does care about tech- but not just about having to put 1 Million watt into one console. x86 is so …1980s style. No one will use x86 in 10 years from now on. I guess most people on earth will use ARM then since most smartphones will ue ARM till then and smartphone-numbers are growing fast while netbook/tablett/PC are declining fast. And guess what? PowerPc is VERY similar to ARM-cpus you son of the stupid. X86 will be dead in a few years if Intel doesn`T find any solution to further shrink the chips. But right now moores law has ended for Intel in making CPUs. Since they cannot shrink them anymore- and thats also the case for graphic-cards right now. AMD & Nvidia are still using 28nm, since its too expensive to use 14nm right now. 14 nm will come…in 5 years from now maybe for mass-products. Than we will get a small boost. But 5 years from now…? xD Thats no moores law at all.
that “Skylake” cpus coming are only going to be about ~5-10% faster than Haswell. Big deal. No one is going to exchange its 5 year old-cpu for that expensive Skylake if its only about 15-20% faster since 2011!
Deal with it. PowerPC is advancing fast (Apple just ditched it to make it cheaper, since x86-chips are simply cheaper and easier to produce too), ARM is advancing fast. X86 is DYING. ARM right now is advancing so fast, that in 5 years from now- they could be able to beat the power of an Core i7 cpu from 2015! Yes, that is no joke. And that is because – moores law for ARM hasn`t ended. Btw: Modern PowerPCs, like WiiUs or in general the ones from IBM use even better caches today than INTEL itself has them. IBM provides its own eDRAM which is used in WiiU, too. Intel doesn`t have fast eDRAM for their own mass-cpus.
In fact- RISC-cpus are the future of even supercomputrs. Scientists know it. x86 simlpy is unable to communicate efficient with more than- lets say 8-16 cores. Theres amdahls law, if you never heard it => you can only use 8-16 cores efficiently, if its more up => more overhead for each cpu-core => much less performance. Thats why they think DX12 is the solution. But it isn`t. DX12 cannot magically connect 128 cpu-cores on a single die.
But if you use 1000 risc-cores, put them on a single die and make the chip big enough to fit that many cores on them- each of the cores has a “router”-unit to communicate with others- and if you then use a few of these chips in one rig…you get TFLOPS of computing-power- with just a few Watts wasted (instead of hundreds/thousands watts needed for x86-supercomputing)- and with much less costs for that thing since its => cheaper in general. See?
Look here thats the thing i speak about:http://www.adapteva.com/parallella/
And this is just a simple 64-core-version. Soon we will have working 1024-cores on a board.
So its 90 Gigaflops (about typical performance of a modern-day Core i7) timed 16!
Yes, this means you will have 90 x 16 = 1.44 Teraflops! In just fucking few watts instead of having to put 1000-cores into racks, each put into a whole cupboard- being a room big etc.
See? The future isn`T about big supercomputers which draw megawatts of power. Its about having more efficieny, having everything going tiny again, putting many thousand cores into one die- being able to deliver TFlops with just a handful of watts. And ARM-cpus (or risc in general, including PowerPC) is able to put over 1000cores on a die, put them together via routers, let them communicate…giving a performance of 1.44 Teraflops just for the CPU! Think about it- 1.44 Teraflops is nearly the performance the PS4 gets right now in theory…and with its ~150 watt-GPU!
See? Thats the future my friend. Not wasting 1000 watt for a cpu wated cooled at 5 Ghz alone. Ghz is not everything. The future is about cotes, like they said in 2000/2005. The problem is: X86 isn`t able for core-scaling. The core-scaling for x86 will end with 8-16 cores if not with 8. Thats why Intel hasn`t brought 8-cores for massconsumers allready. Simply because => doesn`t bring much more performance. No game makes use of it. no App uses 8 cores. See? Thats another problem.
But one last thin you should know before i end my “lesson” her for your amateur-IT-knowledge:
Moores law will also depend on ARM-cpus or RISC-cpus in general. IN a few centuries from now, ARM-cpus or RISC will also be limited to- lets say 14nm or 10 nm and thats it. Then you cannot shrink them any further. You will have to find new ways…or the IT-advancements are going to decline.
