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DICE Says Frostbite Engine Isn’t Supported On Wii U

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Patrick Bach, the executive producer on Battlefield 4, has explained to Eurogamer exactly why the promising Battlefield 4 won’t be coming to Wii U. Bach says the main reason is that the Frostbite Engine isn’t supported on Wii U. This should come as some concern as the majority of EA’s upcoming games are based on the Frostbite engine. Here’s what Bach says.

“The biggest problem we have right now is we don’t want to back down from what we see as our low spec machines. We right now don’t have support for the Wii U in the Frostbite engine. The reason for that is it takes development time. What should we focus on to create the best possible Battlefield experience? We are now focused on PC and the current-gen platforms, and then there might be other platforms in the future that we can’t talk about…”

153 comments

    1. Spec wise it would be fine to run the engine. The engine just isn’t compatible with Wii U hardware as of yet. They would just have to modify the engine to run on the machine so that all the frostbyte engine games could run on it. Of course this wouldn’t be a small undertaking but they are going to have to modify it for the other next gen consoles so it sounds like bs again.

      1. Those thing that ea say are lies the engine is up and running already no company is that stupid to say that they put millions on a engine to later say is not done on 1 of the consoles cause they will lose money.

      2. Except if they’re expecting sales to be so low that it won’t be worth their time and resources to make the engine compatible with that console.

      3. It dosnt matter if sales are low they will be lower on ps4 has it actualy has out cero consoles and when a new console launch the industry resets. What was succesfull in this one dosnt mean it will be on this. One thing is to say that they spect the sells to be low but saying the engine dosnt run on wiiu is like shoting at the same time in a duel a both hitting in the heart.

      4. it’s pretty obvious no one wants to make games for the wii u. it’s pretty obvious that once next gen consoles arrive the most likely combination for most third parties will be ps4/nextbox/pc. that’s it, there’s no more resources for an extra console. i’m getting used to the idea that once again, nintendo will be left alone.

      5. Right, because “No one” equals everyone just because EA says no.
        EA has selfish, bitter reasons for not putting in effort on the Wii U.
        Nintendo gave them the no-go when they wanted Origin for their exclusive online stuff, and EA hasn’t gotten over that “insult”.

      6. ehhh no its not lol. porting an engine to another platform takes a bit. especially one like frostbite. i have a feeling it’s going to be the same thing with nextbox and ps4 seeing as they’ll start out with a low install base as well. people need to realize developing on a new platform doesn’t happen like magic, it takes time to get used to. and besides, the consoles versions of bf games are always awful in comparison to the pc version, not just visuals but gameplay as well. i wouldn’t trust dice porting it over to the wii u or any new platform as of right now.

      7. But it cost more to do it later than do it at the same time has the other consoles.

      8. Agreed, but poring engines is not as involved as you would think. Small teams can do a great job at porting using minimal resources($)

      9. the ps4 and nextbox have a PC architecture (x86) , which basically means they can just port the PC version of the game very easily. so they don’t need to do that much work for a ps4/720 version , the wii u however doesnt share the same architecture… sure its similar hardware but devs wouldnt put alot of time in a wii u port.

      10. Implying it’s about spec, saying the Wii U is low when it’s more powerful than the 360 and PS3. Typical EA drivel. He then tried to shift it to blame it on “different peripheral”, but come on.

        The Nintendo/EA feud is getting ridiculous

      1. “The biggest problem we have right now is we don’t want to back down from what we see as our low spec machines. We right now don’t have support for the Wii U in the Frostbite engine”

        This basically says it’s been optimized for low spec machines (PS3,360) and they haven’t even tried it on wiiu.

        This has yet again been taken out of context and misinterpreted. They could get it to look A LOT better than it does on PS3 and 360 on the wiiu , what they’re saying is they’re making it for those low spec mahcines and don’t want to do the Wiiu aswell which would be somewhere in between Next and current gen.

      2. Patrick Bach: We could probably make a Wii U game in theory. But to make the most out of the Wii U, that’s a different game because of the different peripherals. We want to utilise all the power of each console.

        Eurogamer: Are you saying it’s not about the power of the Wii U itself, rather, it’s about the controller?

        Patrick Bach: It’s everything. We could potentially make a Battlefield port for the Vita. But what would that game be? Is it something we could scale down from what you saw in the gameplay video, or would it have to be a complete redesign of the whole game?

