The CEO of Stardock, a software development company, has chimed in with his thoughts on supporting the Nintendo Switch. It would seem that we won’t be seeing much support from Stardock as he’s a firm believer that he hasn’t seen a lot of success from non-Nintendo studios. CEO Brad Wardell recently had an interview with GamingBolt and had the following to say on the matter:
“No, [we] probably [will] not [support the Switch]. It’s too different than any of the others, and there isn’t a lot of – I haven’t seen a lot of third party success stories on the more recent Nintendo hardware. Nintendo, is a great market for Nintendo, but I haven’t seen a lot of huge hits made by non Nintendo studios.”
Wardell also spoke about Nintendo and their lack of need for third party support due to Nintendo’s IP:
“Nintendo doesn’t arguably need third party,” Wardell said. “You think about the Mario games, Zelda, I mean, there’s plenty there. I mean, if it was a $1000 game system, maybe I’d care. But as it stands now, there is plenty to play with on the Switch, that’s just fine.”
Stardock are best known for computer programs that allow a user to modify or extend a graphical user interface as well as personal computer games, particularly strategy games such as Galactic Civilizations, Sins of a Solar Empire and Fallen Enchantress.
Not like I play their games on PC either. They’re too different and well, mediocre to me.
Just like the Switch huh?
Since when did people call the Xbox One the “Switch” ?
Since never you retarded thing.
Awe, you know English. Im sorry.
Ikr it’s pretty useful.
Damn, you know English yet use petty insults? That’s adorable
You know there’s this thing called a period, you should try using it.
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You shouldn’t correct someone’s English if yours isn’t perfect. For example, in your first sentence, “awe” should be “aww.” And you missed an apostrophe in the word “I’m.”
Damn that burn, someone get a Burn Heal over here!
Then why don’t you make a game for the switch? Or are you too lazy too? Why do you care about what other people do? So what if they don’t want to make a game for the switch? Why are you so butt hurt?
Why do you keep asking stupid questions? Why don’t you shut up? Why can’t you quit strawmanning? Why? Why? Why!? WHY!?
Because fuck you, that’s why.
This retarded bitch motherfucka has returned huh, up there getting destroyed in the comment section with his lame ass
I hope you realize that I give ZERO fucks. So keep getting buthurt I don’t give a shit lmao.
https://youtu.be/ItpdL9_RKvc?t=1m31s
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AWWWWWWWW!!! YOU GOT MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
He really did. XD
You’re retarded. 😂
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Ma’am I think you need to simmer down.
Says Anubis, the Douche-bag Whore.
Boy if you don’t go somewhere else with that corny ass gravatar…
Anubis, the Devil Dog I will always remember you for being a dumb f*ck
And I’ll never remember you, you insignificant thing
Haha fighting with the locals again bro?
Yup, they never change.
Don’t go too hard on them haha.
I’ll try, but I can’t guarantee you that :P
Well people don’t play as much PCs games
Im glad to hear that and I hope nobody supports nintendo so they stop doing stupid things like believe they have the control over gaming when they not. I do love nintendo and I hate them for not making enough nes minis Im really pissed off fucking idiots of Nintendo. I dont support scalpers so I will never have one.
Yeah i totally agree.When i read stardock their mediocrity immediately came to mind.
They are the infinity ward of boring 4x gaming
I’m sorry, who?
Fine, we do not need you developer ghost!
If only game companies were into making games for the passion, instead of only for the money.
Like they used to years ago before internet gaming and all that bollox :( bring back the days of GameCube and PS2!x
That doesn’t exists anymore.
Unlike Nintendo I’ve never heard of these people. Wish them the best of luck and everything but if Switch is as much of a success as it looks like it’s going to be then it’s a pity for them
I respect this guy for being honest and not playing that stupid “powa and enginez” card.
Stardock = 10
Respawn = 0
He did start off by saying that “it’s too different than any of the others” as a reason they aren’t working with it. Sounds like half their argument is “we don’t like different” with a statement like that, imo.
Buuut then you do some research and find out they have shares with ATI and AMD, not Nvidia.
