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Analysts Chime In On Wii U Sales And The State Of The Console

Bloomberg has spoken to a number of analysts after it emerged that both Microsoft and Sony sold more game consoles in 24 hours than the Wii U maker did in nine months. The majority of analysts questioned whether Nintendo would be able to sell 9 million Wii U consoles. In reality, Nintendo is expected by analysts to sell 6.5 million Wii U machines this fiscal year.

“They steadfastly refuse to consider that the product is not interesting to consumers,” Michael Pachter, a Los Angeles-based analyst with Wedbush Securities Inc., said in an e-mail. “They will fail to hit 9 million, and they will likely miss their profit goals.”

“Wii U has become a game console only for Nintendo fans,” Eiji Maeda, an analyst at SMBC Nikko Securities Inc. in Tokyo, said by phone. “Wii U needs groundbreaking software to draw casual and hardcore gamers. The company will sell 6.5 million Wii U machines this fiscal year.”

“Nintendo’s home-console sales are stagnating even as U.S. demand for video games is increasing. U.S. sales of both physical and digitally delivered games grew 17 percent in the three months ended in September, Port Washington, New York-based researcher NPD Group Inc”

“The PS4 and Xbox One are more likely to collect software because third parties create them for core gamers,” Yusuke Tsunoda, an analyst at Tokai Tokyo Securities Co. in Tokyo, said by phone. “It’s meaningless for third parties to take risks by developing games for the Wii U.”

“It’s going to be difficult for Nintendo to sell 9 million Wii U consoles this fiscal year,” Maeda said. “Iwata needs to plan what to do next year if the performance this year isn’t good.”

 


143 thoughts on “Analysts Chime In On Wii U Sales And The State Of The Console”

      1. Hopefully it does change…
        Nintendo DID say that 2014 will be the year for “CORE GAMERS”
        That’s a good thing for me cuz i don’t wanna play games that gear towards the kid audience. And i wanna see more mature ads… all I’ve seen were kids playing Mario. -__-”
        Nintendo needs to live up to their word and “GET THE HARDCORE GAMERS BACK!”

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      2. I dont see how? Nintendo released their main series game and its flailing. What if Microsoft releases Halo 5 next Christmas and Sony releases God of War 4? You seriously Nintendo, who’s main series game just literally did nothing, has anything to fight against that?

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        1. God of war is death for anyone who has already played it. I’m 100% sure gow is already done. Also Mario is not failing it just nit selling has fast has the ones before.

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    1. They need to step up their game when it comes to new IP, and more mature IP dues not mean they need to copy call of duety or halo, they can make their own thing. They also need to big time step up their game when it comes to what ever their new home and handheld systems, they should also look into expanding their business outside of just games and hardware, like shows, toys, phones, movies, honestly they have no excuse to not be as big as Disney

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  1. You really can’t complain when you dont make a game for the system? Hmmmmm? Ubisoft,Activision, and Warner Bros are the only ones that have (mainly). So I would stop complaining the Wii U sucks when you don’t even attempt to make a game for it.

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      1. That’s actually what I like about the site. The admin doesn’t mince words and just tells it like it is. Unlike some Nintendo fans who keep on going for Nintendo even when they make some awful decisions….(gamepad)

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              1. I understand you :/ but sadly in the last period, only those bad news are around the wii u, so I appreciate the fact that a nintendo focused site allow us to know them ( a full fanboy site would simply skip these news ). We have to deal with it guys: Wii U is not going well

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  2. As much as I love WiiU and Nintendo i think it’s going to be a failed console. Probably next year even mario kart 8 and smash bros won’t help if mario 3d world didn’t help with its perfect score on metacritic and great gameplay. I’m more interested what Nintendo is going to do ? Discontinue, re release, make a new console… Or what..

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    1. doing/rebuilding a new console early will just add more fuel to the trolling fire. nintendo just have to do what they can until 8gen season is over.

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    2. I think this attitude is a bit overly dramatic to be honest.
      Sure the Wiiu looks like its going to be trounced by the PS4 and maybe Xbox one in lifetime sales, but I don’t think Nintendo really gives a shit about those guys. Their priority is to be sustainable as a business. The Gamecube sold low but it was sustainable and they profited on each console sold and sold lots of Software. If Nintendo can do something similar or better with Wiiu, then you have no reason to start panicking and thinking the universe is going to implode for Nintendo just because the console is under performing.

