You either love him or hate him, but popular YouTuber Pewdiepie has taken a stance against Nintendo. On his personal Tumblr blog he slams Nintendo’s recent YouTube program which see’s people signing up to a program in which roughly half of the advertising revenue generated from YouTube videos featuring Nintendo games goes to the company. Heres’s what he said.
I also think this is a slap in the face to the YouTube channels that does focus on Nintendo game exclusively. The people who have helped and showed passion for Nintendo’s community are the ones left in the dirt the most.
And finally, when there’s just so many games out there to play. Nintendo games just went to the bottom of that list. Even if more publishers starts implementing this idea of sharing revenue. Then fine, there’s always going to be plenty of games out there, ready to become the next “Mienkraft” – Sounds cheesy, but it’s true.
Thanks to those who sent this in.
Cool. Just subscribed to him
Classic Nintendo
I just logged on to say that people who watch let’s play videos are SL.e of the biggest pieces of a bit in the world. Also if anybody had a lucario to trade let me know I’ll have an extra shulk and hopefully metaknight
Thanks to let’s play I don’t buy ps4 games anymore, I could just watch them on YouTube and I really like that. I just focus playing my Nintendo games =). I think nintendo want us to play their games not to watch them.
Oh, I respect him a little more now. The problem is this. Imagine if all big companies did this and you wanted to make a video in which you compare some aspects of a game to another game or make a Top 5 list. Any company would get a share. You’d be left with 3-5% if that.
Nintendo was my greatest love once. It was my childhood dream to work there and over the years I started to resent them. I hope they face the brink of financial disaster. Then and ONLY then will they become pro consumer again.
Amen
“Nintendo was my greatest love once. It was my childhood dream to work there and over the years I started to resent them. I hope they face the brink of financial disaster”. come on, it’s not that serious, man :P… there are other consoles around :)
Well, this was a post just about Nintendo.
I don’t agree with him, he found a way to play video games , to make shitty videos, and make money off other peoples content, that’s like making your own shitty music video using someone elves song. He should be lucky he is making any money. What a self entitled d bag
Yeah, of course. Whatever you say, mate. You are just jelous of his success, and frankly, you have every right to be. I am as well, but I won’t let that fog my logical thinking. He does that and so what? Should Youtube just be full of completely original content without even mentioning any brand?
Nintendo has the right to do this, yes. Not with reviews, because that is like saying “you cannot criticize my content”, but they have the right to do this. But if we’re talking about rights, they also have rights to make their games 100$ a copy, put on disc DLC and microtransactions, ask for payment to use their console or they will disable your ability to play games. They have many rights, but should they abuse them in this anti consumer way? Well, they are the ones losing here. It’s a catch 22. They do this to get money from people making videos about their games, but people won’t make videos about their games because they want money. They get no publicity, they get no money and I’m glad this is happening to them.
“You’re just jealous” No one is jealous of someone who makes a living entertaining teenagers by screaming at video games and exploiting the pathetic garbage that is the YouTube creator content. Lol.
No is jealous of someone who is making millions of dollars by playing video games. Keep being delusional, bro.
As user Orian said:
“They wouldn’t pay Nintendo to make reviews, as reviews are clearly under fair use. Notice, if you will, that none of this controversy has ever centered around reviews unless they were disparaging. Any time a review was taken down, a counterclaim was filed and sooner or later the video went back up. Reviews are fair use, however Let’s Plays are not. Any video that has a great deal of content from any game shown is not fair use as it’s actively eating into potential revenue. The whole “free marketing” argument isn’t valid here, as many people watch Let’s Plays instead of playing the games and with the younger generation it’s becoming more and more common for them to watch idiots like Pewdiepie instead of actually playing the games. I have a coworker with a little brother who loves Minecraft, he had books, toys and the game, yet he never plays the game. He would rather watch someone else do neat things instead of doing it himself. I know people who intended to buy a game, watched a Let’s Play and decided not to buy the game because they decided seeing it played was close enough to playing it.
While I’m aware that Let’s Plays will cause some people to buy a game, they’re still making use of content that does not belong to them to make money. That does not fall under fair use, and the fair marketing **** is a load of, well, ****. The fact of the matter is that while Nintendo is being somewhat ridiculous in their terms, they’re in the right to do so and until copyright laws are amended then we have two options. You play along or you don’t play. ”
To what I add: “What is he crying about? He only played 2 Nintendo games on his, humm, “show” Fatal Frame & Smash Bros.
He’s just crying over this because it gives him free publicity & makes him look “cool” in the eyes of the community of dudebros that watches him & already hate on Nintendo!
Go work for a change!!!”
So what that HE watches the game. That game is popular because people play it so much. That one example means nothing.
Yeah, Nintendo is going to get fucked in the ass because of these anti consumer terms. There is no proff that Let’s plays have any negative or positive impact on game sales, this is just pure greed as they don’t have to do this, but still do.
Yes, Pewdiepie surely wants to piss of his huge fanbase which surely has many Nintendo fanboys.
Actually, they do have a positive(and possible negative) impact on sales
Wow dude, you really nailed it. It totally makes sense why Nintendo destroys “Let’s Play” videos and not reviews. I never really thought about the differences between the two.
@DeusEgrande If there was a comment like this every 100 stupid comments I usually find, I would spend more time on the comment section.
I just don’t see how people ca call Nintendo greedy without also calling the youtubers greedy as well. I mean they are getting the bigger cut. But they want it all?
Because other companies don’t do it. Youtubers live off of that money and that is pretty much their only source of money and that money is nothing but a drop in Nintendo’s bank account and does not mean survival to them. If you can’t see this, I’m sorry, but you are retarded.
“But everyone else is doing it” isn’t a great argument in my mind.
Yes, that is why I listed the reasons it’s anti consumer, you tardtard.
Ah, calling people names, that must mean you’re right, you’re a true master-debater.
Leave it at the actual arguments, don’t say “everyone else is doing it”. These terms aren’t anti-consumer by the way, anti-youtuber maybe.
Anti consumer doesn’t indicate what you consume, what way and when. Not to mention that you buy their game, but you can’t make money off of it, and you can of other games. It’s anti people that support Nintendo and as far as I can see, there are a small number of you who support this decision, it just seems like a lot of you because of sites like these where you come to worship Nintendo.
“Youtubers live off of that money and that is pretty much their only source of money”
And that`s why you get a real work. No really, I read it as if they have no money but they keep buying games to keep doing videos, to keep gaining money from someone else`s product (because belive it or not, that`s the case). And well yeah, this does not affect Nintendo in a drastic way, not even a 1%, but people blame Nintendo for defending their product like every other bussiness would do.
If you can`t see this, I`m sorry, but you are retarded :S
Real work? How do you define a job? By definion? Ok, then you are wrong:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/job
Like any other company? Except no other companies do this, I said that in almost every comment I made on this post.
Defending their product? What does that even mean? Even if one person just made a LP, others can watch it, so it’s not defended in the way that no one can watch it. It’s just that Nintendo wants the money.
Every point you made was false and you are wrong.
You are the retard here. Goodbye.
Thank you. You’re the only person here thinking logically. I don’t really like the guy but there isn’t anything wrong with what he’s saying.
That’s like saying that people in NBA are lucky that they just play around on the playground and make millions of dollars. Of course they are, but you need to have something special for people to care about you, and to make so much money. It’s the same with everything. Consumer or….I guess viewer is the one that chooses.
Watching a sport is not the same as watching someone play a game LP are not like Reviews that’s the real Problem here since you are showing the whole game it’s like posting a movie in YouTube without permission and know what you are gonna say you are thinking that is not the same since you are not really playing a game and you will be right but people who watch an LP may think they don’t need to buy the game since they feel satisfated with what they saw if you don’t belive me go to the comment section of any Bayonetta 2 trailer and you will see what i’m talking about
Plus nintendo is giving you a part of the revenue instead of giving you nothing which really doesn’t affect mayor LPlayers since they alredy make more 40% plus the company they are partner with that helps them example of this Super Best Friends Zaibatsu.
The Best Friends are already partnered with an MCN (Machinima) so they’re actually fine as is (this Nintendo Partner program is mostly for YouTubers not already part of MCN). I say this because people like Jwittz, PBG, and BalrogTheMaster have said this whole thing doesn’t affect them due to their Polaris/Maker Studios partnership.
Plus MCN’s in general already take some ad revenue from your videos as is (usually as a way to help prevent content IDs, notice that Best Friends apparently never got content ID’s for using wrestling themes in Rustlemania or “Rollin'” by Limp Bizkit in that one Cryme Tyme video? Generally copyrighted music gets you hit hard with content IDs), so to me this Nintendo MCN thing is really not that different from other MCNs (granted that “white list” really needs some expanding, it really should just be “any game published by Nintendo”).
No, it’s not like posting a movie as you are playing a game, you don’t play a movie, and even if you look at it that way. The wrong way, you can still make money off of that. You can’t with movies. You can’t say to Disney “I’ll post Frozen on Youtube and I get 60%” No.
You are talking about how games sell worse because of LPs, but there are no statistics pointing at that, quite contrary.
The part you low intelligent people do not get is that Nintendo DIDN’T have to do this. It was their choice to take money from people. They are one of the only companies doing this and it’s anti consumer as fuck. If ANY other company did something like this, they would be crucified and would get next to no support, but Nintendo has blind morons like you supporting them.
You post frozen on you tube and it gets taken down. I honestly don’t see the fuss here. If you follow the same logic any Nintendo LP should be taken down. No money for anyone.
If you use your ps4 to stream there are certain things it won’t show. It’s the same idea.
It’s called protecting intellectual property.
What the fuck are you talking about. Frozen is a fucking movie. It’s made. You have no control over it. Games are not done. You have certain control over them.