He doesn’t want to support the Switch because he doesn’t want his shares to vanish from AMD and ATI.
https://youtu.be/SP0Z0Kl7Zzg?t=13s
Hello Commander.
||Hello…||
Awww! See, Commander? You can be nice sometimes when you’re not driving the cattle! Just don’t hug anyone, I think it would hurt… :p
Laziness is the only word I can think of after reading that statment.
Is…is he not aware of the fact that that mindset is the reason third party games didn’t do well on Nintendo systems?
Chicken and egg paradox.
I think the competition from Nintendo games is a large factor too. People have limited time and money for games, a lot of that will be put on Nintendo games, because of how good they are. On other platforms, there is no competition from Nintendo to worry about.
I see your point, but… I’m not fully sure, but I believe he made that statement taking into account that Nintendo fans primarily buy Nintendo hardware to play Nintendo software. In other words, people have Nintendo platforms to play Nintendo games to begin with. That’s the kind of demography that would never consider buying a non-Nintendo game: if there was a real competition, the competitors should be primarily considered as competitors, which never happens when it comes to Nintendo supporters.
Nintendo.
I really only heard of these guys now.
I feel like they’re too lazy to bother with the Switch and would rather see their games flop on other systems and platforms.
I could care less
Which means you care….
I would probably care if I had actually heard of this company or were aware of any of their games lol
Also, they are partners with AMD, Nintendo Switch is using Nvidia Hardware so no wonder why he won’t support the Switch. It’s not because it’s hard, it’s because his company are sellouts to AMD.
From what I’ve seen from their games is either mediocre or just down right dull.
“I mean, if it was a $1000 game system, maybe I’d care.”
Can someone please help me understand what this means? Is he saying he’d make games for Nintendo hardware if it cost $1000? Good luck building a big enough user base to justify development costs for a $1000 console. Like…seriously, WHAT?
PC master race. Only logical explanation I could think of.
Even then. Most of those dweebs have pemtiums and i3’s. It would be pretty useless to have a monster gpu with a weakass cpu.
He just say that Nintendo don’t need third parties (because Nintendo is big and people buy Nintendo hardware for Nintendo games primarily) and since the hardware is cheap people are happy to buy it even without the third parties. People would have be scared to buy an hardware more costly (1000$) without third parties. He is actually saying that the Nintendo Switch is really cool but very far from his business so he don’t want to invest on it.
No I think he was saying the Switch doesn’t need 3rd party support because of what it is… Then he said, if it was a 1,000 dollar system then he could understand… Meaning he would then think the console would need 3rd party support because of the amount of money you’d be paying… You would expect a 1,000 dollar system to have full 3rd party support… But a $300 Switch can survive without it…
That’s what I got out of it anyways…
I agree with you.
It’s silly to say, “There’s been no third party success on the Switch” when there even hasn’t been a strong 3rd party title anywhere in the launch window. There weren’t really any 3rd party “successes” when the Xbone or PS4 launched either. Most of what I remember was “shit” to “decent.” The highest rated game I could find was Flower on PS4 and fucking SPORTS games were the highest on the Xbox One. This dude’s reasons are a joke.
Though you may not like sports games, they are a necessary evil as they sell like hot cakes.
I may not like them, they may be a necessary evil, but that doesn’t make them a reason to buy a system. Let alone being the highest rated launch game.
If they’re NOT on a system, you lose that whole market.
Quick, we can’t say that Nintendo’s system is underpowered, so what other excuse can we use??
“The Nintendo Switch is too different.”
Switch is severely underpowered being beaten out by Xbone regular edition even. He could’ve used that argument if he wanted, but he isn’t looking at the power only.
Understandable, companies need to make money and from the looks of it, if they were to port their games or make similar games to what they have now, it probably wouldn’t sell well or be a huge success on the switch. His comment about 3rd party games being successful on Nintendo is BS though.
No need Stardock. Really.
Well, a big FUCK YOU to Stardock then
Looked them up cuz I’ve never heard of them.
Definitely not a loss in my book lol.
Who the hell is Starduck? It doesn’t matter, not supporting the Nintendo Switch then you are out of luck. You just shorten your buck. You lazy f**k.
Is that like the neighbor of StarFox? Or related to Darkwing Duck? I’m overthinking Grunty again… MEDIC!
I thought it was Daffy or Donald Duck, who every they are related to I hope they have bad luck.
