Satoru Iwata has explained that the company isn’t bothered at all about how powerful the next generation console’s from Sony and Microsoft will be compared to Wii U. Iwata says that Nintendo isn’t trying to compete against them, instead they’re trying to offer something new and unique for gamers – like they did with the original Wii.
“We have not changed our strategy. In other words, we just do not care what kind of ‘more beef’ console Microsoft and Sony might produce in 2013. Our focus is on how we can make our new console different than [others].”
In yo fay-cuh!
This is why I love Nintendo. Microsoft and Sony focus more on competition and their console, yet Nintendo focus more on their customers and the actual games on the console. Which is the sole reason why the Wii outsole the 360 and PS3.
The Wii sold to casual gamers who have since moved on. You’re delusional if you think that console legitimately had anything going for it in the eyes of actual gamers.
Hey Aeolus, I actually have a legit question for you. It’s probably been asked before, but do you like Nintendo at all? Like, do you enjoy a certain game, franchise, console ect.? Just asking out of sheer curiosity.
DUDE PLS DONT GIVE A FVCK OF WHAT HE SaYS. JUST DONT REPLY PLS
And so what you’re saying is that the Wii does not, in no way, appeal to hardcore gamers? Think again. Play something like Xenoblade, or Skyward Sword, because those games aren’t for kids. At least the majority of the Wii’s games aren’t consisted of mainly FPS, unlike a certain console. And may I also ask: Why are you on this website?
Yes, two games *one of them actually isn’t “hardcore”*, in a sea of dozens on other platforms. I’m surrrrre they’re going to rush out to buy a Wii U just for ugly last generation alternatives.
I’ll never agree with the misconcepts of hardcore and casual gamers. Who’s the real hardcore gamer? The one who JUST plays FPS all the time, or their only favourite generes all the time? Or the ones more open minded to play any game of any genre?
For me those are the true hardcore gamers, who play cutting-edge games AND retro games AND simple pixelated games, puzzle games, platforming, FPS, RPG, etc.
Why people relate a “hardcore” gamer just to FPS or top-edge super HD graphics??
A true hardcore gamer it’s the one who enjoys any game from any platform from any genre from any era and ENJOYS IT playing each game to the end.
Don’t you agree people? =)
Agreed!!!!
Is it possible to favorite comments?
Amen…
Truly, it’s the same as any other hobby. The standing definition of a “hardcore” gamer, should be anyone who spends most of their free time, playing games, or has gaming set with high priority. Just how the definition of a casual gamer would be someone who just games occasionally.
The difference is time invested. It’s just as you say. The amount of time invested determines how casual, or how hardcore the gamer is. However, those who play only one kind of game, are also hardcore gamers.
Not necessarily. If there’s someone who really likes baseball, but doesn’t care much for any other sport, you wouldn’t consider them a die-hard sports nut, they would just be a die-hard baseball fan. The same can be said if you only/mainly play one type of game.
My thoughts exactly. Agreed! :)
I couldn’t have said any of that better myself. Well said sir!
I and a wise man sat on the bus today and the term “casual gamer” was said.. We talked about it for a while, just to get to the point where we could agree on that the most casual gamers are those FPS players and graphic whores.
The reason behind this was because they do not love to play the game itself. They like the visuals and to play with other people and hate playing alone where no bragging rights can be clamed. Therefore they cannot be hardcore gamers as they don’t play because the love for the game itself but for being social or for bragging rights.
You nailed it there.
Simple as.
yup^^^^
casual gamer’s play wii sports and wii fit. I honestly want Nintendo to create a system where I can play my favorite Nintendo games like Skyward Sword and then pop in Fallout 3 or GTA. All this controller stuff seems real gimmicky.
What is funny is the wiiu is at the industry standard now. There is a reason why console developers are not making real pc games and there was a real reason why they didn’t make wii games. They are both on the extreme spectrum of production and it would have bankrupt them. Just ask midway what happene.
I’ve said this before, SO MANY times…
But I never got that many people to agree with MY comment…. :'(
Amen to that
What are “actual gamers”? Trolls like you, not interested being remembered as decent human beings?