No other company does this. It’s anti fucking consumer, and now that Nintendo did it, it’s fine. But when Microsoft tried to do the DRM shit, which is completely their right, everyone was losing their minds. You’re a moron.
Self righteous much bro
I do consider myself more intelligent than all of you combined, so yeah.
You’re claiming to be intelligent.
that’s hilarious!
Yeah, you really gave it your all.
honestly did nintendo give u rights to record there game no… so your all for copy right not existing an ideas being stolen???
You are just a fucking moron. Read the rest of the comment, because I don’t feel like writting a fucking novel here that you won’t even get in the end.
His point is valid. He’s earning money using Nintendo content. He’s lucky Nintendo is willing to cut him in on the profit and not sue his selfish, self entitled ass into bankruptcy.
You do realize that this is going no where. Nintendo will now neither get publicity nor money because no one will want to make videos about their games and lose almost half of the money. It’s anti consumer and that is the only thing that matters.
but you just said “there’s no proof to show lets play vids affect sales positively or negatively” …. now you are sure Nintendo will lose money? which is it?
Posting “i’m more intelligent” doesn’t mean it’s true dude…
Read all of my comments. I don’t feel like explaining this to all of you moronic bastards.
Let’s plays have affected games positively in the past when done by a big youtuber. Indie games in particular, but when a big game comes out, because of it’s large number of sales, it’s hard to determine what comes from the let’s play if anything, but it’s safer to assume that Let’s plays affect game sales in a positive way, because even if people take this deal and Nintendo gets 60%, people are still going to be able to watch those few LPs that people make.
Thats the stupidest comparison. there are hundreds lets players out there that do exactly what he does, but what keep people coming back to him is his personality and how me reacts to the games… not the games themselves.
Thing is though, Let’s Plays are free advertising. Nintendo is stupid for taking money from their fans trying to stream their games.
The problem is that they don’t own the IP remember
LP are not the same as Reviews
You do have the right to post footage of the game your playing as long as you don’t make profit out of it
This doesn’t affect people like Jwittz, Balrog and the Super Best Friends Zaibatsu because of their polaris/machinima partnership this doesn’t hurt them because they alredy make more than 40% The Best Friends are already partnered with an MCN (Machinima) so they’re actually fine as is (this Nintendo Partner program is mostly for YouTubers not already part of MCN). I say this because people like Jwittz, PBG, and BalrogTheMaster have said this whole thing doesn’t affect them due to their Polaris/Maker Studios partnership.
Plus MCN’s in general already take some ad revenue from your videos as is (usually as a way to help prevent content IDs, notice that Best Friends apparently never got content ID’s for using wrestling themes in Rustlemania or “Rollin'” by Limp Bizkit in that one Cryme Tyme video? Generally copyrighted music gets you hit hard with content IDs), so to me this Nintendo MCN thing is really not that different from other MCNs (granted that “white list” really needs some expanding, it really should just be “any game published by Nintendo”).
Then, they’ll go out of business and video games will get worse.
I feel similar to you, but I just treat them as a business now. No loyalty from me.
Loyalty is dead.
ditto.
Video games will get worse? Well, there will be less competition that’s for sure, but they are not even a competition right now. Their IPs are going to go to a company that buys them and we’ll see what goes on from there if they really go out of business.
Wow. I tottally agree
Actually around 40-52% after Youtube and Nintendo’s cut before taxes.
Youtube takes around 50% and then Nintendo takes 40% of what is left.
If you made something like that, it would fall under fair use and you would get 50% of all the income (Google gets 50% right off the bat for everything).
Nintendo has every damn right to take their share of the cake. LP’s are 90% the game’s assets with 10% being the person talking. And I’m being generous. It’s not Nintendo’s fault that pewshity and the rest of the moronic LPer left their daily job because they managed to make money on youtube and now the dream is falling apart. Maybe they shouldn’t have built up their “career” on other people’s work and property if they wanted a safe future. And if anything, he should be barking at Youtube rather than at Nintendo. Youtube does nothing but host and they take the biggest share of the cake. Nintendo owns (in this case) pretty much all the assets in the videos. The LPer made the video. Youtube did nothing. But hey, the dog is too afraid to bark at the hand that is feeding him despite beating him all the time.
The point is that Nintendo doesn’t have to do it, but they do it anyway. It’s anti consumer. Microsoft also had any and every right to put DRM in X1.
Youtube takes that because they provide you with infrastructure, servers and a billion other things.
Well Boohoo. Cry me a bloody river. I have only heard knightmare stories about PewDiePie, about how his only commentary style is screaming into a mic. Therefore, I have made it my duty to avoid any off his stupid videos. This guy gets so many subscribers from assumingly screaming into a microphone, yet proper, genuinely great commentators like Chuggaaconroy and others are popular, but way too underappreciated. Sure, my not one view doesn’t affect him at all and I understand that, but I ask, what makes this jabroni so special? Seriously, what’s the dang appeal. And before anybody says it, the reason why I choose not to try PewDiePie out, is because I don’t want to chance getting my eardrums burst because of the reported constant screaming…
How’s Emile underappreciated?? He has 900,000+ subscribers!
Unlucky
fuck pewdiepie
Nintendo news didn’t state all of his words here are the next:
“So, you should reconsider this decision Nintendo. (◕‿◕✿)
Added note: I’ll still play Nintendo games that I want to play on my channel as usual. I’m lucky to be in a situation where losing ad REVENUE on a few videos wont matter. However, many people on YouTube are not in that situation.
Everyone loses in this scenario that Nintendo has created, that’s why I’m against it.”
Your hatred towards him doesn’t make his points any less valid.
But his point is completely invalid, regardless of who hates him.
You truly elaborated your point. You should be a lawyer or something.
Why would he elaborate if he is right? This is not a trial. He doesn’t have to waste time convincing retards of his truthfulness.
I’m sorry, what? So if I say something, I shouldn’t provide any evidence, any arguments, nothing? Wow, you are a moron of the highest calibre.
It only hurt people LPlayers who had it easy to this point I say this because people like Jwittz, PBG, and BalrogTheMaster have said this whole thing doesn’t affect them due to their Polaris/Maker Studios partnership.
Plus MNC’s in general already take some ad revenue from your videos as is (usually as a way to help prevent content IDs, notice that Best Friends apparently never got content ID’s for using wrestling themes in Rustlemania or “Rollin'” by Limp Bizkit in that one Cryme Tyme video? Generally copyrighted music gets you hit hard with content IDs), so to me this Nintendo MCN thing is really not that different from other MCNs (granted that “white list” really needs some expanding, it really should just be “any game published by Nintendo”).
Indeed, Fuck this annoying parasite!!!
I still don’t get why people are annoyed at it. You’re getting some money for your work, before wasn’t it that you got nothing after the claim…
Anyway, PewDiePie has never directly played a Nintendo game on his channel, or at least he didn’t when I unsubbed back when he had under 15 million.
The difference is Nintendo are the only game company that still don’t seem to get the whole Youtube thing. When Microsoft and EA are more reasonable than you, that’s when you should take a step back and rethink what you’re doing.
yeah meanwhile they nickle and dime you with micro transactions…thy f*ck you over in secret ways
I never said Microsoft and EA don’t pull their own garbage. But in this instance they are leagues more reasonable than Nintendo.
The difference with that is, you have a choice not to support their games. You can buy them and play them, or not. Or you can buy them and not buy DLC or microtransactions too. You have options and choices and nobody is forcing you to do anything.
On the other hand, with the Nintendo/YouTube thing, it’s like Nike coming over to you and telling you to give them some money because you’re wearing their shoes to work and all your co-workers and customers can see the shoes you’re wearing; and if you don’t, legal action will be taken against you.
Stupid comment of the day comes from Simple G?? Sad days We live now!
Is it a European thing to say “Nintendo are” instead of “Nintendo is”? This is like the fifth time I’ve seen this.
They are a company!
Actually a business entity is regarded as a plural noun rather than singular. So it’s correct to say “Nintendo are”.
Just did some research. In American English, business entities are considered singular, which is what I taught growing up here in California. I’ve never heard of companies regarded as plural.
*I was taught
I was born and raised in Florida and I use the plural form when speaking of companies.
That’s interesting. Well you do live on the opposite side of the U.S. than me.
EA and Activision takes money too. Nobody talks about that though. I think they take 10-20% if i’m not mistaken. Nintendo takes 30-40%. Whoopity doo.
Nintendo takes money they deserve (it’s their IP, their assets, pretty much everything is their) but make and sell finished games and when they do DLC, it’s usually damn worth it.
MS and EA don’t take money from youtuber but make broken and unfinished games, sell the missing parts as overpriced DLC, shove in a million micro transaction items forcing you to waste over $100 on a single game if you want the full game.
I would say that Nintendo is the one being reasonable, taking money from the people that use Nintendo’s property to make money while giving me complete games at a reasonable price.
60% profit for uploading video game footage you bought yourself is bullshit. Quit licking nintendos ass.
Except you don’t own the rights to share that footage or game with the entire world. You own the rights to share in cases of personal use. Internet broadcast is not personal use.
Look mr. Nintendoasslicker, people do have the right to share footage as long as the game it’s self isn’t being downloaded illegally.
Except that the YouTube folks are profiting off of Nintendo’s properties without permission. Sure, I can stream all day or post game play videos without Nintendo hitting me because my channel doesn’t profit from ad revenue. However, if I take a sample from someone else’s song and use it in my song and sell millions of cds, I am liable to get sued because I used that persons song for profit. It has nothing to do with sharing game play footage with the public, it has everything to do with profiting off of Nintendo’s IPs without permission. Buying the game doesn’t automatically give you permission to profit off of it. That’s why it’s illegal to copy movies and games.