        It’s about, where do you put your focus? And the Wii U is not a part of our focus right now

        This guy from Dice is saying a load of missleading and confusing BS , just like the cunts from Metro last light did aswell. Trying his hardest to not be straight forward to justify his choice. Sorry but we all know the Wiiu is more capable than PS3 , 360 so you have no excuse except maybe you were scared to use the gamepad and scared to put your game on an extra platform. And you couldnt be bothered optimizing your game for Wiiu so it looks as good as it should and not just a lazy port where it suffers due to being 100% xbox 360 code..

      3. Dude Wii U is a junk the CPU is weaker than PS3/360 this machines are 6 7 years old and still are better than your Wii U but you don’t need powerful machine to play Mario and Zelda

      4. False, the CPU structure on the Wii U is different than that of the PS3. It’s actually coming close to the PS4’s CPU. Research it. The Graphics Card beats the PS3 by a MILE and the RAM is higher too. It’s really ignorant to say that the Wii U is weaker than your PS3, it’s either an act of idiocy and jealousy, or an act of not researching.

      5. Ignore those people. They catch onto the ‘facts’ that others throw, and generalise until it’s completely out of perspective. The WiiU CPU has a slower clock speed than the PS3 and 360, but much larger amounts of actual transfer each cycle.

        Trolls just generalise that ONE fact to ‘WiiU is WEAKER THAN PS360’.

        So ignore them.

      6. All right I’ll translate it too you…

        “The biggest problem we have right now is we don’t want to back down from what we see as our low spec machines. (360 and PS3. Low specs compared to the WiiU.) We right now don’t have support for the Wii U in the Frostbite engine. The reason for that is it takes development time. (It’s higher and and would need more money).

      7. Here is a cookie for you , sir. And they were butthurt. All they had to say is , Wiiu is obviously powerfull enough that’s why Criterion has just made a PC game run on Wiiu , but we’re punk ass bitches scared of doing new things.

    2. Frost bite Engine can be be coded for the Wii U. It now currently runs on last gen Xbox360 and PS3, I had to explain that before Americans that mostly don’t get English comprehension showed up!

      ATTENTION!

      1. For being named after a great scientist you inteligence is kind of low. The engine already runs on wiiu it makes no sence to have years making a engine and leave compatibility out of 1 of the consoles to do it latter.

    3. EA in 2011 – “Imagine a shooter like Battlefield, with the jaw dropping graphics and smooth character animation of the Frostbite engine, brought to you, on a Nintendo system on that breakthrough controller.”

      EA now – “We right now don’t have support for the Wii U in the Frostbite engine.”

      EA caught with their pants down, again.

      1. Steam = great service and game selection

        EA’s Origin = faulty net software tool

        Today they have actually recanted yesterday’s absurd excuse. Wait until a better developer Capcom releases Monster hunter 4 on the Wii U, someone will be begging nintendo to let their games play on the Wii U.

      2. >Better Developer
        >Capcom

        I can’t stop laughing. Capcom is just as bad as EA.

      3. This^ . They , actually didn’t say it won’t run on Wiiu at all. They said they have their hands full with low spec machines that they don’t want to back down from (ps3 , 360) .

  1. So basically he’s considering Wii U as “last-gen”…
    What the hell happened to the “partnership” they announced last E3 2011? They even showed off BF and mentioned the Frostbyte Engine there. :\

    1. The article above doesn’t make it clear. That was a reference to the original Frostbite engine. It seems the new one (used in Battlefield 4) is the one that is incompatible.

      1. i think they meant frostbite 2 which was the engine for battlefield 3. battlefield 4 runs on frostbite 3. so frostbite 2 is comp. with wii u and frostbite 3 isnt…. makes less sense…. anyway! what im hoping for is the fox engine. :D i think i fell inlove with it…. now to finish college so i can get a job to buy a wii u :D 3 more year.s :D

      2. From the article it intrinsically asserts that frostbite 3 has not yet been implemented for next generation consoles. Wii U does not have frost bite 2 which the PS3 and Xbox360 old ass gen consoles are running. He states that the will need to code frostbite 3 for the Wii U. Simplified enough now :).

