Nintendo’s latest Mario title’s file size has been revealed on the official Nintendo website and it’s surprisingly small. As always Nintendo have produced a game with bountiful content with a small file size. In the case of Super Mario Odyssey the file size is 5.7GB. The stunning Super Mario Odyssey launches on Nintendo Switch on October 27th,
Super Mario Odyssey File Size Is 5.7GB
Great, this will be a digital buy for me!
AGREED! Wish we could pre-load
Unless the physical is coming with a booklet, i’m going digital for this. it’s just easier for me
Really? A mere instruction booklet would factor in your decision? C’mon.
Most instruction booklets nowadays are 3 pages long and only contain basic info and legal stuff.
Nothing beats the convenience of digital (instant availability, no card swap, follows you around, can backup your software in case of theft/fire, and the list goes on). Someone carefully picking it’s games — watching reviews, not impulse buying — rarely have to resell/trade their titles anyway, and have the boxes accumulate dust on a shelf, which I consider useless IMO.
I love these upsides to digital hence why a good 95% of my PS4 catalog is digital.
Switch games don’t come with booklets amymore lol
Some promotions like Mario Maker on Wii U did come with a booklet so Nintendo might do one for a collectors edition for Switch
Nintendo already made its own Mario switch deal you git the switch system a digital code to mario odyssey, and a carrying case that’s it no booklet or nothing every since the Switch release they have beeen no booklets inside them.that deal I just stated was the special edition they came up with by the way
same with ps4
Nintendo knows how to make right size for her own games but other companies cant?
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Nintendo has been historically great at compressing their games. It’s the reason there consoles have recently had significantly less space than others. The problem is when 3rd parties make games, they aren’t usually going to make a ground up version for the switch, they will port over the game with improvements and deprovements so they can run it on the switch. This is the reason why 32 gbs can be a problem for some users. This isolates people who would get the switch to play 3rd parties on the go.
This is also why when Ubisoft made Mario and rabbids it was considerably small in file size. I assure u if the switch gets assasins creed or something, it will be much bigger (not only because it is far more graphically intense but for the reasons I stated earlier as well)
ground up versions thats a excuse they can make games on any stsyem with CURRECT SIZED FILE SIZES THERE JUST TALENTLESS STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THEM THERE FILE SIZES ARE BOARDERING ON INSANE nintendo is hitting tripple a games at 5gb vs 64 gb my turd patys thats a insane difference just not logical
i cant tell if your taking shots at me, nintendo, or 3rd parties…
look i think nintendo’s small amount of space on the switch is a huge problem. The thing is it really isn’t a problem for me specifically because I only want a few third party games. I mean i have 4 games on switch right now, splatoon, rabbids, sonic, and mario kart (all physical) and i still have 22 gbs left. At the rate I’m going I will easily get 10 or more games without having to get an sd card. My xbox one is out of space at 6 games and i have 500 gbs. So nintendo building ground up games AND nintendo being able be masters of compression is great. The proof ground up games specifically for one console are smaller is clear, look at ubisoft’s mario and rabbids. Not Nitendo compressed but it still is extremely small.
Now if you were taking shots at third parties, if a game is 64 gbs it is a HUGE open worlded, graphically intense game for multiple consoles. Is the game you are reffereing to just that? I will bet it is. And you are exaggerating a lot. Most 3rd party games are aroun 20-30 gbs and they usually are decently graphically intense with multiple systems to run on. I HATE to defend NBA2k but that games has 3 consoles plus pc to support. Its not going to be 5 gbs. Even if nintendo made the game and compressed it down, it would stil be 16-18 GBS.
Now why’d you waste your time trying to logically explain things to him? He’s clearly insane. lol
What do you mean by “right size”? That doesn’t really make much sense. Different games will have different size requirements. And in this case, Mario Oddysey is the largest main series Mario game ever made.
Sunshine = 1.3 GB
Galaxy = 3.3 GB
Galaxy 2 = 1.3 GB
3D World = 1.6 GB
“That doesn’t really make much sense”
To you only. and the games you mention are irrelevant on my comment.
I don’t think you’re as well-spoken as you think you are. What does “the right size” mean then? Educate me.
What do you mean “im not well spoken as i think i am?” i can berely speak english and using google traslate alot of times. so what you think i am thinking about my “well spoken”again??
it is ironic to educate for me som1 (in english i mean) when i berely speak that language.
My comment was like a complain theory style for other companies because Nintendo on the exclusives such as Mario odyss, Zelda, Arms,Splatoon and some others Nintendo is making the right size for the Console using the right tools or engine or what ever to make the games as small is possible while other games from third party developers using huge amount of storage. So my comment is like if Nintendo was on the developing on these games it could manage them better than the other developers.
Yet you come and you make comparation about older mario games something that is so irrelevant on my comment because my comment is about the other companies and the games there not the other Mario games.
Now was my time worth it to answer on you? (well i didn;t had to do something better anyway ..while im waiting to play match On heroes of the storm ;p )
Sorry about that. I did not know that English was your second language.
That being said, maybe it’s the translators fault or something but when you say “Nintendo makes games the right size” you’re saying that they make games the correct size. That’s what doesn’t make sense. That’s why I brought up the size of other Mario games. It’s because you’re acting like there was a correct size of a Mario game.
