Patent analyst Florian Mueller has written an in-depth analysis of the lawsuit Nintendo and The Pokemon Company has hit indie developer Pocketpair with. The two companies are seeking an injunction to halt Palworld sales in Japan and is looking to claim $65,600 in royalties, plus late payment damages. Mueller says that the whole case is a “clear case of bullying” and “Nintendo wants to wage patent lawfare over game rules.” You can read his full thoughts here.
“First, it is a clear case of bullying. Nintendo is a far older and larger company than Pocketpair with extensive experience in patent prosecution and patent infringement litigation. What Nintendo originally insinuated in a public statement (January 25, 2024 games fray article) was that Pokémon-specific intellectual property rights or “assets” (such as graphics) were used in the making of Palworld. It would obviously be unlawful to attach the Pokémon label to a third-party game, or to import Pokémon characters into another game, without permission.
Back in January when Nintendo issued the statement, it apparently had nothing specific in its intellectual property portfolio to underpin its suggestion of infringing acts on Pocketpair’s part.
All that Nintendo has done in the meantime is
- to file new patent applications (in February, March and July of this year) building on older patent filings from 2021 and
- to assert those game rule patents in Japanese court.
But Nintendo has not made any argument under trademark law (“Nintendo” and “Pokémon” obviously being among the gaming industry’s most valuable trademark rights). identified a single patent that existed at the time of Palworld’s release (or Nintendo’s statement) and was allegedly infringed, shown an infringement of any other type of intellectual property right, such as copyright (in images) or design rights or “made any argument under trademark law (“Nintendo” and “Pokémon” obviously being among the gaming industry’s most valuable trademark rights).
Apparently there is an “analyst” for everything. 🤷♂️ I’m a toilet analyst, by the way.
I’m fighting in Palworlds corner on this one.
Nintendo takes a dub for suing the dude who streams emulated and pre-released games but they take an L for this.
yeah no shit, game freak after making shitty games for years somehow feel threatened when someone makes a game that is 5/10 quality with shitty ass uninspired monsters. not only they are wrong, but they deserve it too. Pokèmon ZA better be good lazy bastards.
Just don’t copy and no company will have legal problems.
First off, there wasn’t any direct copying, just inspiration. Secondly, if no one ever took inspiration for anything, we’d be a buncha cave cavepeople without a culture or any technology. Palworld is great, Pokemon hasn’t been great since maybe Black & White 2, Nintendo is 110% in the wrong for this one. It’s undeniable, and it’s such a bad move on their part that it’s big news even on the mainstream non-gaming media side.
It’s such a bad move that it has me rethinking getting the Switch successor – I have a giant library of Switch games, and they’d run a lot better emulated on my GPD handheld PC. Don’t need to support Nintendo for that.
Nintendo/TPCi might be bullying PocketPair but they have a case, so I’m not taking sides here.
Nintendo is not bullying their consumers or gamers just for pirate and leak content. They are extremely protective of their IPs for years and they want to remain as a safety net like home owner insurance.
I have no sympathy for Palworld with this. Absolute creative bankruptcy on full display. Clear copycat designs, tracing 3D models, mish-mash of stolen ideas.
Willing to bet anyone “in their corner” has never created something original in their life and probably pirate most of their games. Leeches.
100%. Hilarious to see anyone defend pocket pair on this. Creative bankruptcy is an understatement.
I haven’t created anything original and I completely agree with you.
Are you sure you’re not just projecting your OWN fears regarding YOUR intellectual property?
“I-I-I IM SIDING WITH NINTENDO”
And then proceeds to talk about another issue that is not even the focal point of the discussion.
yeah we know megamansurvives, we know you can’t think for yourself without dickriding Nintendo, you don’t have to say that you support Nintendo every time.
Yeah, but sometimes some of those ideas could be as a inspirations to those appearances for people’s designs such as 2D or 3D model designs.
Creative bankruptcy? Have you played a mainline Pokemon game in the last decade? There’s a good example of creative bankruptcy. They finally tried to evolve the gameplay in Legends but kept the same old formula for S/V.
That’s because the main game need to keep the old formula, it’s not hard to understand that, the game has a competitive scenario, it can’t just change, like CS, Overwatch or any other competitive game.
Total nonsense. There is no “tracing” of 3D models, if there was this lawsuit would be very different. And as for a mish-mash of stolen ideas and copy cat designs, that literally applies to Pokemon as well. Last but not least, Nintendo isn’t even going after them for the creature designs, but game mechanics. None of which are “creative”, unless you think the idea of being able to ride a creature and switch between mounts is some sort of creative mechanic. Or throwing an item that leads to combat or catching a creature.
willing to bet you don’t understand the consequences this will have on the video games industry at large, particularly the indie scene.