If Nintendo could get these, and other unique, 3rd party games on the Switch then there’s no need for AAA devs because the smaller devs of these games would definitely put the Switch in a position where either you can play it on pc or on the go, and majority of PC gamers would definitely buy a Switch for these games just to be able to play them on the go.
Under Night In-Birth Exe:Late[st]
Dragon Knight
Children of Morta
Planet Explorers
Death’s Gambit
Death Road to Canada
EITR
Ghost Song
Enter the Gungeon on Steam
CrossCode
DUAL GEAR
Sky Break
Ghost 1.0
GIGA WRECKER
Ghost of a Tale
NECROPOLIS: BRUTAL EDITION
Phantom Breaker: Battle Grounds
Rain World
Dark and Light
Crossing Souls
Chasm
Moonlighter
Doko Roko
Paradise Lost: First Contact
Night in the Woods on Steam
Dark Devotion
Battlerite
Katana ZERO
Nights of Azure
P.A.M.E.L.A.
BUCK
Dead Cells
Phantom Trigger
The Memory of Eldurim
“Nintendo doesn’t arguably need third party,”
This kind of shows they don’t really know what they are on about. The Wii U fell flat on it’s face, partly due to lack of Third Party support. Every system NEEDS a healthy supply of both First and Third Party games. There are only so many games that Nintendo can make in a calendar year.
Maybe he meant “they act like they don’t need 3rd party support”? Actually, the guy was a dick, but he has a point when talking about the relationship between Nintendo and 3rd parties developers.
Never heard of these guys until right now this very moment :3
Just like the bunch of idiots who told Nintendo to shove it… and now they are a few steps closer to bankrupcy
That was a software company for the OS, not a game developer.
Dumbass.
And nothing of value was lost, it seems.
Nothing Stardock do is even remotely a good fit for the Switch anyway, so what does it matter. I happen to think the Switch is going to see more third party success stories than other Nintendo consoles of late as people want to play their favourite games on the go, but we’ll see.
Never heard of these developers. Not missing much by not having them develop for the switch
Wow, for a moment, I thought we were talking about the coffee company!
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Anyways, never heard about these guys.
Starbucks didn’t even come to mind but now thats all im reading 😂
At first glance I thought the same thing! Then I immediately thought of this lol:
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Nothing personal, but I hate when newspapers and other “news” sites, organizations, etc. put in parentheses or brackets the words the person didn’t say as if people are too stupid to know. Sometimes, they even get it wrong enough that the meaning is taken away. Context and semantics count at times and dumbing down the language seems out of place to me.
I am sure people learn it as an English or Journalism major, but man it looks stupid
Hello everyone. I don’t know this CEO and never heard about these games. So they don’t want to bring their work to the Switch. No problem, we just have the right third party developers.
Right? What major dev has voluntarily joined the Switch that wasn’t working with Nintendo already?
+Steveb943
Yacht club games (Shovel Knight) They’re pretty major
Vertex pop (Graceful explosion machine) Major enough!
SUMO Digital (Snake Pass) Major out-of-the-box
SEGA(they’ve worked with Nintendo before but it’s a new era)
Shin’en (FAST RMX) Became major overnight thx to the switch
I mean the list goes on (actually Skyrim is on its way)
tbh the Nintendo Switch is the fastest selling video game in history(Nintendo). So to discard it’s potential all together makes this guy a blatant fool.
Most of those are not major, and the ones that are major aren’t new, Skyrim was spearheaded by Nintendo.
STAR-WHO?
Meh poo on them, don’t need em anyway lol
Who let this guy out of their crib to do pr?
Sounds to me these guys realize their properties won’t sell on the switch. Therefore i respect their decision not to develop anything for nintendo.
The audience just will not be there. Or so they say.
They never developed for consoles.
You know, please don’t shoot (and please forgive the “tl;dr”), but I actually sorta kinda agree with the guy. Hear me out:
I mean, let’s think about it. The Wii was a huge success. The WiiU? Not so much. The difference between them was NOT 3rd party support, though. Neither one of them had very good 3rd party support on the one hand, and yet neither one of them were absolute 3rd party deserts either.
So what was the REAL difference between the two systems then? Two major things:
a) the volume and quality of 1st and 2nd party Nintendo games….