One of the reasons other companies make large games is because they usually have a lot of unique assets and high resolution textures while Nintendo will tend to re-use assets a lot and they generally use art styles that don’t require very high resolution textures. Nintendo also never made a game with physically based rendering which usually requires albedo maps, roughness maps, metal-ness maps, and normal maps for every surface while an object in a Nintendo game might just have an albedo/diffuse map and a normal map.
It would be wrong to act as if other devs are just lazy or negligent. It would also be wrong to claim that Nintendo makes games as small as possible. Xenoblade Chronicles X is 19.2 GB but it can be compressed to 7.37 GB with a high compression algorithm like LZMA or about 9 GB with a ridiculously fast algorithm like LZ4.
Do you create textures for nintendo?
You working for Nintendo ? No
So this theory with “low resolution textures”
is just a theory. Everyone knows how Nintendo use magic to make big things into small things Like the Size and more specifically like the Switch. Andthats the Point with xenoblade. if other developers could make xeno they couldn’t manage to make that game only 19 giga
Connect your self already.
It’s actually not a theory at all and I don’t have to make their textures to know about the textures they use. You can do texture dumps on Wii U games with CEMU and you can see that BOTW, for example uses normal maps much smaller than its diffuse maps. You can even see that the normal maps are low resolution in-game because the block compression artifacts become really evident in high contrast lighting. Some mountains also clearly have textures that are far too low-resolution for the area they cover. Mario Kart 8 also still uses 512×512 textures fairly often with the occasional 768×768 or 1024×1024 texture they’re pretty much all diffuse and normal maps.
“Everyone knows how Nintendo use magic to make big things into small things”
There’s no magic involved.
“Like the size and more specifically like the Switch”
Something is being lost in translation here.
And how can claim that other developers wouldn’t be able to make a game like XCX in only 19GB? THAT would be theory. For all you know, another developer would have used something like LZ4 compression and gotten a smaller game and smaller install files.
“Connect your self already.”
That is also lost in translation. I have no idea what that’s supposed to mean. Connect myself to what?
Boring to read this maybe later
If that’s boring than you may be talking about something you don’t understand.
Wrong. its boring to explain you something that you think you understand.
oh man….it seems i will give up explain to you nicely.
“Super Mario Odyssey’s File Size is Only a Little Bigger Than an NBA 2K18 Save File”
This is an yesterday article on the nintendolife site. This is one example of the many out there how the world is looking on how small the games are with the file size on Nintendo switch. Connect your self already to the reality. the reality with the world who are discussing how “cool” is the small size on some Nintendo games. I also saw you crying on a different comment here from a person who was praising the size of the mario game.
Here is the deal I will tell you exactly what kind of person you are. i know your brain is to small to handle the truth so you gonna lost in on the translation.
HERE!! WE are talking about with some praise the “Miracle” of birth of a human been!!!! and we are talking how this is a miracle!! And you exactly that kind of people. The stupid kind. You are the person who come and tell us “NO this is not a miracle !! This is the resault of the the dick putting white liquid into the Vagina
Did you get it now or you lost it again in the translation? can you even see the metaphor that i just point ? or do you think i just speak with an irrelevant comment.
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In your previous comments you said that Nintendo games are as small as possible.
You were proven wrong.
You inferred it wasn’t possible for me to know about the kind and amount of textures Nintendo uses without actually working at Nintendo.
You were proven wrong.
Yet, I apparently have a brain to small to handle the truth? I just gave you the truth, Mr. Deluxe Edition.
Please don’t try to make any comments about things you don’t know about which, in this case, is game development and what I know. I’m not the most intelligent person, but I wouldn’t put myself in a situation where I dig myself a hole about something I know nothing about. There are a few topics I feel I’m qualified to talk about though and you we’re talking about one of them.
I wasn’t crying about anything in my comment to xkobebryantx. I’m a huge Nintendo fan and do appreciate their games being small but I don’t like giving anybody the wrong kind of credit. Xkobebryantx got where I was coming from and didn’t take any offense to it. You did for some reason.
As for the save size of NBA2K18, they’re apparently only 75 MB per save but there’s 3GB of update data on system memory. At least that’s what people who own the game are saying.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/200277-nba-2k18/75777193
If it really is 5GB per save then I definitely have some questions but you shouldn’t compare Odyssey size to it as if that’s the typical size of a game save. Odyssey is small for a modern game but it’s not because of some technical mastery.
“HERE!! WE are talking about with some praise the “Miracle” of birth of a human been!!!! and we are talking how this is a miracle!! And you exactly that kind of people. The stupid kind. You are the person who come and tell us “NO this is not a miracle !! This is the resault of the the dick putting white liquid into the Vagina
Did you get it now or you lost it again in the translation? can you even see the metaphor that i just point ? or do you think i just speak with an irrelevant comment.”
Well, I AM an atheist :-P But I’m not a dick.
“When you are WWE fun he is that guy who will say “WWE is fake” He is the guy who will go to the people who believing the Birth of the human is a miracle and say No its not a miracle its the Resault when the vagina get fucked by penis and the white liquid comes inside. He is the guy who will say “why you care for christmas too much? it is an ordinary day like all the rest of the year”..”
