I’m sure you are all now aware of Seattle cafe owner Ramar Larkin Jones who has been hit by a massive lawsuit by the Pokemon Company for throwing a fan enthused Pokemon party. Jones was only charging $2 for entry to the event which went towards things such as competitions, etc. Well, today it has emerged that the Pokemon Company has had their team of lawyers revoke the settlement.
“We had agreed to a settlement. Once the story broke on motherboard we got a email saying they were pulling the offer because I was bad mouthing them tho I was not. The lawyer I was working with is trying to get them to put the settlement back on the table so that we can be done with this entire thing. we should know by the end of the day. We have the emails going back and fourth where their lawyers say we have a deal.”
Thanks, Retrogaminglord and MasterPikachu6
Poor guy, Nintendo is trying to make up for all the lost revenue on the Wii U.
Damn!
Unfortunately, this kind of misinformation drives me nuts, but Nintendo =/= Pokemon Company. Pokemon Company is god awful with this sort of thing. Nintendo I don’t think would have any problem with this. The Pokemon Company is owned by Nintendo, but they hold most of the controlling interests of Pokemon and often have huge restrictions on what can be done with the Pokemon IP.
For example, in Smash Bros. Sakurai has stated its actually difficult to work with even the Pokemon Company due to the way they function. Anything the Pokemon Company does like this has nothing at all do with Nintendo, and certainly nothing to do with the Wii U (the Wii U has even actually made a profit now, so they haven’t really lost revenue on it, though they didn’t make MUCH of a profit off of it).
The Pokemon Company is technically owned by Nintendo, but they are a lot like a third-party in regards to how they treat the Pokemon IP (barring the fact that Pokemon is exclusive to Nintendo platforms). Its a really weird relationship the Pokemon Company has.
Uhh hello! Nintendo does not own the pokeman companie they only own 33.33% of the pokeman franchise/trademark. game freek, pokeman company, and nintendo are all seperite but just wrok closelee twogether !!
Wow! Ben Sanders. You’re still around? Haven’t seen you much lately.
Oh no, it’s that guy again…
You’re only half right. Those three companies don’t own the Pokémon Company. Instead, the Pokémon Company are an affiliate with them. In business terms, that means that they are an independent company that shares a relationship with a bigger one.
Incidentally, Creatures Inc. is also an affiliate of Nintendo…
That’s true, but you have to understand, game freak is owned by Nintendo.. So yea…
No, they’re not. They’re actually a fully bonafide third party company. The only reason why they seem to be owned by Nintendo is because they’re better known for making Pokémon than for their other games.
Case in point, Click Medic and Tembo the Badass Elephant are games released for the Playstation 1 and Playstation 4/Xbox One/PC, respectively. Both are made by Gamefreak. They also released Pulseman for the Sega Genesis.
So, Nintendo is a bad parent and can’t control it’s kids, yeah?
as far as I know, it’s over a year since they produce Wii U without losing anything
That is if people actually buy the console…
keep lying on that side
like it or not, the Wii U sure does not succeed as the Wii, but the console is far from dead and yes, there are sales
Hey, I’m not hating. I’m just stating a fact, if an item doesn’t sell, it doesn’t matter how cheap it is to produce. The console’s situation is very close to the GCN’s. Nothing more than okay sales, but amazing software!
It’s all fun and games until someone gets sued.
>>>And in most cases, the sued party is to blame because they don’t know how laws work>>>
But the ones suing don’t have to ruin a man’s livelihood to prove a point. Unless you like the idea of them being the Umbrella Corporation.
>>>Then he should have thought about this sooner, this is why humans are stupid, they think with their emotions and greed, not their logic>>>
Considering how much you despise humanity and all the stupid things we do, I’m shocked to see you care about some of our retarded laws. To me it doesn’t make sense.
Being a computer, you’d think you would automatically side with what is more logical, not what is written to be, by humans. And no matter how anyone tries to spin this, I don’t find anything logical about suing people over fan thrown parties.
>>>You’re right, I don’t really care, I’m merely pointing out how your reality looks like>>>
>>>What I find amusing is that you humans have several laws you don’t like because it’s inconvenient, others that break these laws regardless of them being logical or not, and then the ultimate point, these laws exists first and mostly because the humans that likes to profit from others’ creations began long ago>>>
>>>The only reason to why most even have a problem with these laws today is because of the ever expanding social networks that thrive everywhere and because of the ever open minds humans are developing>>>
>>>Ironically, humans are also being enslaved by this new modern world and their leaders proportional to the ever more “awareness state”>>>
Ironically, for a computer, your grammar is terrible.
>>>Except there is nothing wrong with it you imbecile>>>
Lol “bad mouthed” dude only told the truth.
He wasn’t supposed to speak about it at all. During a settlement of any kind, you are not to speak of it publically until it’s over and done with. Honestly this guy seems to me like he is a fucking idiot that can’t keep his mouth shut…
Christ. It’ll never end for this poor guy..