Boom… That is totally right. I also don’t think regular gamers are profiting off of such videos… this is for people exploiting the process
Exactly, I can post all day long because my channel isn’t partnered which means I am not making ad revenue. Nintendo doesn’t care about me because I’m not profiting off of their IPs.
You can’t compare video games to music, both things are entirely different from each other, especially when it comes down to sharing them on Youtube or other similar platforms.
If you share music on the internet, the purpose of buying is being eliminated for those who listen to your upload.
If you share video game footage on the internet, people see the way *you* play it, not the way they would play it. Everyone plays games differently, some of them just rush through it, with the only objective of finishing it, others like to explore and check out every little aspect of it; everyone takes different decisions in games. By sharing a video of your own personal gameplay, you do not necessarily take away reason for people to buy the game, because watching a game being played by someone else and playing it yourself are two entirely different things – you can’t say the same about music; you either listen to it or you don’t, there isn’t much else you can do with it; the experience is the same whether you buy it yourself or listen to it on the internet. Same could be said about movies, there’s only one single way to experience them: watching it. What you see in the movie doesn’t change depending on where you watch it, everyone sees the same.
Video games can be played completely individually, music and movies can be listened to/watched in one single way only, that’s the difference.
So, while sharing music/movies on the internet is rightfully considered as preventing the creator from making money, Gameplay videos on the internet are basically free advertisement for the developers of the game and actually a way to help the creators earn money. How many people do you think decided to buy games people like PewDiePie played after watching them play it? Did you know that EA started reprinting a game just because after PewDiePie shared his gameplay of it, demand for it majorly skyrocketed?
It’s absolutely ridiculous of Nintendo to want to get a share of the ad revenue from people, there’s no way to defend what they’re doing. They’re one of the most successful video game companies out there, and you would think they aren’t greedy enough to do something as disgusting as that. Also, Nintendo has their own channel of Youtube they’re probably making a lot of money with themselves, so are they really desperate enough to be after the money people earn by putting a huge amount of effort into recording + editing their own gameplay? Honestly, there’s absolutely no argument to defend that behaviour, in my opinion. Nintendo is doing nothing, but making themselves look like huge assholes with this kinda thing.
Wow… The music was a comparison in intellectual property. I don’t disagree with you’re unnecessarily long argument. What I do disagree with is the fact that YouTube folks are using Nintendo’s intellectual and making a profit on them without permission. This is breaking the law in the same fashion as using someone else’s music without permission. You are profiting off of someone else’s IP that you don’t own.
You used music to support your argument of why sharing personal gameplay on the internet and making money with it is wrong. I answered you with my opinion on the matter, explaining why comparing music and video games in this whole matter doesn’t make much of a sense to me, and why I believe that there is no point in bringing up music in this matter.
And the whole “without permission” thing is pretty much the issue here. Nintendo seems to be the only one who refuses to give out permission for that. Nobody else is making a huge scene out of it. If it truly was against the law as you describe it, I don’t think Let’s Play channels wouldn’t be such a big thing on Youtube.
Oh and, if you call that a long reply, you probably haven’t seen many of the comments on this website. :) I didn’t know throughly explaining your argument was a bad thing though, maybe I should keep that in mind for the future.
I have seen plenty of the long winded arguments on this site… They’re greatly annoying. You’re completely missing the point. If a company owns a character, a title, a lyric, a song, etc. they own the sole rights to profit from it. Anyone else who profits from these things is breaking the copyright laws. Let’s plays that profit from showing off games are profiting from IPs that they don’t own. At the very least Nintendo is allowing the content creators to continue profiting for their hard work. Even if it’s only half, they’re at least getting something.
I see your point, and I would agree with you if this was about something other than video games, but again, the fact that Let’s Plays are such a successful thing, without any of the YouTubers having to deal with legality issues because of what they upload (except for Nintendo content, as we’re speaking of that), and all the other circumstances concerning the situation, such as the way other companies handle it, it’s a bit difficult to agree with you on this matter.
That doesn’t mean I don’t respect your opinion, I definitely do, but I’m afraid it just doesn’t overlap with my own opinion and how I evaluate the whole copyright issue in relation to video games.
I respect your opinion and understand where you’re coming from. It really does seem like Nintendo is alone in this matter. They do things their way and have been doing things their way for over 30 years. They might not like the idea of let’s players because they can’t control the way their game is being presented. They may not even like the “free advertising” because they can’t control said advertising. Nintendo holds their IPs close to the chest and they don’t want them misrepresented. So, yes; Nintendo is alone in this front but at least they’re offering something instead of nothing. The other companies probably don’t put up a fuss because of the free advertising, but Nintendo covets their properties and wants to represent them a specific way.
That’s true. Let’s Plays definitely can also bring disadvantages for the developers, and a little concern for the matter sure isn’t bad. And as you’ve said, the developer simply has no control over what’s being done and/or said in the videos. But yea, whether or not the measures Nintendo is taking are right/wrong, is another question, as discussions show. :)
True, however it seems like Nintendo is offering a 60-40 split, giving 60% to the content creator. I personally think it’s fair but I can understand how it could effect some folks with smaller channels. I know this whole situation has caused some to straight not create Nintendo content and that’s sad. But hopefully 60% is enough for them to start showing Nintendo related content again.
you can’t fix stupid. Stop trying to explain the obvious, some people’s minds are made up no matter what the facts are lol!
I didn’t buy catherine after watching a let’s play. It was a good game and everything. I only have it now because someone bought it for me as a present.
I’ve heard the term ‘i’ll just watch a let’s play’ so often it’s not really funny at this point.
That’s a great point! I won’t get another Sony system but I am interested in some of the games they offer, so I check them out on YouTube instead of buying the system and games. It’s rare for me to finish a let’s play because at some point it just gets boring but if the story really means that much to me I’ll check out a video of cut scenes. So, at least between you and me, the let’s play system hurts the industry.
Whoops, *I don’t think Let’s Play channels -would- be such a big thing on Youtube.
My bad. :)
I will say that I respect that you were thorough in your argument. Most of the long winded arguments stray on a tangent that doesn’t directly apply to the original statement.
Thanks haha, I appreciate it. :)
Wasn’t really reading the discussion but I’ll just say it here: LP’s can either increase or decrease sales of a game dramatically, depending on the type of game. No one would play a game like Stanley Parable or TWD , because much of those games’ entertainment come from the story and LPers already shown it to them. LP’s could on the contrary help a game like Xenoblade or TLOU, because they’re more gameplay focused. So it really depends on what people are LPing imo.
I also think Nintendo has every right to get money from their property. If I had a business and created a product or service or whatever and someone else out there is “reviewing” and making money off of it while possibly affecting the way my product sells or not then I would be forced to take interest as it might affect my business.
I wonder how this Pewdiepie will react if a lot of people were to use his so called “videos” and make money off of it? Would he welcome it or would he use the copyright laws?
*this
“Gameplay videos on the internet are basically free advertisement for the developers of the game and actually a way to help the creators earn money.”
I have bought a ton of video games because of Youtube videos.
Nintendo is getting really greedy. I already stopped spending money on them since they shafted NA with no standard N3DS. If I have to have a game, I will buy used now. Loyalty is down the toilet.
On the other hand with Nintendo’s smaller market share, some people could potentially watch enough gameplay to think “I’ve seen enough it looks awesome but now that I’ve watched a couple hours I’ve got my fill.”
A lot of Nintendo games put focus on single player, so it’s easy to simply watch enough single player video to satisfy your desire to see what the game offered.
No they don’t they should have to show loyalties to the company that copyrighted the game. Unless the game is not still copyrighted though like the old school Nintendo games
You do realize that when you purchase a game, you do not own the assets within the game, the characters, the IP etc, but all you are doing is allowing the company to transfer a license to you for the game. While you may own the physical medium the game is on, the content of the game, assets, etc – you do not known but are given a license
Fair use. Done and done.
fair use requires a good share of original content.. the only original content in those videos is their commentary and some minor editing.. that’s not gonna cut it
needless to say that the picture looks even less in favor of LPers when you consider that they’re earning money with it.. very hard to claim fair use on that.
Nope, Let’s Players give their own comments while playing the game. If I’m playing through a Nintendo game and comment on everything I’m seeing and doing it’s just as much under fair use as a reviewer.
I suggest you look through the requirements for claiming fair use and then reconsider.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
A mere commentary already fails at “transformative”.
If this was really fair use Nintendo wouldn’t be able to claim a single cent of that revenue, but as it stands, they are.
Totalbiscuit, who does a weekly podcast can no longer show the tiniest bit of footage from a Nintendo game in his videos when he’s simply discussing the announcement of a Nintendo game or any news involving Nintendo in general without getting copyright strikes from them. Face it Nintendo doesn’t give a damn about fair use, and it’s been proven since they’ve gone after reviewers and the like.
I’m repeating myself: If it WERE fair use then totalbiscuit would have no problem showing that content.
Nintendo wouldn’t be able to go against videos that are classified as fair use.
Legally, I don’t think so… but I could be wrong. You can’t post a whole movie and just add your own commentary… I am against these rules, just saying
Also reviewers only present tiny fractions of a game, whereas LPers often present the whole game.. you’re comparing apples and oranges here.
You’re right. Nintendo is so great at advertising, they don’t need help. They should totally fuck anyone trying to show how fun Nintendo games are. It’s their content afterall. People should play their rented content in their homes and pull the shades on their windows.
Do you really think any youtuber even cares about showing how “fun” a game is?…
They are just mediocre good enough actors that plays Nintenco games or any game whatsoever to make a quick money grab because they don’t want to get a real job or study…
About 95% of all youtubers that make money are school drop-outs and jobless sheep…
The only good Lplayers are Chugga and Super Best Friends Zaibatsu because they clearly love games and gaming community listen to the super best friendcast to see how really are in to games
Still not valid if you show them the entire game…
True but at least they honest on how much they love games especially the Zaibatsu
Chuggaaconroy DID say that he LP’s games specifically to raise awareness of it…
It’s not about showing off a game. It’s about making a profit off of an IP that you don’t own.