I’ve been a huge wrestling fan since 1998 and Christmas is my favorite holiday so I wouldn’t say those things. You really set yourself up for failure here, didn’t you? :-)
Yes. i set my self up for a failure.
Im a failure because im trying to explain to explain to you the real failure how the things are. and that makes me a failure too since im still trying. for a guy who couldn’t
even understand a simple text with 10-15 words and making an comment with a comparation on other mario games with the mario oddyss…a luck of understanding from the very beginning
You cant even understand that. how it is possible then to you. to understand the whole next situation that i drive you in soon if you even manage to read all that? and this is why im a failure because i knew from the start
you have that problem that i just mention you earlier with the examples and you miserable fail to understand and now i’m in an even bigger hole now for making you understand the examples too+ the earlier comments. oh dear i will do it
First- you said i was wrong about nintendo games for been small as possible. Wrong?
really? you start with this failure? Nintendo already made these games with the small size. Like splatoon like ARMS like or even ubisoft manage to make Mariorabbit with small size?
Do you even know what is the whole point of this? a good looking game like these i mention and more + small file size. like i said its your own problem if you cant connect yourself into this.
i stop that matter here because doesn’t looks like you can understand it and the text is going to be much bigger
Second – about for you not working with Nintendo. i had a very nice laugh here for how you get the bait on that. “inferred it wasn’t possible” Nop i never said that :) i said it is just theories :) read again :):):):):)
But that point there was to trigger you and bring the theories into reality like you trigger me to bring this huge fucking text. And when i said about how nintendo use magic this is how you failing.
you inferred nintendo is not using magic to make these things happend..lmao no shit sherlock? The whole point with you is that you think people and in this case me they speak literally while we dont. i even use the word “magic” earlier
but you didn’t like that word because it wasn’t a “literally” word and you try to correct it.
Third…and most importantly i know you didn;t even get the rest above so why im keep trying? good question and the answer is because im an idiot. ALL these things i said about how the babys are
borned or about wwe and what kind of person you are. all these was rhetorical or metaphors and just examples to what you looks like not that you ACTUALLY are!!!! yet you made answers for real. because it was very convenient
to you to take them realistic to prove your self right? wrong…you prove your self stupid blind (for this specific momment)
Your problem with your thoughts right now or because you dont pay attention enough is because you thinking to much STRAIGHT!! You are like the person who have been told he looks like a goat..
and that person answer NO i have a human face..human leggs human voice..etc etc You are like that person you cant understand metaphore and took all this goat example very straight.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FOCUS on the next text if you failed on the rest above to understand this is the last attemt for your self !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The whole point with the nintendo fans for praising nintendo for how making small size games compared to other companies and most importantly these games looking very good too Thats the point but then you coming on the
comments to cry (Not literally crying since you got a problem to understand the metaphoror or simile or what even the word is for that) or maybe complain? (better now) And you complaining like
“Yes some nintendo games are small due to the the low resolution cheap textures”. this is how the “baby birth miracle” example comes form and i connect it to you. and how you failed to understand it.
Nintendo fans talking about the good looking small size game ( Birth miracle)
And then you are coming to say “NO it is just the resault from the low textures only etc etc!!!” ( its not not birth miracle is just the white liquid resault)
Nintendo fans are like the audience in a magician show (the magician is Nintendo)
And after the show the fans are talking about how good the magic was. And then you are coming to explain this is not magic it is just a trick and you reveal this trick too.
Do you understand now this is a example for what are you doing here? An example or a fixed fantasy from a “parallel reality” (google traslate failure i smell here)
That was not actually what you really are but what your actions looks like or how you could look like on that reality. with the actions you made on this reality Lmao you have problem to understand things from the very beginning
and i drive you even deeper
I was also wwe fan since 2001 till undertaker quit wwe unofficiall. And by unofficial i mean when he stop coming on the show to make matches but only on wrestlemania. then he quit officialy sandly.
And if you were a wwe fan like you claim you should understand that example very easy that a give you for been the guy who likes to destroy the “magic”
lmao ohh boy. You’re not fooling anybody. Nobody thinks you’ve been playing three dimension chess with me the whole time. They can all read this whole conversation.
I didn’t interpret you literally when you said “magic”. I assumed that, just like anybody else, you were using “magic” as a more colorful way to say that Nintendo uses tricks to get their games small. I had said from the beginning that they’re not using tricks, their games just don’t become very big due to the nature of their games.
“this is how the “baby birth miracle” example comes form and i connect it to you. and how you failed to understand it.
Nintendo fans talking about the good looking small size game ( Birth miracle)
And then you are coming to say “NO it is just the resault from the low textures only etc etc!!!” ( its not not birth miracle is just the white liquid resault)”
Except that’s not anything like what happened. Let me clarify for you what you just said. You said that I took offense at people marveling at how small Nintendo’s games are and responded by denying that the games are small at all… then explaining why they’re small. This is why you suck at making analogies.
I never denied that Nintendo’s games are small. I denied that they’re masters of compression and I denied that there is somehow a “correct” size for a game that only Nintendo and that can Nintendo can achieve said size. That what I’ve been talking about the whole time.
The only reason I mentioned textures was to better illustrate how the look of different games, especially games that try to look realistic, have very different storage requirements than Nintendo’s games. In other words, if Nintendo used physically-based lighting then they too would have to have twice as many textures as they currently use per object.
