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Digital Foundry: Mario Kart 8 Is Native 720p And Runs On Average At 59 Frames Per Second

Respected technology analysis site Digital Foundry has delivered their final verdict on the well-received Mario Kart 8 for the Wii U. The publication says that Nintendo’s latest kart racer is 720p native, which goes against some of the rumours stating that its native 1080p. Nintendo also aimed to have the game run at a constant 60 frames per second, but the game generally dips to 59 frames per second. Here’s some extracts from the definitive analysis.

Starting from the top, then, there has been a surprising amount of confusion surrounding the resolution of the game with some sources even suggesting a native 1080p presentation. We can finally put that rumour to rest right here and confirm that Mario Kart 8 instead operates at what is effectively the console’s standard 1280×720. Of course, considering the quality of the visuals, this can hardly be considered a disappointment especially when other developers are struggling to hit 1080p consistently on more powerful hardware. What is surprising, however, is the complete omission of anti-aliasing in any form. At the very least, Nintendo has previously utilised a basic edge-smoothing algorithm across its Wii U titles and such a feature could have demonstrably improved image quality without a serious performance hit. As it stands, however, we’re left with a heavily aliased presentation filled with obvious stair-stepping and pixel-crawling artefacts throughout most scenes. Busier areas can even result in a loss of detail to the point of reducing visibility.

When it comes to performance, Nintendo has always aimed to deliver a rock-solid 60 frames per second with each home console Mario Kart and, aside from Mario Kart 64, it has always managed to achieve just that. There was never any doubt that Mario Kart 8 would fall right in line with the rest of the series but upon seeing it for ourselves we immediately noticed that something was amiss. During gameplay we experienced the regular appearance of duplicate frames manifesting as a constant but subtle stuttering effect. Upon analysis we determined that the game suffers from extended clusters in which a duplicate frame is displayed every 64 frames. What this ultimately means is that, during normal gameplay, Mario Kart 8 continually drops down to 59fps. This may not seem like a big deal – most will probably not notice it at all, and it has zero affect on playability – but it has a noticeable impact on image fluidity that mars what would otherwise be a perfectly consistent frame-rate. And for us at least, once it is seen, it can’t really be unseen.

By most standards, Mario Kart 8 is an incredibly polished game with beautiful visuals, a high frame-rate, magical playability and an excellent menu system. By Nintendo’s stratospheric standards, however, we dare say that it falls just a bit short. When a Nintendo game goes gold you better believe the final product will be complete and polished to perfection. In the case of Mario Kart 8, the issues we encountered with performance and image quality do detract just a little from an otherwise totally solid experience – and bearing in mind its previous, relentless push for gaming perfection, it leaves us wondering just how the stutter in particular managed to slip past Nintendo QA. Thankfully, the issue should only really stick out to those most sensitive to frame-rate and shouldn’t impact the experience for most people, while the sheer fun and imagination injected into this title clearly trump the technical limitations in the image make-up.

Thanks, Silent

517 thoughts on “Digital Foundry: Mario Kart 8 Is Native 720p And Runs On Average At 59 Frames Per Second”

      1. Tallon Ridley XIII: Kalas

        You’re both trolls then. 1 second lost? Wow! The game is so going to lag & be shit with 1 second off of 60 fps!

          1. Tallon Ridley XIII: Kalas

            I know at least one of them, if not both, were only joking after I read through the comments. I tend to reply to comments as I read the others. If I could delete my comments when I discovered they were being sarcastic, I’d go back & do just that.

        1. So basically your saying that every time they patch a game it will decrease the framerate? Because that makes sense…

        2. The game doesnt drop any frames. It jutters from repeat frames

          The same thing happened in Call of Duty’s multiplayer on PS4 where it was running at 90 frames per second

        1. Why shouldn’t they? Considering Mario Kart 8 is their flagship title, you’d want to release the game with an as steady framerate as possible, to make the game flow consistently.
          One frame duplicate is probably not directly noticeable to most people, but it still detracts from an otherwise perfect visual experience (minus the aliasing, which I know nothing about yet).

          1. Okay, this is getting absolutely silly. I guarantee that you nor anyone else will be able to tell the difference if the game is running at 59 or 60 fps…. if you say you can, well, you’re lying. If both versions (59 & 60 fps) were playing side by side, it my be ever so slightly noticeable, but otherwise you will have no idea. You little girls need to get over specs…they don’t mean shit. Play the games you enjoy and don’t worry about the rest.

            1. No dude if they played a 59 fps and a 60 fps version next to each other you still wouldn’t be able to tell

          2. Believe me when I tell you that there is not a single human being that exists or has ever existed that can tell the difference between 59 fps and 60 fps. Anti aliasing is actually pretty important, it makes i so models look more rounded and smooth.

            1. Tallon Ridley XIII: Kalas

              This is like complaining that the game is 1079p instead of 1080p. xD These people are either trolling or they seriously believe 1 point off from the max is going to seriously be noticeable. I wish I had eyes that were THAT good.

            2. Yeah. The only thing that’s a little surprising is the fact that anti-aliasing is not present; so we’ll probably see a bit of the good ole fashioned jaggies.

              Other than that, the framerate is not an issue and with the graphical design of the game, 720p is just fine for resolution.

          3. If you are a human being, a one frame duplicate is NOT something you would ever notice. The anti-aliasing however is, but regardless the game looks stunning.

        2. Because its not a waste of time? and they have patched pretty much every other Wii U game to increase performance so I don’t see why they wouldn’t with this one.

          1. They will not waste time getting it from 59 to 60. Most games run at 30 fps. Lots of people can’t even tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps.

          1. It’s not a bug! You don’t even know what you’re saying. That’s not what a bug means. A bug would be if there was a “loophole” in the code for example

          1. Tallon Ridley XIII: Kalas

            It’s one freaking second. Only a guy that wants perfection would freak out over one measly second lost.

              1. Tallon Ridley XIII: Kalas

                Still, I played one Grand Prix last night & I didn’t even notice a loss in frame rate. And I know I’m not blind because I’ve got great eyesight.

    1. Stranga, remember all that noise you were making about MK8 was 1080p native 60fps and throwing it in Sasori’s…. Yeah you look like a total douchbag now.

      1. And remember how Sasori talks crap about 720p Forza with cardboard crowd being better than unreleased Mario Kart 8? Yeah. Don’t get it twisted and be his favorite bitch.

        And as for the 1080p argument, its a mixed result thing with no certainty and ironically the 1080p confirmation came from DF weeks ago and now changed their tune just days before MK8? Yeah you should really believe everything you hear and read without knowing it for yourself which is the only way to discover the truth. I played the game at Gamestop and never notice any hiccup and visuals are fantastic. This article sounds like some suspicious nippicking conveniently timed to attempting MK8’s ruined launch.

        I so don’t believe this one little source, not one bit and you can freely twist it in any way you think its appropriate or not. Still won’t stop me buying the game or having second thoughts about Wii U.

        And if you pay close attention to DF’s framerate video, it only shows framerate scale. No resolution mode set or anything so in a way, this can be fixed to drive negativity to get idiots like you to spread such gossip that one framerate drop or 720p equals crappy game in a weak system. So if that’s the case of how you people think gaming is, then Xbox One must be the shittiest game console of the big 3 because it can’t pull off pass 800p and 60FPS any further than Wii U can. So there you go for my so called “damage control” in case you’re gonna reply with that.

        And truth be told, this and Watchdog’s final performance reveal only proves that maybe none of the next gen hardware, even PS4 aren’t capable to push for that wetdream 1080p/60FPS goal today afterall or maybe ya should give the developers and hardware more time to be fully utilized to see its true potential in the end.

        1. @Stranga, amen, also im still getting the game, nothing and no one will stop me from getting the game, i dont care if its the worst selling kart game ever, just like im gonna get hyrule warriors, it may not sell but im still getting it.

    2. There was once a prince, and he wanted a princess, but then she must be a real Princess. He travelled right around the world to find one, but there was always something wrong. There were plenty of princesses, but whether they were real princesses he had great difficulty in discovering; there was always something which was not quite right about them. So at last he had come home again, and he was very sad because he wanted a real princess so badly.

      One evening there was a terrible storm; it thundered and lightninged and the rain poured down in torrents; indeed it was a fearful night.

      In the middle of the storm somebody knocked at the town gate, and the old King himself sent to open it.

      It was a princess who stood outside, but she was in a terrible state from the rain and the storm. The water streamed out of her hair and her clothes; it ran in at the top of her shoes and out at the heel, but she said that she was a real princess.

      ‘Well we shall soon see if that is true,’ thought the old Queen, but she said nothing. She went into the closet, dusted off the Wii U and popped in Mario Kart 8. This was where the princess was to game that night. In the morning they asked her how she played.