      Also, the Wiiu will make a comeback. how big of a comeback remains to be seen but it will improve almost definitely, That is unless people just don’t want to play the likes of Smash and Mario kart etc for some strange reason.

      Is the Wiiu under perfoming ? Yep, it is. Can it turn things around and at least become somewhat successful without permanently having to be measured up against the sales of its competitors? Absolutely.

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      1. Well if you are happy with mediocrity, that’s awesome. I’m not though. I want Nintendo to be a competitive and strong as they were during the SNES days.

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        1. Me too! But, what I care about most for NIntendo consoles is the Quality of Exclusives. The Nintendo 3DS is one of Nintendo’s best ever platforms in that respects, its 2.5 years old and already has countless, excellent games. The Wiiu is 1 and has some very very good games! And hopefully by the time it’s 2.5 like the 3DS is now it will have a library of exclusives like the 3DS’s.

          In regards to third party games and multiplats, I’ve spent my whole life playing and expecting them other platforms and whilst I would like Nintendo to improve in that respect, I have a PS4 now so I don’t really care :)

          Wiiu, 3DS, PS4 .

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  3. i think that’s like the fifth course of troll bait we’ve had today! Can we just have desert already?!

    Most fucking clichè and cheesiest thing I’ve ever posted…

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  4. They must advertise not only what the Wii U is, but the variety of games it has in its library. Yes it is family friendly but what about these “core” gamers. Show them they can play off tv or show what the gamepad can do to make their expierences more enjoyable. But all the while I’m still irritated how everyone bashes a Nintendo console when it’s in a dire situation yet eventually they get proven wrong and continue to do so when the next one comes out. It’s Nintendo, they’ve been alive this long so they’ll know what to do and fix it. HUGS! P.S. I’ve finally typed an actual reply. Don’t underestimate my cuddliness!

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    1. The Wii U’s ‘failure’ is primarily due to awful advertising. Yes they do indeed need to show off what the Wii U can do (properly) to be successful with the console this generation, otherwise it’s going to severely fall behind, which is what we’ve seen today with Xbone/ps4 overtaking it in lifetime sales. All in all i think its going to be hard for nintendo to recover from such a fall. Maybe next years games will put them back on track.

      But I’m just a troll aren’t I? I delight in the flame-wars people have on this site. But i do like to put forth my opinion once in awhile…sigh.

      Trolling people is fun.

      Nice to see you Dekuplush.

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  5. Remember, when it used to be about video games? Gamers now play stock and sales rather then the controller next to them. Its okay to not like a console if u just don’t have interest in but it gets out of hand when bash the the thing and its always on your mind. I usually get all consoles (besides the 360) . I’ll get the ps4 and xbox one some time down the road(only will get a one if they get rid of that freakin kinect). I don’t attack people because they like something I don’t. Its never good to see a company in trouble, but we shouldn’tworry about that alot. Gamers bring up that crap most of time to attack fanboys and other crap. The only time I get truly pissed at a company is when they do crap like on disc DLC. I usually ignore most of the stuff. I don’t own stock at nintendo, and most people who bash these companies don’t.Our only ability is to buy or not buy. While i don’t object to ways to improve business, i sometimes do as well, we shouldn’t always do stuff like that as gamers. we built a wall around us like the freakin political parties. Instead of working as one gaming community we broke into something that can’t stand together or play with each other. We play games to have fun, not cause this freakin stupid political debates about games. Everyone is guilty even I.

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      1. Okay simple version
        Gamers have become stock and sells players, instead of videogamer.
        The fanboy wars needs to stop
        Don’t bash each others choices
        u don’t like, u don’t like, but don’t attack others
        gamers need to stop with political party crap. like team sony, nintendo, and microsoft
        We need to stand by each other instead of against

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  6. Guys, let’s not hide and pretend that the Wii U isn’t failing from a business perspective. It is. The truth is it’s failing because the general public suck. The PS4 and Xbone are glorified underpowered PCs. There is no reason to buy them, and yet people are. For this reason I question how successful I actually want Nintendo to be. Being successful doesn’t actually mean you have a good product. It means you have convinced the idiotic general public that owning your product makes them cool. To do that you have to shittify your product clearly.