I’m just saying, console ging is in danger, and Nintendo has fucked up their reputation over the last few years. Instead of partnering fairly with people who can help boost their brand and IP’s, they discourage it. I understand what you guys are saying, but what I’m saying, is Nintendo can use this to their advantage, or they can stick to the letter of the law and further smudge people’s perception of them.
Honestly, it’s about control. Nintendo wants to advertise their game a certain way and they can’t control the YouTube crowd so the “free advertising” they get from let’s plays might not be the kind of advertising Nintendo wants. However these characters and games belong to Nintendo and Nintendo only should make a profit. They’ve acknowledged that these content creators work hard so at least they’re offering half of the revenue on something they shouldn’t legally profit from in the first place.
I don’t agree, I think this is a lot more grey than you think, but I respect your opinion. ;)
Why thank you sir, I respect your opinion as well. However, the legal rights of an IP is pretty black and white. This whole YouTube thing falls under the same reason why we can’t make a copy of the game a sell it. We simply don’t own the IP rights to make any sort of profit.
I understand all of that, but I think Nintendo is being foolish and turning an opportunity into another reason for people to hate on them. They can make $50 on 10 people instead of $10 on 1000 + boosted reputation.
It seems Nintendo is more interested in pissing people off than making money. Fortunately, they are fucking game making gods or they wouldn’t survive the shit the pull on their fanbase.
You’re right, the pewd has probably helped sell tons of games through his channel. However Nintendo does things their own way and has been doing so for over 30 years. I really do think it’s more of a control thing rather than a personal hit to their fans.
Haha, well said.
Wow, I actually agree with PewDiePie. I love Nintendo’s games but they can screw right off with this youtube bullshit.
By sharing revenues instead of getting slammed by copyright strikes like what got them into a few controversies in 2013? That makes sense. Not saying it’s the best idea but it’s better than nothing.
And cutting off someone’s foot isn’t as bad as cutting off both their legs and arms, still a dick move that shouldn’t be acceptable.
And let’s take a look at those who do use the same tactics…pretty much any associated company like Sony, EA, fucking Google does the same right under your noses but oh, it’s all Nintendo’s fault when they try something after others have done it without a peep from the same fuckheads complaining now.
You do realize it’s people posting videos on GOOGLE’S website yes? How do you think they make any money from Youtube to begin with? Last I checked Nintendo makes money from us buying their games. If Youtube didn’t take a cut the website would have died years ago. Also EA and Sony aren’t that bad at all in this situation. That’s why you can easily go on Youtube right now and find plenty of Let’s Plays for games like The Last of Us and Dead Space.
And this is their solution to stop copyright problems but it’s still not good enough for them because they’re too fucking greedy for that money. Newsflash, YouTube is not a fucking job. It’s a video sharing website mainly for sharing enjoyment and news.
I have higher expectations for Nintendo. I expect the others to act like asshats.
They’re always hating Nintendo out of asshat behavior. How so? Greed.
PewDiePie is now officially an enemy of the empire…
awww poor baby..what an entitled whine bag him and other lets players thinking they deserve money fr playing games
Lol yes, because Nintendo aren’t being entitled at all by demanding to get paid from having people play their games. If Nintendo want in on this maybe they should legit hire a let’s player or two instead of trying to grab other people’s money? How about that?
No one’s demanding to get paid for playing their games, their demanding to get paid because you’re using their asset to get paid.
This mattkbyrne is a funny kid, you can see like me the result of a stupid kid thinking he is smart, hilarious!!!
Umm what? People have been getting paid to provide us entertainment since forever? Actors, comedians, and yes, if your talented in converting your gaming experience into content, gaming as well.
Nintendo should be PAYING them for advertising, not stealing from them.
Jon tron is entertainment…avgn is entertainment ..lets plays are not entertainment..shitty pure is not entertainment
If Let’s Plays are not entertainment then no other form of media where you sit down and watch as someone ENTERTAINS YOU can be considered entertainment either. You not liking a form of media doesn’t stop it from being entertaining to others. I’ll give you a few minutes if you need to sit down after that mind blowing revelation.
Reproducing copyrighted material for profit is illegal, Nintendo could very well flag those videos or redirect/cancel all revenue and they would have both the legal and moral upper hand, there’s no way to defend these parasites, if they want pay for their pointless commentary (Which is the only original content going into those videos) I’d say Nintendo is giving them more than enough for something that is COMPLETELY WORTHLESS.
The diferences is that people like the AVGN and abridgers they figure out to make money without using the IPs they don’t own TFS has their t-shirsts and the like and James rolfe has his dvds and his website
Besides Nintendo should not be forced to pay anyone for advertizing if they never asked for it ..In any form of entertainment if someone uses someone else’s brand they have to pay a fee ..you need to pay for name brands to be used in movies and other stuff
Except Nintendo isn’t forced to pay advertising in any of these situations. They’ve been getting FREE advertising. Also paying a fee to use name brands and stuff in movies and the like doesn’t make it ok either. It just shows how even more closed minded those forms of media are. I do like that we’re agreeable on one thing though. Nintendo is as bad as the movie/music industry when it comes to the means of fair use. Thanks for that :)
They are getting paid, with advertising revenue. These actors and comedians that have been providing entertainment make money off of THEIR OWN CONTENT.
Sometimes. Sometimes not. Comedians ALWAYS use content that isn’t their own. Movies, actors, they use anything and everything. They do not soley use original content.
If that were completely true they wouldn’t even need to play a game and they’d still earn money. Curious how no one does that.
Yes but those entertainers will get sued if they use copyrighted material in their entertaining without permission.
I agree, I think publishers are being greedy and making a mistake. These games would otherwise not be marketed or advertised through creative content if these people didn’t choose to do it. Nintendo is treating content creators as contract partners in publicizing their games. If these creators can’t make a living off of YouTube, then that means less YouTube videos, and less exposure. This is coming from a company that wouldn’t have ever thought of using YouTube in this way.
You guys act like they even care about advertising the games ..all of these lets players play what ever the flavor of the month game is ..mine craft..five nights what ever it may be thats all they care about …Nintendo makes the games they use in their streams so if they want a cut they are more than entitled
Nintendo needs to fire whoever is coming up with their youtube policies.
In Nintendo land YOU pay to advertise someone else’s product.
No… You still get paid half the revenue. For an IP you DON”T OWN.
Hate to break it to ya, but I OWN MY GAMEPLAY. Nintendo made the game, I played it, and produced my own content by playing. That’s how games work. No matter how minuscule the difference no two playthroughs of a game will be 100% identical due to the freedom of playing a game vs movies/music. The game was made by Nintendo, the footage recorded was made by the player. Every other game company gets this, Nintendo need to get with the times.
Wow… You are totally missing the point. You buy the game but that doesn’t mean you can copy it and sell it to a friend. That is NOT how intellectual properties work. Sure you payed for the game but you don’t own the characters or the game play, Nintendo does. All you own is the right to play the game and share it without a profit. Once you start making a profit it becomes illegal if you don’t own the intellectual property.
You Are Stupid!!!
The hypocrisy is strong here
Let’s Play and gaming videos are awesome and should be protected and helped to flourish.
IP law gives you some defences if you use third party content without permission but it can be dicey. So in reality…
Game footage in a gaming video will require the consent of the game developer/publisher. Many are friendly.
Non-game content in a gaming video, e.g. music/art, will DEFINITELY require a licence. Don’t get one at your own risk.
Takedown notices are actually the only way in which the system can work – they’re the best of a bad situation.
Understand how takedown notices work, in particular that you can file a counter-notice to bring the heat back to the complainant.
We’re entering an uncertain time for gaming videos: they will continue to become more and more popular but making them will become more regulated
No you don’t. You own the license to play the game dumbass. Not the gameplay itself.
And in retarded mattkbyrne man you pay to let other people use your hard work for personal profit.
I really despise Pewdiepie.
That being said, the man does raise a point.
What point? That he’s angry he’s not getting an unjust retribution for masking his copyright infringements with worthless commentary?
He should be glad Nintendo is offering what would be considered an instant partnership, when all he does in the way of “original content” is small talk and Nintendo is actually providing the substance of his videos.
Simply put, the entire substance in LP is the game being presented, the fact that there’s playthrough videos without commentary but not commentary videos without playthrough is proof enough of that.
I have to agree with him. This Nintendo Youtube thing sound ed good at first but once you read it more carefully it sounds really shitty.
Sounded*
Fuck people watching games. Buy it or fuck off.
I wonder if they watch their girlfriend being fucked too???
Ok, this made it worth it to scroll down all the retarded comments killing the brain cells that alcohol has yet to destroy.
I’m going to continue to watch LPs to spite you.
Nintendo news didn’t state what he said next so here:
“So, you should reconsider this decision Nintendo. (◕‿◕✿)
Added note: I’ll still play Nintendo games that I want to play on my channel as usual. I’m lucky to be in a situation where losing ad REVENUE on a few videos wont matter. However, many people on YouTube are not in that situation.
Everyone loses in this scenario that Nintendo has created, that’s why I’m against it.”
Precisely. A least there’s someone out there who read the whole thing.
Nintendo is a bit weird and traditional in some respects…I think they need to grow out of a few things….keep making the ”casual games for babies” though.
What’s amusing is that it’s the richest youtuber that brings this into attention, not the poor ones…
Typical rich humans with their fear of losing a percentage that in the end doens’t even affect them at all considering their millions of resources…
Human arrogant cattle…
Exactly also someone who does not even play Nintendo games on his channel funny how guys like pro Jared who focus manly on Nintendo titles have yet to say anything like this .