      ‘Oh terribly bad!’ said the princess. ‘I could nary finish a single race! Heaven knows what was wrong with the framerate. It seemed to be repeating one out of every sixty-four frames on occasion, and my whole vision is blurry this morning. It is terrible!’

      They saw at once that she must be a real princess when she had felt the frame being repeated. Nobody but a real princess could have such a delicate eyesight.

      So the prince took her to be his wife, for now he was sure that he had found a real princess, and the repeated frame was put into the Museum, where it may still be seen if no one has stolen it.

      Now this is a true story.

    3. Tallon Ridley XIII: Kalas

      xD You’re cancelling it because of 1 second of a framerate drop? Congrats, kid. You’re troll attempt worked. I’m giving you attention.

        1. Calling me a fanboy… yet I AM a PlayStation Fan… oh snap!
          I’m talking about those retards we have that constantly use resolution when us real fans don’t give a fuck, we just want games.

          1. I’m pretty sure these guys are just being sarcastic but you are right, some of these bro gamers are the definition of retards.

    1. Then you’re a fool to ignore a game for one little framerate drop that’s not even remotely noticeable and only happens once in every ten seconds of each race which, again, you won’t see it.

      1. Its not a frame drop, its a stutter ( that you cant really see)

        The games’s running too many frames and causing the issue

  1. Let the idiot comments commence.

    In my opinion, I couldn’t care less. I would buy this game if it were 420p for all I care. It is convenient it is 60 fps and 720p.

    No, even with 59fps, it’s still 60fps.

    1. Uhh… This is probably the best looking Wii U and best looking Nintendo game ever made, so… I wouldn’t like 420p very much. XD

      1. True! But the lightning effects and probably other things are making the game beautiful too, so resolution isn’t everything!

          1. If you base your enjoyment of a game on how graphically detailed it is, You are a cancer to gaming.

              1. Tallon Ridley XIII: Kalas

                And? Why isn’t the Last of Us, which is around 720p, IGN’s Game of 7th gen instead of Super Mario Galaxy, which is around 420p, if the year we’re in really matters so much?

      1. Jon Johnson McJansen Jeensen

        Shut up. YOu don’t even know what that means? You can control damage? FUCK YOURSELF. Asshole. Go dye in a fire of color.

          1. You don’t get it do you.

            A bunch of numbers still won’t change how we feel about the game because we know it’s a great game.

            At the end of the day, you’re still trying to convince yourself that it’s just not worth it so you try to find things to bitch about the game so you don’t cry about not having the game. Meanwhile, we are enjoying the game regardless of what a hater (secret lover) has to bitch about the game, even if you psychologically try to compensate for not having the game.

        1. Listen go watch some ps4 games under the tech radar you’ll see fps dropping way more then 1 frame wow no human could notice that what a load of rubbish ??

            1. Tallon Ridley XIII: Kalas

              If Wii U is dogshit, I guess the PS3 & Xbox 360 are too then since they are last gen & most likely weaker than the Wii U.

    2. Agreed, I am so tired of every ones fixation on fps and resolution. Like graphics, none of these has a direct effect on the quality of a game. Chrono Trigger is probably my favorite game of all time and it doesn’t have 60fps, hd resolution, or high end graphics. I also don’t see any games that have 60fps, 1080p resolution, or a higher polygon count ever changing this fact in my opinion.

      1. I agree how’s about the graphics they are amazing best ive seen this gen easy ?? nitpicking is all i see this game has 12 players online and it’s 720p native with all them 12 characters and vehicles animating constantly takes alot of power believe you me,as MK8 devs said there sure there is more left in the wiiu so with more time like Bayonetta2 devs are getting they prob could of achieved it….

        And all this talk about AA like the game has jaggie edges or something it’s the most polished crisp game i think ive seen in ages……

  2. They are so full of shit! Can tell between 59 and 60 FPS… What a bunch of bullshit! And please, don’t start off the article with “respected” bc they’re not.

    1. There Sony/Microsoft fanboys DF i couldn’t care less if the game drops to 59fps occasionally to me that’s acceptable now go fuck off and blow Sony up for their exclusives that drop about 10frames constantly ?? pricks….

    1. Yes with graphics that outshine any ps4 game easy who bloody cares a true Native 720p upscaled to 1080p with them graphics will look gorgeous and every review says the gameplay is flawless with no sign of a dropped frame anywhere ???? DF prob has engineered the video to look a bit worse then it actually is pricks….

      1. am sorry but mario kart 8 doesn’t even reach ps4 graphics. did you see forza 5, the crew, need for speed ps4, driveclub or the batman’s batmobile from arkham knight. lol wii u last gen confrimed.

        1. We’ve seen 720p Forza 5 with static cardboard audience detail from arcade games. We’ve seen the Crew, Need for Speed and Driverclub which none are different or better from each other and the likes of Burnout anyway.

          And the Bat mobile from Arkham Knight trailer is CGI cutscene not in game graphics so calm down.

    2. What in the world? They aren’t bashing the game at all. They are reporting the supposed facts based on their findings after testing the game. They do this for tons of games, no matter what company it comes from.

      Did you not read the whole article? They sing a lot of praise for the game too. But one can not ignore the facts – which, by the way, are not negative at all.

      People are acting like this is some doom and gloom thing. It isn’t.

  3. LOL wiiu to weak to run mario kart 8 in 1080p 60fps #Exposed#ScamTendo#WeakUDeadConfirmed#DamageControlINC

          1. How so? The other “stronger consoles” are struggling to get 1080 and when they hit 1080 they drop the frame rate. The other 2 also have easier architecture to work with yet Ninty with its “weaker” hardware is doing what these “superior” consoles are doing as well. If anything this is still good news. The Wii U isn’t as underpowered as these a holes make out to be.

  4. haha here you go. actually the visuals, textures are not even that impressive. and resolution is only 720p. the console just hit 1.5 year life, and probably already at the limit of what it can graphically do. and the problem is that it’s not important, but it will not impress the every day gamer who is sick and tired of last generation that is lasting 8 years+ while nintendo is just replicating it in 2014 with better shadows and shaders. sigh.

    1. If you count the pixels in a Mario game (or any game at all) and make a judgement based on that, You are a cancer to gaming.

      1. im counting pixels, yes, but im not talking anything about gameplay. im talking that this generation has lasted 8 years. and people are sick of it. yes wiiu will have beautiful graphics, but it will not have that “new generation” look, and at the end of 2015 it will be graphically outdated(same story as Wii).

        1. Sorry, let me reword what I said.

          If you base your enjoyment of a game on how graphically updated it is, You are a cancer to gaming.

          Psst hey btw, Wii U is current gen, Just like PS4 and Xbone . Let that sink in.

          1. Lol damn. That’s alot of cancer then. I can only imagine the people who upgraded to next gen for graphics.

            1. Next Gen? But the PS5 and Wii U2 are out yet? Or are you another idiot who confuses Next gen with Current gen.

        2. Nintendo Commander Quadraxis

          Only idiots cares about how many veins you can see on a character or how “detailed” a gun is…

          Waste of resources, time and life…

                    1. Tallon Ridley XIII: Kalas

                      He didn’t. Read the guy above his comment. He’s the one that pulled Satan into this. Yell at him, not Quadraxis.

        3. What next gen look? At this point, nobody made any real next gen game that looks slightly better than last gen counterparts.

          Next gen is just a cosmetic update and you idiots are making it a huge deal when its not.

  5. I think DF is starting to see Nintendo games looking better than some other games so they are just saying stuff now. Lol.

    1. Yeah. People always look for something to bitch about and this could be their something. Just watch how this comment section goes to shit with all the graphicswhores.

      1. Yet Titanfall is running in 795p and looks worse than Mario Kart 8… Sorry, you’re the one damage controlling ;)

          1. You just exposed yourself for being a REAL Xbot… oh how funny is this… I play Titanfall on my Xbox One for the fun gameplay, not the dull graphics that even Mario 3D World beats it… freaking Mario Galaxy’s graphics beats it and that was on the Wii… THE FUCKING WII.

        1. Why do you use Hashtagz my Fellow Nintendrone Lets play some Rehashes together >@_@>#IonlyPLayNintendo>@_@>

    2. Yes that’s what I thought, there are so many concerning about Nintendo making something that they can’t do and they start talking sheet. They are feeding the trolls only. The game really runs at 1080p 60fps.

  6. holy moly calm down guys they werent bashing the game, just stating the technical tidbits, and even said most people wouldnt notice and that the great gameplay makes up for it. Calm down.

  7. Who cares really? The game looks and runs beautifully and that’s all that matters imo! :) I cannot wait to see it run on my TV. YouTube and video players decrease the actual quality of a video upload if you didn’t know that. Friday cannot come quick enough!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD

  8. HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!
    OWNED @ all the babies claiming Mario Kart 8 would run at 1080p!!!