Actually, no, an actual gamer is someone who plays their favourite games, and doesn’t whine about what others play. Please, tell me all about how you know what a “hardcore gamer” really is. Because it’s people like you who give the gaming community a bad name. Calling us “trolls” for all the wrong reasons? Yup, you are new to the Internet. Believe me, I have a certain amount of respect for each individual game company, however, not to the likes of people like you. You like FPS games? That’s fine. Puzzle games? Fine too. Everyone has a different preference, and right now, you’re acting as if your opinion is right, and everyone else’s is wrong. A hardcore game is simply someone who spends their time playing video games more than the norm, not someone who engages their entire life playing WiFi games that involve shooting people in the face, which personally disgusts me, because apparently a game has to have the ability to have multiplayer to be enjoyable.
People like you give gamers a bad name. There are some of us who enjoy Nintendo games. Maybe we enjoy playing Zelda or Pokémon over and over again. So what? Go back to playing games that you enjoy, rather than harassing others. Because, quite frankly, I am sick of seeing retarded people like you acting like this. Have a good day/night sir, and I hope you realise that next time you comment on My Nintendo News’ comment section, that you read over what you have just wrote, because from what I’m seeing, all I’m seeing is fanboy-ism at its worst. And no one likes annoying fanboys.
Whoops, seems I replied to the wrong person. :S But you get the point anyhow.
agree with this^^^^
What about local multi-player were does that fit?
I’m an actual gamer and I love the Wii
And you’re an arrogant prick for counting casuals as anything but gamers.
Especially when many of them also played Core games and still stuck with the Wii.
Casuals are gamers too, fuck tard.
And every last one of them is a more open-minded consumer, and gamer, than you.
Above comment directed @ Aeolus
Wow i see you in the comments on every freaking article and i don’t read the comments much! man get ah damn life you are making yourself look so pathetic!
I love the Pokémon you have as gravatar. But Scolipede is my absolute favorite Pokémon.
excadrill ftw
excadrill ftw= excadrill forget that wimp.
nope die
galvantula :D is the best
galvantula is an awesome Pokemon….
excadrill ftw = Excadrill forget that wimp.
I said that but somehow I was Anonymous.
But I think Excadrill is a great Pokemon. Never use it. But I think it is a Pokemon. (A lot of people just complain about gen 5. There are just about 15 horrible Pokemon in gen 5)
its one of the coolest designs of gen 5 :)
I FUC*ING LOVE SCOLIPEDE.
I think it looks really cool and it is one of my strongest Pokemons
Moves: Sword dance, Iron Defense, Baton Pass and Mega Horn.
No.
The sole reason why the Wii has outsold the Xbox360 and the Playstation 3 is because Nintendo is focusing on casual gamers and children way more than Microsoft and Sony do. As a die-hard Nintendo fan myself I’m really sad to say that the Wii offers distinctly more children’s games than actually good games. The same goes for the DS also, by the way. And yes, I do own a Wii myself.
Oh, and if Nintendo was really only focusing on their customers and actual games, wouldn’t they care about good specs as well all the more ? Because better specs improve the gaming experience as well, after all. That statement of yours was true in the earlier years of Nintendo but I can’t really say I can agree with it today. Actually, I’m not even sure what they are really focusing on today. That’s what I think about it, at least.
Re-read your post until you see how ignorant you are. Here, look at this stupid line “Because better specs improve the gaming experience as well” – really? That’s the ONLY way to improve gaming experience?
lol I might be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that “as well” means in addition to…meaning that it wouldn’t be the ONLY way to improve gaming experience.
Better specs can lead to more games coming to the console thus improving your gameplay on a console, not that the games all have to be super realistic, I just think that with better specs you can get more games, and broaden your experience.
Now you are being capitalist
Ignorant ? That’s your opinion.
I never said that having better specs is the only way to improve the gaming experience. But it is a really good one. As JOSePh4 already said in his reply to your comment, better specs lead to more developers to be interested in the system and so to more good games to arrive on the system. And seriously, wouldn’t you prefer a The Legend of Zelda game with wonderful looking environment AND a fantastic storyline over a TLOZ game with only a fantastic storyline ? Well, I would.