    2. I didn’t get that at all from reading the post. He just said the engine isn’t compatible with the Wii U at the moment. Game engines can be modified to run on pretty much anything as long as the minimum specs for the required engine are met. They are going to have to modify the engine to run sony and MS new systems so they could do it for the Wii U as well. Since it is their own engine and tech they would be able to do it.

    3. Did you even read the text? He said the PS360 are low specs, he won’t support WiiU because it takes money and time to port the engine to it.

  2. basically we are too lazy to go to next gen tech and want to make games for systems that will be obsolete in 10 months? nice job ea no wonder your CEO quit!

    1. Remember two things, 1: The other next-gen systems where most of EA’s sales would come from haven’t come out yet. 2: Sales of the Wii U haven’t been impressive, trying to re-work the engine would be a waste of time and resources considering how many sales they might get.

      1. As much as I don’t want to agree, you have stated it best. Wii U is only now picking up sales again due to a Japanese, and two british or canadian developers making great games for it.

      2. Actually no, most of EA’s sales in the short term will come from the PS3, Xbox 360, and PC. In the long run, the PS4 and Xbox 720. The PS4 and Xbox 720 have yet to sell one console, so using sales as a scapegoat is invalid. We don’t know how those console will sell,

        If Nintendo decided to go with Origin as their digital store front, you bet your ass Battlefield 4 would be on the Wii U. And all this bullshit about sales of the Wii U being bad, so the game isn’t coming to the system, BS would be gone

    2. Actually its confirmed for the ps4 so they arent just working on the ps3xbox360 EA and D.I.C.E. are horrible liers.
      But above they are Basically Saying the wii u is nextgen.
      They just want to make sure the “low spec” machines(ps3 and xbox360) run the game good with no glitches or anything.
      Thats what I got from that statement.

  3. So it runs on current gen machines? Which means it can run on WiiU they simply don’t want to is more or less what he’s saying LoL.

    1. Since the Wii U is from the 8th gen it is a current gen system while the PS3 and the XBOX 360 are last gen. That means they are focusing on the PC, the PS4 and the third generation Xbox. The reason why the Wii U isn’t supported by that engine is obvious but every Nintendo fanboy on this site stays in denial and doesn’t want to admit that the Wii U is too weak for that game.

      1. You’re being ridiculous. Frostbite is supported on the fricking X360, which is far less powerful than the WiiU. The difference is the architecture, which requires more adapting effort than that of a PC or a PS4 (both the same, by the way). And DICE are not willing to make that effort because the WiiU market is not big enough YET.

        They’ll change sides in a while, like the whores they are.

      2. Idiot, the Wii U runs the unreal engine 4, the unity engine 4, may I add with direct X11 properties. NEED FOR SPEED MOST WANTED has PC level mechanics and graphics the PS3 and Xbox360 cannot even muster. You are the fanboy of probably xbox or it’s graduate level PC. Always come to mynintendonews with facts or as I have we shall shut your trolling down.

      3. You’re calling someone a fanboy? Really? and an idiot? Holy shit man.

      4. Are you serious?
        The wii u is confirmed to run all this gen engines(this gen as in ps4, nextbox) so dont really know Where you get your info or is that just your opinion?

  4. I don’t think this is a comment on the power of the Wii U, more the fact that they can’t be assed to make the engine compatible with the Wii U’s SDK.

    1. Actually, it is a comment on the power of the Wii U. They mention the PS360 being low specs compared to the Wii U so that’s actually quite refreshing.

      1. ^+1 I kno finally people can stop Saying the wii u is underpowered.
        Surprising this came from a EA company outta all of them.(even tho tons of developers have said it before)
        Proof there it is, wii u is this gen which is the ps4 nextbox and wii u gen.

  5. ” PC and the current-gen platforms”

    so that’s why is announced in ps4? because is last gen? or he meant the “gen” Wii U is right now? either way they can’t hide their childish hate

    1. That is because PS4 and PC architecture are very similar to almost being the same. Finally sony did something right. Am giving credit where it is due. Though the Wii U has architecture similar to the 360 but more powerful easy to code for and uses 1/2 the wattage of the PS3 and Xbox360, the Wii U is a marvel.

  6. The title is misleading. He says they haven’t implemented the Frostbite engine on the WiiU (as in, they’re too lazy to make it work on the WiiU’s architecture), not that it doesn’t work on it.