    The underpowered toy console Baby U running on 7 year old hardware isn’t capable of running a 2D side scrolling game at 1080p, just look at the launch 2D Mario game that was also at 720p, Donkey Kong TF runs also at 720p. And those are 2D side scrolling games that came out of the 90’s LOLOLOLOL. The Baby U can’t even run a 2D side scrolling game at 1080p LOLOLOLOL!

    As I said before, just look at the simple environments present in Mario Kart 8, the same low polygon tree (that looks like it came straight out of an N64 game) copy pasted everywhere, the same low polygon windmill copy pasted everywhere. The same low polygon bushes and flowers copy pasted everywhere LOLOLOL. Hey look, this area is a little empty, lets just copy paste a few more of those low poly trees to fill it up!!! LOLOLOL Not even with those simple low polygon backgrounds Mario Kart 8 was able to hit 1080p LOLOLOLOL. Now we learn that they not even using something as standard as anti aliasing LOLOLOLOL! Yeah Nintendo had to keep everything as simple as it is to they could barely get the game to 720p LOLOLOL. The Weak U isn’t capable of more LOLOLOLOL.

    Babies got owned with their claims that Mario Kart 8 was running at 1080p when it is NOT! Here comes the damage control from the babies HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!
    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!

    1. shut up! PS4 as a super powerful machine 900p 30 fps Watch Dogs, and even lied on his site that will work in 1080p 60 fps. hahahhahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahaaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha.. lololololololollollooooo

    2. You *still* don’t get it do you.

      A bunch of numbers still won’t change how we feel about the game because we know it’s a great game.

      At the end of the day, you’re still trying to convince yourself that it’s just not worth it so you try to find things to complain about the game to prevent yourself from crying about not having the game. Meanwhile, we are enjoying the game regardless of what a hater (secret lover) has to say about the game, even if you psychologically try to compensate for not having the game.

      At the end of the day, we just don’t care. Let that sink in.

    3. People who reviewed the game said it ran at 1080 and 60. These were no “rumors”, they put nothing “to rest”! Haters gonna hate! Peace out princess

    4. Tallon Ridley XIII: Kalas

      Filthy insect troll. Only morons & trolls use LOLOLOLOL. If you want to be taken seriously when you laugh, it’s lmao or lmfao, not LOLOLOLOL! LOLOLOLOL is redundant.

      1. i’ll laugh the way i want :D since you got so much free time just to tell me this unnecessasy stuff, you should….. i don’t know.. get a life. xoxo

        1. Tallon Ridley XIII: Kalas

          I was talking to Katamari, not you. As for me getting a life, I already have one. I can’t play video games, watch television, and interact with family/friends all the time. This is my ~me~ time.

  9. Nintendo Commander Quadraxis

    Only fake gamers cares about these things…

    Real gamers will buy this game no matter what…

    Mario Kart 8 bundle here I come…

    1. FRIDAY NEEDS TO HURRY UP! D;

      As soon as I get home from work Friday night, I’m turning on the Wii U, popping in Mario Kart 8 and playing. Then I’ll leave it on during the night to download my free copy of Zelda. ;)

  10. How IRONIC that DF have now come out and said this a week before MK8 arrives just to try and impact sales and pre orders!!!
    Seriously these guys are pathetic faggots, just as MK8 has been getting awesome reviews and EVERY reviewer saying how gorgeous its visuals are, these wankers now release this utter crap just before the game releases?LOL.
    I have NEVER seen so much butt hurt bollocks by DF just as MK8 has been OBLITERATED Watchdogs pre orders on PS4 all over the world!!

      1. Tallon Ridley XIII: Kalas

        Maybe it’s not the real Billy Ray. Or maybe he trolls for fun & this is just one of those times where he’d rather defend than troll.

      1. Jealous of their lie and damage control of Watchdogs being 1080p/60FPS and ends up 900p/30FPS?

        Nope. Not happening.

      2. Xbox One = 792p/30 fps

        Mario Kart 8 = Native 720p/60 fps..

        Soooo why would I be jealous of an uneven number that won’t look the best?

      3. Valve Admiral GLaDOS

        And your jealous that we have fun milking the lulz out of you while exposing you at the same time while you sit on your keyboard all butthurt. Lol you were even butthurt enough to call me a “fake PC gamer” on your own youtube. Exposed.

    1. I’m posting this until we get moderation of some sort on this site.

      If you base your enjoyment of a game on how graphically updated/detailed it is, You are a cancer to gaming.

      Psst hey btw, Wii U is current gen, Just like PS4 and Xbone . Let that sink in.

    2. So that means the PS4/Xbox One are last gen as well because Watch_Dogs can’t run in 1080p

  11. 59 FPS? What is this garbage? So much for getting MK8.

    Also as a little aside, the one overriding view from the reviews and from just watching videos of the game is that it looks fantastic. The numbers don’t actually matter, it’s all whether it looks good to you. Roll on May 30th, roll on.

    1. The ONLY reason DF have come out with this bollocks is to try and dampen sales and pre orders!!!
      They are just butt hurt Sony guzzlers as they thought Watchdogs was 1080p 60 fps when it is ONLY 900p and 30fps!!
      LMFAO!!!

      1. “The ONLY reason DF have come out with this bollocks is to try and dampen sales and pre-orders”

        lol No. They report their findings on tons of games – good or bad. This report is by no means negative, so why would it “dampen sales”? While this report is NOT negative, they have candidly and bluntly reported on the poor quality of some games on Sony and Microsoft systems.

        Try reading the article again. They speak high praise for Mario Kart 8 despite its few technical imperfections (which could barely count as detractors).

        1. Tallon Ridley XIII: Kalas

          Then why is Digital Foundry one of the few that are reporting it as 720p at 59fps? Their bias is evident.

          1. Because 720p/59fps is a bad thing, right?

            That was just a part of their full report. It’s not like their title was “MARIO KART RUNS AT A LOW 720p AND HAS FRAMERATE PROBLEMS!”

            No. Their title was the same as the title for any game the analyse: “Digital Foundry vs Mario Kart 8
            Mario & All-Stars Racing Refined.”

            There was so much praise for the game in the article. 720p is NOT bad. 59fps is NOT bad. Everyone reading this is just being overly negative and defensive thinking that every single report about Nintendo, if it’s not 100% perfect praise and butt kissing is bad news.

            Digital Foundry has reported many times on the massive problems and failings of games from every company. Don’t be blinded by *your* bias.

            1. Tallon Ridley XIII: Kalas

              Oh because NO ONE will ever assume 720p is a bad thing, right? You & I both have seen many people on here hating a Nintendo game simply because it’s only 720p & have even gone on to say the games look like crap at that resolution. Or maybe only I’ve been seeing these people & you just ignore them so you can defend Digital Foundry’s biased opinion & review. If I am being biased, I guess IGN & the many other reviewers saying it’s at 1080p at 60fps are also being biased since I’m basing what I’m saying on their reviews.

              1. People who assume 720p is a bad thing are ridiculous and should get out of gaming if that’s what they’re looking at. End of story.

                There will always be haters and trolls, etc. Does that make them right? By giving into their negativity and mentality that 720p *is* a bad thing, you’re giving them a win.

    2. OH NO!! 1 FPS LESS THAN 60 FPS!! OOOOOOHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

      Seriously, jog on you big baby ;)

  12. Digital Foundry does conclude with a positive assessment.
    By most standards, Mario Kart 8 is an incredibly polished game with beautiful visuals, a high frame-rate, magical playability and an excellent menu system. By Nintendo’s stratospheric standards, however, we dare say that it falls just a bit short. When a Nintendo game goes gold you better believe the final product will be complete and polished to perfection. In the case of Mario Kart 8, the issues we encountered with performance and image quality do detract just a little from an otherwise totally solid experience – and bearing in mind its previous, relentless push for gaming perfection, it leaves us wondering just how the stutter in particular managed to slip past Nintendo QA. Thankfully, the issue should only really stick out to those most sensitive to frame-rate and shouldn’t impact the experience for most people, while the sheer fun and imagination injected into this title clearly trump the technical limitations in the image make-up.
    With that in mind, don’t let these minor polish issues keep you away from the game – this is Mario Kart at its best and brightest. Racing has been refined to near perfection and its visuals are among the best on the platform. While we were a tad disappointed in the lack of a more robust single-player mode, the overall experience we had with the game was excellent. Old-school fans and newcomers alike will find a lot to love here. Now, if you’ll excuse us, we have some races to win…

          1. Canine it as much as u want, but wii u is Nintendo new console. That means next gen. Not graphics.

            1. >@_@>I dont speak Nintendroneyan >@_@>
              >@_@>XboxStrongBecauseNintendoIsDone>@_@>#NintendoFaggotsExposed

      1. Would you really like to see Mario Kart as realistic as that? It would look ridiculous and that’s why they don’t make it look like that.

