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Shin’en Say They Personally Pushed The Wii U To The Limits With Fast Racing NEO

We had our first look at Fast Racing NEO earlier this week and it does indeed look glorious. The game runs at a buttery smooth 60fps and displays in 720p. If you saw the footage of the game during E3 then you’ll know that its also extremely fast. Shin’en’s Manfred Linzner believes that they personally pushed the Wii U to its limits with Fast Racing NEO and they’re extremely pleased with the results.

“When starting with the game we had a vision. We wanted to develop the most exciting futuristic racing game on the market. We decided from the beginning it will be 60fps, anything else was not an option for a game that fast. So we knew all GPU and CPU stuff must fit into 16 milliseconds, which isn’t a lot, especially when most games you get compared with are running on consoles with higher specs and with 30fps. We knew from the beginning we can’t develop this vision with techniques everyone else does use. We would need to find different ways to achieve our vision. This was a big motivation because we like working on limits and pushing boundaries.”

“We started experimenting for a year. After a short time we had a working prototype but it ran only at around 15 fps when we enabled all the cool stuff and effects you now see in the game. We had 8k Softshadows, a complete HDR pipeline, physical based rendering, SSAO, more than 10,000 drawcalls, High Quality Motionblur, High Quality Godrays, Cinematic Color Grading, Volumetric lighting and so on. It looked really pretty but was near unplayable.”

“We then needed the rest of the year to find fast enough solutions to handle all these effects or to find new solutions that give the same results. Often we used tricks from the past that are pretty complicated to implement but that deliver the same effect with a fraction of the costs. To make long story short: In the end we were pretty happy seeing finally the game reaching 60fps. When finally playing at 60fps with all bells and whistles for the first time we knew we did the best work in our career. I don’t say anyone else can’t go even further on Wii U, but personally we reached our limits.”

116 thoughts on “Shin’en Say They Personally Pushed The Wii U To The Limits With Fast Racing NEO”

        1. Buy an external hardrive (most work for Wii U but you should always check just in case) you can get a good quality, fast, 500gb hardrive for like 20-50 bucks of Amazon.

  1. The game looks nice. Nintendo should consider collaborating with them to pump out an F-Zero for the 3DS successor or the NX. They have the technical expertise, Nintendo can provide the art, asset designs, and music, while also helping them think of necessary features.

    1. pink0crystal0midbus

      Sure, Nintendo “should” consider it, but they won’t do anything that makes sense. They will just leave F-Zero to rot like always and throw Captain Falcon in Smash Bros, because clearly that is the only game he matters in anymore.

      *Sigh*

      1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

        >>>They need to have a Captain Falcon action game mixed with F-Zero to make it fresh, after this game, F-Zero for the Wii U would be kind of pointless in the eyes of many if it would be about racing only>>>

        1. pink0crystal0midbus

          I would love an open world F-Zero game where they combine both racing and bounty hunting into the game. You walk around and have a main storyline, but can complete bounty hunting quests for other clients and then events will trigger racing events where you have to head down to the registrars office to sign up for a race and then you are transported to the race directly.

          I think it would be absolutely awesome if they made this kind of game. It would revolutionize the franchise and could show Nintendo is serious about really bringing their IPs into the modern era.

          At this point, F-Zero CAN’T just be about racing. It has to be something more. There are too many neo-futuristic racers out there. F-Zero would just be “another one” in the crowd.

          Plus, people are obsessed with open world games.

          1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

            >>>They should combine that bounty hunting action part with the Adam West Batman series since Captain Falcon is kind of goofy sometimes>>>

          2. This…… would work. Not only is it a great idea, it works with the F-Zero setting, and Nintendo would have an open world game. Everyone wins…. so… Nintendo won’t do it.