    I see no reason why it couldn’t work on the WiiU, since it works on the Xbox 360 and PS3.

    DICE is lazy because the WiiU hasn’t sold enough copies yet, that’s all. In a year, Frostbite will magically be revealed to run on the WiiU.

    1. Its not about being lazy….
      Its about pure hatred.
      Western 3rd parties along with konami & kojima HATES nintendo !!!!
      Duh !! It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out.

      1. Well it’s quite about the same, actually. Not making the effort to adapt their tool to the Nintendo machine is a quite hateful decision, yes.

        Their hatred for Nintendo makes them lazy about Nintendo’s system, yes.

      2. More like American third party developers. Here is hoping EA goes the way of the Dodo while it’s employees get scooped up by Retro and WB studios.

    2. You’re right. When you say “can’t” you mean it’s impossible. For example: “Ea says cats can’t fly” is not the same as saying “Ea says cats have not been genetically altered to be able to fly yet, but we can do it if we really want to.”
      As you correctly said, sir, it’s a matter of money.

      1. Unfortunately I don’t have Facebook because I hate it…

        But others can do it…

      2. More power to you, I deactivated my account last week. Shit fucking sucks. Shit ton of people wanting to stick their noses in my personal life.

  7. Uh huh, keep telling yourself that EA. After brutally murdering SimCity, I officially have no reason to support anything that EA does from here on out.

      1. That’s not the point, I understand that server problems can be fixed over time. The problem is how stupidly simple and lacking this game is compared to past iterations. And how forced you are to play this game “multiplayer.” This game takes more steps backwards then it does forward.

  8. Frost bite Engine can be be coded for the Wii U. It now currently runs on last gen Xbox360 and PS3, I had to explain that before Americans that mostly don’t get English comprehension showed up!

    ATTENTION!

    1. The problem here is that most likely the engine is already being done whit wiiu in mind look at the dead island developers there publishers said that the game was not coming cause they need to be recoded for wiiu but the truth was the engine works, and the developers dont want if in the future some license there engine to back down cause they may think it dosnt work for multy plats.

      1. The WiiU can’t be that different considering what Criterion did with NFSMW.

    1. Nintendo commander our wise troops turned out to explain this debacle before trolls run away with false logic. More posters like these and trolls fanboys of nintendo Sony and microsoft shall learn true gaming as well.

      1. Or shall be sent to our camps to be Nintendofied as a first step to true gaming…

      2. You both are by far the saddest individuals on the face of the earth.

  9. Let’s clear something up here. Wii U is the same generation of home console as the new Sony PS4 and new xbox not yet announced.
    Just the same as the Wii was in the same generation as the 360 and PS3, Gamecube = PS2 = Xbox.
    The generation of the console has nothing to do with what specs it has. It’s the timeline for release and secondary the iteration of the console it’s self.
    Look up generation and learn something

  10. That pretty much means we’ll never see another EA game on Wii U. Not even the next NFS if that game uses this engine. But Criterion said we’ll get it. It looks like someone is lying…
    Either way, fuck EA for all that DRM/micro-transactions bullshit. We’re better off without them.

    1. Criterion is not owned by ea is 1 of ea partners even crytek is anoyed that crisis 3 did not made it to wiiu.

    2. I realize how things look so bleak for Nintendo as of late, but if you’ve been carefully reading news, it’s not that developers aren’t willing to develop games for the Wii U. Developers have come out and clearly stated how much they love the console and the cost [to develop]. The hardware runs smoothly and more so than the previous generation; thankfully that ridiculous accusation is slowly dying as developers defend Nintendo.

      Publishers are the problem with EA leading the pack. Regardless of what is rumored to be the reason for a business deal turned sour, it most certainly did happen and thus we have games being pulled or not being developed; Crytek and DICE being the most significant these past few months.

      Yes it hurts that EA is being childish and us gamers suffer, but it isn’t the end of the console. Other publishers proudly stand by Nintendo which, in my opinion, makes EA look rather stupid.

      Assuming this console will be successful, EA will give in eventually if they wish to make money. After all, they are replacing the CEO and are hemorrhaging money at the moment despite being the world’s largest video game publisher. I have my fingers crossed that they will do what is right in the future, but if they don’t they won’t get my money.