  13. Mario Kart 8 is the best game in its genre last 20 years! lalallalalalallalla <3 <3 trollivi inflate it and go play your srqanje of PS4/XBO!

  14. XD My ps4 came with a faulty controller and my XB1 one had to be sent for repairs due to an optical drive failure. Yet the “cheap U” as you call it runs perfectly since day one. There is a point or two you could have made against Nintendo but quality of their products.. SORRY BUT NO. XD XD lalallalalalala ……. :-P

    1. lol sure.
      That’s why Nintendo had been producing faulty 3DS’ for months which caused the top screen getting scratched due to the frame of the lower screen. I bought a 3DS at launch and mine has those scratches.
      Besides, just because you experienced/didn’t experience something like getting faulty hardware, doesn’t mean everyone else did too. I got my PS4 since launch and didn’t have any problems with it. Even my fat PS3 is still working as well as on day one. Doesn’t mean it’s like that for everyone else too.
      Besides, your comment isn’t even relevant to the article, so what’s the point of spreading your fanboy nonsense?

      1. I have yet to receive a faulty 3ds, plus no scratches on it and I’ve had mine for a long time now…6 months to be exact. Plus even thought the ps4 is doing good, they are still having problems in finical issues. I find your comment funny though, thanks for the laugh.

        1. http://www.giantbomb.com/nintendo-3ds/3045-117/forums/3ds-design-flaw-top-screen-gets-scratched-up-by-bo-495995/

          This literally was the first result on Google. If you hadn’t heard about it, that’s your thing, but don’t act like it isn’t true when people bring it up. I had my 3DS since the European launch day back in 2011, and mine does have this flaw indeed.
          And ok, but what does the financial situation of Sony have to do with anything that’s been said? Right, nothing at all. So, why bring it up? It’s not like I said anything about Sony doing well or bad either, so… I’m rather confused about you mentioning it out of nowhere.

          1. Ok, you got a good point but it was still funny to hear. But you should becareful of how you say things too…

            “I got my PS4 since launch and didn’t have any problems with it. Even my fat PS3 is still working as well as on day one. Doesn’t mean it’s like that for everyone else too.”

            Sometimes I misread or I was in a bad mood and I take things the wrong way at times, I was not myself yesterday. So it does have something to say of Sony but I misread it and was in a very bad mood. Oh yes, that reminds me…commander, sorry for misreading of that religious comment.

  15. The only concern of this DF guys is to show how tenacious and “humble” they are to get tiny imperfections in a such an outstanding game!

  16. LMFAO at DF……BUTT HURT that Mario Kart 8 has been OBLITERATING Watchdogs pre orders all over the world, and also butt hurt that Watchdogs is 900p and 30fps and not 1080p 60fps like Ubisoft promised their team now release this bollocks?LMFAO!!
    Never seen so much butt hurt in gaming!!
    Just as Watchdogs graphics are way reduced that what was promised DF try and destroy Mario Kart 8?
    The comments on other sites about DF are hilarious!!

  17. havent been commenting hear awhile, waiting for digital foundry to expose nintendrones. so much damage control from nintendogs now after they found out iwata cheated them on framerate and resolutions. last gen mario kart 8 < forza 5

    1. Cheated?LMFAO PS4 is way more powerful thn the Wii U yet Watchdogs is ONLY 900p and 30fps!!!LMFAO!!!!!
      Ps4 cannot not even handle 1080 and 60fps when it is 10 times more powerful than the Wii U!!
      EPIC FAIL by Sony!!!

    2. Iwata nobody lied, never confirmed the strength hardware, never confirmed resolution MK8 and only we are giving a good game. Iwata CAR! lallalalalalala XD :-P hahhahahha TROLL sasorideidaraobi :—–

  18. My ps4 came with a faulty controller and my XB1 one had to be sent for repairs due to an optical drive failure. Yet the “cheap U” as you call it runs perfectly since day one. There is a point or two you could have made against Nintendo but quality of their products.. SORRY BUT NO. ahahhahahahhahahaaaaa PS4/Xbo šitli :-P

  19. OH NO!! IT’S ONE FRAME LESS THAN 60 FPS!! WE ARE SO FUCKED NOW!!

    I’m a tad bit disappoint from what I’ve heard from Reviewers but since the Xbox One can play games that look great even in 720p, I don’t see the problem. Mario Kart 8 is going to be awesome either way.
    Though I sense SasoriObininaMii is now making a YouTube video about this saying “I told you guys, exposed!” yet not realizing that most of the Xbox One games are in 720p

      1. Aren’t you one though?
        I actually go out and chat with people when I take the dog for a walk yet you spend most of your day here…. kind of hypocritical of you.

    1. you nintendrones have been exposed to the fullest extent of ever being exposed. lol i told you morons that digital foundary will expose your asses hardcore. lol

      1. Yeah, because DF always tell the truth huh? And if you believe everything they spew your way, it makes you no better then the so called “drones” you’re insulting.

      2. Yet Digital Foundry actually praised the Nintendo for the games amazing graphics… Microsoft and Sony will always get sub HD games as well but with even worse frame rates ;)

  20. I seriously doubt that a human being can tell the difference between 59 and 60fsp. If they can what of the countless “Next Gen” titles that can barely pull 30fps? They must really be painful to watch. 1fps is not slipping in quality. As far as aliasing, that seems like it would have been wise to incorporate some anti-aliasing, but who knows, with nitpicking comments such as these, DF, who has been well respected seems like a poor source of intelligent information. There may well be anti-aliasing for all I know. In any event, we are going to have a freakin’ blast.

  21. Poor Sony guzzlers!!!PS4 is 10 times more powerful than the Wii U………yet Watchdogs is ONLY 900p and 30fps after Ubisoft bragged it was 1080p and 60fps!!LMFAO!!!
    Ubisoft lied and so did Sony!!!
    A consile 10 times more powerful than the Wii U yet it still cnanot handle 1080p 60fps?LMFAO!!!

    1. Same can be said about PS4/One before system launch thinking it would easily do 1080p/60FPS and yet not one developer pulled it off for the systems yet. So touché on your end.

      1. Yes indeed you are right. Was I being touché? not sure I get why you said that….I guess it depends how one reads what I wrote. I am just interested to see if I notice it and if I can put up with it when I can not unsee it.

    1. You can still run the game in 1080p, and it is humanly impossible to see a 1fps drop, they probably pulled the images through some slow mode footage on there computer so they can point out every glaw

  22. It completely baffles me: Everybody talkes about Wii U having weak hardware. Maybe on paper. But when I’ve been playing a PS4 game for hours (Assassin’s Creed, NFS, etc.) and I switch to my Wii U I certainly don’t notice a dip in graphics quality at all.

  23. I did play the demo of Mario Kart 8 at Gamestop in Rochester and it ran smoothly. Enough hate for Nintendo ! I bet that Sony bribed the Digital Foundry to do the damage the sales of Mario Kart 8. When the video game industry crash, Nintendo would survive the crash and move on to continue making a great games.

      1. Something is really odd about that article, It is written in such a way that you’d barely notice the praise being offered for the game itself. It’s filled with colorful descriptions about how great the game is, but each word of praise is blunted by some negative reference. Nintendo has had to claw it’s way through so much media bent on their downfall to even stand where it is today. In the end, Nintendo can and will stand on their own good merit.

        1. To be honest, Mario Kart 8 actually looks better in HD than Forza 5 and Driveclub for that reason… the game is bright and colorful which is what people look for in a HDTV, you don’t see 4K TVs showing off how browns and grays look because even in 720p they still look yuck, but they don’t. They use bright colorful images that really show off the quality of the TV. So really the Wii U is perfect for someone who wants the TRUE next gen graphics experience without all those browns and grays that the Xbox One and PS4 will mainly have.

  24. Okay I really don’t rez like other people do( whole comment sections ps4 vs XBONE get old after awhile). Is digital foundry own by eurogamer or is apart of eurogamer? If thats the cause eurogamer said it was 1080p 60. Many other sites such as gamespot, ign and gameinfomer have as well. So in the end who the f lied? I know it wasn’t nintendo to my knowledge because I don’t think they official stated it. Again i really don’t care, never have. rez is most overused subject among gamers.

    1. Besides, even at 720p 59 fps – that’s still great. Seriously, this is not bad news. I have issues with MK8, but Graphics are not one of them. Anyone complaining about 720p @59- 60fps is being an idiot.