Indeed, this imbecile is an Xbot and obviously all the haters and Xbots will agree with this lazy Swedish cattle sheep that wants to get paid for somehting nobody forced him to do and because he is too sacred of getting a real job…
*scared…
Except he doesn’t upload nintendo related content, durrhurrr
You just check mated yourself…
Then why is this imbecile complaining?…
Stupid apes…
Because it has nothing to do with what he does. He’s saying it’s bullshit, because it really is bullshit.
Checkmate
Of course you lazy no working apes will agree with him…
Go and get a real job and stop stealing money…
Argument invalid, this isn’t a personal issue. You’re trapped in a corner. What will it be,licker of nintendos asshole.?
Personal, keep defending your lazy lives…
Youtube shouldn’t even have this garbage in the first place…
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/PewDiePie
Smh. Are some of you guys seriously trying to defend Nintendo about this? With comments like “go get a real job” or “he’s just lazy”. Take off your fanboy glasses. This IS their job. Stop being butthurt over this. If you could make money by playing video games, you know you would damn well take up that offer. If someone wanted to take away your money for doing your job wouldn’t you be pissed? Nintendo’s YouTube policy is stupid BS.
it’s a job, it’s that or having people on the streets stealing or killing each other
No it’s not.And if those idiots have to go to stealing and murder without trying to get a job or go to school first then they are the ones to blame..
Don’t try it kid, making youtube videos because you want to make them IS NOT A JOB…
He does not own the rights to Nintendo games to make money of it, Nintendo did the work, they did the games! When you get a job, tell me where you work so I can claim your paycheck for the job you did just because I watch you do it while yelling at you!
Liking you own comments ? lol
No one who does nintendo eslcuse content is bitching about it so why should we give a shit what poodie pie says the man plays what ever is hot he does not give a crap about helping a game sell he cares about making a quick buck
Doesn’t matter who speaks out. Bullshit is bullshit. By your logic, you shouldn’t even be defending nintendo since you have nothing to do with it.
Neither does that Xbot PieDiePie and yet you defend him, idiot…
How’s he an Xbot if he’s never played a single Xbox exclusive in his entire YouTube history? Lmao note that one of his most famous LPs was TLOU
Xbot or Sonyan, no difference…
Nintendo channels won’t speak out about it because if you notice in the terms of service of this new system they CAN’T so right now it’s either shut up or lose everything and leave it to the people who don’t post Nintendo games all the time to push back.
The Best Friends are already partnered with an MCN (Machinima) so they’re actually fine as is (this Nintendo Partner program is mostly for YouTubers not already part of MCN). I say this because people like Jwittz, PBG, and BalrogTheMaster have said this whole thing doesn’t affect them due to their Polaris/Maker Studios partnership.
Plus MCN’s in general already take some ad revenue from your videos as is (usually as a way to help prevent content IDs, notice that Best Friends apparently never got content ID’s for using wrestling themes in Rustlemania or “Rollin'” by Limp Bizkit in that one Cryme Tyme video? Generally copyrighted music gets you hit hard with content IDs), so to me this Nintendo MCN thing is really not that different from other MCNs (granted that “white list” really needs some expanding, it really should just be “any game published by Nintendo”).
Because it has nothing to do with what he does. He’s saying bullshit, because he really is full of bullshit.
Check mate!
OH, it is not that he is the richest, there are plenty of wealthy to down right poor youtuber that are bringing this into attention, it just that he is the one that can make this into the headlines been the one with the most subscribers on the internet.
Yes by millions of stupid idiots that loves his idiotic videos…
But no one listens to the small guys :/ So reguardless what kind of person he is, his statement will petition for the smaller guys.
Grunts or not, this is the same thing as any youtuber showing whole movies and so on in youtube without the permission of the company…
You’re a f***ing idiot. You experience movies by watching it but for games the only way to truly experience it is by actually playing it yourself. People like you are a cancer to the gaming community, alway dick riding they’re beloved company who don’t give a fuck about you while fuck you in the ass
Then how about they buy the game instead of watching it you stupid ape…
Because they want t see if it’s their cup of tea instead of blindly buying the game or soleley basing it on biased (the actual definition) trailers from the devs?
Solely*
Either ask for permission or stop complaining that they are taking a share, it’s that simple, I don’t care about the cattle’s intentions, the law is the law…
if “the law is the law” why aren’t other companies doing what Nintendo’s doing? Why isn’t Blizzard copyrighting WoW YouTube LP’s or Twitch streams? Why isn’t Bungie stopping Angry Joe from aking a Destiny 6/10 review for “gameplay footage”? Why the fuck would Sony even put a SHARE BUTTON ON THE DUALSHOCK 4?
And then they wonder why they are in serious debt…
Specially the Sonyans…
Twitch has been allowed, if Nintendo shows themselves personally like they have several times now, that means that they gave this channel permission and so there is nothing wrong with it…
And maybe most of them allow it because they know how much backslash they have been given for their countless of gimped, bugged and garbage games when they are released…
Maybe you should be reading his full post instead of being ignorant commander:
“I’m lucky to be in a situation where losing ad revenue on a few videos wont matter. However, many people on YouTube are not in that situation.
Everyone loses in this scenario that Nintendo has created, that’s why I’m against it.”
I’ve read that and it’s his own self-excusable argument to be allowed to make money by using company properties…
Even if he is not the one losing money from Nintendo, what everyone else is doing by showing entire games is illegal and 0% justifiable…
How about they make original videos to make money instead of parasiting on other’s work…
Do you realize how many games have been successful just because YouTubers started let’s playing it?
And I’m sure most of them are non Nintendo games because they sell themselves no matter what because of the brainwashed cattle that hates Nintendo beyond reason while buying games from companies that lies to them in secret…
Cue “get a real job” comments
>sitting in front of a camera playing a game
>job
pick one…if that is a job i want one for browsing internet all day showing off websites
Then start making Youtube videos about it and see if it works instead of just being a hypothetical asshat.
Definition of a job:
“A task or piece of work, especially one that is paid.”
If what LPers are doing isn’t a job, I don’t know WHAT is.
Making drugs, selling them and then getting paid I guess is a legal job too then…
Hearing this guy defending the name of Nintendo gamers and yet never played any Nintendo game before is like falling in love a stranger you don’t know.
If he has a problem with this idea, all you have to do is don’t profit from gameplay videos. It’s a lazy cash in scheme for people who hate to work for their worth AND there’s an option to opt out that feature so problem solved.
He is defending his own arrogance and greed…
Exactly. They only complain because they ain’t getting all of that free load money for themselves. Oh well.
So, he isn’t allowed to defend something just because he personally isn’t directly affected by it?
If i’m not mistaken, he actually has played Nintendo games before, btw. Just because he doesn’t upload any videos of them, doesn’t mean he doesn’t play them.
Still has no invitation to just call out a company over something that’s suppose to serve as a solution for both worlds and over something other companies do right in front of them and still not a single complaint for them. Nintendo is always the easiest target for idiots to pick on because they’re not the type to kiss those selfish asses easily.
The hate for the empire really started when the Xbots divided gamers into 2 factions and because they got brainwashed by these Call of Duty nonsense games that made them feel as if gore, blood and weapons are the way to go while real games are just for kids…
The hate comes because Nintendo does their own ting like they’ve always done while the cattle got corrupted by these western imbeciles…
A-fucking-men Spider-Slayer. :)
Almost sure no other company takes more than half the ad revenue from people who make gameplay videos of their games. Even EA, your mooost favourite and mooost greedy company doesn’t do that.
Besides, why exactly does he have no invitation to state his opinion on the matter? Whether you like it or not, he is the biggest YouTuber out there, and him being vocal about an issue like this is going to attract significantly more attention than if a bunch of small YouTubers expressed their opinion about it. Just because he doesn’t make videos of Nintendo games doesn’t mean he can’t speak up for those who are affected by the problem but wouldn’t be heard if they tried to make people listen themselves.
There’s a mistake on my end – Nintendo will take up to 40% of the revenue, not more than half. I previously read that it was the other way around, say, 40% for the creator of the video and 60% for Nintendo; just checked it again though, and turns out that’s not the case.
So, sorry about that one. It doesn’t really change much about what I’ve said though, so my previous comment still stands.
Give me your address so I can raid your house & take your stuff, since the concept of propriety doesn’t seem to mean anything to you!!!
Is that truly what you’ve gotten out of my comment? If so, that’s absolutely fascinating.
While not a fan of his channel, I do like this charity work. He is right. Nintendo shouldn’t do this because their are many benefits to this. I think if Nintendo Does do this it needs to be more friendly. It is in beta form now, so with big enough backlash Nintendo will most likely adjust it. If they want to do a small tax, thats fine, but you need to reward these people, who bring in best content. I hate LP ers that just play the game, and don’t speck, I like the ones like Chugga, Johhny vs, ect. They bring bring good content. Give them benefits like access to things that only nintendo can offer( betas for LPS, or demos showing off the games before release), or a tax cut. A tax cut like if your channel is at this, level, you will only have to pay us 10%. Iwata himself said that Internet has strong powers and effects, and this is just what they will see soon. Splatoon is getting tons of good vibes, but it could use more, and there is nothing wrong about that. Hell if any game needs it, Code Name Steam needs it that game, is not getting the attention it needs,and its clear nintendo wants the game to do well. Thats another thing they could do is sponsor Lpers to play through a game thats about to release, make that a benfit. I don’t always need LPs to tell me what to buy, but some people do
To sum up, the program isn’t a bad idea just needs tons of work, to make it work for both worlds
I can go with that. If Nintendo only took 20-25%, I’d say that would be fair. Social media is huge right now. Business need to adapt or get shunned by consumers. A brand can rise or fall based on their social media strategy.