    1. I see what you did there. Maybe Reggie said DRM is faulty and now even EA is acknowledging lol?

  11. I can live without EA games, them half assing Wii U support makes me steer clear of EA on pc side too.

  12. Go to hell EA
    cram the ps4 and xbox 720 far up your ass!

    The only reason you even mattered in the first place is to ensure the Wii U stays popular and has games developed on it by better game studios in the first place! Your bitch ass was just a filler company, which will most likely get filled by a better and more competent studio than you!

    Really, who wants Battlefield 9 DLC edition shitting up the Wii U any fucking ways??

    I bought my Wii U for Nintendo games, I couldn’t fucking care less about EA’s FrOsTbItE engine… whoodedoo kalamazoo! nobody cares either

    1. I can’t find any evidence of this,,,

      Do you have any? or did you get confused by their name “Frozenbyte”?…

  13. Let me translate:

    DICE says they’re too fucking lazy to adopt the Frostbite engine into the Wii U because it might not make them enough money.

  14. Excuses, excuses. Going by what he is saying, we shouldn’t see Battlefield 4 on the PS4 or 720 either. It will be even more time consuming, expensive, and difficult to adapt Frostbite to those consoles. If Battlefield 4 is coming out for either the PS4 or 720 then everything he said is 100% bull**** an this is just another example of the ‘Code-Red’ against Nintendo.

    At this point I wish that EA would just go away. Their mere presence offends me.

      1. Then what he is saying is BS. Being ‘similar’ and being ‘the same’ are too different things. The PS4 still has it’s own custom design even if the CPU is on a x86 architecture. It will take time and money to adjust Frostbite so that it runs smoothly on the PS4 and utilizes the hardware properly and to it’s maximum efficiency. It’ll be either to deal with than the Cell Processor was, but it’s comparable to saying that running a 10k up-hill is easy compared to running a 10k up-hill with a moose on your back.

        It’s still hard to run a 10k uphill, just as it still won’t be a picnic converting new gaming engines to each specific console. So they have absolutely NO excuse for not bringing it to the Wii U for the reason the ‘claim’. Not saying that there isn’t a reason (we know the REAL reason,) but just saying the reason that they claim is nothing but spin. If they come right out and say that Frostbite 2 is gonna be running on every console BUT the Wii U, they would be exposed. They’ve already PUBLICLY gone on record to say that is does. They can’t erase history.

        The PowerPC750 architecture which the Wii U has for it’s CPU is not only common, but been around for over a decade. Granted, it has been customized to run similar to a Power7, but the architecture is far from difficult to deal with I’m sure Electronic Arts has touched a PowerPC750 CPU at some point in the past decade.

        No excuse…………

        No excuse.

  15. You nintendo fanboys are so fuckin stuck on your selves like sony and microsoft fagboys. The wii u is a next gen system which means tgey frost bite engine needs to be coded to run on the system. Who who knows maybe they will code the egine and release the game later when tge current gen game comes out. Why are u damn nintenerds so fuckin bias agnst every damn developer. I’m sure if dice release battlefield 4 on wii u with out the proper code it will end up like madden 13 did. So fuck you stupid fags.

    1. It is EA, you are always suspicious. There is a reason why they won the golden poop award 2011 and are nominated again..

  16. If you people don’t care about EA’s game then why are you so butthurt amd try to justify any “reap” reason why it’s not coming to the KrückeU.

    Ihr seid ein Haifen gelb-grün frustriert verbitterte vollspasten dessen maroden Halsblasen zum beryten gefüllt sind. Wir hingegen sind 100% moderne scglaugamer welche sich nicht vom gierig gelben geldaffen abzocken lassen

    1. Completely agreed with the first part.
      And… Auf deutsch wirst du hier nicht weit kommen. (:

  17. I think they are waiting to see how BF4 runs and sell on this Gen consoles; then they will move it to next-gen including WiiU which is more capable than ps3/360, so.. Let’s just wait January 2014, and they’ll announced WiiU/PS4/nextbox version of BF4. Everything is scalable :)

  18. “We’re too damn lazy and Dont care about Nintendo. F*** You guys”

    is what I heard. idk about you guys… And literally just because of this article and them saying that, I refuse to get this game. Even though Battlefield, for me anyway, are the only shooters worth playing.