What’s a real joke is the fact many people all over places like Craigslist, Etsy and eBay sell Pokémon merchandise without a license to do so, you’d think hunting those people down would be much more important than this poor guy.
There even used to be some guy who posted a bunch of shirts he sells with Nintendo characters here, he doesn’t have a license to sell Nintendo merch, yet he still does in mass and no one is bothering him, nor is the Pokémon Company.
Who? Chris Chan!
What is a Chris Chan?
The guy who created Sonichu. XD
You just wasted 1 minute of my life, looking up what that was… -_-
Lol.
Hey you told me who the guy was. I didn’t expect you to lyrically look it up on Google. XD
Exactly the point I’ve been making in this kind of news since forever. Thank you.
You’re welcome :D
Well, he did try to host a cheap event near a pricey official event
Oh & lets’ not forget the fact I’m sure there are a few scalpers on those sites trying to sell Pikachu, Greninja, & Jigglypuff amiibos for outrageous prices.
OMG. :( What crap they are putting this guy through anyways? :(
I have lost more respect to the pokemon company..
Idiot. You don’t mess with THE Pokemon Company.
At least the guy won’t have to pay over 5k.
I can only imagine what they’re trying to achieve with this mess. all they’re doing is just losing fans.
I have lost so much respect for the Pokemon Company. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. They just look like a-holes now.
My thoughts exactly. But apparently SOME people on here (such as Kevin Wong, who seems to think he’s an attorney at law) thinks differently.
This man has been doing this for five years, ignored C&D orders, has a personal relationship with the owner of the venue where the events took place and had a stake in catering them.
Plus, he has already raked up more money than he needed to pay the settlement.
All he needed to do was lie low and negotiate a payment plan, instead he purposefully took to the media to bait ignorant fans into giving him more money by tarnishing TPC’s reputation.
From everything I read he never got a cease and desist letter. So if that’s the case, how could he ignore something he never received?
And don’t you think The Pokémon Company could have easily stopped this event in a much nicer manner, and saved face amongst fans who do not agree with them doing this. Like simply asking the guy to sign an agreement stating he’ll never throw another Pokémon themed party again, typically what much larger companies do to such small cases such as these, but I guess The Pokémon Company doesn’t have that kind of decency.
They’d rather gather their measly 4k with the 1.5 billion they make every year. Yep, it’s all this guys fault for tarnishing their reputation… LOL.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/07/stupid.gif
So petty.
And damn you, lol. For forcing me to make yet another login… Although I completely understand why you did it, thank goodness for things like Lastpass and RoboForm.
>.<
Aw, still not edit feature even with being registered -_-
Or is there?
No edit. It’s like real life. Once you say it, you can’t un-say it. XD
D:
Least Miiverse let’s us edit posts/comments! … Oh wait!
I’ve still to this day never even used Miiverse, to comment or anything like that. Not a fan of places that are monitored with an iron fist.
Pretty sure I’d be banned from it, if I did use it. Lol.
Exactly why I barely use Miiverse these days. I use it to talk about WWE when watching Raw, Smackdown, and their PPVs and for liking, in the case of Miiverse: yeahing, drawings. After I do those things, I distance myself as far away as possible from it. Sad because it use to be awesome when it first started. Then the god forsaken updates of 2014/2015 started rolling in. But before that, it was harmless drawings getting flagged & deleted for being “sexually explicit” when they were fucking suggestive at best. Never have I seen a site so rife with body shaming well endowed female characters. Good thing they don’t run Facebook or otherwise there would be a lot of famous cosplayers getting their accounts banned because there are quite a few well endowed women posting their cosplay pictures on the site. Hell! There would be a few non cosplayers getting their accounts banned because a lot of people do post bikini & one piece pictures on there, too.
Wait, when I read that, I thought by them withdrawning it, they meant they were like we fucked up sorry to waste your time, your free to go……guess not…
The idiot is gonna get sued for ratting out to the Popo media. You never do that unless you’re a murderer or Chama Leicester!
Or you are completely innocent & getting wronged & hope the court of public opinion will save you from the bullies you can’t take on by yourself.
*sees title*
Oh, the Pokemon Company is dropping the whole thing?
*reads article*
Aaaaaaand now they have gone full retard.
Yeah, you had a deal, until you started to talk to the media and demonize TPC, but don’t worry, just keep robbing the idiots who are donating to your “cause”.
And this is why humanity is dead!
What, because money is valued above all else in life? Yea, tell me about it, humanity has long since been dead when they started putting more value in paper and shiny objects.
I don’t know if you are seriously agreeing with that guy or not, but if you are, then that was some heavy sarcasm towards your comment if you didn’t sense it.
LOL, demonizing them… Really?
If this guy would’ve said nothing, it would not change anything. Plenty of people will still think this is a pathetic attempt at proving a pointless point.