Thats how it all goes. So better say bye to x86. Because its dying fast. Soon, billions of devices will use tiny arm-cores- and those will be more powerful than Core i7s today.
Btw: One last thing: Yes, you can allready order such cpus. Costs is about 500 dollars or so, ist cheap. But you have to have good IT-knowledge to make your own use of it. Right now there are no programs which can make good use of it. But the tech is here!
HAHAHA your loss
Then you clearly bought the wrong console. You simlpy don`t buy Nintendo-consoles for cheap ass Creed, batman or other shit like that. You can play such games even on smartphones today. What is the sense of playing batman which is hyped like crap (and that is why you can see that Sonyfans aren`t Nintendofans, they use the Word “Hyped”; which nintendofans did never use, bad for you huh?)- which you can play on smartphones too? Smartphones are more powerful than you think. You can literally play everything on such mobile devices today.
I have 30 games to buy for WiiU this year alone. Bad luck for you. You should buy the PS4 if you are crazy after crappy thirdparty-games filled with DLC and Pre-Order-Bonuses xD
I would have bought it on Wii U… Black Ops 2 is very good. A great FPS on wii U would be awesome it is also very cool to have the second player on multiplayer use the gamepad so the other can have the whole TV. That is the shit and I wish it was like that on Mario Kart
It isn`t like that in Mario Kart 8, since 720p with 60 fps on the TV- plus another 480p is just too much for a console to handle. Not with this graphics. You either would have to kiss the fluid 60 fps goodbye (that means hello 30 fps for both TV AND Gamepad) or you would have drastically downgraded graphics. Thats how it goes. No magic. Just logic. And remember:
This is just considering about graphics! What if the cpu is allready limiting? It would be even more heavier for the cpu and thus you might only get 25 fps (maybe) instead of 30 fps. Who knows? Just theory!
Sonic Racing has the feature because the graphics are simple, the game doesn`T run with 60 fps and many limiting things are in this sonic-racing game. Just that simple.
I don’t think that is the case at all actually. It should be totally possible, it just isn’t like that
I have a PS4 anyways. I didn’t even pick up AW on PS4 and I may not even pick this up either…I have BOII and Ghosts on Wii U which I still both play and love. I’ll be kept busy I’m sure with Splatoon too! :)
Big deal. Wii U is too good for the likes of CoD anyway.
How would this have appeared on the Wii U anyway? The time for underpowering a game just to make it appear on an underpowered console is long past, mostly because of the disservice it would do to both the game and to the people who play it.
Splinter Cell on the original Xbox destroyed the PS2 versions so what’s your point?
The game already looks like the Last Gen game, so really there wasn’t much upgrading in the graphics department.
This site is still people hating on Nintendo, and not letting fans have fun stating their opinions.
ex. “I like splatoon more!”
“You suck.”
it would always be that way sadly the people here are pathetic
Funny that you don’t comment about he people that hate everything that isn’t Nintendo. “I like cod a lot!”
“You have bad taste hahhaha you like shooters and mature games?!!?! Hahhah”
im sorry but if u like COD then u do have bad taste period but i couldn’t careless if people like it or not
You have bad taste because you don’t like cod. See how stupid it is to say someone has bad taste?
But people with bad taste do like COD. That’s a fact.
Nope. Taste is all opinion.
could careless what u say in my opinion people who like the rehashed series that is COD has bad taste in games
Sadly, we got some Nintendo fans hating on other Nintendo fans when they say how they don’t like how Nintendo is not going to use voice chat in Splatoon & won’t be buying it because of it.
“I don’t want Splatoon anymore because it doesn’t have voice chat. The game sucks now!”
“NO, it doesn’t! You SUCK!”
*facepalm*
When I was at high school no one talked about Nintendo. It was always about the Playstation or Xbox. What does that tell you? The Sony and Microsoft fanbase if full of teenage children.
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Everyone in elementary talked about Nintendo. What does that tell you?
more adults actually play on nintendo consoles that children and was proven true what does that tell you ?
All Nintendo consoles are marketed towards kids. What does that tell you? XD
That’s not how I see other platforms when I heard a shitton of kids voice playing a game they shouldn’t because their parents are failures of the generation.
