Pokemon site Serebii is reporting that Pokken Tournament on the Wii U will feature a special local battle mode. In this mode Player 1 uses the GamePad screen and Player 2 uses the TV screen. Sadly, it would seem as though you are unable to use two of the dedicated HORI Pokken Tournament Controllers to play the game in local multiplayer.
It has now been confirmed that the game has Local Battle mode. In this mode, Player 1 has to use the Wii U GamePad as their controller perspective on the GamePad indicating that Player 2 uses the TV screen as their perspective. You cannot use 2 of the HORI Pokkén Controllers to play the game in local multiplayer. We’ll bring more details on this as it comes
Thanks, MasterPikachu6
A fighting game features local multiplayer. Color me surprised.
The weird thing is that you’re forced to use the gamepad instead of offering the good old split screen mode as the default option.
I haven’t seen split screen gameplay in a while, so I guess this is fine. I mean, Hyrule Warriors does the same thing: One person plays on the gamepad screen, while the other uses the T.V. So, I guess this is fine. :3
Yeah, I’m not doubting that it works. I just find it funny.
how s split screen better than TWO DEDICATD SCREENS just as fucking stupid as comaring second stick aiming to wii remote mouse RETARDED
When did I say split screen is better?
@Bowler AA no need to be a dick. And typically fighting games take place on one screen where each player controls each character and battle on said one screen. For this game apparently each player needs a view for their own self (never played the Naruto fighting games so I don’t know how they manage local play on that) so instead of split screen it forces one player to use the game pad. This hiders the game (a fighting game mind you, so don’t try to make it seem otherwise) from doing well at a competitive level like other fighting games. Since both players are not able to use a controller that plugs directly into the console to decrease input lag this may be an insue to getting the game at tournaments. Also since there is a seperate screen there can be other hindrances too for streaming.
Most arena/anime fighters split the screen in two vertically. It limits the horizontal vision of each player, but that kind of games rely more on vertical gameplay anyway. I can see why this option wouldn’t work with Pokken, since the mobility seems to be much more horizontal (like in 2D fighters).
And about the game staying competitive, split screen is an overall worse option for that. I cannot think of one single fighting game with split screen multiplayer that even tries to be competitive.
I really wish all U multiplayer titles offered both split screen and dual screen options, but that’s asking too much from anyone, including Nintendo, apparently.
Oh well at least it is multiplayer.
It’s cool it’s Pokemon. Im getting it!!!!!
Split screen is old style for multiplayer the gamepad style is cool using TV and controller so make use of 2 screens only console to give this kind of experience, where other consoles don’t have a screen on the controller so they can’t do it, I really love the wiiu giving new experiences there’s nothing like it, when it comes to console gaming and starfox zero will make use of 2 screens and will be epic.
I have a 70 inch tv in my living room and a 42 inch in my bedroom. I’d much rather play split screen on them then play on the gamepad which is only six inches. 42/2=21. That’s more than 3 times the gamepad screen. And I don’t have to look down and hurt my neck. Or use that horrible controller for fighting games.
This game will have online, right? I know the Arcade version has it so it’s safe to say the Wii U version will as well, right?
I hope so, but I understand your worry considering Nintendo logic.
Wait, so two people playing in the same room can’t both use the same controller? What’s the fucking point of this game then? Anyone who’s ever tried to play Smash with the gamepad knows that it is (while a generally amazing controller) just TERRIBLE for fighting games. I thought the whole point of this gamepad was so that two friends could play on equal and comfortable footing, without one of them being limited by awkward hardware.
I was 100% going to get this game, but if the local multiplayer options stay like this there’s really no reason for me to waste my money. Makes me sad, because I’m a massive Pokemon fan and was looking forward to this immensely.
Actually I really like the gamepad as a controller for smash. I don’t know why it wouldn’t be. And I’m not really a casual player on smash either. I’m actually pretty good.
My bad, didn’t mean to generalise. Of course, some people make the gamepad work. You must be aware though, you’re in the minority.