Who cares if Nintendo is bullying or have a valid case, all i care about is what happens to the players who already purchased Palworld if it gets de listed do the players get a refund or nah.
At this point, the modding community needs to step in and future-proof this game, because a legal/court case scenario is only going to go as well as you would expect it to. Look who our president is now…..
Miracles don’t exist like they used to (if ever), so it’s better to just bunker down and do the equivalent of panic buy (I can’t think of the right term).
Aww you really thought Kamala was going to help America after saying everything she said she was going to do when she first got in office 3 years ago and still had yet to even try to implement them, people like you are naive, ya sure Nintendo is in the right for protecting their property but their just pissed because they haven’t made a good Pokemon game since the 90s I mean come on now we have Pokemon that are shoes with eyes on them it’s sad plus their making everyone hate them for taking down all the emulators sure I don’t mind paying for the game but if I lose it you really think I’m going to pay another 60$ for a game that came out 5 years ago if their going to take down emulators than they need to lower their prices cause the damn switch has been 400$ since day one with no plan to lowing my it… I’m sorry but I’m on pal worlds side it’s nice to see something good come out of a very nastalgic game maybe some you should take Nintendo’s dck out your mouths and open your eyes, Nintendo’s not coming up with any ideas to make Pokemon better they lost that creative touch they had in the 90s I mean come on they remade pearl and diamond when a company has to remake sht that means their out of ideas
w-what the fuck is wrong with some people on this site man
It’s about Pocket Pair’s partnership with Sony.
I didn’t hear about that, it means a lot, thanks fof the information !
Too bad money is king because Nintendo should otherwise be ashamed to have it’s name associated with the low-quality Pokemon games that have come out recently. And this makes them look even worse.
Ah yes. It makes Nintendo look bad when it’s defending it’s property, IPs, and patents, but not Pocket Pair when they blatantly rip off Pokemon designs and a mechanic that was clearly copied from Pokemon. There’s only so much someone can do before they become the bad guy. Pocket Pair is the bad guy here.
You lost me at “defending it’s property” since Palworld didn’t take any property from Nintendo. If it did, Nintendo would be suing for copyright but it’s only for the gameplay patents, which are ridiculous. It’s just Nintendo throwing it’s weight around at a small dev who showed them up with a simple indie game.
After their Collab with Sony, they can’t use the small dev excuse anymore.
And regurgitang “Nintendo is within their rights” is a clear case of being uninspired white-knights, alongside other forms of regurgitation:
-“A rushed game is forever bad”
-“You live long enough to see yourself become a villain”
-“You had ONE job!”
-“[Insert thing here] be like”
Quoting this shit doesn’t make you endearing or charming.
It’s funny to see some people claim that Nintendo is not in their right knowing that they will be the first to cry if the same thing were to happen to them… hypocrisy, hypocrisy…
Otherwise, instead of playing populist justice, let’s let the courts do it, we’ll see what comes of it… I still doubt that it concerns only the 3 patents cited, it’s too light and Nintendo is not stupid to the point of just “intimidating”.
this comment is basically
1) Fake scenario
2) ”LE LAW IS ALWAYS LE RIGHT” even though it’s extremely biased towards the people who can spew more money during a lawsuit, which is also stated by the patent analyst meaning that you didn’t even read the article
Sofiona im always amazed by your comments
this comments is basically this:
1) Fake scenario
2) ”LE LAW IS ALWAYS…LE RIGHT….BECAUSE IT JUST IS OK?!” without even aknowledging the fact that the law is extremely biased towards the people who can spew the largest amount of money during a lawsuit, something that the patent analyst wrote in the article meaning that sofiona didn’t even read it and ust straight up difended nintendo without the knowledge
Wow sofiona what an awesome comment
I see what you did there. Nintendo is suing over gameplay patents. It’s very hard to defend the idea of gameplay patents so you also speculated that there’s MORE to the case (like copyright or something) so you’re not forced to be in the uncomfortable position of defending the existence of gameplay patents :)
I am boycotting Nintendo over this. this is the first year there wont be any Nintendo under the Christmas tree since 1988
Funny how it’s always the same few people getting into childish arguements again and again on this site huh?
It’s almost like their lives are so utterly devoid of meaning and that this is the only social interaction they get, angrily defending/condemning a video game company that makes games for children, as if it’ll make any difference whatsoever.