      1. I honestly don’t care rez maybe framerate to certain point, but still getting the game, people making videos, blogs and just over all a big fuss about this are being idots. I just find it weird that everybody was saying this and then they say this and they are part of that they This they and them then us they us we

  25. LOL! Thanks for posting this trolling article, I bet is pure lies and just some haters posting for attention just as this site posts this to feed the trolls and Nintendo fans getting mad and responding to their comments!

    Even GameSpot and every other fucking review, including IGN’s says this game runs at 60fps, we’ve seen videos everywhere of 60fps, so this is just pure bullshit!

    Sorry, but one article against thousands of YouTube videos, internet reviews and even IGN has 60fps video of this game on their website, what a fail attempt at attention!

    1. >@_@> MIcrosoft wins the E3 Because they show more game than Phony and Nintendont>@_@>Hahahaa>@_@>

      1. So far, the only game I see on the Xbox One any good is Sunset Overdrive… the rest are just brown and gray shooters which aren’t really good in HD…

  26. Oh my God, it’s not native 1080p, it runs at ONE FRAME LOWER THAN EXPECTED.
    Jeez, just play the game and have fun…

  27. “but upon seeing it (the game running at 59fps) for ourselves we immediately noticed that something was amiss” says everything about these people. No-one cares. Go and touch a woman or a man (whichever your preference) rather than wasting your life. The fact you immediately noticed a frame less per second is beyond sad. Seriously, go and experience the outside world.

    1. Tallon Ridley XIII: Kalas

      Seriously. One frame per second lost. Boo-hoo! There are a couple of Xbox One & PS4 games that can’t even run at max 60fps without sacrificing graphics or vice versa. These trolls are obviously the TRUE damage controllers on this site.

      1. Like how Microsoft and Sony payed them to praise their consoles… your comment is flawed beyond belieft

    1. nintendrones are scared lol. these social rejects said ign is soo baised on nintendon’t, now there ign defend their asses. LMFAO

      1. exposed nintenkiddy here trying to be me lol. you nintendogs are desperate. gtfo wii u last gen confirmed

      2. Scared? Yet you defend a console that can’t even play Watch_Dogs in 900p… give me a break kiddo ;)

  28. Nintendo is my Blood

    It looks fantastic for whatever graphics it runs, I am so going to the midnight launch

  29. Still getting it regardless, graphics shouldn’t be your deciding factor in getting this. Graphics aren’t important, it’s the gameplay. All the trolls above can play their nice graphic shit story games. I’m fine with a great story and decent graphics.

    1. >@_@>Ign Lied to Us they said its 1080p and all NintendoFanboys bragg:ooohhh 1080p MARIO KART 10 IS 1080p” Now they just sit in their corners and cry because its not locked 60fps and 1080p instead its only 480p upscaled to 720p >@_@>

  30. Is this really worth going into a panic about. So what mk8 is 720p @ 59 frames per sec, it still plays smoothly. And resolution is the thing only graphics whore bitch about.

    1. Nintendo Commander Quadraxis

      And like I said once before…

      Our empire makes our games in 720p look like 1080p…

      And so on…

  31. Who can tell the diference between 59fps and 60fps a graph in a computer?

    Hell I even enjoy games with 30fps.

    It feels awesome rhis games is gonna flop from 60 to 59 and not any lower in single player, but feankly you would never notice it that much if the gameplay is amazing.

    If the game was so boring your only entertainment could be waiting on your game to lower FPS or get close to your tv screen to count the pixels you see…. Then you should buy other kinds of games. Fun games.

  32. Ridiculous garbage this ‘article’ is! 59fps?? Whatever! I’ll listen to Nintendo as they’re making the games and THEY know what they’re creating! In any case the game looks fantastic!! Can’t wait til next weekend!

  33. Digital Foundry vs Mario Kart 8 720p 59/60 fps

    DF……BUTT HURT that Mario Kart 8 has been OBLITERATING Watchdogs pre orders all over the world, and also butt hurt that Watchdogs is 900p and 30fps and not 1080p 60fps like Ubisoft promised. Never seen so much butt hurt in gaming!! Just as Watchdogs graphics are way reduced that what was promised DF try and destroy Mario Kart 8. The comments on other sites about DF are hilarious!! All you hear about anymore is 1080p, 60FPS. Every console game must meet this goal or it sucks. It has become a issue that seems more important to gamers than gameplay itself, as it seems to be discussed more. You bought a console, you did not buy a super computer, if you went into this generation thinking everything would be 1080P, 60FPS for the next 10 years on your console you’re delusional and need a reality check. It’s not going to happen for a the majority of games, but those games can still be great, if you keep setting the bar so high for every console game out there, how are you ever going to be satisfied. The amount of importance console gamers are putting on resolution and FPS since these new consoles came out, is out of control. And sites like Digital Foundry are the main cause of this. They are stoking the flames of this console wars bullshit by comparing games on different platforms, declaring a winner, like kids in a playground arguing over who’s dad is the toughest. You were taken in by the PR spin, like give me 60FPS or give me death, and a bunch of other crap . We are already seeing this fall apart with games like DriveClub that are 30FPS, and The Order. But it doesn’t even matter, it’s been blown out of all proportions by DF and gamers taken in by this stuff. So get over it and enjoy games for what they are, not what you think they should be. Otherwise you’re never going to be happy with the vast majority of games, and we will all have to read this never ending bitching about how everything sucks and has flaws and blemishes. This new generation is already sucking a lot harder than the last, and it’s mostly down to this 1080P, 60FPS Bullshit that plagues ever console game release. STFU about it already, it’s a unrealistic benchmark to set for all console games. It completely baffles me: Everybody talkes about Wii U having weak hardware. Maybe on paper. But when I’ve been playing a PS4 game for hours (Assassin’s Creed, NFS, etc.) and I switch to my Wii U I certainly don’t notice a dip in graphics quality at all. I did play the demo of Mario Kart 8 at Gamestop in Rochester and it ran smoothly. Enough hate for Nintendo ! I bet that S/X(maybe) bribed the Digital Foundry to do the damage the sales of Mario Kart 8. When the video game industry crash, Nintendo would survive the crash and move on to continue making a great games. “but upon seeing it (the game running at 59fps) for ourselves we immediately noticed that something was amiss” says everything about these people. No-one cares. Go and touch a woman or a man (whichever your preference) rather than wasting your life. The fact you immediately noticed a frame less per second is beyond sad. Seriously, go and experience the outside world. M.K.8 720p up 1080p 59/60, how can any human being see the difference between 60fps and 59 fps without any digital help? you can’t. Couldn’t have said it better myself. Nintendo nearly got 3rd party support seeing that the Wii U can push graphics and framerates just as good as PS4 and Xbox One, until Sony and Microsoft paid out their butt to get them to forget about Nintendo, that is just proof that MC and Sony are afraid of Nintendo. Why, if Nintendo had 100% 3rd party support, the other 2 wouldn’t even exist… But still, Nintendo’s doing just fine on their own. ~Nintendo Forever~ :) <3 ;-)

  34. Don’t believe the Digital Foundry, are a bunch of clowns and Nintendo haters, the game runs at 60 fps and 1080p, proven by multiple people I’ve ever played and also sites.

      1. 720p vs Native 720p

        People say that this means the Wii U is a last gen console, but they’d be wrong. Native 720p means that the pixels are much more even and gives the users a much cleaner image than it would be if the game was upscalled to 720p, which is the next part of my talk.

        The PS3 and Xbox 360 are running in native 480p which means they upscale their games into 720p and 1080p which is why if you play a PS3/XB360 game on a big screen it looks stretched and whoopered looking.

        So overall, the Wii U is a next gen console because 720p to 1080p are the next gen resolutions.

        1. “I was parading that MK8 was in 1080p, but when I found out it was only 720p, I learned it doesn’t matter”. Damage control at its best.

          1. So you’re saying I’m damage controlling yet you twisted my words? Sounds like someone needs a new diaper because your getting butthurt ;) Also, why damage control kiddo?

            1. How did I twist your words? I literally said the same as you, summarized in a single sentence. You don’t even know what you’re saying yourself. Besides, what does twisting words have to do with damage control? What am I damage controlling?
              In your case though, damage control because Xbox One running games 720p was so funny, but when a major title like MK8 runs at 720p on WiiU, it suddenly is totally ok and doesn’t matter if it isn’t 1080p.

      2. And yet you still own and play the Wii U and still buy games to shit on it when that money already went to Nintendo.

        So who’s a flip flop drone again?

      1. Y r u calling him a slut? I don’t see him on his knees sucking dick for Sony/Microsoft like you are ;)

  35. 720p @59 fps? Um, what’s the problem? That’s going to look beautiful. I DO hope someday Nintendo doesn’t reply on low-texture, brightly colored solids someday, but for “Mario” games, it’s fine.

    Arguments over these specs are silly.