“And if you were a wwe fan like you claim you should understand that example very easy that a give you for been the guy who likes to destroy the “magic””
1. Never said I was a WWE fan. I said I’ve been watching wrestling since 1998. WWE’s alright but I like GFW, ROH, and NJPW more :-)
2. Never said I didn’t get the scenario. I just said that it doesn’t apply to me. And again, at what point did you think this whole conversation became about me ruining the magic for everybody?
You’re argument throughout this whole conversation went from “You’re blind to the truth and reality.” to “You take things too literally.” to “You like ruining magic.”
Be consistent, don’t change topics, and stop acting like a prick.
Yes everyone can read the comments like you said. and just when som1 said on a comment “He was expecting 10-13g”
You start crying again with a comment
“I don’t know where people keep getting that they’re compression geniuses”
This is cleary how mad you are going when you see people praising Nintendo for making small size games. while you got in your mind something like “Nintendo just designs games in ways where they don’t take up much space” and that makes you think you can make comments like these
1. i though you was wwe fan since you comment on the wwe point i made on you, you even manage to fail on that when you give a irrelevant answer to the main point as wwe is not just a wrestling it is a scriped wrestling.
2) “three dimension chess with me the whole time” NO dumbass that was my kind side of my self showing you with examples represent yourself something that you cleary fail to understand. and making answers like a morron.
Yes everyone can see the comments like you said everyone but not you it seems
You have lost the whole point.
I think i found what is wrong with you.
It seems you imagining for your self you are some kind of “texture developer” and when you see Nintendo fans praising (you know what) You start using your irrelevant knowledge for how these games are small and making comment like “Nintendo just designs games in ways where they don’t take up much space”
Here is where you should realise you are not a “texture developer” (or how ever is this term in english) and you are in the WRONG side of the STORY. your SIDE is the Costumer side. You are costumer. You are a gamer. All that matters is the resault. a resault that people praising a resault that makes these games a good looking small sized games. But your “texture developer” side of your self doesn’t allow you, to think.
What the fuck ” im acting like a prick? you are the prick who making replies on people with comments praising the size of Mario oddyss. lol ….
” three dimension chess” im still laughing ..this is how your brain can traslate simple things? lol three dimension chess..hahaha you got me here.
Actually, if you were any good at reading comprehension, you would see that I said that in response to this post:
“I don’t think we have ever had a Mario game get near this amount. I was surprised that Odyssey would be this huge! 5 gbs is a huge amount for Nintendo considering that they are compression geniuses.”
I was responding to someone literally using “compression geniuses” to describe Nintendo. That commenter responded saying that he meant what I said and they were just using the word “compression” to be quick and I liked his comment. I’m thinking you might have thought I was angry because I capitalized DEFLATE, but that’s literally how it’s spelled.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEFLATE
I don’t see why I can’t make comments like those just because you don’t agree with them. It’s a FACT that they aren’t doing any form of industry leading compression on their games. For years, Nintendo used the Yay0 algorithm for their games which has a lower comrpession ratio than DEFLATE but decompresses very quickly. They may still be using that or they may be using something like LZ4 which seems to be what this site is suggesting.
https://lz4.github.io/lz4/
Nintendo DOES design games in ways where they don’t take up much space, that’s not me asserting my opinion, it’s just true. I even went through the effort to explain to you how Nintendo does texturing compared to what other companies might be doing and that just offended you more.
On the WWE argument: How did I fail on my answer? It wasn’t meant to start a debate, I was just making a statement after you question whether I was “a true WWE fan”. I also don’t understand why WWE being scripted makes my response irrelevant when GFW, NJPW, and ROH are all scripted, too. And if you didn’t know already, PWG, Pro Wrestling Magic, IWA-MS, ICW, NJAP, Lucha Underground, AAA, CMLL, The Crash, Noah, and literally hundreds of other promotions around the world are also scripted.
That was your kind side showing? Sir, when you claimed that you were baiting me into saying certain things when you clearly weren’t, that was your fragile ego showing. That why all you have are insults and accusations.
“Yes everyone can see the comments like you said everyone but not you it seems.”
You literally starting your post off by misinterpreting what my other post was in response to lol
“You have lost the whole point.”
Except I haven’t. My point was that there is no such thing as a game being “the right size”. That’s still my point and it’s true.
“I think i found what is wrong with you.”
We got Sigmund Freud over here. Lets see what you got.
“It seems you imagining for your self you are some kind of “texture developer”””
I’ve never claimed that. However, I’ve literally made textures packs before. And when I commented about the textures sizes of Mario Kart 8, I was literally looking at a texture dump from the game as I was typing that comment. So you’re off to a bad start. And the term wouldn’t be “texture developer” but a texture artist.
“and when you see Nintendo fans praising (you know what)”
I own every Nintendo handheld and console except for the Switch. Between the Wii and Wii U I have over 100 games and I even own five NESs. I AM a Nintendo fan. That’s why I found this site. Just because I love something, doesn’t mean I support blind praise. I expect people to be similarly critical about any film, website, or artwork I make.