Minority? Bahaha bitch shut the fuck up. The gamecube controller is not the default control for wii u. Seeing must of everyone who has smash usually plays with the gamepad because it’s the damn default Controller for the system. The “minority” controller audience for smash is those who prefer gamecube controller over the gamepad. You have to buy the gamecube adapter which you can’t really fucking find. Then you’ll have to buy a gamecube controller. These days no one has fucking time for that unless you’re doing it out nostalgic purposes.
I prefer the pro controller.
What do I win?
Deez Nutz!
You clearly know nothing about competitive Smash. I’m not talking about casual players here. I’m talking about people who take the game seriously. Go to literally any Smash tournament and try and find a player using the gamepad. Spoiler – they don’t exist. The few that do lose and are laughed at.
You should have stopped at “they don’t exist”, because I dare anyone to find any competitive player AT ALL who uses the Gamepad…. you can barely find some using the Pro Controller.
Boom roasted.
Well, of course, the number can be big when you count casual players such as yourself.
Once you take a look into competitive Smash 4 you won’t know what is a Gamepad anymore….
And I love the controller, but it’s good to put people in their place with information.
Did this broke down bitch just call me a filthy casual? I know what the fuck the competitive scene looks like. I’ve seen it with my own fucking eyes. MOST of them are nothing but players that are still stuck in the melee era and make love to the fucking gamecube controller. I’ve Tried the gamecube controller and it’s nothing but a inaccurate piece of hot horse shit.
Further proving you have zero idea what you’re talking about. Any competitive player would laugh in your face if you said that. Stop embarrassing yourself.
I’m not just talking about Melee either. Try and find me a notable Smash 4 player who has achieved even a modicum of success with the gamepad. Go on. I’ll wait.
He’s just a kid trying to sound relevant cause he isn’t old enough to have been part of the GameCube era and is jealous. 😋
Oh this is getting juicy !
*grabs popcorn tin!*
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Make sure it’s the triple flavored tin with cheddar and cracker jacks
Here hold this, ima roll a doobie!
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You talk about them laughing in my face. The one’s who laugh are the fucking melee bitches who think melee is superior over any smash game ever. I’ve Been to a tournament. You know what. Why should i have something explain to a bitch like you who probably hasn’t been to a tournament. Only Low bitches such as yourself with laugh at someone just because of they’re choice was the gamepad. Everyone at that last tournament showed it each other great respect. Shaking hands. No one fucking laughed. No one raged. You are the one who doesn’t know what fuck your talking about.
Do you always have to type like an angry teenager, desperate for respect? Try speaking like a normal human being. Swearing in every sentence doesn’t make you ‘grown up’. This persona you put on reeks of childhood insecurity.
It’s not your controller choice that is laughable, it’s your attitude towards it. The idea that the GC controller is only used because of nostalgia, or that it’s inaccurate, or that it’s not the way that the majority of competitive players play – all three are incredibly ignorant and frankly ridiculous.
The GC controller makes many actions substantially easier than their gamepad counterparts. Try doing a quick shorthop aerial when the c stick and and jump button are located under the same thumb. The gamepad is observably less efficient. It hinders the player. That’s why a grand total of zero top Smash 4 players use the gamepad.
Yep bitch. Every single fucking time. Don’t like my speech pattern then don’t fucking reply. I Swear because I fucking can hoe. Hell, I don’t do this shit cause it makes me feel “grown up”. Childhood insecurity? Bitch please get on my level. I love it when you broken down bitches are so fucking inaccurate with your so call theories.
Moving back to this gamecube controller shit. I find it fucking funny when you said that gamecube controller makes shit “easier”. Basically you’ve just said that every competitive player who uses the gamecube controller is nothing but shit without it. And how the fuck is a controller being inaccurate fucking ridiculous? Sure it’s fucking laughably ridiculous on how inaccurate the controls are lol. ” or that it’s not the way the way that majority of competitive players play” Like who in the fuck even said that competitive players played with the gamepad to begin with? I know fucking didn’t say that shit. Scroll your happy ass up a few comments and reread what I Originally stated. And of course there aren’t going to be any top smash players who use the gamepad. If YOU actually knew what hell you were talking about. YOU would that almost 90% of tournaments ban gamepad’s due to fact that two can’t be connected to the system. Come on bitch! Throw some more shit at me.