    1. u should go to ign when article says 720p everybody goes full retard. I’ll be sure to share my opinion with u on mk 8 once I’ve played it for awhile

      1. Sweet. Thank you! I do want to get it soon enough to get the download code ;) I should get enough feedback within a week with the flow of info on Miiverse.

  36. Well here’s something to work out.

    if the game is indeed 720p 60FPS, then it is technically impossible to do 1080p 60FPS for two players, and that was confirmed ages ago.

    Still looking really forward to it.

    Really needing something to play right now.

    1. Have you tried Scram Kitty? It’s REALLY hard, but if you’re into those kinds of things, it’s amazing.
      Also, for $3, Swords and soldiers is a good time killer.
      I’ve been doing a lot of 3DS gaming though. Cranking through some RPG’s while waiting for WiiU to give me another game.

    2. Native 720p and 1080p and between them are basically Next Gen Resolutions because the last gen had to upscale to 720p and even if they wanted 1080p, they could only upscale to 1080i which looked awful.

  37. all the desperate nintendrones damage controlling here, theres even one trying to be me. butt hurt that there game is last gen 720 30. lucky im getting xbox 360 with call of duty 4, mas effect, red ded redemption, and gta vi. nintendogs can only play kiddy Mario games lmao

    1. >@_@>XboxStrongBecauseNintendoIsDone>@_@>#NintendoFaggotsExposed#WiiGotNogamesForU#ScamTendoCanSuckdick

    2. 720p 30FPS? Already sound blind and stupid. They clearly said “native 720p at 60FPS” with one freaking framerate drop that’s never gonna be noticeable.

      And just to ruin your parade of trolling, look at the Titanfall video below and its constant framerate scale drops. Its like a fucking earthquake of framerate hiccups and you think Wii U is weak? lol

  38. Funny that they put these news very close to the day of the release of the game, seem to already know what kind of idiots are taken willingly by these lies and some (at least the idiots) end up leaving the game because of these lies.

    1. >@_@>Happy Nintendrones Damage Control Day>@_@>#YouGotExposed#CorparateSlave#Fraud#Lier#Scammer#Rapist

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    1. And not to mention the game but it’s more a boring FPS, has last generation graphics, Xbox360 level (no wonder was released for his own).

    2. Fun game, but that would have to be my major complaint about the game. Mario Kart 8 looks amazing even in 720p.

  40. Are there any intelligent posters on here anymore? I only see a couple of them these days. All I ever see is fanboys of every system acing like children and cursing at each other over the stupidest little things. Let me know when anyone wants to have serious conversations without flame throwing nonsense every other comment. Jaded Dry Bones and Snowman are the only two regular intelligent posters I see usually anymore.

    1. IKR?

      Digital Foundry is talking like a fanboy nippicking one slight problem that’s 99.9 percent unnoticeable.

  41. SherlockWillFightBilbo

    I thought Nintendo themselves confirmed it was 1080p 60 FPS. I thought Eurogamer or Edge confirmed this as well.

    1. Digital Foundry’s analysis sounds more like nippicking then thorough testing and they’ve been testing on undisclosed TV unit and output which makes this analysis more of an unresolved confirmation.

  42. It’s fucking MARIO KART for Christ’s sakes, do we need to be able to see the shit in Donkey Kong’s fur? What a pointless game to get hung up on graphics about.

  43. Remember when people bought consoles just to play games? Miss that, now all they are doing is shoving their face up to a screen checking to see if the graphics are worth their time. Sad generation for gaming.

    1. Nintendo Commander Quadraxis

      That’s why I only stick to our empire because they are the ones not bothering with such foul garbage…

      1. I have wii U and ps4, not really biased towards any of them. I just get them because I like gaming and they have their perks. Nintendo and their first party and sony with their jrpg. As I’ve said below I don’t care about graphics as long as the gameplay and story is at least decent.

          1. Valve Admiral GLaDOS

            And when you get your wish granted, please, use it to buy a brain, and please, cow dung is not a good alternative.

    1. Lol I know right? Good for some laughs. But no, I’m for the gameplay and the story, I could care less about the graphics, those who worry about that alone are a shame to it >.>

    1. Valve Admiral GLaDOS

      An indescribable feeling is happening in my personality cores…
      I never thought I see the day, it brings me…
      Happiness?

        1. Valve Admiral GLaDOS

          I don’t know, I really never had something like this found within my personality cores, not sure if enjoying watching the fails of others is the same thing …

      1. Of course they’ll say that, admitting that they’ve reached the WiiU’s maximum performance 1 1/2 years after its release isn’t something people would like to hear. Not saying they’ve actually reached its max. power, of course I wouldn’t know, it’s not like I helped developing MK8 or something, but yea, making a statement like “we pushed it to its limits” isn’t very smart, in my opinion, especially if the game turns out to be “only” 720p. Saying “there’s still plenty of room for higher performance” simply contradicts the first statement and makes it hard to believe any of the things they’ve said.
        But even if there really is plenty of room to push out more power, which I’d like to believe, are developers actually going to bother? If even Nintendo themselves managed getting as much power out as they did for MK8 a whole year and a half after the WiiU’s release, I honestly don’t think there will be many other developers to actually bother to do the same or even better. Only my personal thoughts though, of course you don’t have to agree or anything.

        1. Yet didn’t Sony/Microsoft companies already said they maxed out the PS4/Xbox One hardware but didn’t want to admit it? Order 1886 is pretty much all your gonna get from the PS4 and that was like what… 8 months?

          1. What do Sony and Microsoft have to do with anything I’ve just said? My god, is it really not possible to have a decent conversation with you? Do you really have to bring up Sony and Microsoft in every single of your comments? You need to realize that it’s annoying and doesn’t contribute to the conversation at all. Just because Sony and Microsoft did something in whatever way, does it mean Nintendo shall not/is forced to do it the same way? What are you even trying to say, honestly. Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft can do their thing the way they want to, regardless of what the others do.
            And I really don’t even know what you mean by “Order 1886 is pretty much all your gonna get from the PS4 and that was like what… 8 months?” Other than the grammar being terrible, it’s also wrong. There are a bunch of games coming to PS4 this year, next year and most likely the years after that too.

              1. Hmmm I’m a “Rabid fanboy” yet I own all three consoles and enjoy them all… your logic is flawed

    1. And so much for Digital Foundry making early predictions without testing and then nippicking while testing with different TV outputs.

      I don’t believe their BS one bit. I personally played the game and never notice any hiccup at any point and the visuals look stunning so I think this article is means to trolls and shit on this game just in time to ruin its launch. I smell suspicions in the air coming from them.

      1. SherlockWillFightBilbo

        “This may not seem like a big deal – most will probably not notice it at all…” If it IS there, you would apparently have to be very perceptive or have to look for it to see it.

  44. GTA5 gets away with murder, but a Nintendo game steps one frame out of place and everyone has their torches and pitchforks ready…

    1. It seems everybody is expecting Nintendo to be the lead dominate console of choice by monopolizing every last aspects of gaming. They respect competition and give these companies a chance to grow, compete and learn on their own turf to expand the market. It would suck if only one brand exists. Look at what happened to Atari. A good two or three (except Xbox) is good enough.

      Nintendo could take the market if they want but they won’t want to in order to keep it alive by limiting sources considerably but not so much to eliminate themselves from competing for the spot of the living rooms.

      1. Seems like an honest analysis they did, thanks. But I was more talking about how reviewers forgave its broken online or multiplayer or whatever, giving it a phenomenal score despite this glaring problem.

  45. These guys were seriously annoyed by a dip in one frame from the overall experience, when most supposedly 60fps games dip to 30fps? Of course this article riles up the trolls on how the Wii U is so weak.

  46. DIGITAL Foundry lol bunch of morons DIPS tvsrefresh between 59 and 60 frames a perfect 60 isnt realistic its a reference to frame speed

    tvs refresh at 59 to 60 frames SAME AS MK8 theres no dip here, thebtv refresh rate averages 59.5 frames we dont see in seconds we see in fluidness its clearly a true 60 frames DIPS lol

    snd 720 is irrelevent its as sharp as diamond this game its bright vibrant colourful and has great detail native 720 with polished 1080p video out is no differant to native 1080p in experience at viewing distence its not going to make a blind bit of difference to the visual experience

    1. 720p vs Native 720p

      People say that this means the Wii U is a last gen console, but they’d be wrong. Native 720p means that the pixels are much more even and gives the users a much cleaner image than it would be if the game was upscalled to 720p, which is the next part of my talk.

      The PS3 and Xbox 360 are running in native 480p which means they upscale their games into 720p and 1080p which is why if you play a PS3/XB360 game on a big screen it looks stretched and whoopered looking.

      So overall, the Wii U is a next gen console because 720p to 1080p are the next gen resolutions.