    With all that being said, as long as Nintendo are successful enough to sustain their hardware business then I’m happy. Anything on top of that is a bonus, as long as it doesn’t come with a sacrifice to the quality.

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  7. Atleast this article is not full of retard saying wiiu is doomed. I also agree with the guy above that if you haven’t atleast put one game on wiiu with the exact same features has the others.

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  8. All this hate news is really starting to really upset me now.

    I really want Wii U to be successful. Why isn’t it? :(

    I am now fearing for Wii U and what will become of it. I’ve been very supportive of the console as well.

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    1. duuuddddeee remember the 3ds that thing sucked until zelda AND supermario3dworld. WiiU has that now Christmas sales for WIIU aren’t in yet. What mom or dad will seriously buy their kid a 4-5 hundred dollar console? The WiiU is sitting pretty at 300 dollars. A manageable pricetag.

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      1. The Wii U is still not very well known or wanted.The price is still to high for the little value the Wii U offers. I doubt console’s sales will improved over this holiday season especially since there are two vastly superior products on the market that offer much more for their prices.

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        1. @Adarazz: Little value the system offers? Umm for a $100 more what the fuck are you getting with the PS4? A cheap shitty headset? A couple of fucking mediocre games? Oh like Knack? Sitting at a Metacritic score of 55. Yea, your sure as hell getting some SUPER fucking value with Sony’s Next gen console. What’s coming next from Sony? Infamous Second Son in March. Where are the games? Oh wait lets talk about NEEDING to spend another $50 to play shitty mediocre games like Killzone: Shadows Fall online. You know THAT’S value at the end of the day. Once again I’m going to ask you… What are Sony OR Microsoft offering at the end of the day over Nintendo?

          What does the system add for casuals to need to go out and spend money on a PS4? After the hardcore buy the console what is going to drive sales forward for Sony? Microsoft stands a better chance with the casuals with the stupid Cable T.V bullshit. Wait till next year the sales will start to PLUMMIT for Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo is hitting its low NOW and will become desirable by next year. So fling your bullshit now cause as of next year Sony and Microsoft will hit there low and lets see if they can come back from it.

          People need to step the fuck back from the hype train bullshit and look at it from a smart rationale perspective.

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    1. It needs to be selling out everywhere though. Just the US isn’t helping, well it is, but it isn’t helping massively.

      Makes me wonder if Wii U will see to 2014 with all this bad stuff going on. I cannot believe my faith might now be falling down.

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      1. Firstly yes it will see 2014 and beyond for say aprox. 5 years. Its already selling better than the Gamecube, which in the US was always in stock.

        If its in low stock in the US in many stores it means its selling really well cause they don’t have a manufacturing shortage like the new systems (every time a new system comes out they have a shortage).

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  9. If Wii U doesn’t succeed, Nintendo investors will be furious and Iwata will be sacked. Iwata likes his job, so the Wii U will succeed sooner or later. My bets on later.

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  10. I don’t get why it’s so hard for developers to actually try and make something for Wii U. Nothing stopped them doing anything for Wii, so why did all this crap have to happen?

    I blame EA for bad mouthing and not even trying to do anything for the console as well as the poor ads. It makes me really angry!!

    Iwata-san has GOT to do something about this!!!!!!

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  11. They are completely right.
    I really don’t think the system will push past 15mil in its life cycle.
    I’m a die hard nintendo fan but I am holding off buying one. Being in Australia, the system is completely over priced.
    The hype for the other 2 systems will continue way past christmas as demand is so high. You can’t even get a PS4 here now until next year

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  12. I’m actually liking all of these negative Wii U sales thing, and you all should too. I say that because we will all look back at these articles and laugh. Nintendo has the most popular gaming franchises, they just need to make games with them. Don’t be surprised if you see a second 3D Mario or Mario Kart for the Wii U.

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    1. nintendo should have released the white wiiu sky with out games for 250$ that way they can take advantage of the used market and liquidation sales of wiiu games.

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    2. I doubt any of Nintendo’s popular franchises will improve the Wii U’s sales significantly. 3D World didn’t, Wind Waker HD didn’t, Pikmin 3 didn’t. The Wii U is pretty much a box for hardcore fans of Nintendo’s first-party exclusives. Unfortunately there is only about 15 million of those people in the world.