Again not bad idea just needs to be tweaked
still think people shouldn’t really get paid for Nintendo’s games
It’s Nintendo’s products. They have the right to say who can make money off their stuff. No one can criticize.
If these were my games that people were making money off of, I would want some of the profit too.
That’s a reasonable statement, but taking more than half is rediculous. They want paid for doing NO work. They got their money when the game was purchased. They get more money when someone watches the video and goes to buy the game. People call these youtubers lazy, when Nintendo takes the cake for wanting something for nothing. It’s understandable to want to regulate who is using their IP so it doesn’t get used in shitty content. Taking more than half the revenue is just a greedy ass move.
I hate to say this but…I agree with Pewdiepie. I may hate the guy’s videos, and I think people like him and his ilk have very negatively affected what gaming is and the gaming industry as a whole, but from a purely business point of view, taking money out of Youtubers pockets is a silly thing to do. I think they’ll realise that in the end, but as usual with Nintendo, it’ll be years too late!
“I also think this is a slap in the face to the YouTube channels that does focus on Nintendo game exclusively. The people who have helped and showed passion for Nintendo’s community are the ones left in the dirt the most.”
Says the guy that has never played a Nintendo game on his channel ’cause Nintendo doesn’t fill his pockets with money or pay him to put their games on his channel, so, who’s the greedy asshole now?… Companies pay this guy to play their games and make videos about it, he’s bitter ’cause Nintendo has never asked him to play any game of theirs… And doesn’t fill his pockets with money… At least Nintendo makes money from MAKING games, this guy makes money from people seeing him scream and yell at his computer or TV while playing video games… >.>
You missed his point jackass.
An arrogant greedy Swedish Xbot has no point to make…
That’s good, lets players are a cancer.
While i hate pewdiepie and most let’s players with the exeception of the Zaibatsu and Chugga
Let’s players still important to advertise a game people watch the game they get interested on it and they may buy it i just wish Pewdiepie wasn’t the most popular like i said i hate most let’s players for a reason and that reason is that most of them clearly don’t know a thing or two about the gaming community or they don’t have the same passion for games like alot us do that’s why i wish people supported let’s players like Chugga or the Zaibatsu people who clearly love games and they want the world to know about them and talk about the gaming industry
You know what is also free advertising? Pirating a game to try for yourself to see if its good enough to buy. Guess what? That’s illegal and frowned upon too.
Here comes the people defending piracy with excuses
Personally i think piracy is worst than thef why? because some people need to steal to survive you don’t need game to survive
Those two things have nothing to do with each other
So by your logic there should no gameplay videoes at all on YouTube and we should by our games solely based on the trailers the companies release
You can have a video showing a stage maybe, not the entire game which is really why this issue is brought up in the first place…
The reason he’s so asshurt over it is because it’ll flood YouTube with lots if competition. Which is good. I personally never thought about having a channel, but if Nintendo is going to pay me why not try? They make it really easy too. 70% is a lot more than zero percent for doing something I already do.
They’re not you paying anything. They’re just taking a cut of YOUR profits. If your videoed only get like 100 views you’re not making any money
Wrong. They’re allowing you to use their content to make money so they decided they want a cut of the profit. They didn’t have to allow this asshole to keep anything. They could have sued to have his channel shut down. And they would have won.
As much as i hate Pewdiepie and most of the let’s players with the exeception of the Zaibatsu and Chugga (especially the Zaibatsu) the guy has point
Oh these poor youtube millionaires…..
You fanboys are a cancer to the gaming industry
Said the cattle that defends criminal activities…
Wow now let’s plays are criminal acts now? When you thought fanboys couldn’t get any more stupid…
Under the empire’s laws it is, now go back to your ludus or whatever primitive cattle house you came from…
Shut up ya silly talentless douche. Only people whose opinion matters less than you are the millions of idiots that follow you and your “work.”
can anybody explain to me why this dude is relevant?
no better, can anybody explain to me why this dude has a bazillion subscribers on youtube?
And can you explain why he is any less relevant than you are? How many subscribers do you have again?
Because people like him? And not everyone has the same tastes as you? Have you ever heard of an opinion
I don’t know of that with Pewdiepie but people watch let’s play for the commentary and to see if they interest in the game before givin it a try sadly most let’s players (especially Pewdiepie) clearly don’t know a thing about gaming in all honestly only a handful of let’s players are worth to watch like Chugga who provides help and strategy with the games he plays (like his recent Xenoblade play through) and the Zaibatsu who love game and gaming hell they were even testers for games not to mention they Also talk in deep about a game or a series they like (i recommend to watch their top worst of 2013 to see what i mean by that)
But sadly most people enjoy Let’s players like Pewdiepie who rely mostly on scream reactions
Because people like him? And not everyone has the same tastes as you? Have you ever heard of an opinion?
The whole different taste does not change the objective quality of a work either an entertainment product or a piece of art people like things like FF XIII despite having a cliche story and repetitive gameplay i can understand why People may like Pewdiepie but that doesn’t change the fact that he is not preciasly the best on this
I don’t really see what’s so wrong with this especially if you are making a lot of money on every company’s properties. This is basically part of the cut you get for making videos on all the systems you use, it’s not you making a video on a game on Steam and Nintendo takes sone of your money on that. Besides haven’t Capcom and Microsoft started copyright laws too? (i haven’t been paying attention to the subject)
Yes especially capcom with the SF V trailer that happened to Maximiliam Dood and Angry Joe granted Max dealed with the situation in a more calm and mature way than Joe
I think you guys are missing the point here. This technically doesn’t even affect Pewds at all because of how much money he makes. He can afford to never make a cent out of Nintendo games and still have about the same financial comfort. What you’re all forgetting is that he communicates with other Let’s Players all the time, so he can still see what kind of damage this can do to Nintendo heavy channels.
And for those saying that Let’s Playing isn’t a job, let me pull up the definition for you:
A regular activity performed in exchange for payment, especially as one’s trade, occupation, or profession.
I’d say LP’s qualify as an activity, and people are getting paid for it whether you like it or not.
And let’s not forget the many people who use Let’s Plays as either guides or to get a taste of what the gameplay is really like. There are several games I had never even heard of before, but because of Let’s Players like Chuggaaconroy, I can now enjoy the likes of Okami and Xenoblade Chronicles (Before Shulk was confirmed for Smash).
Cut these guys a break. If they do it well, then they’re working their asses off doing what they do, yet are constantly shit on by Nintendo’s Youtube policies.
Giving the youtubers 60% profit would not fall into the catagory of “shitting on them”. Children always think they are so smart. Until they grow up and realize they were wromg about everything. I know, it happened to me.
It is Nintendo content therefore it is only fair Nintendo gets a share of the benefits. How much this share should be is another matter.
It is certainly fair and well within their right, but the question here is:
a) Does it hurt PR?
b) i) Does it stop big Youtubers from playing their games?
ii) Would big Youtubers playing their games be good advertising?
If like me, you think the answers are yes, yes, and yes, then this doesn’t make sense for Nintendo.
Nintendo games were all over youtube when Nintendo was taking 100% revenue. A few whiny little spoiled brats will not change anything.
That is what licensing negotiations are for. Maybe he should get his lawyer and do what a company does and go to them and negotiate a deal.
But the new policy is BETTER now. Before, Nintendo got 100% of ad revenue from videos featuring their products. NOW they’re letting the content creators of Youtube have a share of it. What is the problem? You don’t want money from your videos?
It’s a step up from what they had before, and that’s great to me.
Oh, by the way, because I’m fed up of agreeing with Pewdiepie, who I repeat, makes awful videos and has had a very negative effect on the gaming industry, let’s criticise what he says now.
“And finally, when there’s just so many games out there to play. Nintendo games just went to the bottom of that list.”
Heaven forbid you play Nintendo’s games because they’re good, eh? No, actually Pewdiepie, you keep away from Nintendo’s properties. I’d rather you didn’t contaminate them with your inanity
Fucking hate that guy. Now all his 30-odd million followers are gonna gang up against Nintendo too just cause they think everything he says is law.
The more negative feedback Nintendo gets the better
He will still make four million a year being annoying. The Nintendo thing is a bad idea on their part, though. Youtube gameplay is free advertising, and they just shut that down.
Can someone please explain why people are mad that Nintendo is sharing money with them?
Because let’s players want all the revenue despite the fact they don’t own the IP
Yes they have the right to upload gameplay footage as long as they don’t make money out for some LPlayers this is not a problem since they don’t make money out of it, but people like PewDiePie and Angry Joe they literally live out of YouTube
Reviewers have they right to complain about this Cuz the really doing Fair use since they giving their opinion and criticism of a game
But things get complicate with let’s players since they are showing the whole game now i know that this can help to promote a game but it Also could damage the reputations of a game since alot of LPlayers are not very knowledge of gaming like other LPlayers like Chuggaconroy who provides tip and strategy for his letsplay or Super Best Zaibatsu who have a good knowledge on gaming since they have work on games honestly this is very complicate since LP are no the same thing as a review
I don’t give a shit what Pewdiepie has to say. His channel is full of click-bait, lolrandom shit. This opinion has been the popular opinion anyways. I hate this guy, he is pretty much controlling the market with stupid games.
Dont get pisswd at Nintendo. Its their content that people are making off of. If you created something and someone else was making a profit off it wouldnt you be mad?
They do not understand intellectual properties because they think they feel entitled to make money out of someone else’s properties instead of making their own things…
It’s useless to make these cattle masses understand this specially when it comes to Nintendo since their hatred towards the empire is so far up their rectum that they make no sense…
Anyone defending these Xbot youtubers are invalid as life-forms…
This guys is a complete dumb-ass. Anytime you try to license someone else’s work, you ALWAYS have to negotiate some kind of fee, that how business works. Anytime you put a picture, a drawing, music or any multi-media in something you do other than news reporting or a documentary, you have to pay for a commercial use, this is no different. What he is doing is a commercial venture.