      1. Try telling Ice(Shit)EatenJudger, GrapeAss and Sasori the Brokeback Gorilla that. Their so called “mind” is set to nippick on games and systems over fucking resolution, graphics and little hardware numbers to its least extent. To them, buying games is about admiring hardware and Photoshopped pictures instead of how the software works which if you buy hardware without key software to run it and make it useful, where’s the point of having such hardware anyway? That money is wasted even before it was spent.

  47. digital found a troll are fucking idiots

    wiiu cpu is 20 years old its gpu isnt next gen thete compleat morons and it has 1 t-sram witch it doesnt MORONS

    the cpu is custom made and a world leader in edram catch ,the gpu was a compleat mistory to digital foundery and they admitted they didnt have a clue what was in there only a guess of edram

    1. The GPGPU is either a HD 6770 or a FirePro 4000 series. Which since the PS4 and Xbox One are only using the HD 7000 series graphics chips, doesn’t really make them anymore next gen than the Wii U.

      1. i hope you know gpugpu doesn’t mean the power of 2 gpu. wii u’s gpu is at amd a6 3000 while ps4 is at amd a8 7200 or even more.

        1. Not really, if you did your research you’d know that the Wii U is running on hardware found in the HD 5000/6000 GPUs. PS4/Xbox One are using HD 7000 gpu’s

          Plus, you’re forgetting the Wii U is running on a GPGPU, I’ve never heard of this GPUGPU.

        2. I see you clearly don’t do your homework on how processors work besides looking at numbers for a brief period like an ignorant fool. Its like peaking at somebody’s answers during a test because you wanna look smart but realize you’re a failure either way.

          Go research again what GPGPU does, which is the latest version and which one the Wii U is using before dare coming back pretending to be what you’re not; an informative individual.

        1. and?, come here and force me to cancel my preorder. Again, show you are a man and destroy your Wii U in front of the people you hate. Make a video, show us you really hate Nintendo. Who will judge you???

        2. Again, Direct X 11 running on primitive and energy hungry circuitry isn’t as practical. Look at Xbox One’s blowing up and malfunction because of all of that power it drains to run itself and yet can’t pass 800p at best.

          And Unreal Engine 4 wasn’t even announced to be tested on Wii U yet to be confirmed supported or not.

          Try again.

        3. Valve Admiral GLaDOS

          Can run cry engine 4, a mure more superior engine to unreal, your argument is rendered invalid, now cry on your youtube and try to expose me, like to watch you fail again while I laugh.

          1. Tallon Ridley XIII: Kalas

            He obviously didn’t hear that Unreal Engine 4 CAN work on the Wii U if a developer takes the time to do so.

  48. there were no rumors about it being naitve 1080p nintendo themselves stated it was 1080p and 60fps

  49. I TOLD you idiots. 720p native. All the screenshots Nintendo released were 720p…are you seriously surprised?

    1. 720p screenshots possibly coming from a 720p TV set to make the game look like its in 720p without also testing it on a more resolution rich TV that is 1080p or 4k.

      Yeah. You really bought that crap so quick. How about buying the game or try a demo in Gamestop that actually runs on a TV set in 1080p to see what it looks like and how it runs. The only way for anyone to learn what’s true to research and experiment for yourself.

      In that analysis video, it only showed a framerate graph of the game. Nothing was said or shown about TV Resolution output set for the test. So how about you go find your common sense and put it back into work to realize what’s true. I played the game myself and already know this test is suspiciously fishy.

  50. Does anyone know where I can get Xenoblade or Metroid Prime Trilogy without paying the price of a Wii U?

  51. I’m beginning to think this analysis is kinda suspicious. Not only they’re nippicking one frame rate drop but switching TV outputs which can affect the performance outlook by slightest. I played the game at Gamestop and never notice a single frame rate drop in any point and saying only one frame rate drop happens occasionally. .I can tell this is off.

    And the 720p part again? Oh boy, I can tell there’s gonna be an army of shitters over this one.

    1. dont try nd downplay this dipshit. its funny how ubisoft was able to make rayman legends their own 2d platformer run 1080p/60fps while nintendon’t cant even run their 2d platforms and other games at 1080p/60fps. ubisoft does what nintendon’t.

      1. Funny thing is… isn’t Rayman Legends on the Wii U running in Native 1080p at 60 fps? So you kind of pwned yourself there

      2. So you’re now saying Wii U CAN do 1080p/60FPS?

        Changing up stories doesn’t make you any smarter or logical.

        As for Rayman Legends being 1080p/60FPS, its all hand drawn animation while Super Mario Bros. U has 3D models and overworld/background on a 2D plane which can affect max resolution output due to higher polygon count and modeling.

        Try again because Ubisoft with their cocky ass saying “Oh we got a bigger magic dick and make 1080p/60FPS Watchdogs happen” and then turned to “Watchdogs at 900p/30FPS max due to *cue damage control* sacrificing some aspects to achieve the best fidelity as possible” is just as pathetic as EA saying current gen gaming is the 3rd gen when there’s 8 gaming generations so far.

        1. lol its funny how ubisoft is even using the wii u hardware even better than nintendon’t. XD

          1. Repeating what we already and painfully read idiot.

            The only good thing Ubisoft did for Nintendo was helping fans realize what hypocrite, cocky jackasses they are and cease supporting their “Wii U optimism” lies and delayed/gimped garbage.

    2. Dude, chill. I was a bit arogant, parading that MK8 was in 1080p like the rest of you but then I learned it doesn’t really matter. Here is my quote from a few comments back:

      720p vs Native 720p

      People say that this means the Wii U is a last gen console, but they’d be wrong. Native 720p means that the pixels are much more even and gives the users a much cleaner image than it would be if the game was upscalled to 720p, which is the next part of my talk.

      The PS3 and Xbox 360 are running in native 480p which means they upscale their games into 720p and 1080p which is why if you play a PS3/XB360 game on a big screen it looks stretched and whoopered looking.

      So overall, the Wii U is a next gen console because 720p to 1080p are the next gen resolutions.

      So it doesn’t really matter and here is another example:

      Please tell me which one is different –

      http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/sqNZ7gFKQFs/maxresdefault.jpg

      1. You don’t have to post the same comment a trillion times. It was already pathetic the first time you posted it.
        First of all, you don’t seem to know what “generation” even means. The resolution of a game doesn’t define if a console is last, current or next gen.
        Second thing, a console can’t be in 720p or 1080p or anything-p. A game can.
        And third and last thing, there are plenty of games on both PS3 and Xbox360 that run with native 1080p, get your facts straight. And those look great on my big TV screen. Sure, there aren’t as many native 1080p games as upscaled ones, but saying they only have native 480p with upscaling is utter bullshit.
        I’d suggest you to correctly inform yourself before making comments full of shit.

        1. So your Xbox 360 on day one had an HDMI port in it?

          I’m sorry but your comment makes me want to laugh, the less consoles are running in 480p Native and I never said resolutions doesn’t define a console. The Wii U has so many Native 720p to 1080p games on it, same with the Xbox One and PS4 whiles the last gen consoles could only play games in 1080i, 720p upscalled and native 480p. I did get a good laugh out of your uneducated comment I might add seeing all the butthurt you came out of your ass.

          Finally, I said “to” not “or”, this means they can do 720p up to 1080p so anything in between is still classified as a generation of hardware you dumb twat. damage control somewhere else kiddy, because you just go owned ;0

          1. Your comment is so damn hard to understand, it’s unbelievable. I think I somehow managed though, so here goes:
            I never said I own a Xbox360, so you needa stop making assumptions.
            “the less consoles are running in 480p Native and I never said resolutions doesn’t define a console.” What exactly is that even supposed to mean? I said it in my previous comment already, consoles don’t run in 480p, if at all, games do. And you never said the resolution doesn’t define a console? Well, I didn’t either, check your eyes. I said the resolution doesn’t define the generation of a console you bag of shit.
            And yea, I will again suggest you to check your facts because there are many last gen games that run in native 720p and native 1080p. There is no such thing as “last gen OOOOONLY can run on 1080i, upscaled 720p and native 480p, everything else is not possible!!!!!!1!1!11!!1!”. Check your facts and stop making yourself look like a bigger idiot than you already do.
            And butthurt? Do you even know what that means? Obviously not, or you wouldn’t have used it in this context. The only uneducated comment(s) I can see here are yours, both grammar and content suck balls.
            And Finally, I never said you said “or” not “to”, so what are you even talking about. And what anything inbetween what? Anything inbetween 720p and 1080p or what. You say things without even making clear what you’re relating them to, so how do you expect people to understand what you mean?
            And why kiddy? You don’t even know how old I am. I might be older than you, how would you know? Assumptions aren’t going to take you anywhere.
            And owned? How? You just continued talking total crap and proved my point of your comments being full of shit. And damage control? Seriously? You seriously need to stop using words without even knowing what they mean.