He’s a git he’s 19-20 fresh out of high school and thinks he’s hard lol I know his type I work with two just like him lol.
This has nothing to do with being at tournaments and everything with not hindering your own performance. Wired controllers have less input lag than wireless ones. If you want to play the best you can, you play with a wired controller, simple as that.
Pretty sure most people use GameCube over gamepad kid. And pretty sure your hoes didn’t make it in smash.
Oh shit we have a dick rider
Lol we have a git who’s a little shit, thinking he’s relevant. Bitch please you sound like all the worst rappers in the world trying to make a hit single and trying to sound hard at the same time. Pussy as little 20 year bitch wait till life fucks you up hahaha. And your smash skills are pathetic lol. And people like melter better cause it’s more offensive based, not defense based so you’re not rewarded for being a bitch and waiting till the other attacks to block and grab. Skill is rewarded in melee not patience of sitting still spamming projectiles and pussy tactics. Regardless, you’d get wrecked in any smash. Too bad online is as trash as you or I might be down to show you up.
melee*
Relevant? Ahaaha. I’ve been watching all of your weak ass comebacks. Those trifling little comments aren’t even worth my fucking effort to even reply to. And bitch I don’t need to fucking try hard. I just do. Unlike your lame ass. And what the fuck are you even talking about? You’ve Cleary shown that you don’t even know what fuck your talking about. Just continue to dick ride. Your pretty fucking good at it. You might even win a fucking Oscar for best dick rider of the year. I will gladly applaud for a trifling bitch such as yourself.
Where in blazes are you getting “dick rider” from fanboydestroyer?
Ugh do you even what dick rider means?
Yes, I know what it means. But how are you getting that word from fanboydestroyer? When did he do anything of the sort of what the definition you posted? Did he say one thing about controllers then changed his opinion later on because of another person’s opinion that was different?
I’m getting dick rider from the acceptance and laughs too hard part of the definition. Take those and use it as a reference to all those comments from above. The bitch doesn’t even know what he’s talking about and doesn’t have a valid input at all. Pointing at the comment the includes the rapper shit. The definition also falls short. Dick rider can also mean someone that “rides” another’s opinion because they’re too fucking stupid or uncreative to come up with their own shit.
Here’s an a definition for the “educated”
A male who is consistently kissing another man’s ass in attempt to gain his acceptance, laughs a little too loud at jokes in an attempt to fit in, seems to mold himself out of another man he admires wanting to be just like another dude so much it gets to the point where it becomes an abnormal obssession that causes his idol to try to avoid him and his idol’s girlfriend to get freaked out by the dick rider’s clinginess.
Oh, Todd just changed his opinion again because he overheard what Steve thought about the subject. He even tries to wear his hair like Steve! What a dick rider!
by sjane November 03, 2005
Apparently cause I don’t dick ride the gamepad…I’m a dick rider lol kids are so cute. And I believe a wise man named Ace Ventura once said: “Fiction can be fun!”
Lol you definitely try way too hard everyone has called you out on it before. And I barely read your responses lol literally responded during my morning shit yesterday and here we are twenty four hours later same spot responding cause that’s all your worth is my morning shits lol. And your skill level is even shittier haha
Clearly the rapper thing went over your highschool failure mind, let me explain. You curse way too much and think you’re a badass or something like a lot of rappers who have nothing to really say. And when did I change my opinion dick rider extraordinaire?
Over 3 million Smash 4 games been sold and you trying to say most people use GameCube controller. That is very inaccurate. It doesn’t matter if someone is competitive or not. I like the Gamepad for all my competitive games. I don’t even like touching the PS controller or Xbox controller but can tolerate the Xbox controller since it is bigger. Gamecube controller is never use by me in Smash. Yes I’m just one person but that my choice. A great player can play with any controller.
“A great player can play with any controller”
True, but one particular person (assuming he’s accustomed to the ergonomics of every kind of controller) will play better with a GameCube controller than with a Pro, Classic or Gamepad. That’s the way inputs work and the reason why the GameCube controller is the predominant option in tournaments, people want to play optimally if they can.