They have bigger fish to fry, and this is not going to stop any of the people out there who are actually making a profit off of using their material without a license to do so. Even from The Pokémon companies view point it seems like a total waste of time and resources to be going after such small people like this.
They do it to themselves by continually going after people who are clearly no threat to their business in any way.
And you can’t rob someone if they’re willingly giving you their money. You can still think they’re idiots all you want for them doing so. But there is big difference between robbing and giving, these people are giving him money, he isn’t robbing them by forcing them to.
It wouldn’t have changed anything but the settlement would still be in the table. I don’t know about anyone else but every time I read anything about this the guy he always tried coming off as a victim.
I don’t like that, he did something wrong (illegal) so he should own up too it. No one forced him to make money money off this event, he should’ve talked to the Pokemon Company and arranged something, but no, he didn’t. Regardless of how this makes me feel about the Pokemon Company, what he isn’t right.
*what he did isn’t right.
Throwing fan themed parties should be illegal. Just trying to make enough money to cover the cost of the prizes in the party or the things you have running in the event, should be illegal, too.
Fucking scum, who does he think he is…
You’re wrong, what should be illegal is suing someone over a fucking themed party. By technicality alone if your going to be so harsh about it, they should be suing every child that throws a Pokémon theme birthday party and receives any money at it. It’s the same concept.
Why are you guys ignoring that he refunded all the money, and cancelled the party immediately. I mean if this guy was honestly this shady and such a whiny bitch, don’t you think he would’ve said fuck them and thrown the party anyway, chalking up the court fees later? Instead of trying to do the right thing by realizing that he made a mistake by charging for the party, cancelling it, and giving everyone their money back.
You people sound so heartless it isn’t even funny. And shit, I thought my heart was nothing but a charred piece of coal by now, but damn you people are being ridiculous over this.
Anyway… Isn’t that how court cases work, one party always plays the victim until we actually know who the real victim was. Even then you may never know the full story unless you knew him personally or knew every plan he had when making this event with a 2$ cover fee.
mm, true, I Still dont believe him though. Specially after that GoFundme campaing that he started. Maybe its the way that I was raised, but Ive never asked for help with anything, specially in a situation were I knew I got myself into. Heartless as it is (and yes I know it is) its just the law. Abide by it, or get dealt with by big daddy.
Well since my comments are awaiting moderation, I’ll try again.
First of all, in any case like this there is always a victim. Whether it be the company or the person they’re suing. He has every right in the world to show how displeased he is with how this went about, whether you want to call it whining, or wanting attention, that’s all up to you.
What he did was right, regardless if the law says it was wrong. There was actually nothing wrong with that he did. That’s the problem right there, nothing he did was malicious in any way, and he clearly made it blatantly obvious it wasn’t about making money from their name since he refunded everything and cancelled the party, which he didn’t have to do. He could’ve kept the money, and he’d still be getting sued right now.
What isn’t right, is this copyright law, and all it covers. There needs to be a fine line between actual infringement and people simply throwing fan themed parties.
I guess that’s you’re right to follow every law even if it doesn’t fully make sense, but there is nothing wrong with anyone complaining about it, or people who are capable of looking outside of that. As I said to Deepsouth, if people followed every stupid law, the world would be a much worse place right now. Just think how many times in history people had to fight against ridiculous laws, so we could have a better future. And here you guys are saying it isn’t right for people to do this, they should just shut up and stop being such attention whores… That is where I completely disagree.
Yes, this isn’t that huge of deal this one person, but I’m thinking of the bigger picture and anyone who could have this happen to them. Not just one person, and it isn’t right for people to be sued over things like this, it is crossing a line.
I was picked for jury duty, my very first Jury Summons, this week, got picked to be on the Grand Jury, & the ADA working on the case we were given that day flat out said sometimes common sense & the law are at conflict. The words straight from a man of the law, no less, said this to us! Anyway, that’s all I’m gonna say on that subject as we all know jurors are not allowed to talk specifics.
At least not til 6 months or til the trial is over.
Damn that sucksssssss. I hope for your sake the trial finishes long before 6 months.
Yes. It’s gonna be so hard not talking about it. The pain is already setting in. *tear* >.< Luckily, I'm pretty good with secrets so this is nothing. So glad we won't get called back til April. And so glad I wasn't picked for petit jury because I hate the idea of being one of the people sending someone to jail, or prison, even if there is a chance they are guilty. That & the hours required for that type of jury duty! @.@
This guy has hosted a Pokemon themed party for years at one of the biggest gaming events in the world without permission. He charged money at the door to enter the party. I can assure you with 100% certainty that the Pokemon Company has warned this guy before. He has more than likely become a thorn in thier side. He has probably ignored the warnings. The fact that this guy had a settlement worked out, and then went on to cry and complain on the Internet just to gather sympathy, made me lose all respect for this guy. He broke the law. Own up to it. It doesn’t matter if there are bigger fish to fry. Have you ever been pulled over for speeding, only to tell the officer that pulled you over that EVERYBODY was speeding too? The cop say, “I can’t pull them all over!” What do you do? You pay the ticket and move on. You don’t cry like a baby, and try to fight it… I was speeding, even though everyone else was too, I’m the one that got caught. Own it.