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      1. Pikmin was never a system seller, neither was hd ports of old video games. 3D world actually did help improve Wii U sales, just go to vgchartz. MK and Smash will surely move Wii U’s.

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        1. Or just not made it at all. If it was optional, I doubt many people would have picked it up. I sure as hell wouldn’t. Nintendo doesn’t need a whack ass controller to create great games

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      1. Yes, Nintendo does make some phenomenal games but unfortunately those games are limited to Nintendo’s flop of a console If they would just drop their “GRRRR! IT’S US AGAINST THE WORLD! WE WILL NEVER MAKE GAMES FOR OTHER PLATFOMRS” attitude they would be far better off.

        Wii U is a totally unnecessary console. At this point Nintendo is keeping it around for the sake of stubbornness

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        1. The only true thing you said was when Nintendo makes good games. Now before you start calling me a fanboy, i own a PS4 and currently like it more than my Wii U. Xbox is for losers.

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          1. Same here. I’m loving my PS4. PS4 for multiplats and Wii U for the best games on the planet. I’m all set for the next generation.

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            1. You’re a big boy, you’ll figure it out all on your own. i already know what you’re going to say next… “That’s what i thought, you can’t prove me wrong, you know i’m right” so don’t bother commenting back unless you have facts to back up your shitty opinions.

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              1. Oh look. Another angry Nintendo fanboy who can’t provide a half-decent argument as to why Nintendo is necessary as a competitor in the console market.

                No sense wasting my time debating a fraghead like you.

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                1. Not starting anything but he said he liked his PS4 more than his Wii U, and i can provide one… The games :P and it’s cheaper.

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                  1. He may not be a Nintendo fanboy but he definitely is stupid.

                    Anyway… Neither of your two points are make a good arguments as to why Nintendo is necessary as a competitor in the console space.

                    Firstly, “the games” while great could most likely be even better on more technically capable systems. Secondly “it’s cheaper”… A bad product that’s cheap is still a bad product.

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                    1. Necessary or not, you need to buy a Nintendo system for the Nintendo games, and that is why the Wii U is being bought in the first place.

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                  1. You’re right, man. Instead of voicing the concerns and complaints I have towards Nintendo I should bury my head in the sand like an ostrich and pretend everything’s fine and dandy.

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        2. True, it really sucks that Nintendo’s hardware is holding back their games. And it really isn’t helping that Tubbie Pizza-Meh and Awater keep splurging utter bullshit as if the Wii U has a chance. They can’t just expect the Wii U to suddenly replicate the 3DS in terms of sales, because the Wii U actually has competition (unlike the 3DS). Nintendo is too stubborn to realize…

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          1. People still holding unto the hope the Wii U will make a “3DS style comeback” are naive.

            First of all, the 3DS was never selling nearly as poorly as the Wii U. Also, like you said, the 3DS doesn’t have any strong competition (although I think the Vita is a great system). Other things contributing to the 3DS’ success is the fact the system has a steady a stream of quality titles from first AND third parties, also a price point that is relative to what the system offers you in terms of value.

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        3. When I read post like this, I just read them as saying this- “Why can’t Nintendo bring some of their great games to my console of choice that is lacking great games?” By the way I have a PS4 an there are only 2 games worth getting for it right now resogun and contrast (both are free with PS+), all the rest are shooters and most are available on Wii U. Warframe is ok and black light is decent, but what are the system sellers? The order:1886, not out until next year. Infamous 3, not out until next year. Wii U has experiences right now and more coming next year. Please don’t whine because you don’t have Nintendo games on the other platforms, the games work well on Nintendo platforms because that is what they are built around.

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  13. why people keep saying that PS4 and XO, outsold the wii u bla bla bla, OF COURSE THEY OUTSOLD THE WII U on their launches; they are the new shiny thing, Wii U also sold like 3 millions on its first 2months, it just the hype

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    1. No, that is why this is so bad for Nintendo, in the UK, they already outsold the total sales of the Wii U, in one day they sold more than the Wii U in more than 9 months.