You won’t have to worry about that with splatoonXXxDDD
It does tell me- that the demographic failed my Little Boy.
That means => Xbox and playtstation target grown-ups, but in fact 80% of the People there are just Little Teenagers and even children of just 8-12 years.
While People for WiiU get the real mature games- even if Nintendo aims for children. You think mature guys Play CoD all day? hahahaha- let me laugh about you. No, my Little friend. Mature People have their lifes after them, the childhood is gone. They don`t Need shooters 24/7. They Play things like chess or other more casual-styled games. Only if your dumb and you never learned to stop playing such games and/or if your gaming-behaviour hasn`t changed yet, you still aim for shooters 24/7.
And yes, i decide for Nintendo, since i don`t want to have people like you on my platform. See? I mean people in form of “just a wannabefan” or just a Teenager, screaming into the Micro. I don`t care about such things. I just ignore such peoplee. And since PSN is full of such idiots like you- you will never find my there. And Xbox Live is also full of junk-eating People, screaming into the Micro. See? I don`t have to care, because it doesn´T happen in my community. Deal with it, no one of the real Nintendofans wants to have anything to do with you.
And ist fact- PS4 is the new casual-console of this gen. You won´t find such games like on WiiU there. And yes, i also do have a PC to play the good multigames you sonyfans do Hype up to heaven- such as GTA 5 or Witcher 3. And if these fail i simply would ignore them. I don`t have a PC for playing only. I am also working with it,, my friend. See? Ever heard of the word “work”?
I know that most Sonyfans don`t know what the word “work” means, they think that LetsPlay-videos are real work today. Wow. how amazing. So automatically you fans are telling me a Football-star getting 5 Million Dollar per year for ist real hard work is comparable with….a fucking youtuber, doing some Videos and getting the same Money per year? See how flawed that logic is?
This is the stupidest comment I’ve read in awhile. Please stop, you’re making me laugh. You really are a sheep to Nintendo. XD
TL;DR so you know what ever gamer is playing? I never said anything about cod being immature, but it isn’t. It’s rated M for a reason. And what “mature” games are you talking about? And playing shooters doesn’t make you a little kid or a teenager. I’m laughing at you because you have no clue what you’re talking about. You’re mad at me because you feel insecure about owning a wiiu. Hahahahaha we all know adults don’t care about who plays what, because we are mature and aren’t loyal to a piece of plastic, getting butt hurt and fighting with others over video games. Grow up kid XD
Really? Where was this documented?
search it up you’ll find it
officially by Nintendo my dear. They have numbers for this.
You saying it doesn’t make it true. Legitimate sources are required.
You can search for it on your own. You are grownup and have enough time to do it. Why should others make the work for you? Are you lazy? The numbers are official, dumbass. They came directly from Nintendo. Most persons which own the WiIu are older than 18 years. Many are even 25-30 years old.
I did search for it. No verifiable sources. If Nintendo actually proclaimed this, I’m sure I would have caught it from one of my many sources inside Nitnendo or from the PR emails I get on a regular basis.
Additionally, the original statement was not directed to Wii U only, “more adults actually play on nintendo consoles [than] children”. I have yet to see facts to support this claim.
I’m not saying it’s wrong but I would like to know where the statement comes from other than someone just making it up.
>>>Intelligent humans talk about Nintendo, what does that tell you?>>>
but wait…I thought it was just a conspiracy that 3rd parties don’t support the Wii U.
This isn’t cod this series has turned into halo unrealistic future bull shit should go back to world war 2
What’s wrong with being unrealistic? This is basically Deus Ex crossed with Titanfall
Translation: COD has run out of ideas so they “borrow” from another franchise or two..actually, make it several”
Translation: Damage controlling because I wanted CoD on Wii U”
Actually the only GOOD COD left, which ironically is several years older, that I love and want is the MW trilogy.
Oh shit. I hate to say it, but you guys are selling me on BO3….
I has 4 player Co-Operative multiplayer as well.
Graphically, the game looks last gen but gameplay wise, it looks fun
that’s why i stopped liking it COD isn’t supposed to be a TitanFall rip off
Which Titanfall ripped off COD and then the other way with AW and now BO3 ripping off Deus Ex.