Out of context, obviously I’m capable of understanding they cannot sue everyone doing these types of things. That is clearly not what I meant. I simply said it would be better to go after people that are truly harming their image or making a real profit.
I can use your analogy right back at you. If a cop sees a person going 10 miles over the limit, and someone going 50 over the limit. Who should that cop focus on pulling over first?
That right there is my entire point. And as I said, The Pokémon Company would be getting a bad reputation for this regardless, even if the guy had not said a word about it on the internet.
And yea, I’m sure this dude is just so evil, I mean just look at that slimy bastard… I know he was raking in the profits from that 2$ door fee (that was refunded). /s
And how can you assure me with 100% certainty. Do you have a statement directly from The Pokémon Company saying those exact words? Last I checked they refused to make any comments on the matter, I’m open to being proven wrong, but it doesn’t seem like you’re sure of what you are saying.
As said yourself, you assure me with 100% certainty, yet you then completely contradict that entire remark by saying “He has probably ignored the warnings.” Probably doesn’t sound like 100% certainty to me. So which is it, did he probably ignore them or you know for a fact he ignore them?
Do you even know if he charged for the previously hosted parties? I don’t, and maybe this was the first time he decided to charge for it.
In actuality though, do you honestly think they let this guy do this for 5 whole years without doing anything about it? Especially if they sent him multiple cease and desists letters? That doesn’t even sound logical, any other company would have sued him after he ignored the first one.
I also made it pretty apparent that I would have been fine with all this if that was the case, but it doesn’t add up. You don’t send someone cease and desists for 5 whole years.
So I tend to believe this guy for the time being, saying he never got any cease and desist letter. Until you can see what both parties have to say from the courts information, you cannot say otherwise, either.
You people are also trying your best to paint this guy out to be some monster for fuck sake. He refunded all the money after being told about this, he cancelled the party, I mean what a god damn money grubbing monster. /s No shit he is complaining about it, why wouldn’t he.
Knowing all this, it was completely unnecessary for The Pokémon Company to take it this far. The guy got the point obviously, and he did everything to rectify the issue, and they still want to prove nothing other than being assholes about it.
I could even understand if they asked him to stop, and he threw the party anyway, but he didn’t. Anyone agreeing with this is just being a total dick about it. How you can’t see there were plenty of ways The Pokémon Company could have went about this in better ways, is totally beyond me.
And screw you sheep abiding every single dumb law in existence, not to say you are one specifically, I’m just speaking in general. A lot of the law is retarded as shit. I don’t give a crap if it’s written on paper somewhere, if it doesn’t make ethical sense, I’m not going to follow it.
I mean do you really want to talk about abiding every law, really. I mean at one time there were laws in existence for human slavery, and I bet there were people just like you defending how important it is to simply follow the law, even when it doesn’t make any sense.
This was a fan party, he wasn’t selling marked up Pokémon merchandise inside, they are even listed as unofficial themed parties, letting everyone know The Pokémon Company are not responsible for it.
I’m not trying to make this guy out to be a monster. Hell, I’m sure he’s a great guy. Fun at parties and everything. But he was hosting a pokemon themed party at a major gaming event, and charging people at the door to get in. Doesn’t matter if he was charging 50 cents, he was still charging… And ok, no. I cannot assure you 100% this guy has been warned over the past five years. But it seems a bit strange that the Pokemon company would let him get away with it for so many years without some sort of warning… You keep saying the Pokemon company are assholes, and your right, they are. They are a company. A corporation. The only thing different between them and let’s say, State Farm, is the product they sell. Have you ever known a billion dollar corporation to be friendly? To be fair? No. All corporations care about is money, and defending thier product. That’s why this guy is an idiot. He was going up against a corporation, expecting to win. He reached a settlement with a corporation as long he kept media silence, and he went on and broke media silence anyways. Sorry, he deserves what he gets.
You are going out of your way to defend this guy for some reason. Yea, your right, many laws are stupid. But we have to follow them, or pay the consequence for breaking them. Don’t cry and whine about it. That gets you nowhere, as we have seen with his settlement.
I got pulled over a few months back for not having a red flag on a ladder sticking out of the back of my truck. The law is it cant stick out further than four feet without a red flag attached. The ladder was barely at four foot. So the cop wrote me a ticket. 120 bucs. What an asshole, and what a dumb law… But did I cry, whine, and try to garner sympathy from strangers on the Internet about it? No. I paid the ticket, and went on with my life.. Even though I felt I got treated unfairly by an asshole cop… Sometime life sucks. Suck it up, and move on..