Ok that many games were sold…and how long were GameCube adapters sold out cause of people buying them? So yea your point is actually not proving anything.
It wasn’t 3 million Gamecube adapters sold. Just because something sell out doesn’t mean a large amount sold. Majority smash bros 4 players are not using Gamecube controllers. People like the Gamecube controllers and that is fine but people like wii u pro controller and gamepad as well. It is options and choice. I play all my competitive fighting games with gamepad. Injustice, tekken, and smash.
I bet you would play better with a more ergonomic controller. And yes that many may be using gamepads (I still doubt that cause one person I know uses it), how many of those are just kids? Most adults are gamecubing.
No I wouldnt. GameCube and Playstation controllers are too small for me. For gamecube I used the wavebird.
>>>Jester right?>>>
Are you asking if I’m jester? No but I haven’t seen him or heroponluigi or a few others now that you mention it.
>>>I was suspecting mostly because your King K Rool demands>>>
>>>Civilians are those who can’t use the gamepad as good as the GCN controller>>>
>>>I use the gamepad 100% on all games and it’s as easy as using the GCN and if we are the minority then these so called “pros” are nothing because they can’t play with the gamepad just as good, not to mention that all of them are same move spammers making me superior since I’m very good WITH style>>>
>>>My logic is undeniable>>>
Agreed but your logic is nowhere near fucking undeniable.
Just by design, you can’t have the same level of play with the gamepad than with the GC controller. You will always be slightly better with the GC controller just because of the reduced input lag.
Besides, picking a sub-optimal choice in the competitive scene is regarded as a lack of respect for your adversary. By picking the worst choice of the two, you’re just insulting the other player because it doesn’t look like you’re taking him seriously.
Other than that, it’s a very scrubby logic you’re following there. The same happens when talking about tiers. “Oh, the top players are just good because they pick top-tier characters. If they don’t pick a normal character it’s because they’re not good enough to win as them”. This kind of mentality is very spread among low-tier players as a way to avoid blaming themselves for losing. You lost playing Samus to someone playing Mario? It’s not your fault, the character is just better. The other guy wasn’t that good, there’s no way he could defeat you were he using Samus. Exact same thing with the controller. Either you play competitively the best you can, or you’re not playing competitively. That’s undeniable logic.
Mario should always wreck Samus in my eyes. Maybe not zero suit but definitely regular. If he’s considered lower than her I find that hard to believe lol Samus has always been trash to me in smash.
No, Mario is actually in the top tiers and Samus is on one of the bottom ones. That’s why I picked them as examples.
Ahh. Mario always seemed like middle ground to me but been using him since 64.
He used to be, but the recent patches skyrocketed him to the top.
I stopped paying attention to patches, they aren’t gonna change who I use anyway lol but what got boosted for him?
GameCube also fits in our hands much better. They just wanna be cool and different for the sake of being different. I believe SLC Punk has a great scene at the end about this behavior where a punk gets called out by some preppy chick for dressing like a punk to fit in with the other punks in order to not conform and thus conforming to something else. Yea anyway gamepad is decent but it’s far too clunky for fighters and face it, GameCube has all the buttons in the right place and the shapes make it simple to know where your finger is at all times. The controller was probably made with melee in mind. But let the kids play what they want. Let them have their fun however they want.
Yeah, it’s like that controller was designed with Smash in mind, as you say. I’m not that used to it anymore (mine broke down ages ago), but I think I’ll probably play better after some sparring sessions if I had a new one.
True lol i got new smash ones. I hate the buttons on the pro controller and gamepad they feel mushy and hurt my thumbs after a little while whereas I can play on GameCube all day no pains. Getting old lol.
SLC Punk reference FTW. This guy just won the whole thread. Thank you.
Haha
“I don’t suck! You’re just using the better character/controller/blah blah blah! You are the one that sucks!” Excuses, excuses.
Exactly. If you lost, you lost, period. Nothing’s stoping anyone from buying the optimal controller and picking a top tier character. If people want to handicap themselves, they have only themselves to blame.
I’m willing to bet they tried to use two of them at once and for one reason or another it didn’t work out during development. It could be for any number of reasons, which sucks, cause we dunno what those reasons are.