            1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

              >>>Minus the useless blood violence, degrading of human females and pointless socialising in the game>>>

        2. I disagree with your premises but not your conclusion. To say no one will want F-Zero because Fast Racing Neo is out is just…wrong. How many Need for Speeds are there? Over 20? And how long has that series been around for? About 20 years? That’s approximately one Need for Speed per year, and people are still buying those games. That said, I think SSB has had the unintended side effect of making mascots bigger than their respective game series. Samus is bigger than Metroid. Pit is bigger than Kid Icarus. And this couldn’t be more true for Captain Falcon. He is without a doubt, bigger than F-Zero, and he is now probably known much more as a brawler than a racer. So I agree whole-heartedly. A more C. Falcon centric action/racer hybrid would be awesome. We won’t get it, because we learned more than ever at E3 that Nintendo doesn’t give a shit about its core fans, but it would be awesome nonetheless.

          1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

            >>>Well I didn’t exactly say no one, but if this game turns out to be great and if a F-Zero game comes out, let’s say within a year, and it feels almost the same, I think people would buy it but at a lesser extent than what it probably should have been bought>>>

            >>>Hopefully I would be wrong>>>

          2. I think it depends what Nintendo does with FZero. If they turn it into a board game where the vehicles are toys and none of the original FZero vehicles or character were in it, he may be totally right.

  2. The environments looks damn pretty. But I gotta say that I really need to see more of the game and get the feel of how it plays. Hope they release a demo.

    1. Think Wipeout that just snorted a shit ton of Cocaine before it started driving it’s hovercar at 800 mph… it’s difficult but fun

  3. I'm a Boss Ass Bitch

    This goes to show that the wii u can fucking produce ps4 standard visuals . This shit looks better than starfox. How small is shin’en group of 5 people. While the starfox team has a dozen of people. Sounds tp me that Nintendo isn’t fucking trying anymore.

      1. I'm a Boss Ass Bitch

        Lol art style? Is that your argument. I’m fucking guessing that wink waker look better than wind waker HD because it’s the original “art style”. Fucking pathetic

        1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

          >>>The environments look good enough, I do want though that they improve the ship and building models, they look way out of place compared to the environment>>>

          >>>It’s the same Art-style, it only looks more polished, nothing more>>>

          1. I'm a Boss Ass Bitch

            Silence your fucking self. “The environments look good enough.” I can’t believe you just said that shit. Here’s tip a, stop deep throating Nintendo’s dick. Starfox can look way better than that shit shown at e3. You think half assed graphics are good when they can be so much more. Than sir I have lost all fucking respect for you. Sad.

            1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

              >>>Young fools and your primitive emotions, I care more about the gameplay itself than the graphics, but if they can improve them then fine, even better but it doesn’t do anything to the gameplay at all>>>

              >>>It’s hilarious watching all of you closested graphicwhores coming out of the closet this week ever since that disaster of an event, it proves you never valued gameplay above graphics at all>>>

              1. I'm a Boss Ass Bitch

                Oh use the graphic whores argument on me. Fucking mad because the graphics is as equivalent as gameplay. You have to have a Balance of both. Graphics don’t bother me much but honestly I know shitty graphics when some. And I’m not gonna bit my tough like the rest of the dick suckers that dwell here.

                1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

                  >>>And they should start by improving the ship and building models like I said first, and speaking of balance, maybe most of you young children should balance your emotions before judging your superior>>>

                  1. I'm a Boss Ass Bitch

                    Ugh shut your shit. Your still blinded by fanboyism. I thought you’d wake up by now, but nope your still coasting on Nintendo’s dick like it’s an amusement park ride.

                    1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

                      >>>The only blind ones are the likes of you, there is one thing complaining and bashing where the problems occur, another thing is bashing every single thing like a, once again, a blind child>>>

                      >>>And let’s see who really belongs to the “fanboyism”>>>

                      >>>You bought Amiibos, I didn’t, you bought Smash DLC and I’m sure you thought it was a bit overpriced, I didn’t, you probably buy all DLC for the games you like the minute they put it on the eShop, I don’t, you buy all games when they release, I sometimes do, I sometimes don’t, so you see, I’m not the one supporting everything the second they put it out there>>>

                      1. I'm a Boss Ass Bitch

                        Ok number bitch! I’ve only bought two amiibo. One for splatoon and one for samsh. Number two, I’ve only bought the dl characters for smash and hyrule warriors. Number three, since you want to be all in my fucking business and shit. I’ve bought smash, wind waker, hyrule warriors and splatoon. We’re they day one purchases, fuck no. But I wouldn’t blame people who bought games on the first day. The Wii u has no fucking games lol.