Graphics arent everything there is a game that will prove that wrong through all history of gaming, Minecraft, its one of the biggest things out there and its fucking blocks BLOCKS! true gamers shouldnt have to care what the graphics in a game are, they should just care how fun it is to play, hell id prefer a N64 or a sega geneisis over my xbox, graphics dont have to be amazing to make a game good.
Dont lie, you said “As a die-hard Nintendo fan myself I’m really sad that the Wii offers distinctly more children’s games than actually good games.” That is the comment of a Troll. A real Nintendo fan would never say that, EVER! The Wii does have many good games. It is true it focused on casual gamers, but it is only a bad thing if you think of it as a bad thing. Nintendo isnt “competing” with Microsoft and Sony. They just want to be a gaming company who puts out fun games for people to play. Also if you read anything about the Wii U online you would know the Wii U will offers games to the Casual AND the Hardcore so therefore the Wii U has a broader audience than the Xbox and PS3 and will definitly do well sales-wise. It will most likely rival the new Xbox and PS4 that come out a year later.
Actually, some real Nintendo fans do have reservations about Nintendo’s decisions. You have to differentiate between blatant ridicule, and constructive criticism. To some people, the Wii was a disappointment, and it shouldn’t be hard to see why.
Like anything, a good game is somewhat based on personal taste. Good games for Wii might include, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Metroid Prime 3, and Skyward Sword. They might be outstanding titles for Wii, but it can’t be denied that motion controls were a turn off for many people. There is also no denying the graphical difference was glaring at times, and the online for Wii was mainly nonexistent. It’s not to say that core gamers only appreciate good graphics and online functionality, it’s that those features do enhance gameplay, and most arguments that deny it, are either misinformed, or misguided (we could still be playing 8-bit games after all).
Consider the Gamecube for a moment. The Gamecube was the logical successor to the N64. An improved controller, updated graphics, and fine tuned game play mechanics. So when people thought of the next generation of Nintendo, they were hoping for a sequel to the Gamecube. But the Wii took it in a new direction, and a lot of hardcore Nintendo fans were left with two options: to accept motion controls, or to move onto something else. The Wii was not a sequel to the Gamecube, it was something else entirely. So it can’t be hard to see why some fans of Nintendo are eyeing the WiiU with a bit of nervous apprehension. How do they know it will provide the experience they’ve been longing for since the Gamecube era?
It is true that Nintendo has said that the Wii was a bit casual, and that the WiiU will be “wider and deeper” in it’s appeal. Yet, we have very little to go on right now, considering the core appeal they hinted at during last year’s E3. It seems at this point, that Nintendo’s main focus is appealing to the casual audience, and the investors, with the hope of garnering the core support later on. At this point in time, I am not sure if the “core” appeal is very high.
It’s not a bad thing to question decisions, or to have some reservations about what’s happening, and it’s not even necessarily negative, or defacing Nintendo. The mindset is simple to understand, and it’s not even wrong or misguided. You can’t leave out some of Nintendo’s fan base in the cold because they don’t agree with nontraditional gaming.
Truthfully, we don’t know if the WiiU will provide what the Wii could not, at least, in the eyes of the “hardcore” gamer. There are a lot of interesting things going for WiiU, and it will probably be a success in many ways. But you can’t tell if a game is what you want until you play it and experience it. It isn’t so unreasonable to think that some people aren’t willing to spend money on something, they don’t even know they enjoy.
The problem with constructive critisms is its often wrong and after the fact.
Case and point the wiiu fixes almost every thing that was wrong with the wii and the hd twins.
Once again: No.
That quoted sentence is not a lie nor something a Nintendo fan would never say. It’s something a fanboy/-girl would never say.
And sorry, I did not know that having a different opinion makes someone a troll nowadays. /sarcasm
I am anything but a troll. And I’m sure not going to let my being as a Nintendo fan be questioned by someone who does not even know me. I know that I am a huge fan of Nintendo and that’s enough for me. I really could care less about what the idea of “being a fan” is to others and about what people think I am.
