Oh yes! Diddy Kong is no longer the powerhouse that he used to be in Super Smash Bros thanks to a recent patch. Everyone got a little too frustrated when they found out that one of their opponents in online matches was playing as Donkey Kong’s sidekick, as he was a little too overpowered compared to the rest of the fighters. Anyway, you should all sleep easy now he has been nerfed.
Uair nerfed from 8% -> 6%, knockback reduced. CONFIRMED
Fair nerfed from 12%/10% -> 10%/8%, knockback reduced. CONFIRMED
Uthrow nerfed from 10% -> 8%, knockback reduced. CONFIRMED
Dthrow nerfed from 7% -> 6%, knockback unchanged but hitstun reduced. CONFIRMED
Monkey Flip (kick) nerfed 14%/12% -> 12%/10%, knockback reduced. CONFIRMED
Monkey Flip (grab) nerfed 12% -> 10%, knockback reduced. CONFIRMED
Banana (Throw) nerfed from 7% -> 5% CONFIRMED
Thanks, Don’t Kill My Vibe
King Diddy is dead
Wow, i never was defeated by a Diddy even paying with Dr. Mario or Dedede and now….much less…….
Then you never played a pro Diddy. A pro Diddy was almost unstoppable.
In b4 Stranga “Little Mac OP” comments
> unstopable
Last I checked, the most common tourney winners have been Rosie and Luigi. Diddy is NOT the only character with a “hoo ha!” either. People just focused on Diddy because his is the easiest to pull off.
You left out the word I used right before unstoppable, “almost”
It doesn’t matter that tourney winners do not main with Diddy. That has nothing to do with Diddy being OP in online multiplayer.
I personally don’t think they should have nerfed him, but there is no denying he was OP… I personally like the idea of having a few OP characters in the roster..
why?
I beat a really good Diddy player with Olimar.
I just ran away and threw Pikmin at him until his damage was really high. Rolling around and sneaking in a few down smashes meant he couldn’t touch me.
If he tried the banana, I would block it with a Pikmin or roll out of the way.
Olimar was an awesome counter.
>>>Now I’m sure the useless cattle will rejoice over this civilian news>>>
Oh hush you.
Are you Anubis by chance?
Who?
Okay fine it is me Anubis.
I knew it! One of my favorite commenters on this site returns. Now we just need Iczeama (or however you spell it) back and this site will be good again.
Ha! That’s cool that someone remembers me lol. I doubt that iceazeama will come back though unless maybe it near E3, where there would be games that would grab his attention. As of now, I think he’s trolling on YouTube or something, I have no idea.
Okay now I see what people were talking about when it doesntnlog them in at first… That’s annoying
Sadly, I think you’re right about iceazeama. But good to have one of you back at least. I enjoy reading comments by people who are objective and not straight up fanboys like most of the people on this site. So stay on this time haha.
Ice was actually quite intelligent. He’s doing fine, gaming and working his day job. Most of us original commenters are still around hovering, just not commenting as much as we used to. ;)
Hey Jaded. You’re one of the good ones too. Thanks for the info. You follow Ice on YouTube or something? I never was a big commenter, but I always read other people. I just comment once in a while.
I spoke with him months ago on his YT channel. and he supposedly is never coming back, he says there are too many delusional fans on here that enrage him. Then we had fun saying that I should take his place or that I turned on Nintendo because he brainwashed me.
Lol, he probably still comes here but just doesn’t comment.
Haha I don’t know. With some of the crazy stuff he would say, it’s hard to replicate. But if you think you can do it, please do.
Pit is now fucking supreme.
Pit is a badass.
Hell yes! the fucker is quick on his feet, put in some combo attacks in you’ll be unstoppable. For some reason I think pit was buffed. His smash attacks does a lot more damage, but it could be just me.
Best recovery:
Jump –> Side B –> Up B. Unbeatable. Except for Killager
Yeah he can come back from the depths of the stage. His side b is pretty good but is punishable.
Eh… You dont know how to make a down air with ganondorf? Or a Fair with yoshi or mario? Pit is easy to kill but is a character that demands you to take risk… If you are a boring player wich keeps on the stage while the other is returning… Yeah he is very op.
I wish he could use more weapons from uprising, but yeah I love racking up combos when playing as him especially in the air.
Yeah especially the gaurdian orbiters. Those would have looked pretty badass
>>>We’ll see>>>
Yeah my victory
>>>Maybe, maybe not>>>
Yes. I always fucking win
Pit is a little bitch
RIP in piece
You basically just said “Rest in peace in piece”
lol
That’s the joke
Grandma please get off the computer
Diddy Kong mains be salty. Jk but no matter what their will always be a tier 1 character and generally weak low tier characters so it’s pointless nerfing imo. I would much prefer weak characters getting buffed rather than nerfing characters.