“You start using your irrelevant knowledge for how these games are small”
Nobody is arguing that Oddysey isn’t small. For the 100th time, I was just saying that there is no “right size” for games. The shit I brought up also can’t be irrelevant to explaining why they’re small if they DO actually explain, at least in part, why certain games are the size that they are.
“and making comment like “Nintendo just designs games in ways where they don’t take up much space””
Again, I don’t see what you find so offensive about this this statement.
“Here is where you should realise you are not a “texture developer” (or how ever is this term in english) and you are in the WRONG side of the STORY. Your SIDE is the Costumer side. You are costumer. You are a gamer.”
Just because someone is primarily a consumer doesn’t mean that I don’t know about the development side. I HAVE done some game programming before and I HAVE made textures before. And you’re talking to somebody whose circle of friends in college literally created and taught my colleges game development degree.
“All that matters is the resault. a resault that people praising a resault that makes these games a good looking small sized games. But your “texture developer” side of your self doesn’t allow you, to think.”
I have no problem with people praising Nintendo for making small games. I took exception to specific claims that people were making. Please, stop acting like you’re some wise sage with a third eye. You’ve managed to not only misinterpret every point I’m made, but you’ve literally been wrong about every assumption you’ve made about me.
“What the fuck ” im acting like a prick? you are the prick who making replies on people with comments praising the size of Mario oddyss. lol ….”
I’ll leave it for others to decide who is or isn’t a prick. All I know is that I’ve had arguments with flat-earthers who managed to keep calm better than you have.
Holly shit and i though i made big annoying comments.. give up already you dont fool anyone than your self.
Your problem is you think i disagree with you you still don’t get it do you? do i have to use very bad language?
You keep answering and answering and answering wrong. im boring to answer your irrelevant again to the matter comment inch by inch because you dont deserve it anymore. something that i knew from the start.
Focus here. The things you saying. are not wrong. ok? because something driving you to type all these irrelevant things im talking about the technical explanation about the filze sizes and textures.
Because once again you cant focus on the point (not the result the other point) the point with you been irrelevant for explaining irrelevant things.
“I told you the people are praising the miracle of the birth and you are the guy who will come and say the irrelevant thing that is not a miracle just the result….(you know)”
What is the problem with you do understand something so simple? is the example wrong? i dont think so. i think something distrub you to focus on the point from every example i made for you.
is the word i used “irrelevant”? because you think your knowledge cant be named as “irrelevant”? is that it? Yes your knowledge is 100% relevant but not to the people who are praising the miracle of birth. there you are just the prick who is coming with the knowledge to tell to these people how the babys are for real and technically have been made to born.
This is what are you doing the whole god damn time and the main problem on the whole comment situation you make comments to the people who are praising the file size with irrelevant info for why the size is small. irrelevant info because kno1 ask you for this info and no1 care to learn for the technical terms but hey..you like to hear your self like me?.
Now. its time for my kind side to step aside. and check my dark side of the force.
You leave it to the others? are you stupid or what? “And you’re talking to somebody whose circle of friends in college” Yep. sure. it seems you like to hear about your self alot. tell us more about your life.
All i know is im talking to a morron who thinks he is very clever. yet.,.he doesn’t know he is not. The college guy..this is how i call you for triggering reasons
First i said something about Mario odyss for been on the right size not very big for the Switch storage this is the right size Then the college guy comes to make a very clever comment for why mario odyss is small size when the other marios are way smaller? Error.666 The comment is not about other marios
Second Then i made examples for the college guy to understand he’s irrelevant position better. And yes again the college clever super high lvl IQ guy get it wrong again. I give him a example with “Birth miracle” and his part on it but yes his answer was like “im atheist but not a prick” or i give him a “WWE” example and he answers again ” i was wrestling fan since bla bla) AND im wondering what kind of morron make literally answers to EXAMPLES. i know what kind of morron is this. Its the morron who didn’t even understand these was “examples” Yet this clever guy still thinks these examples were just assumption for him….wake up morron…
The difference between me and you is that ME actually i know my SHIT. Shit like “The wwe comment i made i didn’t knew these shows you mention was a scriped shows too. and not only i didn’;t knew that there is a worst part too. i didn’t even search atleast for them before i made a comment to pretend i knew them for many years. And this is why you failed on the answer on the wwe because it should be NO ANSWER on the EXAMPLE. yet you made an answer and i follow the answer and i failed too lol and i almost anaswer inch by inch your comment something that i said i will not?
“Did you implied somewere im pretending the good guy and everyone can see im not? lol. Everyone already knows that before i answer to your comment. Im the worst motherfucker guy on this site and get banned too! Im A criminal here. so becarefull. :PPP You realise im not a real criminal and just trolling right? i had to make this clear in case you report me to FBI because you know..you take the things to literally MR (Atheist) college guy lol. (And im atheist too and thats not the point maybe? to call your self and my self atheist? )
Because you’ve been so nice and calm already lol Sure use bad language. You already sound like you’re red in the face.
And dude, stop with the analogies lol You’re terrible at using them effectively. When you’re trying to say that I’m analogous to the people you present in your examples. If I’m a life-long wrestling fan then I’m not analogous to someone who isn’t a wrestling fan and I likes to tell all wrestling fans that it’s fake. If my favorite holiday is Christmas and I DO get excited about Christmas, than I can’t be analogous to someone who hates Christmas and doesn’t understand what there is to get excited about.