Anyway, going back to the actual topic:
The Wii does have good games, but not ‘many’. In my opinion, at least. And focusing on casual gamers is nothing bad money-wise for Nintendo. But it could be considered “to be not that good” for the true fans, since the reason for the Wii (or Nintendo’s “recent” systems in general) being called a children’s toy is exactly that: It offers more games for casual gamers and children than actually good games. And if I’m not wrong, the Wii being called a children’s toy seems to be one of the things Nintendo’s fans complain the most about.
And I never said that the WiiU does not offer “hardcore” games. Though it looks like it will be mainly offering ports or multiplatformed games at the beginning. So those “hardcore” gamers most likely won’t decide to buy the WiiU if the games it offers are available on already existing systems or upcoming systems they actually want, as well.
And about the WiiU rivaling with the new Xbox and Playstation… We can’t know about that. There’s barely any information on either of them. There isn’t even much of offcial informations on the WiiU, so we just can not know anything about that. Though the fact that the WiiU is mostly being compared to the current generation systems doesn’t make Nintendo looks that good, to be honest. I just hope for them that they truly will be able to compete with the other companies.
When the next gen Sony and Xbox come out I’ll compare them to this gen also and the wiiu and how far they fall short of gtx690 pc gaming since their main goal is power. Fans don’t care if the wii is called a toy, because it is. When a console begins to compete against my pc then I’ll call it a pc.
You like many other fans are echoing stuff that doesn’t matter to real gamers unless they are fanboys of another system.
The things that mattered are he output because you had to have a dlp HDTV for the wii to look good. Wiiu fixed..
The Ngc versions of their franchises ran like uncharted lol. 30-60 in hd is very doable now since the wii was able to easily do that in sd.
Nintendo’s 3d games are getting back to the essence of the 2d game play in 3d now. That transition was very long and rough.
Too many addons… Now the game pad is the ultimate addon since it can mimic many things now with the screen.
New ip… Xenoblade, pan tower, last story and they keep funding treasure projects and they are the only dev that have many successful variations of the same game franchise.
Zelda 1
Zelda 2
Snes Zelda/ 4 swords
Celda wind waker
twilight princess
Skyward sword
Just for example they could make direct sequels to any of these games since they are all really really different game play wise.
Also a lot of fans and haters need to pay attention, nintendo is on the move to snap up 3d artist, surely they don’t need that for wii looking games.
So yeah if you are a fan you would know these things and quit spreading negativity when there is nEed.
” As a die-hard Nintendo fan myself I’m really sad to say that the Wii offers distinctly more children’s games than actually good games.”
your not a die hard Nintendo fan t begin with, they would never say that. that’s a troll comment in disguised
I am not going to ask a fanboy about his perception of what a die-hard fan is, sorry.
And I do not easily call someone a “fanboy” but I’m basing my statement on what I’ve seen in your comments in the past months on here.
so your telling mii that u are not please what Nintendo Wii has done; if not the retire man, do it if U are not please with gaming anymore, not my problem if U hate change.
I’m afraid I didn’t really understand what you just said. Could you repeat it with proper spelling ?
But I understood the last part, I guess. And yea… I’m not quite sure how you came up with the idea that I hate changes. Because I certainly do not hate changes.
read the comment again, is not that hard.
With that spelling of yours, it is hard indeed.
Don’t listen to them any little bad thing said about Nintendo will get them all into a rage about you and how you are a troll for formulating an honest opinion over something you own and not agreeing that everything Nintendo ever did was amazing
Unfortunately, you’re right.
But thank you for showing me that not every single person is this community is like that.
U are going off topic, i dont know why you care about people’s spelling like this is school.
Holy crap you must be 12
(facepalm)
die hard nintendo fan ? lol ur a fanboy
read the comment again closely
that’s my point too, they focus on more on there software rather than hardware. in other words they start over fresh with the Wii and there continue with it.
Thats because the overall power won’t matter next-gen. Even with the Ps4/720 being more powerful, it make no difference when all next-gen games will finally run 1080p native, smoothly. We’re finally gearing up for a graphically-even console generation, where exclusive content wins the day.
Nintendo = Winning.