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      1. Nintendo has never been popular on the UK, also everybody know that those gamers jus play FIFA, and that games was bundled with the consoles

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        1. FIFA is a pretty great series although it’s slowed to a complete stop like Madden and NBA. Some of the new additions actually aren’t that good and are unnecessary. (Like the gamebreaks in Madden that just destroy the pacing and make each game take longer!)

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  14. Ok I understand why everybody have enough of Nintendo !!!
    I had all the consoles from this brand …
    And not always satisfied … Must admit !
    But today when I look at the other consoles and their games ( Shitty bullshit generics shits ) Im really sure that I Will buy a WiiU !!!
    Fuck the consumers, they dont even Know what they buying !!!
    Its just for the hype all around the new machines :-(
    They are not players, no tastes, just sheeps ;-)
    I love Nintendo ! And for me its the only brand that keep me happy today …
    I just cant go and buy a XBone or a ps4…

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  15. well all of this was predictable, to those who think, that is. from the moment the wiiu was announced and the lack of interest from gamers and devs started taking form, the console was destined to have a doomed beginning. only thing now is to wait for next year. if things don’t pick up after 2014 with all the promises nintendo carelessly made, it’s ouch city for wiiu. it’s one thing to make promises, it’s another to deliver them. if they think kids and their moms will carry them this time, they are wrong as fuck.

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    1. Iwata and his cronies need to wake up and realize the casual crowd that drove the sales of the Wii and to a lesser extent DS have moved on to other platforms or quit gaming entirely. They’re still under the delusional all the people who bought the original Wii will run out and by Wii Us eventually. Instead of actually swallowing his pride, admitting the Wii U has been an utter failure thus far, and making changes for the better, Iwata is sitting on his ass telling himself, “Things will get better! Things will get better!”. Unless that man is fired, Nintendo’s fortunes in the console market aren’t going to improve anytime soon.

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      1. exactly. they seriously need new management. why can’t these retards understand that. blind sheeple fanboys are fucking hilarious.

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  16. I honestly can’t see what’s “so wrong” with the Wii U for it not to sell more. We have great games now and greater games are coming. The PS4 launched and can people really say there’s a must buy game for it right now? Not to mention its not even backwards compatible.
    It all seems so bogus.

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    1. Those “great games” are mainly first-party Nintendo titles and there really isn’t a ton of people who would buy a console just for those games.

      I doesn’t matter if you can see why, the Wii U is under-performing and that’s a fact.

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  17. “Wii U has become a game console only for Nintendo fans,” Eiji Maeda

    Truer words have never been spoken. The only reason to own a Wii U is for it’s first party content. Any other game you want to play, you can get somewhere else (and have a better experience).

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  18. The Wii U should sell 40-60 million units at the end of it’s lifetime. 2014 will be a good year for “core” gamers with games like X and Bayonetta 2 as well as Super Smash Bros U.

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            1. Hopefully Zelda U will blow people away. Hopefully something like they showed in the tech demo. I’m kind of excited for SSB4 but not as much as I was for melee. What I’m really hoping for is a sequel to Kid Icarus Uprising on the Wii U, Metroid, Starfox, F-Zero, Pokemon Spinoff, Duckhunt HD, Castlevania Sidescroller, Iceclimbers 3d platformer, Punchout, Kirby, Earthbound, Golden Sun, Fire Emblem, Yoshi U, Waverace, basically all of those neglected ips. Also, that ip that Miyamoto-san is working on.

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  19. Not that I think nintendos gonna fail here, but they should have waited a year, busted out hardware near equivalent to the ps4 and sold it at $350 because now they’re gonna start missing out on games again when they had claimed they were trying to bring people who actually play video games to this console. I’m buying all nintendos games but face it they’re behind graphically even if the difference is ultimately negligible and that 1 fact alone is gonna drive so many people to buy a ps4 instead

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  20. Once again, Eiji Maeda is spot on with this. The games just aren’t that exciting, many of them are similar to games we’ve played in the past. The Wii U lacks games that impress people, there’s simply not much of a reason to buy one unless you want more of the same. The best way they can improve this is to make games that take full advantage of the Gamepad (something that they have failed to do, which is sad considering they made it) to create new gameplay styles. Show gamers how the Gamepad actually benefits gaming. It’s a simple concept, it baffles me why they haven’t done this yet.

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    1. EXACTLY HOW I FEEL. THEY ARE JUST GIVING US SAME OF THE SAME WITH A LITTLE BIT OF NEW.