I’ll explain it even further. You’re equating a wrestling fan’s enjoyment of wrestling to belief in magic. If I’m a wrestling fan, then that means that I DO beleive in magic. You’re equating someone’s excitement about Christmas to belief in magic. If I also get excited about Christmas, then I DO believe in magic. A wrestling fan and Christmas lover is not an example of a non-wrestling fan and Christmas hater. You’re making false analogies. You are trying to compare things that contrast. Even if they were similes or metaphors, if the underlying analogy doesn’t work, then the metaphor or simile doesn’t work. But please, continue to say that the problem is that I interpret things literally and not that you’re arguments suck.
I had what was realistically a minor disagreement with you when you absurdly said that there is a correct size for something and your responded in a snarky way. That’s why this has devolved into what it has. You seem to have forgotten what you original comment was. You said:
“Nintendo knows how to make right size for her own games but other companies cant?”
Besides making the weird statement that there is such a thing as a correct size for a game, you also disparaged other game companies for the size of their games as if all games are comparable and that Nintendo did something right while other companies did wrong.
In this argument, your game of choice to criticize has been NBA 2K18. That game has, I beleive, 47 current and classic teams and there’s 10-15 players on a basketball team. That’s somewhere between 470-705 players that the game attempts to model and texture realistically. All of them have unique head, arm, and leg textures and they can all sweat. I’m not even counting NPCs in the Neighborhood mode. NBA2k18 also has an extensive amount of acting and The Neighborhood is decorated with high quality graffiti art all over the place. You can also buy a bunch of unique shoes, shirts, and pants for your characters and get tattoos. All of that stuff takes up space.
Let’s put that up against the current largest Mario game (ignoring the bloat the cutscenes add to the size of Galaxy), which is Super Mario 3D World. Every form of every character, enemy, boss, obstacle, power-up, and object in Mario 3D World adds up to 240 unique models. Each generally only has two textures attached to them and many of them are sizes that you would see on the GameCube and Wii games. There is no customizations and the only voice acting is the little “Woo!” and “Ha” sounds that the characters make.
So do you not see why NBA2k18 is a bigger game? Should they have cut a lot of this content instead so that it can be the “right” size for the Switch?
And why would I bring up the size of other Mario games? I’ve already explained that. It was to show that there is no “right size” for a Mario game. If there was a right size, than why have they been trending bigger? And more importantly, if you definition of “the right size” is some ratio of game size vs the systems included storage, they why is Odyssey larger than Super Mario 3D World if the Wii U and Switch both come with the same amount of space?
As for the rest of your rambling and incoherent post:
1. Why would I care about you calling me “college guy”? I mentioned one thing about college and it was in response to your incorrect assertion that I know nothing about game development, never made textures before, and that my relationship with games is one were I am strictly a consumer.
2. Why did you edit my atheist comment in your post to make it sound like I took that seriously? My exact wording was “Well, I AM an atheist :-P But I’m not a dick.” I was making a joke about my atheism and how it applies to your analogy. Why do you think I used the :-P emoji?
3. So people post statements in the comments section of an article about something technical and I shouldn’t respond to people with anything technical that explains why the game is small even though they’re also providing a technical claim that explains why the game is small? Yea, okay. Also, you had you look at xkobebryantx’s other posts on this article, you’d see that he and I agree far more than we disagree. He and I both agree that different types of games will have very different requirements, he doesn’t fault third party games for not being only a few gigs in size, and rightly says that it’s the Switch’s inadequate storage that is the much bigger problem. All we disagreed about Nintendo’s compression prowess relative to the rest of the industry and he was okay with that.
“Did you implied somewere im pretending the good guy and everyone can see im not? lol. Everyone already knows that before i answer to your comment. Im the worst motherfucker guy on this site and get banned too! Im A criminal here. so becarefull. :PPP You realise im not a real criminal and just trolling right? i had to make this clear in case you report me to FBI because you know..you take the things to literally MR (Atheist) college guy lol. (And im atheist too and thats not the point maybe? to call your self and my self atheist? )”
I didn’t need you to explicitly tell me you’re an edgelord. I knew it once I saw Deluxe Edition in your name.
So this is what it looks like from the outside to see an opinion battle where one of the opinions is backed by most likely facts (you) while the other opinion is backed purely by emotions (Thanos.) Carry on. *eats my pizza while I watch*
Enjoy lol
With enough research, you don’t need to work for Nintendo to figure out how they do things, so don’t write him off just because he might be proving you wrong.
True this is a mistake done from all the bad guys
They dont take the hero to serious from the start and in the end the bad guys losig. I was like the bad guy i just didn’t take that comment of mine very serious because he dont deserve one. Yet i get more serious and realistic on my last comment.
I know what kind of guy he is. When you are WWE fun he is that guy who will say “WWE is fake” He is the guy who will go to the people who believing the Birth of the human is a miracle and say No its not a miracle its the Resault when the vagina get fucked by penis and the white liquid comes inside. He is the guy who will say “why you care for christmas too much? it is an ordinary day like all the rest of the year”..
dude..what the hell? what the size from the other mario games have to do with hes comment?