And just look at other services where this happen, publishing a game to the Apple Store 30%, publish a book on the Amazon platform 30%, put a game up on Android 30% of sales. Same goes for publishing music on a platform you pay a percentage of every song sold on a service.
He is lucky there is even a set of rules out there cause other haven’t been so clear. This program might not be great for let players which have a had a free ride up to this point, but its good for people who want to create content and use Nintendo characters in it without having Youtube bots kill their income.
Holy ****, so many comments. Nintendo needs to stop being stupid with business choices. I guess the program with the 60% for you and the rest to Nintendo was better than 100% to Nintendo, but still, comparatively, how much more money are they making off of this? Nintendo is being kinda greedy these days…
Greedy?…
The greedy ones are the ones making money out of Nintendo’s properties by just adding comments and a little editing…
That is not a job and certainly does not warrant money making…
It falls under fair use idiot
When you have the permission from the company itself yes you imbecile, now go back to your illegal worshiping…
Games are literally bundles of IP rights: the copyright in audio and graphics, the trademark protection in a game’s name or brand and so forth.
Fair use: in the US ONLY there is a fairly wide legal principle called fair use, which effectively can reduce or remove altogether the IP owner’s ability to sue for IP infringement as long as you meet certain criteria. Some key factors include whether you are engaged in “transformative use” (ie to take existing content and make it into something new), whether you are exercising your right to freedom of expression in doing so and whether you are making money from the video.
Actually as someone who works in media, it doesn’t. He is making monetary value and isn’t doing anything that would fall under news, reporting or documenting an event. The problem is even education books that you use in your school has to pay for rights of images, video and multi-media, so saying he is educating is not enough.
How does it fall on fair use? Unless that you do what matthewmatosis does, a long critique of the game taking account of all it elements like Story, Gameplay, etc
A let’s play rarely does that like Pewdiepie’s let’s play that hardly critique the game an example of this his Beyond Two Souls Playthrough were he never touches upon the fact that the game decisions lack any kind of real impact on the game you can literally play the whole game without choosing any decition and the game will continue
Damn people, any business desicion Nintendo makes is bad, and greedy, and blah blah.
Who here and Who (out of the people who speak out against Nintendo , i.e. Pewdiepie, or Patcher), Who[!] runs a multi billion yen company?
When anybody gets that much experience, please state your facts!
If everybody had everything they wanted at the time they wanted and the world and its people are peaceful and consider everyones emotions and opinions, what is left of true life?
Days go by, so do desicions
First off, admit it, you have a wee bit of bias, NECQ. Second, honestly, how much money is Nintendo making off of this? Probably not much compared to the actual GAMES they are putting out, but it couldn’t be altogether anually more than half of what say “Pewdiepie” makes in a day or two… I think Nintendo needs to really treat the people who absolutely CHERISH their games and WANT to review and play them well. I don’t exactly think that LPers and Reviewers deserve money off of their work, but for those who make a LIVING off of playing and reviewing Nintendo games, Nintendo basically is just making them not do it anymore. I suspect that only the hardcore LPers (somewhat like Chuggaaconroy) who do it for fun and fanbase mostly will keep doing it, unless they weren’t monetizing their videos anyway. I don’t mean to say that Nintendo is 100% greedy, but they are just a tiny bit… ya know, like a normal company :P.
I don’t care how much work or not they put on their videos…
If they did not ask for permission by Nintendo to use their content TO MAKE MONEY, then Nintendo is the one that has all the right…
There is a difference between posting a short gameplay or something and another posting the entire game…
And as long as anyone wants to make money out of a company’s or another human’s work then they must ask for permission…
This has nothing to do with me liking Nintendo or how much money they make, rules are rules…
Of course Nintendo has all the rights to take some/all of their youtube income, but how come not all companies are doing it then? Shouldn’t this be the standard by now if it’s that easy to take some of a youtuber’s income? I really am not trying to start a war here, but I understand that the law is the law, but if it’s that important for them to start taking some of the income of youtubers, how come they weren’t doing it from the start? Shouldn’t Youtube have been illegal if they allowed Lets Plays of games that they don’t own to be shown without them taking revenue in the first place? I’m sure that I’m not completely right, but I think I have at least some good points in there. I agree that Nintendo technically has every single right to take in all of the Nintendo gaming revenue on YouTube, and that they could even remove them all if they so pleased. But, this is hurting Nintendo’s reputation, and it seems like they keep making bad decisions left and right lately. (Albeit small nitpicks like naming the next 3DS the “new” 3ds… The words still ring in my head, “Do you want a original new 3ds or a ‘new’ new 3ds?”XD).
So because they make silly decisions sometimes they must allow the haters and fans to make money off their properties?…
The bad reputation came from this HD generation, the hate started when the Wii had no HD and the other 2 did and that’s when many were hating on them because graphics suddenly became more important than gaming…
That’s when this whole charade started and now no matter what they do, the cattle masses will just hate them automatically…
And no I do not support every decision they make, just like the stupid naming of the Wii U and New New 3DS as 2 of many idiotic decisions…
I think the hate started before then… The first small wave of haters when the Genesis/Mega Drive was doing “Nintendon’t”, and wave two, a larger wave, came when the PS1 came out, except it was mainly those who only knew that one system brand from their childhood. Probably the biggest wave was the one you mentioned.
Nintendo is full of greedy shit heads…I never thought I would be saying this… but WOW Nintendo… I really fucking hate you greedy asses.
It’s not being greedy you want your share of your own projects while letting you keep everything else you make money on. This guy doesn’t even make videos on Nintendo games anymore, he’s a PC gamer like everyone else so why should we care?
PewDiePie you’re already extremely rich, you don’t even need to ever make a $1 ever again for the rest of your life, and I don’t recall you even ever really playing Nintendo games. So just shut the fuck up. While YouTuber’s don’t get ALL the profit from their games they get half of it, which guess what? Before you COULDN’T get ANY so now Nintendo is letting you get some.
So he’s a bad person for speaking up for smaller YouTubers who are affected by this whole thing but wouldn’t be heard if they attempted to make people listen?
Ok.
The quote in this article isn’t the full comment he made about the matter, at the end of his original comment he very well mentioned that he, luckily, doesn’t have to worry about these kinda things, but he’s aware that there are enough people who do.
So many hypocrits on this forum.
Everyone is saying Nintendo is greedy, while calling the youtubers justified. That’s complete bullshit.
In cases like this for some reason I always think of Sakurai. He works 7 days a week on Smash Bros. for years. It puts him in the hospital, and i’m sure it impacted his family life. He sacrificed alot to make that game.
Then your telling me some snot nosed brat says that HE (Sakurai) cannot, and should not be allowed to make ad revenue off of HIS fucking game? The game that he put blood sweat and tears into? The game he was willing to sacrifice everything to make? But he cannot claim ad revenue from his creation? And even go so far as to call him greedy? I’m sorry but I fail to understand the logic from any of you who side with pewdiepie. Your all a bunch of hypocrits.
Nintendo should change their decision and take all of the ad revenue.
Well said!
And hopefully send computer viruses a long with that plan to get rid of their stupidity once and for all….
Wow your head is so far up Nintendo’s ass, it’s never coming out
^Of course someone disagrees
And for the rest of us, it doesn’t mean a thing or change our lives in anyway. No hating or hurt feelings here.
I just think it’s ironically hilarious.. Does nobody else see it?
Example: “Nintendo is so greedy for this! Damn Nintendo’s greed. Greedy ass Nintendo, how dare they. Greedy greedy greedy! We should be allowed to keep ALL the money for ourselves!”
<<<< Facepalms so hard it knocks me down through the earth and ends up under my own bed with the spiders.
what a bunch of whiny bitches. How can they expect to use other companies’ or persons’ copyrighted property at their whim with no repercussions? These people (those who feel entitled) that make Americans look bad to the rest of the world.
You know PewDiePie is from Sweden, right?
Swedish Xbots are US worshippers, no difference between the 2 cattle groups…
Honestly, as much as I love Nintendo, I have to agree with Pewds here.
He’s got some points. Although I agree that Nintendo can do whatever they want with their content distribution, they are still screwing themselves over with this decision. I hope they realize this asap.
Too much complaining. Put yourselves in the owner’s shoes. If you have let’s say a song that you wrote just and somebody uses for profit. How would you react? If they are not earning from ads then it is fine.
Also, it is an uncontrolled environment. LP’ers can either bash or praise a game. 50/50 is fair. Better than Nintendo suing people.
Classic ramble of nerds that plays videogames on YT to make money.
And again, Nintendo is far away from being wrong in doing this, they are the owner of the IPs. Whey you buy a game, you buy ONLY hte game, not the rights to showcase it in a public network. Be glad thath the biggest percentage of the revenue goes for the player.
absolutely in the Nintendo camp with this one. this sense of entitlement with this generation is fucking astounding. and not just with this “lets play” bullshit, but with everything.
it is what it is: Generation Waste of Flesh
God, what’s wrong with you? That’s a terrible thing to say. Smh…
Ahh, clear example of what Daredevil is saying: We life in the fucking era in which being honest is now harassment.
Glad i don’t upload nintendo gsmeplay vids on my channel.
what about this shit?:
Exposed yet again…
Obinna burned to death!!!
People should only own the right to buy and play the game, not to use the intellectual property to gain profit for themselves.
Also, Nintendo’s intellectual property is a representation of who they are, so of course they would want to control how they’re advertised.
It sounds like he cares more about the fact that he’s going to be losing money instead of being able to use Nintendo content in his works.
This was settled long ago when Zack Scott had to fall silent because his “censorship” bullshit argument all but fell apart on its very own.