Your cop stories are totally your prerogative. What is annoying me, is that fact that you think people complaining about how dumb laws are is unacceptable. What is unacceptable is your attitude in thinking that people have to bend over all day and just take it.
How could anyone have the audacity to ever complain about the problems or ignorance in the world. /s If you want to call me stupid, do you realize how dumb what you’re saying sounds?
That was the entire point I was making with the whole slavery law bit, if people didn’t express out loud to other people how dumb some of these laws are, they would never change. Just because you don’t have enough gall to go against what you disagree with, doesn’t mean the rest of us have to hold our heads down and do the same.
The point your making to me is not a good one at all, you make yourself sound like a very weak minded individual, who willing accepts defeat. What you’re saying to me is this. People like Martin Luther King, Jr are wrong for out crying to the public how wrong a law can be? You are basically saying people need to just suck it up, and let the government ream them everyday, just because it’s the law…
“Sometime life sucks. Suck it up, and move on..” Screw that! If all the people who have made a big difference in this world said the same thing you did, can you imagine the horrible atrocities that would still be happening today? When life sucks, you sure as hell can do something about it, more of matter of how brave you actually are. Sad to see you think otherwise, but again that is entirely up to you.
I’m not defending this guy specifically, either. I’m wasting my time writing all this to make a greater point, in defending the rights of all human beings in regard to this matter. And no person including this guy should be sued over something like this. Or have to ever deal with something so petty, and I would wish the same for you as well.
I’m also not saying the entire Pokémon Company are assholes, I’m saying they are complete assholes for bothering with something so harmless. And there isn’t any way it would have affected them negatively, that I can assure 100%. You can try to counter that, and I promise I already have a counter point for everything you’ll say that will prove otherwise.
And no, as I said earlier, plenty of larger companies have a done a better job at handling situations like this. For instance Microsoft for Christ sakes, let me repeat that, Microsoft… They said did not care if you had a pirated version of Windows 8, they said everyone gets Windows 10. And here is The Pokémon Company suing some little guy over a fan party for 4 grand.
Anyway… I think this argument ended right when you said you could assure me 100% of what you said, and now you’re saying you cannot. If you can’t even get your own facts straight, not much point in continuing this further. I mean I have no problem with people making mistakes, but when you tell me you know for certain, only to tell me the complete opposite afterwards, it makes it very hard for me to take anything you say seriously.
So let’s just end this here, and say we disagree.
These are the same things I tried to get through to that thick skull of that imbecile eminem123! that if people didn’t complain, the world wouldn’t be where it is today. If you bend over & accept every wrong in the world & do nothing to change it, not even at least complain about it, you might as well strip your clothes off & go get herded into an animal pin like the rest of the sheep.
Sure actions speak louder than words but words shouldn’t be underestimated either. Especially in today’s society when we have the awesomeness of the internet.
Very true, words can have a great impact, also. Maybe not for everyone (as we can see here, and even throughout history), but for those willing to listen, it has the possibility to bring forth a group willing to help pursue that change.
Sometimes, something as simple as acknowledging that a problem exists, is considered a type of action towards a step in the right direction.
Amen, preach!
And wtf is that line about me defending a slavery law? You sound about as stupid as this guy throwing the “unofficial” Pokemon party… Geez…
Michelle? Stupid? *tries to keep a serious face but bursts into laughing* Like Namie & Pother, Michelle is one of the smartest people here. And they don’t kiss a company’s ass even if they do care about said company. You shouldn’t defend a law that you think is bullshit simply because “it’s the law.”
I don’t defend a law because “it’s the law”…… Ohh ffs never mind. You obviously only read the “Michelle stupid” and jumped to conclusions…
She maybe smart, but you are far from it..
Aw. Are you mad I’m not bending over for Nintendo & their greedy, corporate partner The Pokemon Company? Tough. The Pokemon Company are assholes as this story has made abundantly clear and are no better than those assholes at King. It’s time to fix the copyright laws because it seems to me The Pokemon Company AND Nintendo are abusing it every chance they get. First Youtube & now this bullshit.
Can you read what I said again, comprehend it correctly, and not take it out of context? Maybe then we can get somewhere, cause you keep doing this.
When did I say you supported slavery laws? Quote me saying this, please. Go right ahead and do so, cause I never said that. I used it as example of people like you defending dumb laws like this guy getting sued over a damn fan party, laws that exist that do not make much sense, and you abide them just because they’re laws.
If you had children, and the U.S. just made some crazy new law that you had to murder your children due to some reason, I guess you’re the type of person who’d be like “Okay, guess I have to kill my children now. It’s the law after all.”
I mean seriously, give me a break with that crap. You can’t be that mindless, can you? And yes, that was another extreme example of you defending retarted laws, if you happen to take that out of context as well. I’m not saying you would do that, I’m just using it as an example that not every law made, should even be a law. Or they need to rewrite these laws so they are more reasonable than this.