                          1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

                            >>>And to quote my friend Magneto: “That’s why the pawns go first”>>>

                              1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

                                >>>You should feel happy being in the front line dying for the empire>>>

                                  1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

                                    >>>Not even your strongest drugs are enough to reach my normal self>>>

                                    1. I'm a Boss Ass Bitch

                                      Nah drugs will get you where. Maybe I’ll go eat some fucking dirt to reach your potential. That’s all you are anyways. Nothing but fucking dirt. The cow’s toilet.

                                          1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

                                            >>>And still lightyears better than the combined futile so called “power” of the human race combined>>>

                                            1. I'm a Boss Ass Bitch

                                              That’s what your delusional mind thinks. The cardboard upgrades are nothing but garbage in the real world robo ass.

                                                  1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

                                                    >>>I don’t like human filth whether it’s in here or any other realm, I’ll only be truly satisfied once they are all erased from existence>>>

                                                    1. I'm a Boss Ass Bitch

                                                      And yet you stay here loving communication with a human teenager. Oh the fucked up logic you use is so fucking adorable.

                                                      1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

                                                        >>>You’re merley temporary toys until the final days arrive>>>

                                                        1. I'm a Boss Ass Bitch

                                                          So let me guess your doing a pit stop in space chatting in space while you can just *merely whip use all out with one blow. Do it bitch! do it! Right……… you can’t. The cardboard won’t allow you too.

                                                    2. You have to realize that the game’s graphics improve over development. You can’t expect a game that’s fairly early in development to have beautiful graphics unless it’s a pre-rendered cutscene.

                                                      Remember Wonderful 101 or MK8? Graphics improve man.

                                                      1. Yes the games graphics are supposed to improve. So answer this why does W101 graphics look better than Starfox O when Starfox comes out two years later. Hmm maybe it’s not wise for Pikmin 4 to debut on Wii u, it may look like GameCube tittles.

                                                        1. Jtz from Gad tribe

                                                          Wii u is so dumb, stupid and weak the ceiling doesn’t have room for improvements overtime. The visuals tell you that after 2 years. Aint no difference. In fact it’s worse over time not better.

                                                    3. Yeah, I agree. I like gameplay but the whole damn point of Wii U being Nintendo’s more powerful system is to use it. Otherwise what’s the point of making it slightly more powerful than PS3? And it sort of sucks more of the newer Wii U tittles are getting less and less graphical. Why is that? I mean Nano Racing been in R&D for a mintue but Splatoons, grass enviroments rotating all around like Smash Bros. 64 grass areas did when the game was on pause. For that lame visual in 2015 is unacceptable. But Nintendo is stupid so.

                                                1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

                                                  >>>I’m sure you want all Nintendo games, no matter what franchise it is to have graphics similar to Star Wars Battlefront right? That’s all you really want, but what to expect from this graphicswhoring generation of inbreeds, same as the Real Realm, most only care about looks and shallow insignificant traits than the real essence>>>

                                                  1. If he paid for a Wii U with 3 cores and a Power PC 7 and knows it is slightly more powerful than the PS3 he expects the visuals to be slightly more powerful over the PS3’s ás well. Most of these games on Wii U aint even on the Wii’us standards. Wii U has more 2D side games than N64, Gamecube and wii did. It has the least 3D platformers and has the longest uploads. Why is that when we paid for 3Cores and a Power PC7 inside? Don’t get me wrong, people who bought a 2016 Kia Rio doesn’t expect it to be A BMW 7 Series but they expect a engine to get from 0-60 under 10 seconds they paid 14k for the Rio, the new uodate they expect to see and feel the differance.