YESSSSS, I totally agree. Even CoD makes better use of the gamepad than Nintento…I was so fucking disappointed that MK8 was split screen, while Ubisoft (blacklist) and BO2 actuslly made good use of the gamepad.
That too pissed me off that MK8 didn’t use the Gamepad for alternate split screen play. That was totally lazy and same goes for Smash Bros. touch screen via menu selection; like how fucking hard is it to use the touch screen for menu/roster?!
But the BO2 use the Gamepad I never thought it would be use before like that built in sensor bar and using the Gamepad as a smaller TV while Wii-Remote goes injunction with its sensor. That was fucking genius and I applaud them for that effort but what ruined Wii U BO2 was the lack of DLC and Activision lied about Nuketown 2025 coming until 2 fucking years later.
You cannot have running Mario Kart 8 with 60 on both- TV and Gamepad. Why? Because 720p with 60 fps – and 480p with another 60 fps? Not going to work, sorry. No console is powerful enough for such things. Not even the WiiU with ist Special tech. It would have to be graphically downgraded or it would be 30 fps only. But i wouldn`t use Mario Kart 8 on the Gamepad, if it would be only 30 fps.
Tell that to Treyarch when they pulled off the same thing but bigger for Black Ops 2 and more.
Doesn’t anyone not care about a natural disaster upcoming in our poor nation of Mercia?
Also the music is awful where I am… DON’T ASK! -_-
This new terminator game looks cool
“It’s the beginning of a new generation”
What are they suffering from, 3-year lag? The new generation started in 2012.
Good to see they’re so committed to supporting it that they’re ignoring and entire third of it.
let’s say some random TV show in the future, that goes to show a “real” gamer and all that he has in his game library are Battlefield 1-99,
Call of Duty modern black combat ops advanced and Assassins Creed Brotherhood of the greedy frenchman and say like thirty shooter games more………..
……Sad……….
Well, here goes my last hope for 3rd parties. I can’t believe I fell for this trap even after I was sure that they were never coming back.
Nintendo has ist own Thirdparties on the boat -ready to deliver at e3 this year. Forget about crappy Activision, CoD, EA and Ubisoft. Simply Forget about them, because soon they will be gone and no one will care. FRN is going to wipe the floor with most big franchise-racing-games this year.
First COD that looks interesting.
Not coming to wiiu.
Luckily I have a PC, I may get a PS4 thou.
Im glad i got rid of this overpriced Underpowered console called Wii U,its an atrocity that Nintendo charges $300 for a console thats weaker than a ps3,bad online infustructure, no harddrive and no 3rd party support, lol im happy i sold it and bought some ps4 games with the money, im happy Nintendo is kicked to the curb,they will learn not to release a overpriced Xbox 360 with a useless gamepad and call it a 8th gen console when its a 7th gen console, I see no new games coming out in 2016,e3 is going to confirm that this piece of shit is a dead console.
Not weaker than PS3 as proven, PSN is actually THE current worse game online service next to Live being a ripoff of what PC has and more for free, even if Wii U has the HDD and third party trash, their games; also on PS4, will take up so many storage space within 10 games which is pathetic.
And funny part about this is you call Wii U “inferior” but overlooking how many last gen games were ported on “next gen” consoles that looks and plays exactly the same. lol
The WiiU has some amazing games you can’t play on other consoles. I can’t imagine you got much for it. Sorry to hear you folded, It’s an inexpensive console for the entertainment it provides. (which is limited in between big releases, but even so)
Another bites the dust. No more so called “dedicated Wii U team”. Assholes…
I do feel a bit let down they didn’t let Treyach port it. :/ I really enjoy Zombie Mode.When I want some mindless fun.
No matter. COD is dead or dying anyway and this looks more like AW/Deus Ex mashed together. Still nothing interesting and I don’t like this futuristic crap.
Killzone > Call of Duty
*raises flameshield*
They both suck, should’ve invested your money in some decent games instead of an imaginary shield.
The Killzone series has been pretty good overall. Shadow Fall was terrible though. Pretty graphics and little more. It was a disappointing entry in the series for sure.