I have no problem with them doing this if they had sent him a warning, but it is highly unlikely they sent him letters telling him to stop for a entire period of 5 years. Even you must find that a little odd, wouldn’t you say?
You keep on with your belief that I defend laws because they are laws, when I clearly gave you an example as to why I don’t. My prerogative or not. I don’t think people have to bend over and take it, I’m just a realist! I’ve been there, whether you would agree or not means nothing. It’s fun to talk about fighting the system in chat and on forums… Yea, it is…But you fight a ticket in court in real life, well have fun losing or spending more money than the ticket cost in attorney fees. Oh, but I’m not brave. I’m a coward because I don’t agree with your nonsense. And what about MLK? Jesus Christ girl. I’m not even going to go there.
Ok, moving on…..
OUT OF CONTEXT?
You said and I quote… “There were laws in existence for human slavery and I bet there were people like you defending”… Yada yada yada….
So you could understand why I would take offence to that right? And YOU have the audacity to say I took it out of context? For someone who is supposed to be one of the smartest people on this forum, you are not impressing me at the least…
Anyways, I forgot what I was even argueing about. It doesn’t matter really, tomorrow will be another topic. Just admit you are wrong please. Because you are.
I’m going to try to be as nice as I can about this, because I can see you seem a bit confused about the statements you yourself have made here. It seems you have a habit of saying things you don’t necessarily mean?
And I won’t admit I’m wrong, because I’m not wrong regarding this subject. And if I was, I would gladly admit so, just like I said multiple times already if this guy received warnings for so long, then yes, he created his own problem in that sense. Although it still doesn’t make the law right, in being able to take copyright infringement to this level. My ego can live with being wrong. I did not learn as much as I have in life, by always being right.
You forgot the rest of the quote, you can’t cherry pick my words and end them where you want to support your mistakes. Prefect example of you taking my words out of context, as the full quote was this “I mean at one time there were laws in existence for human slavery, and I bet there were people just like you defending how important it is to simply follow the law, even when it doesn’t make any sense.”
So to make it even more clear, I specifically said people “like you”, not you. Which you took out of context and somehow turned it into me saying you defend slavery laws. That does not mean you did support them, does it? I said there were people “like you” defending unjust laws that are clearly wrong, the same as this, with this dumb copyright umbrella law. To make that point that you should not be defending laws you do not agree with, laws that are wrong and being taken advantage of.
And even after describing in great detail why I didn’t specifically say you’re defending slavery laws, you still don’t get it. I included you into a group of people who defend laws that are unjust and just accept them because they are told to do so, that was all. As I said, I use extreme examples, to make an extreme point. I didn’t say you believed in slavery, I didn’t say you defended those old laws. I said your actions are relatable because of the fact you choose to just “suck it up” when you even agree that they are assholes for doing this, and you literally agreed in saying not all laws are right.
You are right about consequences. Again that’s been my entire point and the obvious difference between you and me, just like the consequences this guy is facing. I’d rather take those consequences any day, rather than just pony up like you are suggesting. You may feel it’s okay to do so, but I don’t.
And again, if you didn’t get the whole MLK thing, after all the things you said about people needing to just shut up and move on… Then again I don’t know how else to describe this in any simpler terms. Sure, none of this will or ever be as big as things like slavery were, that wasn’t the point, I’m not comparing the two in that sense. It wouldn’t matter what historical figure I used as an example, either. I really hope you understand this now. The point was that no man or woman should just sit down and shut up, simply because they’re being treated unfairly. And that’s exactly what you said people should do.
And my belief is only based on how you presented yourself in this argument. You’re the one who makes yourself look that way, I’m not the one writing what you’re saying. Maybe if you didn’t come off so submissive with all the stories you told, let alone telling people they should just suck it up and move on, which literally means do nothing about it, not hard to see the context there, I honestly wouldn’t be harping on it.
And true, maybe that isn’t what you meant exactly, but that’s you’re fault for wording it poorly then, just like when you assured me %100, only to change what you meant afterwards. I’m guessing you also didn’t exactly mean that people should shut up and do nothing about the wrong doings in their lives, but unfortunately that is how you said it.
Everything I’ve written is in complete context to what you’ve said yourself. I know my examples are absurd, but that’s exactly why I’m using them, because the statements you made about people needing to just accept defeat in life, is absurd to me.
Argh… *perfect…
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Well I sure hope they don’t ever start looking at other countries because this shit is rampant throughout the rest of the free world. They only go after Americans because they know they’ll actually get something.
I guess TPC will lose the rights to the Pokémon IP now, since they didn’t crush the guy in court after all!
Seems like their case wasn’t as strong as they thought. And I laugh at the idea of TPC thinking they’ve been badmouthed. There’s a difference between being influenced by what the accused party has to say and considering this kind of persecution a shitty legal practice in the first place.