This. So much this. The game is way to slow and drawn out as it is. No need to make it slower. They should buff the bad characters to speed up the game and make it more enjoyable for those garbage tier characters (which are the only ones I remotely enjoy using… except for the whole “getting destroyed by high tier crap” part).
So you would rather buff 49 characters as opposed to nerfing one? Doesn’t sound very logical to me.
The game isn’t slow. It feels perfectly fine.
was grey ninja also nerfed?
Greninja was buffed.
Greninja buffed? Better nerf Greninja
Not likely.
Stupid game its the same like all the others, nintendo games suck.
XD You mean like every game now a days
Nice name dude
Diddy wasn’t even overpowered in the first place smh. Throw a banana, down throw & up air does not make a character overpowered. It’s just spamming bullshit. A more appropriate title would have been “Annoying Diddy Kong Spam Tactic Has Been Nerfed”
Honestly with only one banana getting hit by it is kinda your fault. I find brawl Diddy to be much more useful.
It wasn’t spamming, the fact that the combo was nearly impossible to get out of made it ridiculous as hell. And considering an up air from Diddy killed almost any character at 90%, he deserved to be nerfed at least a little bit. He can still use the same combos but his moves just do a little less damage and knock back which is reasonable. Maybe play some competitive smash before you say it’s stupid he got nerfed.
U mad bro
Hello? What about Little Mac? That fuck needs serious nerfing like ASAP. His speed, damage, anti-flinching and that BS K.O meter has to go.
I hate the no flinching thing little mac has, but I still think he sucks.
And don’t forget the KO meter rewarding players that either sucks or deliberately get hit to cheat wins that way.
I barely get hit by it. Whenever someone uses little Mac I just use Mario, throw him off strange at like 20% and when he tries to recover with his side B, I just use the cape and he goes in the other direction.
Mega Man is also a really good opponent for little Mac.
>>>My favourite character to use against Little Macs is Jigglypuff>>>
Gah, jigglypuff is really tricky.
I think the KO meter goes up from him hitting his opponents too.
Pretty sure it does
Then that’s even worse.
Not sure but I think they might have made his KO meter last longer too, last night I was playing with my friend and I swear his KO meter was at full for a good while compared to before the update.
Doesn’t matter. He shouldn’t have that just to reward noobs for sucking while playing him and if he gets a feature like that, why not everyone else? It’s in-fucking-fair
Man you should really suck at smash dont you? Little mac is one of the easiest characters to fight agaisnt (if you have a 3ds ill challenge your little mac agaisnt my mario or my palutena and ill show you) its fast and its strong but its really predictible just by looking at the character pose you know what is he going to do… I challenge you i bet i can win your little mac without even losing a stock.
Try fighting two of those fuckers spamming the same OP moves at the same time. It’s why I stopped playing for a while. Little Mac is BS.
I’ve played one little mac that fucked me up. He knew how to keep the center stage and was super good at reads. I still think that was the best player I’ve played surprisingly. Not of my mains could do shit.
But his recovery is god awful. Just throw him off a side of the ledge and he most likely won’t recover.
He’s also poor in the air in general.
I’m talking about on stage. He’s BS
Try fighting him on the final destination stage lol
Dude. Throw a little mac at 50% from the edge and follow with an f-air. Done. Little Mac is not over powered. If you think he is, maybe you should evaluate your smash skills.
He is dummy. Anti-flinching when he’s charging a move, KO meter is a BS “loser’s reward” system and his speed/power has to go now.
KO punch isn’t foolproof. I had matches where Diddy side B’d onto a bowser I KO punched at 180%. G&W has super armour on a smash. Should he be nerfed? No. Mac is a really bad character if you don’t know what you’re doing. Sakurai even said that Little Mac has a lower win ratio than other characters.
Still, OP.
But the only problem is how you’re going to do it. Little Mac is stronger and faster than nearly every character and the ones that are stronger than him are way slower. And the ones that outspeed him don’t hit as hard. You have to completely change the way you play and simply stay near the edge and fight him because he will almost always win in a head to head fight. (Assuming it’s a good Mac player) And he has super armor on most attacks. Which means it isn’t a good idea to attack him when he’s on the ground and you’re in the air. I wouldn’t say he’s completely OP. But he’s a major pain when in the hands of a good player.
Thank you. Finally someone fucking understands little Mac. He’s not fucking overpowered. With a recovery like that he deserves those type of bonuses in order to compete competitively.
He doesn’t need nerfed. It takes skill to use him. Super easy to fall over the edge. x.x he’s still my main tho! ;D
Noobs use that OP fucker and what’s sad is you assholes complained about MK being OP in Brawl which he was perfect and beatable to begin with, now he’s terrible and you same assholes accepted someone even worse. How beautiful is the hypocrisy and ignorance in this fucked up society today?