Also your answers on the next commentS? what the hell? Like the other guy said “thanos”
You have a problem with your answers it looks like you cant understand the meaning or the deeper meaning from Comments from the other people…..dude..are you even a human? or robot?
I’m totally a robot lmao
Seem more like an android to me. lol
Not the movie I was looking or but…
lol
I was thinking of something more badass like the androids in Nier: Automata. lol
@_@ Why didn’t I think to try bolding text on here? That would definitely make my posts easier to read.
:O How’d you do that? Is there one for italics, underlines, spoilers, etc? Cuz I wants it!
In my notifications it showed you doing it for some reason. That’s why I tried it lol
You do it just like in html so like
some stuff you want to bold
Just get rid of the spaces. I’m assuming the italics is done the same way but with “i”.
Damn, I thought could get around it. If you know html, it’s done in the exact same way.
Don’t know how much html in supports in comments but I’m assuming just bold, italics, and
strikethrough.Testing
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Darn. Underlining is definitely out of the question. Least bold & italics work.
TestingI have a feeling that underlining has been deprecated in HTML for so long that WordPress decided not to support it in their comments.
I wish there was a tag for spoilers but I didn’t see one on that one site.
Wow I was expecting at least 10 or 13gb.
I don’t think we have ever had a Mario game get near this amount. I was surprised that Odyssey would be this huge! 5 gbs is a huge amount for Nintendo considering that they are compression geniuses.
This makes me curious because splatoon 2 is 3.6 GB and Breath of the Wild is 13.8GB (I figured it would at least be closer to Breath of the wild.
well zelda is definetly an exception considering it was made originally for wii u hardware (thats why the file size is big and there were a lot of bugs in the begining)
I think if breath of the wild was built specifically for the switch then the file size would be 8-10 gbs. And zelda is nintendo’s HUGE open world game series so it would naturally be bigger than all of nintendo’s other games. Even open worlded mario is smaller and multiple worlds with more of a non-linear progression within the specific worlds rather than the whole game itself.
Super Mario 3-D World for Wii U is also an HD Mario game and it was only 1.6 GB, so this takes up almost 4x more space. :-)
well to be fair that game was linear which makes it much easier to be smaller
I don’t know where people keep getting that they’re compression geniuses. The compression library that came with the WIi U was just Zlib which is just the standard DEFLATE algorithm and I think Switch might include LZ4 which is has extremely fast decompression and but doesn’t compress this as much as DEFLATE.
Nintendo just designs games in ways where they don’t take up much space.
what i meant essentially… just thought it was easier to say compression. I guess when i think about it compression is different than what you explained but i will still say compression because i find it easier to type and im just low-key lazy.
“Nintendo just designs games in ways where they don’t take up much space.”
That’s what optimization/compression is, genius.
@D (@djcftua)
Compression and optimization are not the same thing and nobody in this conversation said the word “optimization” before you did. Making a game in a way that it won’t take up as much space would be optimization. When people talk about compression, they literally mean that they’re using a form of lossly or lossy compression on a file. That could be different texture compression formats, it could be video and audio codecs, or it could be the use of algorithms like LZMA, Zstd, Brotli, DEFLATE, or something the else.
Optimizations usually won’t have a downside and are the result of a change in the games code or how data is organized and can improve performance, speed, and size, possibly at the same time. An optimization won’t have a downside.
Compression will usually have some downsides and can negatively effect performance. Some forms of compression, like video or texture compression, could improve performance by reducing bandwidth from the hard disk or RAM respectively IF those are bottlenecks, but they require decoding before they can be used by the hardware. In the case of video compression codecs like h.265 or h.264, they are so complex that they can compress video a lot while retaining quality, and that complexity requires a high amount of CPU usage to play them back in real time. For this reason, GPUs, CPUs, and SOCs, started including decoders for certain video codecs and GPUs built compressed texture support into their texture units to take the load of the rest of the system. Respawn, the company that made Titanfall, actually didn’t compress the audio files for the PC version of Titanfall because lower-end CPUs could take too much time unpacking them and it would negatively effect the frame rate. Using the Switch as an example, Rayman Legends is far smaller on the Switch than on other systems because Ubisoft decided to compress the game a lot. This results in longer load times and dips in the frame rate during gameplay that not even the Wii U had.
Shame you won’t read this since this comment system won’t actually let me reply to your post.
P.S. I was beginning to think I was the only one on here who uses “genius” as an insult.
No 5 GB with big worlds to explore and many Moons to collect with full of functions and secrets.
All of this in 5 (almost 6) GB.
Cool…
I’m getting physical still… physical will always be bae. I remember back in 2008 when (insert flashback here)
Plus it lets me save space on the switch. I still have like 23 gbs and I have three games on ye switch. On my Xbox (despite getting physical… they make u download the game anyway) I ran out of space after 5 games. Now I’m interested to see how many games my switch can take before i need storage
Switch first party games don’t take much space up so you should be fine third party now ate a different story
if i had gone digital, i would have (rounding down) splatoon: 3 gbs, Mario Kart: 1 gbs, mario and rabbids: 5gbs, and sonic mania which is like half a gig. Thats about 8 gigs vs the 2 i’ve used getiing physical. And plus physical will always be close to my heart.