Can’ say I’m surprised. Anyway, does anybody really gives a damn about COD anymore ???!! You know, other than the 100 million people who only buy/play COD ….. I forgot where I was going with this …
Mildly disappointing. Would’ve liked to have seen what they would have done with Wii U version, maybe. I’d mostly expect gimping anyway, whatever. I’m building a PC this year anyway. I’ll be enjoying Xenoblade, Splatoon, Guitar Hero Live on my Wii U.
Ok honestly why do you even report on this. There are games that are obviously not coming to the Wii U. Not hard to recognize a trend
For dem hits baby! But seriously, this kind of stuff gets more attention than actual Nintendo related news most the time.
I’m amazed at how many people who have no interest in this game being on Wii U, feel the need to talk about it so much. Ah well, tis the life we live.
Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Some of these Nintendo game articles only get about 6 comments, and I’m pretty sure they get a small amount of clicks. A 3rd party game gets an article and these idiots go ape shit and still wonder why this “trash” gets reported on.
Eh, as if the pewpewgunsbefun casualswould be caught dead playing Wii U anyways. Their majestic e-peens of overcompensating masculinity would wither and die.
Splatoon> CoD (who cares about voice chat? The internet is full of grumpy old trolls like CoD gamers) *prepares thousands of Link’s Sheild*
Oh no, whatever shall we doooooo?
the only thing and make any first person shooter appealing is if it has the Wiimote controller attached to it otherwise it’s boring to play oh well at least we got black ops 2 and ghosts I enjoyed playing those 2 games on the Wii U more than every other FPS game out this generation simply because controls are not dated and I hate call of duty
Geez guys, calm the heck down. If it’s not coming on Wii U, then it’s not coming on Wii U-End of story. Simply put, that’s that. And I dare someone to tell me that I’m wrong with my thought process. Maybe I say this because I have never cared for FPS games and I only own a Wii U this generation. For 2 main reasons-1.Mario Kart 8, Smash Bros, Mario and Zelda. 2. It is the cheapest of the 3 consoles and therefore, more cost efficient.
It also has the best exclusives and best games in my opinion too. The Wii U is my number one go to console in the house. I do have a PS4 and own 4 games on it myself. My brothers own a few more but that’s it. I own 21 Wii U physical games, seriously! lol
I even own 30 WiiU-games allready. That is more than i ever had for any Nintendo-console before. This means – for me the Wiiu has the most suited games ever. I like it. Ist my main-console also. I am not going to buy Pcs-in-a-box this gen.
I own a good bit more games from the eShop that I downloaded. Yeh the Wii U has a fantastic range of games for everyone to enjoy!
It’s only $50 less than the Xbox One and Nintendo games keep their $60 price tag far longer. Just sayin.
£100 less than both where I live.
And…? Thats why you buy more games first, not after 5 years when ist in the bargain-bin for ~5 Dollars- gaming isn`t about playing 100 bad games for each 5 Dollars in a year- ist about buying 1-2 games per month- having about 20 per year (and that is much!)- andt hose are really gems, not bargain-budget-crap. Good games are having good Prices. Thats how it goes. seems you cannot deal with that fact? Also think about it: WiiU-games are much cheaper in average than PS4/Xbox One games. There is NO game on WiiU to cost 70 Dollars or more. Most even cost still 40-50 Dollars. But if we include the DLC, the calculation for Nintendos games is even far better. Call of Duty plus 5 DLCs á each 10 Dollars = 120 Dollars. What does Splatoon cost? 40 Dollars? Plus 3x 12 Dollars for the Amiibos…yeah you can truly see the difference there. And Devils Third won`t have DLC and will have the Content of TWO fullprice-games- and will cost only – you guessed it- between 55-60 Dollars.
Anyone got Modern Warfare on PC? Installing it again to play the Battlefront Mod B)
The only chance of me buying this game was if was going to be on the Wii U since now that’s not the case, I’m longer interested. No Nintendo support, no money from me and I don’t give a flying fuck who doesn’t like it
I bet your mom is happy though about not having to spend her money and all.
And I bet your mom will be happy when she stops catching you beating off to those Seabiscuit movies you pathetic ass pony lol
Go and look up some material on google or something. There is no reason for these lame insults.