      ALSO I THINK INSTEAD OF WASTING MONEY IN THAT USELESS TABLET THEY COULD PUT THAT MONEY ON THE CONSOLE THEY COULD MAKE IT JUST AS POWERFUL AS NEXT GEN. THEN THE GAMEPAD COULD COME 2 OR 3 YEARS LATER AS A ADD ON TO MAINTAIN MOMENTUM. THEY ARE NOT USING IT SO WHO GIVES A SHIT.

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      1. Making a high powered but vanilla console like Microsoft and Sony’s isn’t Nintendo’s style, they want their consoles to do something more. That’s why you’ve been seeing controller gimmicks out of their consoles lately, and for the most part, this is proving to be the more successful strategy. This time, though, they haven’t really shown the usefulness in the Wii U Gamepad, so there’s not much reason to get excited about. Add to that the fact that third parties don’t want to touch Nintendo with a 10 ft pole and the Wii U is in a tight spot.

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  21. NO LIES DETECTED. THIS ARTICLE IS PURE TRUE.

    WHAT IWATA WOULD DO NEXT? PRETTY SURE THROWING ANOTHER MARIO IN OUR FACES.

    SO SAD THEY HAVE THE PPL AND THE CREATIVITY TO CREATE A REALLY GOOD ADVENTURE SHOOTER GAME KINDA LIKE UNCHARTED OR TOMB RAIDER. WITH GOOD REALISTIC GRAPHICS THATS WHAT HARDCORE PPL LIKE.

    BUT THEY ARE WASTING MONEY AND PPL CREATING SHIT LIKE WII PATY, WII FIT,.THAT WARIO PARTY SHIT GAME. WHEN THEY CAN CREATE MAGIC WITH THAT MONEY.

    REALLY SOMETIMES I WANNA GIVE UP AND THROW MY SHIT U BUT IM JUST WAITING WHATS COMING NEXT.

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  22. NO LIES DETECTED. THIS ARTICLE IS PURE TRUE.

    WHAT IWATA WOULD DO NEXT? PRETTY SURE THROWING ANOTHER MARIO IN OUR FACES.

    SO SAD THEY HAVE THE PPL AND THE CREATIVITY TO CREATE A REALLY GOOD ADVENTURE SHOOTER GAME KINDA LIKE UNCHARTED OR TOMB RAIDER. WITH GOOD REALISTIC GRAPHICS THATS WHAT HARDCORE PPL LIKE.

    BUT THEY ARE WASTING MONEY AND PPL CREATING SHIT LIKE WII PATY, WII FIT,.THAT WARIO PARTY SHIT GAME. WHEN THEY CAN CREATE MAGIC WITH THAT MONEY.

    REALLY SOMETIMES I WANNA GIVE UP AND THROW MY SHIT U BUT IM JUST WAITING FOR BAYONETTA.

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  23. You can say what you want about it, but all we can do is wait and see. Predicting the future has always been and will always be impossible. Besides, the PS3 was in the same boat when it launched.

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  24. The facts remain facts I suppose. For example, the Wii U sales rose 625% at the launch of the Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD. More over, for everyone saying that the lack of hardware on the Wii U is holding Nintendo back, you’re dead wrong. For example, Super Mario 3D World has the best ranked graphics of anything on the market currently. I know that it is still a “cartoonish” type of game, but fact remains fact, it has the highest HD level, the fastest refresh times, and the highest bit count of any game on the market. I know what you’re thinking, “Oh yeah, but Ryse, the people look so real.” Yes, that fact remains, but the graphic content still falls short. We can’t chock it up to lack of hardware, because its not. It is lack of advertising, but hopefully that will all change. When you look at hardware, Nintendo completely broke the standard GBU with the addition of the clone cherry. When you can have up to 32 characters, all simultaneously controllable, it isn’t a lack of hardware, simply people more worried about sinking $1,000 into an overpriced, underpowered PC that runs windows 8 like its a new tech, and expects people like me not to notice.

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  25. The analysts say “Quick! Let’s recite everything we’ve been saying about Nintendo’s sales for the past 9 months and publish it! We haven’t stated enough how the Wii U will only make 6 million at the end of the quarter, so why stop now?”

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