Nintendo never disabled those videos, Nintendo disabled ad revenue, the material has been there to use freely as long as it is not exploited for revenue which is a flagrant violation of copyright laws, so any kind of crap these LPers they tried to prove with comments about “artistic integrity” and “fair use” fell incredibly flat.
Now they’re going with the “Bu-bu-but mah advertisement” shit argument, which is bound to fail too because they’re not advertising anything that actually needs advertising, they’re just clickbaiting the flavor of the moment for revenue.
The whole thing is a debacle and it’s indefensible, the fact that they bullied Nintendo into allowing this should have been enough, but they keep bitching because it’s all about the money, they don’t care about the law, or the content, or their viewership, and anyone who thinks so is kidding themselves.
I do agree with Pewdipie that it is disabling free publicity for their games, but I understand the counterarguement also.
For once, I actually agree with PewDiePie. YouTubers doing Let’s Plays are basically just free advertising for Nintendo, why should they get paid for someone else doing the advertising for them?? Nintendo should be the ones paying them!
Eh no since they don’t own the IP and games are BUNDLES of copyright the music, assets, sound, etc is not really Free advertisenent if they guys are making a profit out of it
Some LPlayers don’t get into this trouble because the are not making money out of this so they can post all the gameplay they want
the problem comes when they are trying to make a profit of this remenber LP’s are not the same as a review that has Fair Use and LP doesn’t have that since People like Pewdiepie Barely critique the game since they depend on reaction more than anything but there some exceptions like MattewMatosis that which let’s play of Dark Souls II was an insightful look of the game from the story a gameplay perspective
But back to the topic an LP does not have Fair Use since doesn’t really transform the product and the commentary doesn’t count a transform
This giving the oportunity to people who don’t have an MNC like machinima and Polaris to make money of nintendo content rather than none that why they don’t have to worry about their footage getting taken down
Granted i still think this needs some tweaks to proper benefit both parties
Yes, because Pokemon needs advertising, it’s not like it sells millions of copies on release.
Pfft, are you for real? These people don’t advertise shit, they clickbait for revenue, they would be advertising if they were playing old, indie or unknown games, not the flavor of the moment.
Why the hell are people getting mad at Nintendo for not only “allowing” people to have Nintendo related videos, but even allowing people to make money from them? What am I missing here? I never made a freakin’ penny from YouTube back when I had a public account. The idea of making ANY money on YouTube sounds GREAT to me.
Because the LPers making money off of it are mad they can no longer get every penny from Nintendo’s property. As for the non LPers, this is just another chance for them to hate on Nintendo.
Translation: IT’S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, LIKE I’VE BEEN TELLING YOU FOR WELL OVER A YEAR NOW.
You see, this is why Zack Scott never replied to ANY of the comments, debate challenges or video responses and instead fell silent, because he knew that the “censorship” angle is total bullshit, Nintendo never flagged those videos or had them removed (That was a lazily-programmed YT flagbot that kept striking videos of all gaming developers, even some uploaded by those very same developers), the company simply REDIRECTED AD REVENUE, in total compliance with COPYRIGHT LAWS, because like everyone with two brain cells knows it is illegal to reproduce copyrighted content for revenue, you don’t do it with movies, you don’t do it with music, so why the hell would it be okay to do it with videogames eludes me to this day.
But the world is so mad that Nintendo actually got BULLIED into allowing this ILLEGAL practice, albeit halfway, but ILLEGAL nonetheless, and yet there’s people complaining because they’re so far up the douchebag hole that they believe it’s their god-given right to exploit the hard work of others, add meaningless yapping and make a living out of it.
If anything, Nintendo came up with the perfect solution to this non-issue, both parts getting equal revenue, one for the audio-visual content and the other for the commentary (Even if I still think the “But the commentary is my original content” argument is invalid because the commentary without the game is entirely worthless), Nintendo is the one trying to be “fair” here (I’d say they’re more like trying to please underserving douches), but of course people like PewDiePie who can’t be bothered to WORK and actually pay their POCKET MONEY for their games like 99% of the world have to protest and be cunty about it.
What’s with the essay?
I actually agree (the parts I understood that is).
I used to have hundreds of game-related videos on YouTube (until trolls stole all of my fun and caused me to close my account just to get away from the freaks). But I never made any money from the videos. I just made them because games is my passion. I couldn’t believe it when I first heard that people were making money from their videos (which wasn’t too long ago). However……I wasn’t that popular yet. I barely had only 300-something subscribers.
100 % agree.
Sorry, its their property….be happy they give you anything at all considering they could make you take it downa dn then you’d have nothing
^ BOOM ROASTED.
He’s entirely right. Nintendo need to fucking stop focusing so much on trying to impede youtubers and streamers, holy shit, they are obsessed with that and don’t even realize how much of an industry joke they are being considered already. Fuck that.
If i buy a book and then make an YouTube video about me, reading the entire book, i could say the only reason the people watch my show because of my sexy, manly voice. And of course the same people would buy this book because they liked it so much. And i’m sure the autor oft the book would praise me, because i adverised bis book with my sexy, manly voice.
This frames perfectly the largest problem with the LP enablers and defenders: THEY DON’T UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE ISSUE.
You’re here talking about advertising shit, out of the goodness of your heart, and everyone being compliant with it because of how oh-so-noble you are and here coming a villain to censor you for no reason. This is not what the issue is.
THIS IS AN ISSUE OF COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT, a violation of a law that says you may not reproduce the registered content of others in front of an audience for profit without the specific permits.
FAIR USE would defend this, if it really were about providing entertainment and advertising, but it is not, it’s about clickbaiting with the flavor of the moment.
Do you people really think Pokemon wouldn’t have sold what it did on its FIRST DAY without the LPs that appeared in the next weeks? Please.
If anything you lot should be glad you’re getting something for your worthless small talk.
Aw poor baby needs a real job….. Grabs Kleenex box
That’s the thing, you know, why do these people neglect to mention that PDP is a total parasite that hasn’t worked a day in his life.
This is relevant because now he thinks he’s entitled to using someone’s YEARS of hard work, gloss it over with worthless small talk and pass it off as original content, and it’s YouTube’s fault for allowing this in the first place.
Youtube has sucked ever since Google bought it anyway because there is a plethora of cry babies crying because something in the world isn’t exact as they’d like … Lol welcome to earth , where your not the only resident. Youtube and eBay are just an outlet for lazy asses to try to make an easy buck of other people’s content junk ect …. Yeah do things for the passion of it not to just make a quick dollar so you won’t cry when you are finally exposed . I fail to see how Nintendo is the enemy here …. Like someone said above, it’s like if you wrote a song but someone else makes a video using that song and banks of of it. The original writer is entitled to his fair share if not all of the revenue. Feel lucky Nintendo lets you make any money for using their games for you to whine and cry about poo-d-pie or whatever your stupid name is. Peace
They don’t get it because they don’t have a creative or artistic bone in their bodies, they’ll never understand how crappy it is to spend years making something with love and care just to have some parasite to abuse it for revenue in a flagrant violation of copyright laws.
This just shows how pitiful and sad this human being is, being a lazy ass douche in his basement caring about his subscribers, yelling like a pussy and a nihilist instead of getting a real job. Whatever floats your boat, PDP.
In the end, it’s just a BETA program, so I see 3 possible out comes:
1. The Program fails, so Nintendo scrap the idea (whether they’ll let their IPs free to use afterwards I’m not sure, hopefully, but probably not).
2. The Program is successful, so Nintendo keeps it going (mostly likely other companies will follow suit).
3. The Program fails, but Nintendo acts stubborn and keep the program going (I hope this isn’t the outcome).
So being a BETA Program, it’s just Nintendo seeing if the idea will work (which it probably won’t), testing the waters. And besides, before Nintendo wouldn’t even let you use and of their IP games before, now they are (with conditions). Though it seems like a bad idea initially, time will tell if it really is.
This have to be the most interesting topic on this site. Finally, discussions between those that agree and those that disagree. I disagree with Nintendo’s decision but I also am starting to understand as well. I make my own stuff (unrelated to gaming) at times and just knowing that someone out there just takes my work and use it as an ad revenue, would piss me off personally especially without my permission.
That is my own opinion which enables me to see a little on Nintendo’s side however I still disagree overall but would like to understand better regarding both sides.
“I make my own stuff (unrelated to gaming) at times and just knowing that someone out there just takes my work and use it as an ad revenue, would piss me off personally especially without my permission.”
To get the picture right imagine this, it’s not just someone but a lot of people out there is making money off of your work and then when you make a way for the both you to share the profit those people tell you that they should all get the profit because it’s their work. Now tell me how would that make you feel?
If anymore people weep tears of sadness or anger on this issue of these Youtubers not making money off of Nintendo’s hard work, we’ll be looking at the Second World Flood.
I honestly, truly do not understand this program at all. Nintendo wants to take a share of revenue from youtubers who so much as mention a nintendo game in their videos who sign up for it? Is it on top of what youtube already takes? Or does the 30% of nintendo’s share come on top of what youttube already takes?
And whats with this “exclusivity?” You mean if i sign up, it’s either all nintendo games or none whatsoever? I don’t get it. I mean, if the extra dosh is going towards game budgets then i am all for it, but if not….
And if nintendo really is doing this as means to control lets plays, that can’t be good. You can’t be 100% new all the time- you’re going to have to derive your work from someone or something else sooner or later, and if I can’t so much as discuss nintendo, that not only harms the gaming and lets play industry, but it also harms anything in the creative industry, including all entertainers, and all aspiring ones like me, crushing their hopes of using their talents and anything they picked up in college to make a living.
If all publishers go like this and make you pay to so much as commentate or parody……. Krzzzt!! DANGER !!DANGER !! DANGER !! DANGER !! DANGER !!