You don’t ever download a physical game on the Xbox. You install it from the disc.You may have to download an update but never the game. The same goes for PS4 .
i don’t really care to learn about how physical works on xbox lol so thanks for the correction. All I really know is that physical games filled my xbox up super fast… granted the one digitial game i had was ffxv so that might have something to do with it.
2008 ? You haven’t lived unless you remember blowing dust out of NES carts and constantly pressing reset and hope once it starts working, that nobody bumps the console other wise, you have to repeat the process all over again !😅
Kidding aside, I can’t even buy any more PS4 games myself unless I get an external or larger HD in my system as each game dumps 30-50 GBs into its hard drive … It’s amazing Nintendo can fit a game of Super Mario Odyssey scope into such a small file size 😳
I laughing bruh XD. Yeah, I wanted to make it clear that i am young yet i still can relate to opening the box to a game on my way home from toysrus or walmart or something, reading the manual.
And you know what, with my DS, I’d bring it to my mom to fix and you knwo what she did? Blow into the cartridge slot and then onto the cattridge itself. I ended up doing it myself so i find it funny that a kid from the early 2000s can relate to an 80s kid.
Oh and my explanation aside, yeah, nintendo’s compression magic plus the games being built ground up for the switch definetly let’s the games be extra small. ESPECIALLY on physical.
Ha, thanks for sharing that bro! Other than realizing I’m an old mo fo, it’s cool that the younger generations could share some of those nostalgic memories similar to mine.
One of the coolest things about buying a physical cartridge back in the day was the manual. Some were full color. My little town had no way to buy games so we had to drive to the next town just to buy anything like that.. (Of course after begging my parents to oblivion)
The sweetest thing was on the drive back (around 30 minutes) me and my bro would pull out the manual and learn the moves n stuff . Some had really cool art to boot! The Legend of Zelda and LOZ: Link to the Past manuals were so godlike and my faves to this day ;)
I know times have changed but it would of been so killer if Breath of the Wild had a full color manual like the older games. I’d a been reminiscing the good old days like the old man that I am :p
Yeah, one of my favorite manuals from my earlier childhood was twilight princess’. I read all the pages of the manual in the car and got car sick so I had to lay down when I got home lmao. And wat more recently was super Mario maker which was awesome that it came with a art book! That was awesome and me and my brother fought to read the booklet first. Ah man I want an old styled manuals again
I have a 200 gig card. At the time of the launch of the switch, it was 70 bucks. I think it’s now 80+ because SD cards are selling like crazy now due to the switch’s popularity. But I’m so glad I bought one. I’ve got about 4-5 digital games already and I still have room for a ton more.
yeah, definetly a great thing for digital gamers.
To me kinda that’s kinda true I only have two physical and that’s mario kart deluxe and splatoon 2 the rest of my games is digital since I brought a bigger sd card
Hey that’s just one save file for a basketball game!
I think Ninty should teach 3rd parties about compression for the Switch. It would really help them a lot.
CAREFUL NOW APPARANTLY ITS NINTENDO AND SWITCH WHO ARE WRONG AND CORE GAMING IMPLYS GIANT FILE SIZES AND WASTE AND BLOAT AND LONG LOADTIMES AND SWITCH IS DUMB BECAUSE IT DOESNT HAVE A TB HARDDRIVE ATTACHED TO IT AND CARRIED AROUND
the fact these idiots are wrong and are calling the wrong way to do something the right way is mind boggling how is mario being a 32 64gb file in any way a good thing
again nintendo proves the fanboys wrong
I should have at least 10-12GBs left on my Switch so I can get Odyssey digitally. The problem is going to be with Fire Emblem Warriors, though, since it’s being made by Koei Tecmo. Hopefully Nintendo is helping with development a little, though, so they can help compress the game like the gods Nintendo are with compression.
Super Mario Odyssey, Assassin’s Creed Origins, AND Fire Emblem Warriors next month. My poor fucking wallet! D: Not to mention I want to splurge a little on my son’s Halloween outfit since it’ll be his first Halloween that he’ll actually be able to remember years later. Oh well. It’ll be worth it!
Lol rip my wallet and your wallet virginity Nintendo is good at raping people’s wallets
Will def be worth it! As for games, I’m considering using multiple SDs these days.
My 128GB only stretches so far, and the carrying case did leave two slots for memory.
Optionally the future can arrive already and drive down prices on 256GB+ cards
and turd partys want 32gb cart space plus access to a sdcard TALK ABOUT INCOMPETENT C-UNTS
Take a seat and learn third parties.
I need to work things out here as I have these planned on Christmas day and it might help me if someone adds all the GB to these games, Mario Kart 8 Delxue, Zelda, Bomberman, 1,2 Switch and Super Mario odyssey then i can work out if i need a micro SD card
All right, it’s (6.8+13.8+2.4+1.3+5.7)GB = 30GB. Those are download sizes, but add the system’s needs plus updates and you’ll need a micro SD.
Huh. I might just download this one, even though I prefer physical so I can have potential resale value (let’s be real here though- I’m gonna be playing the HELL out of this).
I still wonder what the file size for Yooka-Laylee Switch will be since at this rate it and Odyssey will be competing for space (as well as sales). Seriously, where the fuck are you, Playtonic?
Already preordered Super Mario Odyssey
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