Sucks
Mewtwo IMO is kinda op.
Lol yea he’s pretty strong but at least he doesn’t have a lot of range. His forward smash can do like 26% I think. I know his Charged projectile does 26%. His moves are kind of slow so it kind of balances out a bit.
Mewtwo isn’t overpowered but all ppl do with him now is spam the grab
His grab isn’t even that good, and his grab reach isn’t either. I guess people will find ways to spam anything lol.
His up grab can kill at 120+.
I guess it depends who he is fighting, I was trying them all out last night against my friend and he wasn’t dying from any of my throws at higher % than that. Can’t remember who he used though, or what level we were in which may have something to do with that. I feel there are worse throws though in the game. But time will tell. I will test out what you said tonight when I get home. I never stick to one form of attack though. I don’t rely on a good throw, or a good move and spam, I use everything in my characters arsenal. So even if true don’t worry I won’t be one of the up throwing spammers lol.
I played against a Greninja, and I used up grab when he was 120+ to K.O. him. It worked.
I played last night again with friends and they weren’t dying at 130% so I still haven’t seen it’s true power. I’m just gonna have to go in training or something and test it out myself lol.
Dude his up grab is fucking deadly at a high percentage.
I played again last night and my friends weren’t dying at 130%+ so I still just don’t think it’s too powerful compared to others :p
I can’t believe people complain about everything… I never lost an online fight to a diddy kong player… I rarely lose though :P
I just wish I wouldn’t lag that much so I could play it more online…(complaining I know…)
I rarely see a Diddy… Even on 1 on 1 matches. Most are Links :D
I don’t even play online much due to lag. So don’t worry about complaining. I got tired of trying to do a tilt attack and doing a smash attack or a running attack instead. Or trying to do a smash and instead doing a tilt or run attack. Or trying to do a run attack and instead doing a tilt or smash….etc. Lag is annoying as hell and some fighters fair better in lag than others. Slower characters are almost useless in lag. And spammers with projectiles have a field day with lag cause they aren’t affected if they just run and press B over and over. I didn’t come to play hide and seek.
Does your smash sometimes register as a jab?
YESS. Even if I use the C Stick it will do a neutral A attack or tilt attack which is literally impossible offline cause a C Stick is only supposed to do a smash. That’s when I knew I had enough online smash lol.
Yeah, he got nerfed a little, but that’s not really going to change anything. He is still just as quick and annoying to deal with. It will just take him a few extra hits to get a KO. To make him less good, they should have increased lag on some of his moves or something.
Or better yet, just make everyone else better. The game is way to slow and drawn out as it is. Buff the bad characters a bunch instead of slightly nerfing the good characters. And please stop nerfing the characters that are already bad.
I dont feel Diddy Kong needed to be nerfed. Shulk and Pit are both far cheaper, not unstoppable just annoying. Oh well, I’ll still whoop ass with him!
Yea pit is super annoying cause his run grab is way too fast. That’s what pit users I play rely on. It seems faster than anyone else so you gotta really watch your feet 24/7. And of course all his moves are quick and most are combos, and his forward smash is one of the cheapest and easiest to hit in the game. If pit is your main, I’m not impressed. He’s one of the characters that doesn’t take much skill to be good with. And shulk just has ridiculous range on his attacks so that again doesn’t require much skill. Princess Toadstool for instance against shulk has to put in so much work just to get near him cause she has such short range.
Just because certain characters are easier to learn and play doesn’t make the person playing then not skilled. Smash bros is way more about tactics and prediction, not just what character one chooses. If you can dodge shulk’s smashes and punish them for it whether your Peach or any other character, means that you just can’t play smash correctly. It’s not the character, it’s the player.
If you’re denying that some characters are easy for anyone to pick up with and win with then I think you are mistaken. Otherwise we wouldn’t even be having nerf talks in the first place.
Sure you can punish shulk with princess or anyone. The point was due to shulk’s range it’s far harder to get close enough to hit him with princess whereas he can do almost any move and keep her at bay.
It takes time to learn with pit. Especially that run grab. You’ve probably seen my pit before to know about that grab and dash attack. When I first starting I was sucking as shit with him. It took me like to 2 or 3 months to figure out his strengths and weaknesses. Those combos are pretty hard to play off if you have no smash experience.
I might have played you, not sure. I was talking about this random guy I played off miiverse though. He would just shoot arrows from a far or do his run grab and since I was a slow character there wasn’t much I could do lol. But I do feel his run grab is too fast. I don’t anyone should have a grab that is too much faster than anyone else cause grabbing goes through shields so it’s not fair if someone can run and grab and the other characters can’t match that speed. Pits got decent combos but half his moves are combo attacks so it’s not really that hard honestly. Any move that hits numerous times has a big advantage against moves that don’t. All his smash attacks have numerous hits, his forward one is pretty deadly and quick. Fox’s forward smash is pretty cheap as well with that double kick lol. But yea a lot of pits aerials are also combo attacks so most of his moves require less timing than other fighters. And I hate his recovery lol. If you don’t hit him up it’s almost impossible to kill the bastard lol. He can fly so high it’s ridic. That is my beef with him, not everyone who uses him spams like the kid I mentioned of course.