Kinda sad really, mostly pathetic though.
So is it funny, sad, or pathetic? Pick a lane, stalker.
Oh dear, I seem to have struck a nerve…
So, I’m a stalker… how, exactly? For making a very obvious observation that anyone who frequents this website could make?
The very fact that you’ve replied so aggressively to my prior comment shows that you at least possess enough self-awareness to realise that you are indeed one of the people of whom I spoke.
I’ll give you some advice; If you don’t want your actions to be scrutinized by other people, perhaps don’t post them on a public forum my dear.
Oh, and it’s all three really. Your angry little arguments with each other are inherently sad and pathetic, and your response labelling me a “stalker” has provided the comedy~
I didn’t know you were referring to me. I’m so flattered now that you notice and remember mee
Funny how the comment section is made for the specific purpose of expressing our thoughts and you are so incredibly dumb that you criticize people who are using the comment section to express their opinion, nobody fucking wants you here go do your “IM BETTER THEN EVERYONE HERE” elsewhere
What an ironic reply.
You seem to have, hilariously, missed the fact that my comments were also just me “expressing my thoughts and opinions”, even if they were opinions that you personally didn’t like hearing.
The fact that your idea of “expressing thoughts and opinions” is angrily calling each other childish names instead of discussing a topic calmly like fully grown adults, I’m afraid that says a lot about you as a person.
Not that we particularly needed to know anything more about your character though, seeing as you write like an angry 10-year-old on Twitter.
Do try to type slightly more coherently, won’t you? It does wonders for getting people to take your arguments seriously.
Again, such an angry response to my comment shows that I really must’ve hit a nerve with you. Perhaps you should look inside yourself, figure out why you spend so much time arguing angrily with strangers on the internet about things that just don’t matter in the grand scheme of things.
You might end up growing as a person, assuming of course that you’re even capable of doing something like that.
Oh, and I don’t think I’m “better than everyone here”, just those like you who act like petulant children.
Hey, you need to give yourself more credit. You ARE better than everyone here. You see things the average person can’t and you’re able to share these observations in such helpful and articulate ways. Anyone who reads your insightful comment will no doubt take a step back, reflect on their behavior while standing in awe of your superior comments. You make us all want to be better people.
This reminds me of that 1 South Park episode about toilet papers and Japanese toilet. But anyways I want Nintendo to take the L here, patenting game mechanic should have never been a thing.
Yes, Nintendo does have the right to protect its IP, BUT this lawsuit will have major implications for the gaming industry as a whole. “Creative bankruptcy” could be argued on both sides. On the one hand you have Nintendo’s repetitive “gimmick” evolutions and formula repetition. Fans of the Pokémon franchise have been ignored for decades by Nintendo. ROM creators and hackers have created new storylines, worlds, and Pokemon breeds for years FOR FREE and Nintendo shut them down, then repeated the same formula over and over. Why? Because they were popular, because fans wanted something new with actual engaging gameplay and new possibilities, but Nintendo clearly just wants money.
On the other hand, Pocket Pair created controversially similar creatures. However, Pocket Pair did something completely new with those similar creatures and people LOVED IT! Not only that, they made billions of dollars with it and have achieved cross-platform gameplay. Nintendo has had decades to file a patent for these game mechanics. Why wasn’t this done when the games first came out? Furthermore, they haven’t bothered with any other indie games (except the ROM hacks) which used similar game mechanics.
So, it comes down to the question of: why is Nintendo so threatened by these ideas and games even when they’re free if all Nintendo is going to do is rehash the same thing over and over while ignoring that its customer base wants something different? The answer can only BE money. While it doesn’t break any laws to ignore consumer desires, as we’ve seen with so many other Triple A games and their companies (Sims 4, Destiny 2 come to mind), it does break consumer trust. Yes, money talks and Nintendo has the right to protect its IP. However, as a business, shouldn’t it also be interested in listening to its consumers? I have never once played Palworld or more than maybe three hours of a Pokemon ROM, but I do see that fans want new things and Nintendo isn’t delivering. Sure, it’s the businesses’ right to ignore its customers, but those customers bought Palworld BECAUSE Pocket Pair delivered something new. Nintendo is pissy about it and has decided to sue. Since they couldn’t make a case for copyright infringement, they’re aiming for patent infringement on patents which should have been filed from the very beginning.
The customers are the ones who will lose if Nintendo wins because the customers want change and Nintendo refuses to expand the possibilities of Pokémon. It comes down to consumer ethics and principles, not the basis of Nintendo’s rights to defend its IP.
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