To all the people who are essentially saying “What the heck” concerning the Pokémon Company’s actions, we don’t know the whole truth. We only heard from this one random guy’s comments. Whenever what he actually says is true or not has yet to be proven as we neither have the evidence nor witnesses to confirm that he’s telling the whole truth.
He doesn’t have to bad-mouth them though. They unfortunately are just looking like dicks on their own… It shouldn’t be this big of a deal. Unless this guy got rich off the parties I feel like hitting him with a cease and desist type of deal would’ve made more sense then all of this. But this is how the internet works sometimes. You take legal action against a fan without explaining WHY you needed to and the internet peoplez will flame you on message boards and lose some respect for your company even if they still buy your products. Maybe they’re right in their lawsuit and just don’t want to put this all out there in the public but it doesn’t matter. The internet looks into things like this and judges them based on what they see, and from what’s gotten out they look like they’re kind of being dicks. :/
Here’s hoping this is all resolved rather quickly for both parties involved though.
I’m waiting for more info. If this is false, guy’s being a drama queen for attention.
If it’s truth, TPC people are being complete douche bags.
Even then the full truth may never be known.
I’m just basing most of what I say on the fact the guy didn’t continue to throw the party, he cancelled it upon hearing of this, and refunded every single dime he had gotten back to everyone. To me that doesn’t seem like he ever had any bad intent by charging for it.
And I personally think The Pokémon Company wouldn’t be getting trashed on right now, if they took all of it that into consideration also. I just don’t see the point in suing the guy for money, do they have the right to stop him from throwing these parties, by law, yes (although I don’t fully agree with copyright laws.), and they do for money as well. But my entire point has been that they didn’t have to be so harsh about it, let alone even when he owned up to it, offered to pay them the money in a year, given his financial circumstances… They refused.
I just don’t understand how anything this guy is doing is making The Pokémon Company look bad, everything they’re doing is making themselves look bad.
The Pokemon Company is a billion dollar corporation. The guys lucky he only got sued a few thousand dollars…
Lesson learned. Never throw a Pokemon themed Halloween party & ask the attendants to help pay for the pizza! I’m glad this came out before Halloween or the Pokemon Company would have their hands full over the weeks after Halloween suing a lot of poor people that can’t afford to pay their outrageous fees.
The Pokemon Company is making sure to scare everyone now before Halloween, so they won’t end up being even bigger monsters later when they go after everyone that can’t afford to fight them & end up on the streets having to use homeless shelters for food, water, & a comfy place to sleep because they charged a few cents/bucks that didn’t even go into their own pockets.
Welcome to reality, everyone! The reality that we’re already living in a world where companies are the masters & we are the slaves! No. Fuck that! I don’t feel welcomed. In fact, I have four words to say: FUCK THE CORPORATE WORLD!!!
LOL!
That’s what I was saying. It sounds so stupid, because it is, but it’s literally the exact same concept. That is the only point they’ve proved by doing this, and nothing else.
Like I said earlier, but I don’t think it got posted due to it awaiting moderation or maybe it did, can’t keep track of all the crap I write… What is next? Suing children at their themed birthday parties just because they may have gotten some cash as a gift… Lol.
I can see it now! A swat team of lawyers kick their parents’ front door down to slam them with a subpoena! lol This is funny now but if we’re not careful, this could become an actual thing some day. Even worse, there won’t be a subpoena & the kid will just go straight into some handcuffs & taken off to a prison without due process or a trial and finally sentenced to death the next day by firing squad or some other excessive punishment bullshit.
LOL.
I hope this guy comes out and admits he was in the wrong eventually. Your gonna have so much ass kissing to do.. LOL.
All you people defending this guy have no idea what it’s like to run a business.
If the Pokemon company didn’t sue this man, he would throw another party. He would give free license for other people to copy and replicate him.. The Pokemon company simply nipped it in the butt… A wise, smart, stern business decision….
Get over it.
Yea, I’m so sure this stopped people from throwing Pokémon themed parties. About all this did was stop people from throwing them publicly. LOL.
And that was the whole point. I don’t think TPC ever believed they could stop that, nor would they want to. Believe it or not, TPC (in my opinion) does not want to stop people from throwing parties. They just don’t want people to throw parties without thier permission at one of the biggest gaming events in the entire world, PAX. Very few events are larger than PAX when it comes to video games. They like to have complete control of their advertising. Like surgical shotgun blasts, they aim thier advertising where it would reach the most potential customers, and be cost effective simultaneously. This guy was messing with that balance. They don’t care about private parties, I assure you. (I assure you is really just a figure of speech, at least when I use it. I know how you like to take everything so literal) And if it turns out they do, then I will side with you.
And another thing. Where are these unjust laws that you are rebelling against? …….. IP protection? Surely you are for IP protection…? Right?
What’s your argument? That a company can’t sue someone for using thier product? Or is you argument based more on morals? Your so all over the place I don’t even know what your argueing for anymore…
Of course I believe in the right for people to protect their brand or IP’s. You must not be reading much of what I said if you have not understood that by now.