…….but EVEN MORE IMPORTANT in my opinion…..
b) that the unique use case that Nintendo offered in the Wii resonated hugely with gamers, was well supported by developers, and was widely adopted and smartly implemented all around….whereas the WiiU tablet, though a very interesting idea that did have a bunch of untapped potential and a few clever implementations here and there never really resonated with the masses, and developers never really knew what to do with it, or cared to figure it out, plus it couldn’t be decoupled from the system. So even though it did have amazing potential, and even though it had features that even the Switch doesn’t have, it ultimately became this “Swiss Army Albatross” that dragged the WiiU into the bog.
Now, not having 3rd party games certainly didn’t help matters, granted. But at most, it was the tertiary cause of the system’s lack of true success (because it wasn’t exactly a total failure either). Ho-Hum 1st party support paired with the un-unpairable dead weight were both larger factors.
Therefore, while we certainly DO WANT third party games on the Switch, and while the system will certainly be even better and even more successful with them than with without them…..not to mention even more enjoyable – and even more damning to the PS4 and XB1 who already seem kinda silly now when held against the flexibility of the Switch on the one hand, and the raw power of PC gaming on the other…
…but at the end of the day, do I think the Switch really NEEDS 3rd party games? So long as we have a compelling, resonant unique use case that is consumer and developer embraced, and as long as we have a steady stream of quality 1st and 2nd party Nintendo IPs, then I am forced to conclude that the answer to the question of whether or not we truly NEED them is a resounding…….No. And we already have the first of those two necessary components clinched.
Therefore, so long as Nintendo keeps the hits coming, then the system will still be a soaring success and a total delight even if we never see a single major 3rd party blockbuster in its entire life. And please understand that my saying this is in no way any sort of indictment of the Switch, but rather, a declaration of complete faith in it that it’s such an amazing system, and so close to invincivibility assuming the 1st party is strong that it can stay afloat even without 3rd parties…
…now that said?……BRING ON THE FLIPPIN’ 3RD PARTIES! :-D
Cheers!
All systems need third party support. U had it early on, but it still wasn’t enough. Trust me Nintendo can’t put out games that often, and they won’t pay for devs to bring their stuff. Support is necessary for true success.
This is very true, but the exclusion of their support in particular isn’t going to make or break business for any of the console makers. Looking into the history of what they have contributed to gaming it’s primarily PC support and games, and no notable technological support except in the case of Windows. I’m not the most tech savvy person, but I’m sure there are more than a few other companies who can fill in for what they can offer.
You agree with someone who is only saying all this because he doesn’t want to lose his money with the partnership with AMD by porting games to the Nintendo Switch which is using Nvidia tech?
Well, please be sure you’re not misreading me by way of over reading me. I never affirmed that part of the quote, nor the part about the Switch being too different. The only part of the quote I was actually interacting with was his thing about whether the Switch really NEEDS 3rd party games.
And as I said above, as long as we have a compelling use case that resonates (which I think we’re already seeing that we do), and as long as Nintendo and it’s 2nd party partners keep pumping out the goods, then we really don’t NEED them at all (which is not to say we don’t still WANT them, though.) :-)
Perhaps I should’ve better parsed the opening lines of my last comment to clarify that it was only a portion of his quote I was agreeing with. However, that the guy strikes us possibly as a self-serving tool that was only saying this to attempt to gracefully recuse himself from working on the Switch while not looking like he was totally trashing it doesn’t automatically invalidate everything he says. That’s a pit we need to make sure we avoid as well.
Cheers!
It would still be nice if the Switch got MVCI eventually…
Oh No! That’s Awful! I was looking so forward to their products on the Nintendo Switch, dear merciful god, how will I ever go on!?!
… Who is Stardock?
For the most part, Stardock is known for their RTS so i can understand their view. Overall i think his statement is off from a general point of view though.
Not that ANY of your games are a hit ANYWHERE.
Who the hell is Stardock? Not much of a loss.
“Hey, look at me! I have an audience of 1’000 people around the globe that play my games. My opinion matters!”
“Too different than”
Hehe.
Stardock makes strategy games for PC so don’t think they will support any console what so ever. Think it would be bigger news if they actually where supporting any console.