RIP competitive play
SPLIT SCREEN IS AWFUL AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN AWFUL
IM FAST GETTINGTIRED OF NECKBEARDS-HYPSTERS-AND BRODUDES
WII REMOTE FARTS IN SECOND ANALOG STICKS MOUTH FACT TWIN STICK FPS PLAYERS ARE DUMB ASS BRODUDES
NOW THE SAME FUCKING RETSRDED MORONS ARE CALLING AWFUL LOOKING SQISHED UP RETARDED DEFORMED HORRIBKE SPLIT SCREEN BETTER THAN TWO ACTUAL 16BY9 SCREEN’S ONE VOR EACH PLAYER
YOU SONY SHILLS ARE GETTING BEYOND A JOKE NOW SECOND ANALOG STICK IS OLD AND GAY AS FUCK
WII REMOTE AND GYRO FART IN ITS THROAT,DUAL SCREEN MULTI PLAYER AGAIN NINTENDO ONLY DUMPS IN TE OPEN MOUTH OF SPLIT SCREEN
SICK OF MS AND SONY FANS CALOING EVERY FANTASTIC EVOLUTION IN GAMING A GIMMICK
YOUR FUCKING RETARDED
“You cannot use 2 of the HORI Pokkén Controllers to play the game in local multiplayer.”
Is it that hard to split screen so that both players are free to use whatever controller but the gamepad?
Really?
That was not a reply towards you, my bad.
Im impressed uts easier for a console to handle split screen than operating totally 2 different screens and different enviroments. Thats impressive for a supposed weak console.
“You cannot use 2 of the HORI Pokkén Controllers to play the game in local multiplayer.”
Is it that hard to split screen so that both players are free to use whatever controller but the gamepad?
Really?
so each player can clearly view the other players screen
how is gamepad not a good fighter control your using a pad and looking at a full screen
the other dudes using a pad and using a full screen NO SQISHY SCREEN CRAP
and why would a 3d fighter not be good with a stick and buttons witch every pad uses including the gamepad
It’s a fighting game you fucking fanboy retard. There is absolutely no benefit to having your own screen and no advantage from seeing your opponent you fucking reject lol. And you’re obviously the reject Deleted that just spouts out a bunch of bull shit about wii remotes being the best thing ever and games being stuck on joysticks and such.
Why? Why is that a thing? Games like that don’t need to be seen by more than one perspective, just make a camera that works like the ones on Naruto UNS and probably every other similar 3D fighter ever…. this is bs.
Hmm that interests me. The only other titles with dual screen use for multiplayer are COD and Sonic Boom.
I think this’ll be the first Nintendo title that didn’t split screen? Correct me if I’m wrong.
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Sorry for posting this again but I need the info…
Unrelated note, I’m heading to England and Denmark this week, and was wondering where I could track down a Classic Mario, Shulk, and NES Amiibo? I can’t find those here in the US. Thanks if anyone has any tips.
Oh and Hyrule Warriors does dual screen, tho it does hiccup at times due to all the action. DUH!
I think you’re gonna miss out on those Amiibo by leaving the US; Gamestop suddenly got tons of Shulk and other Amiibo like Falcon, Lucario and NES Mario. I don’t know how long it’ll last or why, but it seems like some kind of in-store special.
Great…. Perfect timing. Lol. Thanks
Shulk was on Amazon last I check which was the week before Christmas.
… Like the other guy, why is split screen even a thing in a traditional fighting game? Seriously. By the way, this doesn’t effect the ability to use two Wii U Pro Controllers at the same time, does it? If so, what a bunch of bullshit!
>>>I’ve never even seen a fighting game that has split screen during my time in the wars and I would destroy such abomination>>>
Yea completely uncessary and no advantage from seeing your opponents screen.
Cause Nintendo!
While some people bitchung. I think its impressive a weak ass console Weak CPU can handle two different screens from a tv or controller? That’s amazing when reading the specs from.paper.
i gues there’s no online.
yes there is online… they didn’t announce this yet for the Wii U
Wasn’t interested anyway. I hope Magikarp makes it in though.
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