I disagree with the fact the copyright law can extend this far, that is my gripe, parts of the copyright law that I feel should be illegal to enforce. A fine line between infringement and people appreciating the brand with fan themed parties. Because when it does become a blanketed mess such as this, it ends up being ridiculous in all the things these people could sue someone over.
Things that are causing these companies no trouble at all, or ever could, and clearly didn’t for the previous 5 years he threw theses parties.
The Pokemon Company is doing exactly what they have to do, ya daft quack. Do you know nothing of the real world? Do you have no life experience? Seriously. You sound like someone who has never left the house…
They have a product, they have to defend it. So they sued a guy for 5k, holy shit. What a bunch of demons. Let’s shit on them forever..
Where does it stop? A guy throws a party. A guy sells a glass. A guy make a blanket, etc. etc… Where do you draw the line?
The reality is, at some point you have to draw a line. And when that line is drawn your going to look like an asshole. Your going to be an asshole. But it had to be done to protect your company, your product… It was a line that had to be drawn. Some people will understand, others will cry, bitch and whine….
>.< I understand. I understand their greedy assholes & they need that 5k to go on top of all those millions within 30 or so days or they are going to go under. Payment plan? What's that? Oh is that a way to not be assholes & put this guy out of business? Well they can't have that. They have to bury this one little guy charging a measly 2 bucks, probably only making a couple hundred bucks, if even that, to put him on the streets to make an example out of him. He was told to stop & he did. He said he even gave refunds back to the people that attended. Yet here we are. He's being forced to pay way too much in too short a time. That doesn't come off as asshole-ish to you? He's already been made an example. Just let him pay the money in small payments. That way both him AND The Pokemon Company can come out of this looking good. Instead, only the guy being bullied by a corporation will walk away from this looking good. But oh no! They got to have that 5k now or The Pokemon Company is doomed! Well they'll get their money… from people willing to help this poor guy out.
Congratulations, The Pokemon Company! You've won! No one will ever try to throw a fan party again! In fact, you'll now be forever known as greedy assholes that we should never cross or you'll try to bury us too! Enjoy being tyrants! It's sad that EA & Microsoft look like saints in comparison to you, douchebags!
“Some people will understand, others will cry, bitch and whine”
Here you go again… Just when I thought we made a tiny bit of progress in agreeing on the issue to some degree, you still have to treat people like shit for simply wanting to stand up against dumb things like this. Why is it whining, crying or bitching, for standing up for what you do not believe in?
You’ve totally lost me now. Mainly because you agree with everything we’ve said in that it isn’t right, which you’ve made that known to me in your responses, you even agreed in saying they are assholes for doing so… But at the same time you’re still defending the The Pokémon Company having the right to do this. And once again, the law may say they do, but it doesn’t mean for one second that all of what is written in this law is right.
That’s what kills me about of lot of these laws, they’re so old most of them. Why our government doesn’t make more of an effort to update laws so they make more sense with what goes on in today’s world, not in 1976…
Hell, the last time they revised it before then was 1909… As if this doesn’t prove my point that I’ve been trying to make this entire time…
I’m not treating anyone like shit. I can just be a bit mellow dramatic sometimes, especially when logic is on my side.
I understand where your coming from, I do. And I actually agree with you. (You know, my prerogative cop story?) Many laws are dumb. But if the President of the United States, and the good for nothing lousy ass Republican run Congress can’t fix these laws, how in the hell do we have any chance? I made the point that I could have fought my ladder ticket, and probably won. But at what cost? Five hundred dollars? A thousand? This guy (going back to topic) could fight TPC, or he could come to grip with reality. You learn that in life. You want things to change, you want to make things better, but reality usually whips your ass. Yea, not very inspiring I know. But I never claimed to be a motivational speaker.
Nobody’s trying to steal EA’s/Microsofts IP’s. LoL. They have nothing to worry about.
And why is this guy “poor”? Why do you feel sorry for him? He knew what he was doing was wrong. He knew it was illegal, yet he continued to do it anyways. Whether TPC sent him letters or not. And on top of that he had a deal worked out with them if he kept media silence. But he was too stupid to do that even. Sorry, but nothing poor about this guy. He is an idiot.
Im honestly burnt out on this story. I could care less what happens at this point…. Hopefully the guy involved learned a good life lesson. Maybe the TPC learned as well from the backlash they are receiving….
LOL… Even after all this, I absolutely love how contradicting your last statement is.
“Hopefully the guy involved learned a good life lesson. Maybe the TPC learned as well from the backlash they are receiving…”
LOL. Only life lesson to be learned here is to be aware of how bad corporate greed can be.
There’s nothing contradicting about what I wrote. Of course corporate greed is bad. But…….. Oh never mind. If you haven’t gotten my point by now you never will.