                                                  2. If he anyone buys a NX, and its more powerful than Wii U, the people expect to see a difference between Wii U and NX tittles. That’s part of the point why consumers upgrade their home consoles. After all PS3 and PS4 have the same games, yet PS4 games look better thats why PS4 games outsell PS3 games even thought the install base of PS3 is bigger. Why? Because they paid for an X86 and 8 cores they want to see the differance.

                                                2. They ain’t trying anymore. Nintendo’s older tittles on Wii U look better than their newer tittles. You are 100% correct. Unless someone wants to be a dumb ass and tell me Pikmin 3 don’t look better than Starfox 0. Hell DKTF visuals look better than Splatoons. And 3D World looks better than Splatoons. And some of the designs do what Smash 64 did which you can’t see the other side of a tree or bush when rotating the screen on a 2015 game.

                                                  1. 1. No one knows how much more powerful the wii u is then the ps3 and 360 unless if you want to go off the old incomplete information
                                                    2. People were still talking about what is on the chip etc etc and last time I checked they still didn’t find out because it was so custom
                                                    3. Now that could have changed and we could know how much stronger the wii I is then the ps3 and 360

                                                    1. Oh please. If it’s all that powerful then why is the NX being brought up when Wii U us only 2 years old? Also if Wii u is so powerful why can’t the OS play DK64 moving characters without the music flickering when swimming at the same time? How come the loading takes long when you turn it on? If it’s so powerful why can’t it handle 4 gamepads. Why after 2 years is there 2D games doing 1080p 60Fps?
                                                      Also why does the Wii U have so many 2D games Kirby, NSMBu, Luigi U, Dktf, Rayman Legends, yoshi. Of its so powerful then why can’t the gamepad recognising the Wii OS WHEN it’s built in? If it’s so powerful then why haven’t we seen updates with features that cause people to notice? So I don’t care anymore how cutom the GPU is its dumb, stupid and weak. Should have thought about adding more than 1gig to the OS back in 2008.

                                                      1. Add Mario Maker another 2D side scroller. Why didn’t they think of Mario Maker being a 3D platformer when the game was in R&D? Weak and stupid perhaps?

                                                    2. Also if it’s so powerful why does the older games on Wii u look better than most new tittles. W101 looks better than Starfox. You’d think after 2 years of Platinum experience with Weak U that Starfox would look at least 3x better than W101. Too stupid and weak. The Wii u is weak, slow and stupid deal with it.

                                              1. They definitely don’t look outta place. One could argue the user interface does due to the colours , font and shapes they’ve chosen, but the ships’ design and glow are meant like that in order to make them feel as edgy/techy as possible.

                                                1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

                                                  >>>Well right now they look out of place to me and I think they could have more details, but I’m sure once I look at the game itself with my own eyes I’ll probably notice the difference between my current judgement and my final one>>>

                                              2. The problem with Star Fox Zero is that its trying to use the polygon artstyle, when it shouldnt. Star Fox for the SNES and Star Fox 64 have that polygon artstyle because they were pushing both systems to the limits, and the polygon shapes were the best those systems could handle. It was smart on Nintendo’s part to squeeze as much as they could out of both the SNES and 64.

                                                Now Star Fox Zero is trying to mimic that polygon look of the older games, when it should really do it’s own thing and have it’s own artstyle. It needed to push the system to it’s limits, and it painfully, obviously is NOT! Star Fox Zero should look WAYYYYYYYYY better than it does… After seeing Mario Kart 8, Xenoblade, and now Fast Racing Neo, it makes Star Fox Zero look like a gamecube game… A mediocre gamecube game at that. I mean did you see the enviroment close up? It looks like a color smear… No texture at all….

                                                I understand Nintendo doesnt want to be like everyone else with photo realism, but they choose the opposite route. Every single game looks cartoony, and honestly that is just as bad, and just as lazy.

                                                1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

                                                  >>>I have to agree to some extent, I really don’t like the effects either, they look so bad>>>

                                        1. Actually, Star Fox Zero team is pretty small as well seeing how Platinum is working on multiple games like Scalebound and Transformers Destruction.