  19. Excuses Excuses ! it’s one after another with these guys i mean i don’t really play BF anyways but honestly when wonderful 101,wind waker hd,pikimin 3, new mario kart, new 3d mario, bayonetta 2, possibly smash bros.,and whatever else nintendo has up their sleeves for the next couple of big game conventions start to come out people will buy wii u’s more and once that happens it’ll get some more support from third parties at this point in time besides needing more console sales there is no reason not to

  20. who the fuck even plays battlefield on a console? not such a big loss for the wii u but its sad seeing nintendo doing nothing while 3rd parties are skipping the wii u … nintendo should atleast go up to them and work it out , they have shit tons of money. nintendo been sucking ever since the gamecube!

    1. WIIU IS MORE SUITED TO FPS AND BATTLEFIELD THAN ANY OTHER SYSTEM DROP THE PC FANBOY NONSENSE

      GAMEPAD OFFERS CORE GAMING AND SECOND TACTICAL SCREEN INNOVATIONS A 10000 TIMES BETTER THAN ANY PC

      AND IT WOULD RUN BF4 AT 60 FRAMES 720P JUST LIKE PS4 WOULD

      DROP THE DERP

  21. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD KINDLY LEAVE YOUR 11 YEAR OLD EMOTIONS AT THE FUCKING DOOR

    ITS ANTI NINTENDOISM IT HAS FUCKING NOTHING TO DO WITH WIIUS HORSE POWER

    JESUS H CHRIST ITS EA BEING UNPROFITABLE DOUCHBAGS AS NINTENDO LICKED THEM SILLY FOR THE PAST 7 YEARS

    DIS-RUR-TION DO YOU EVEN HAVE A BRAIN

    EA GAMES ARE NICKLE AND DIME SHITE GAME SCUM WHAT ELSE DID YOU EXPECT

    DICE THE ENGINE ISNT ON WIIU BECAUSE YOU DIDNT PUT IT THERE YOU FUCKING RETARDED SCUM

    WIIU IS CLOSER TO PS4 THAN PS3 IN POWER AND IT DESTROYS PS4 AS AGAMING DEVICE AND GAMEPAD AND WII REMOTE BLOW AWAY DUALSHOCK 4 AT TACTILE CORE GAMING AND FPS

    SO ASK YOUR SELF THE QUESTION “””””””””””””””””””””WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS””””””

  22. EXAMPLE OF HOW FUCKING DUMB WIIU HATERS ARE

    BF4 PS4 REPAIR A TANK OH LOOK IM A RETARD WITH A GRINDER JUST MOVING A ANALOG STICK BACK AND FORTH

    REPAIR TANK GAMEPAD OR WII REMOTE OH LOOK IM ACTUALLY REPAIRING A TANK

    THAT IN ITS SELF IS ONE BAD ASS NEXT GEN ABILITY GAMES INDUSTRY DOESNT WANT TO MAKE NEXT GEN GAMES IT WANTS TO MAKE PS1 AND PS2 GAMES WITH PS4 WAKE UP YOU BRAINLESS DOUCHBAGS

  23. nintendo took the whole industry for its bitch it destroyed the playstation brand it SINGLE HANDEDLY put sony close bankruptcy

    but bf4 isnt coming to wiiu because of a million other MADE UP REASONS

    you people need a slap

  24. DICE WE AINT YOUR FREIND WE DONT LIKE YOU

    LOOK A COMPANY ACTING LIKE A SCHOOL BULLY TO A COMPANY THAT WOULD BREAK ITS NECK WITH ONE HAND

    SMELL YOUR OWN FARTS DICE EA YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT

  25. OH DONT FORGET GUYS ITS ACCORDING TO EA THE 4TH GENERATION PS1234

    EA SHUT THE FUCK UP ITS THE 8TH GENERATION THE GAMING BIBLE IS NINTENDO NOT SONY YOU GENERIC SHIT GAME MAKING SCUM

  26. What a load of bullshit. Won’t work on Wii U, but work on PS3 & Xbox 360. That is how you can tell it’s a bullshit excuse. Not only that but this game getting released on the PS4 (Which does not even have a install base) as it has not been released. I’ll be getting this for PC anyway, but meh.

  27. Why do you people get so upset about EA not bringing games to the WiiU if you hate them and their games anyway ? You’re nothing but a pathetic bunch of idiots, seriously.

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