              1. Thanks for your quality answer, just proves me that you’ve realized you’re utterly wrong and have nothing to counter my arguments with because you know I’m right. :)

          2. i hope you know it possible to have an hdmi add on the older xbox 360 or a game could downgrade to 480p visuals if hdmi port isnt there. lol

            1. You don’t say? oOo… Wow, your going to into full damage control mode it is just so funny XD

              The Xbox 360 can only do 480p. 530p and 600p whilst upscalling into 1080i and 720p.

          3. You lost me at “Xbox One having 1080p games” which we all know is BS. Its known for being an UPSCALED 720p TV/DVR Box than a 1080p gaming console like Wii U and PS4.

            1. You lost me at “I didn’t read the whole thing”… wow, you are a fanboy aren’t you… I’m helping you guys talk some sense into these twats yet you attack me? Xbox One does have 1080p games (not many at the moment) and again, I was pointing out the obvious.

  52. They must have waited till like 7 players had lightning bolts and threw them all at once to lag the game down a frame

  53. Seriously who the fuck cares… Te game is fun from what I’ve played in the demo so it’s still a buy for me. I play games to have fun not to cry about the games short comings. Even if it isn’t exactly as promised it’s still damn close enough for me.

  54. If it’s a good game its a good game. I just feel bad that Nintendo could have dobe more for this game to utilize the gamepad. Also, i’ve often said in my opinion that too much focjs on graphics is killing gaming. Why? Because of the high cost involved now to make game. Devs and companies spend a lot for 1 game to make it “pretty” and kt does not sell because of bad gameplay then lots of people lose their job and some companies close.

      1. Valve Admiral GLaDOS

        And people already created a Xbone/ps4 emulator, it’s called a PC and it will always ass stomp your own PC and your Xbone

    1. Nintendo Commander Quadraxis

      It’s already halfdead and the part that still lives is getting so much hate…

      1. Everybody now is forgetting what made video games meaningful in the first place and who we should thank for saving the gaming market and provided many new competitions to spawn more great hits over the years.

  55. There was once a prince, and he wanted a princess, but then she must be a real Princess. He travelled right around the world to find one, but there was always something wrong. There were plenty of princesses, but whether they were real princesses he had great difficulty in discovering; there was always something which was not quite right about them. So at last he had come home again, and he was very sad because he wanted a real princess so badly.

    One evening there was a terrible storm; it thundered and lightninged and the rain poured down in torrents; indeed it was a fearful night.

    In the middle of the storm somebody knocked at the town gate, and the old King himself sent to open it.

    It was a princess who stood outside, but she was in a terrible state from the rain and the storm. The water streamed out of her hair and her clothes; it ran in at the top of her shoes and out at the heel, but she said that she was a real princess.

    ‘Well we shall soon see if that is true,’ thought the old Queen, but she said nothing. She went into the closet, dusted off the Wii U and popped in Mario Kart 8. This was where the princess was to game that night. In the morning they asked her how she played.

    ‘Oh terribly bad!’ said the princess. ‘I could nary finish a single race! Heaven knows what was wrong with the framerate. It seemed to be repeating one out of every sixty-four frames on occasion, and my whole vision is blurry this morning. It is terrible!’

    They saw at once that she must be a real princess when she had felt the frame being repeated. Nobody but a real princess could have such a delicate eyesight.

    So the prince took her to be his wife, for now he was sure that he had found a real princess, and the repeated frame was put into the Museum, where it may still be seen if no one has stolen it.

    Now this is a true story.

  56. I dont pay attention to dumb shit like 300 frames per second dont much care about dumb stuff like that its pointless to me I just want to play a awesome Mario cart game with new tracks cool music and good gameplay that’s the only thing that I care about

  57. Good lord, 59 frames? That is such a significant decrease. I think I’m going to have a heart attack and die from such a supermassive framerate drop.

  58. Wow its funny with all the haters on here. I honestly was a little disappointed to hear about the 720p because I know some people just like a good look game. I own a PS4 and Wii u, and the reason being is I love to play nintendo game because they are really fun but would never match up to the online support from the PS4 plus the support from applications like CrunchyRoll.

  59. I’ll take 59fps over 30. I’m glad that Nindendo’s pushing for 60 for recent titles, since games look smooth that way. I wish more console games did the same.

    1. And besides, WTF is gonna notice one little framerate drop anyway while playing? The game is already stable enough to sustain 60FPS mostly. As for the native 720p, IDK what to believe about that or if DF is even telling the truth or thoroughly tested the game more than once with different TV resolution sets to confirm it but I know for sure MK8 is well crafted and looks/runs beautifully. Maybe it didn’t achieve native 1080p but there’s always another day and another Wii U game coming that can hit that mark without much problems. And let’s be real about one thing: None of the consoles haven’t been performing to their maximum strenghts as of yet and the 8th gen just started a year ago. We can’t pull off such level of miracles this soon. Not even the so called “powerful” PS4 cant even nail 1080p/60FPS or 30FPS flawlessly either and as for Xbox One, let’s just say it shouldn’t be called a legit game console anymore since its nothing more than a Cable box set with a failed camera illegally spied on from NSA.

      1. lol your damage control is soo pathetic. i can’t even believe you still downplaying this. i said the other day mario kart 8 will run 1080p 60 fps, now you sweating bullets, damage controling, and now flip floping? lol exposed.

        1. Speaking of sweating balls and flip flopping, why are you jumping into my A&B conversation acting like you haven’t been doing the same shit for months to years before now?

          Look who’s hoping dick after dick to make himself feel good nonstop over one tiny ass nitpick like a dumb whore out of a XXX video store (your mother I bet).

          Downplaying what exactly? I’m not confessing shit. All I said was what is there to believe in anymore when everybody today don’t research shit right and jump into the wagon of retardation of taking one sided stories which its what exactly you always do so don’t even try to get it twisted motherfucker especially around me.

          And there you go again exposing yourself with the 1080p MK8 argument. You’re beyond fucking stupid that you can’t remember WTF you typed down in your basement bedroom because you wasted too much time on that ancient ass PC of yours typing the most ridiculous shit on the interest that has numb your leftover brain.

            1. That reminds me. I kinda liked the Chainchomp item in DD, haha.

              6 more days. 6 more days. 6 more days. It feels like I’ve been saying that for an eternity.

  60. wooo 400 comments. thats pretty impressive. 350 were full of damage controlling,flip floping and lying.

      1. He even tried to blend in with the crowd agreeing with MK8 being at 1080p just a short time ago so he would pathetically avoid anymore embarassing debunking and burn comebacks.

        What a dumb pussy.

    1. The human eye CAN see 60 fps but we can’t see anything over 1080p, 4k looks nice but it’s producing images that even our human eyes can’t see the difference.

  61. PlayStation Vita flopped Xbox one flopped the ps4 is barely out selling the Wii U the 3ds has sold over 40 million units worldwide and the Wii U still only has a few must own games pikmin3 3dmario party u nintendo land mk8 is almost here next is smash…. I honestly believe nintendo haters are just shitting their pants because they’re afraid to like nintendo and have people know that they like nintendo games… fuckin sissy’s grow up

  62. Hate to say it but Double Dash was 60FPS….and that was on 4 player split screen!! That being said, Double Dash was my favorite Mario Kart so I’m okay with that :)

      1. I don’t think so. SNES wasn’t even capable of 60 fps, so it LOOKS like 60 fps but really it’s running at 20 FPS

  63. Stranga’s loins are filled with Trisomy 21, which will birth “Mongolians of unnatural decent”.. Your the biggest Damage Controller on this damn site. You make Nintendo Commander and Valve Glados look pro Sony. If Nintendo representatives (specifically) Iwata was to forcefully have anal penetration with your significant other you would downplay it and tell us that it was her fault in the first play for being slutty and seducing them and then would make excuses that you were honored to be apart of the Nintendo family because Iwata’s child was growing inside of her…

  64. I’m confused. Are we just into games that are 1080p/60 and anything less we fuss and not play the game? Yet games less than 1080p/60 are more fun and the 1080p/60 are really a bore……unless you like movies.

  65. Here’s what I want to know. If games on PS4 at 1080p 60FPS is all you trolls perfer and PS4 is selling rather well, why want you trolls be sure PS4 1080p games 60fps also remain in top 10 best sellers? Funny how 360 and PS3 and 3DS software remains top ten and Wii U, Xbox One and PS4 software stays top ten a week. Last I chcked Wii U, PS4 ánd Xbox One visuals look better so why are 360/ps3 tittles with weaker graphics out doing next generation software? Yet trolls make a big deal of 59/60fps.

  66. It makes no difference what framerate it is. It looks great and its going to be the game that me and my friends will be playing all summer . Booyah! : D

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