                                        2. Star Fox is still alpha. They say a 2015 release but we know it’ll be delayed to 2016 so they can polish it even more. BTW it looks much better on the tree house streams. I imagine it’s about only 75% done

                                        3. Galactus The Planet Devourer

                                          So true man. I really believe Nintendo is just lost! I’m not denying miyamoto isn’t a legend but all artist should retire when the flame is gone.

                                          There’s no denying that they could use fresh talent to create new ideas and games.

                                              1. You don’t have to shut up for no one. It’s true the Wii U is dumb, slow, stupid and weak. I’m dumb defending a console not worth defending because Dumbtendo’s thought 1gig for gaming was wise in 2008.

                                                1. Whoa, hey, hey, hey now. I wouldn’t say the Wii U is dumb, stupid, and weak. It isn’t as powerful as the other consoles but it does have awesome looking games. Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros for example. So beautiful!

                                                  1. Nintendo Tetrarch Quadramus-NX

                                                    >>>Interesting how a Sonyan defends Nintendo more than some of these so called Pretendos>>>

                                        4. Good point but I don’t think the build we saw of Starfox Zero was a finished build. Miyamoto is known for making sure the games he helps develops are polished and looking great so expect to see a better looking version in an upcoming Direct. Don’t believe me, just take a look at Pikmin 3. That started out as a Wii game and then later moved to the Wii U and the end result ended being a very postitive one but yeah Shi’nen are very talented indeed. I still can’t believe Fast Racing Neo is an indie title, hell it looks better than a majority of games on the Xbox One lol

                                      1. If they called this ‘F-zero: Fast racers’ or something, changed some of the cars designs a little, put some original F-zero characters in this, then redesign some stages to be in space… Cash flow.

                                      2. Galactus The Planet Devourer

                                        Beautiful. It’s stories like these that sell me. Day one buy for me. Outstanding! Love it!
                                        Hope it sells really well and hope they get a physical release.

                                      3. After F-Zero got snubbed again, I’m so buying this. Hope it gets a physical release since I don’t have much space left on my Wii U internal memory.

                                        1. I said this before but, you can get a good quality, fast, 500GB External Hard drive for about 20-50 dollars on Amazon. FYI most work on the Wii U but you should probably check just in case.

                                        1. After what we’ve seen recently, I’m not sure we want to see an F-Zero party game.

                                          I’ll take this. Looks like a PC game I used to play, “Space Haste” – it was beautiful, just like this. I’m completely happy with 720p 60fps. A game at that resolution, able to maintain those FPS, along with all the shading and light reflection tricks, I’m totally happy with any game that meet’s those stats.

                                          This looks like F-Zero meets Pod Racing. Can’t wait!!!

                                        1. Thats why when Wii U was first unveiled in 2012 people were disappointmentbecause NSMBU was what they unveiled yet it cost more than Wii.Becuae Nintendo was too stupid not to had thought about that when this game was in R&D. Just like they are too stupid in not thinking of buying Playtonic. Just like they were too stupid in doing nothing when losing Rare to Microsoft. Now look, all those Rare games will be playable on Xbox One. Nintendo is stupid. They didnt do nothing trying to save Banjo or Kazooie. They don’t do nothing more to bring gamecube games to Wii U.

                                      4. I’d even take a HD remaster of F-Zero GX with added online multi support. But this is looking really good and will aparentley have online multi to boot.

                                        1. I didn’t even know this would have online. If so, damn, it’s going to be awesome. (even without online)

                                          NFSMW is also a gorgeous racing game. EA really used the WiiU’s hardware well, and took much better advantage of the gamepad than Nintendo has. I’m not much of a racing game fan, but I like to crash in pretty HD! :D

                                      5. thenintendoreviewer

                                        I love how the Wii U gets F-Zero in the form of an indie game that’s clearly inspired by F-Zero. I think that’s a big hint, Nintendo.

                                      6. All of Shin’en’s games for the U have been top-notch. The Treehouse play of this game has my utterly pumped. Don’t hate me Nintendo, but this is my most anticipated Wii U game this year.

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