That’s not a true pit player if he just spams pit’s arrow’s. Pit does have a quick grab, but he’s not the only who does. Captain falcon for an example has a grab also. Pit is quick on his feet, of course he’s going to be a pain in the ass. And cheap shots or attack? Boy there’s plenty of cheap hit this game. King DeDeDe dash fucking killed me (pit) at 95%. Wii fit trainers side attack can kill someone at 100%. There’s a lot more of cheap attack in smash I’m just too fucking lazy to go into detail.
Yea he wasn’t a true smash player period lol. And captain falcon I haven’t faced too much online besides team matches, but he doesn’t have the quick combo attacks that pit has so many of. Dedede is pretty ridiculous lol. His forward smash and I think his up smash are really strong and they have a delay but they still hit quick after the delay and hit a decent range around his body if I recall. For a heavy character he is pretty quick I feel and for how strong he hits. My friend uses him as one of his characters and so I know how strong he is. I haven’t been playing online lately so I haven’t fought wii fit in a while (nobody I know uses her). There’s definitely plenty of annoyingly cheap attacks pit is just one of the most recent ones I had come across when I still played online. I mainly stopped playing online cause I can’t stand lag. Some games I don’t mind as much but smash is a game where every second counts. It’s just too frustrating to enjoy. Whether I win or lose I’m just frustrated cause I’m fighting with my controls to do what I want more than I am with my opponents. The fighters may not lag on the screen so much, but the input lag is pretty much always there. And fighting quick people with slower people seems to be a disadvantage. Quick fighters with quick hits have lag too, but since they hit quick, they can respond to the lag quicker than a slower hitting fighter who may still be in the middle of a move when the faster character is able to respond and turn around or do whatever. And if you have an arrow spammer like this guy then he’s not really dealing with lag while just pressing B repeatedly. But the other person still has to deal with lag just to get through all the arrows and try to land an attack before he tries the quick run grab, or runs away again to the edge of the stage and firing more arrows. Another thing, I normally can last up from 150 to 200%+ but due to the lag sometimes I’ll die a really stupid death at like 50%. And if I am pressing the C stick (on the ground), there is absolutely no reason why my fighter should be doing a neutral A attack, for that is impossible, it does smash attacks only. Yet it happens online. I’ve played people online before and they’ve beaten me pretty evenly with me beating them. But in person it’s totally different when I play those people, I beat them almost every match. So online I don’t think is a true test of ones skills sadly. It’s a good gauge, but not definitive. Same goes for me beating people online, I assume they are having the same frustrating issues as me. So I don’t really take much from a win or a loss online.
I’m right with on the lag part. When there’s throws also register as attacks. The lag can get so ridiculous that you can’t even play. Existing out will get banned. The Only quit way out is to jump off the stage and hurt your fucking good record. I’ve 4/10 of matches that I’ve will have have lag. It frustrates me that good players have to suffer from it. Something do competitive should have been server based and have a ranking system to separate those who are good from beginners. I don’t know why the hell sakurai didn’t dobthat.
Lol it’s not a competitive game it’s a family fun party game according to sakurai. Seriously though yea lag has killed my fun online lol. I’ll be down to play with friends on my list here and there but that’s about it. You planning on getting Mewtwo? He’s pretty fun I will say.
Yeah I plan on getting him right on the 28th.
True that he’s very fun as I said. Oh tomorrow is Mario Kart DLC you getting that too?
Possibly. Why? You want to race or something.
I’d be down, haven’t raced since the last DLC pack lol but I’ll be jumping back on it for the new one and especially for 200cc. Let’s just hope beating 200cc on all cups doesn’t erase all your save data like Mewtwo lol.
Lol let’s hope it doesn’t corrupt all the damn data on the cd. But anyways when I’ve bought the second pack I’ll let you know.
Great! Now all they have to do is nerf Captain Falcon! He has speed and power like Little Mac, AND has a great recovery! Please nerf
Minus a few idiots, the comments for this article are actually informative for the most part . Rare for this site indeed . Carry on please !
What the heck does “Nerfed” mean?
Don’t ask me where the term came from, as to me Nerf is all about foam footballs and stuff like that, but what it means is they weakened him in order to balance him and and make him more fair.
It made sense to nerf his uair since that’s what people complained about, but why his other moves?
didnt sakuri make comments at the beginning of this year that they were finished making changes to smash bros and all character attributes were final?
Better nerf Greninja.