There is because persons like you aren`t wanted on this site. Go back to your sony-sites dude.
Looks like I’m not getting at all since I will never buy a PS4. PC is possible but slim.
This just in!
Call of Duty: black ops 3 is STILL not coming to Wii U systems!
Lets get some more coverage on that Tom!
That shit was lame but then again so are you
Not half as lame and weak as that sorry reply bro. : ).
Bwahahahha..all the comments here :D
No surprise here. Of course it’s not coming to WiiU. The WiiU would explode trying to play this game anyway.
You should be used to shit exploding………..like your male blow-up doll when often try to ” poke ” it you sick bastard LOL
You remind of someone that I used to hang out with when I was a kid. He always had the worst jokes and he could never stfu either lol.
Lol and this is coming from someone, who names itself “chunk”. Translation: Junk. Garbage xD
CRysis 3 was running on WiiU- with 1080p (without Gamepad-3D-content). And you say fucking CoD is not running on WiU or it would explode? How dumb are you? Fell for mass-media-lies, haven`t you?
The first Unreal Engine 4 game is coming soon for WiiU, stupid Sonyponies. Take this fact!
I think I actually might try this one. Although I haven’t really cared much about these games, the Black Ops CoD’s have always been more interesting to me than the others.
I believe that Treyarch is the only team that can make a decent COD these days.
The absolute ONLY reason the Wii U is failing (according to big mouths all over the internet) is because of third parties abandoning the Wii U. The Wii U would be thriving, possibly even beating the competition, if third parties weren’t avoiding it like the plague. Though I’ll never understand the appeal of COD. What a piece of sh**!
Now that I own a PS3 (can’t afford a PS4) I’ll admit that it has many good games. Games I once made fun of. But still……..I can tell that the GOOD games are very limited on it. And it just doesn’t have the charm that Nintendo’s consoles provides. I know I’ll eventually go back to the Wii U after I play the batches of PS3 games that I bought. The ONLY thing that the PS3 has that I wish the Wii U had is the custom soundtrack support. It makes such a huge difference using custom soundtracks in wrestling games and such.
Skyrim is the best game on PS3. The two Arkham games a close second. And your right, it doesn’t have the charm of a Nintendo console. Fanboys can diss Mario all they want, but there is a certain allure to playing a good 3d Mario game.
The two Arkham games on PS3? But there’s three…
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Is it on Xbox 360 :(
No its running on dated hardware as far pc standards are concerned
COD is a piece of shit rehashed franchise. Run, shoot, run, shoot, run, shoot. Real innovative. Not many gamers over the age of 15 who are going to care about missing out on this one.
Oh well, I guess I’ll still playing black ops 2!
Is it just me or does this look just like Advanced Warfare? Geezus Christmas, whoever buys the COD game every year is a dope. It’s the same game with different skins. They use the EXACT same character and terrain models, and the EXACT same engine. It’s the same game. Every COD game since Ghost could have been DLC.
Guys all we need is a PC. Stop hating on every console
Only reason I will eventually get a PS4 is to sate my fix for those sweet, sweet JRPGs. (along with some oddball titles, a couple of SCE owned series and physical copies of games that were originally downloads).
I liked the original Xbox, it was the 2nd system I got in the 2000’s after the Cube. I tolerated the 360, but wasn’t really a huge fan. When Microdicks pulled their asshatry and tried to require the Xbone to be online all the time and not allow the resell of pre-owned games, I was done with them, I lost any kind of respect I might have had for their systems.
Thank god they at least changed their policy after the backlash and now I have seen a couple games I would like to play for the Bone (like Killer Instinct, Dead Rising 3, State of Decay and whatever Rare is working on), but I will not even consider buying their console until they do a 2nd model or at least remove the requirement to go online to download the patch to play offline (obviously it wouldn’t be a problem for me to get the patch, but its the principle of it) and even then out of spite I would probably just pick up the console pre-owned from somewhere.
I’m done with PC gaming, Steam ruined it for me. I still play some WoW and I am constantly picking up older PC games to play, but as far as PC gaming is concerned, I pretty much view it like an Atari 2600 or other older system, I can still buy old games for it, but I probably wont ever play anything new on it.