Keep believing that, buddy. It’s more than just 1080p on everything.
PS2 was weaker than both xbox and gamecube and still sold more. You r the one in denial.
The PS2 actually happened to have games and features to compensate, and the “weakness” gap was not nearly as large as what the Wii was to the current generation.
Try again.
Also, you’re*.
The wii had a Graphics chip from 1998. The wii u will have a graphics chip from as early as 2008. The CPU is as new as 2010. How is there going to be a huge gap? If sony and microsoft want to smash nintendo in terms of power they are going to have to price their consoles at $600- $700. Im pretty sure nintendo will be fine.
“How is there going to be a huge gap”.
If you knew a thing about Sony/MS and PC gaming, the answer would be right in your face. And It’s so fucking annoying that fanboys constantly post this $600-700 bullshit and not actually explain why it would be that much. The PS3’s price was the fault of BLU-RAY YOU BLOODY, UNEDUCATED TWIT.
Calm down buddy.
You cant compare a PC to a console you twit. It will be $600- $700 if they want this so called power and you know it. They will probably include a blu ray player inside the next ps and xbox you idiot. consoles. You are smoking some kind of illegal substance.
You sir, are an idiot.
Fact: 360 cost $400 at launch and the GPU was on par with high end ones at that time. Educate yourself and stop living in a world of denial. It looks very, very stupid.
You think there is going to be so much more power in the next playstation and xbox and you will get it for below $600. I hope you wake up and smell the roses.
And yet, they STILL took losses off of each 360 console sold up until 2008.
Plus using ultra-powered CPU’s & GPU’s can EASILY make a home gaming console just as expensive.
he is
Ya and graphic gap wont be as noticeable between wiiu and ps4 720 nipple boy lol.
Prove it.
He doesn’t have to prove it, time will.
Time won’t, I’m telling you now.
Oh, so the PS4 will never actually get seen by anyone?
dont go on about this 600-700 stuff blur raus have dropped in price the most expensive PS3 part was the blue ray drive not the internal GPU CPU and other stuff
So it wont cost as much as before to make
I am sorry, mate, but there is no proof. Don’t believe everything Nintendo says, because it may end up being a big fucking lie.
Ummm…Nintendo doesnt lie. You want to hear a lier. Go watch the speeches of the United States Presidential candidates. Now THOSE are a couple of liers.
Yeah.. I am not American, so I don’t give a crap about these. Plus i didn’t say Nintendo lies, I simply said taht people should not belive things THAT fast. Even if it’s Nintendo.
Yup, gaming is everything on gaming consoles. For everything else, in the technical aspect, there is already a solution: the pc. But guess you will still running after ps5 and xbox 1040, cause they are lesser gaming pcs…
Hey Yo Bitch, You need to learn your place. Get out of here little bitch, If you dont love Nintendo you leave. Only real gamers play Mario , Mario started mostly it all. Also i play-Own a Wii-3ds-vita-360 So Yeah im no fanboy. You are also gonna comment back being a ”grammar nazi” because you are scared and aint gonna say shit ,now bitch, I know your like 11 or 9 so go play on Roblox or something.
Wow, you sound like a fan boy in this post, honestly…. Also. I think what you wanted to say is “All real gamers play Mario” Saying that only real gamers play mario makes my grandma a Real gamer because she tried it once.
“Die Stupid Timesplitters!”
– Mrs 89 year old.
lol^
So we guetto now?
Honestly, I think that the exclusives and the price are going to play the biggest part in how this gen works out. Yes, there will be alittle gap between. But the gap will just not be enough for most people to care about. Yes, some people will, but far less than 50%. And when it comes to exclusives it’s all about personal taste in games. So personal taste and price will be the thing that’s going to drive people to buying the systems they want.
I remembered reading this a while back.
Well nintendo you should care or else your ass will get kicked by the other consoles and will be like the wii again ..Nintendo im not putting up with your bulllshit , at E3 2011 you said you will be focusing on the hardcore market and so far your not me that , all i saw this E3 was casual shit and stupid sport games , LOL i can hear the fanboys growling …Cmon nintendo atleast care about your consumers and give us what we want ..we wanted a new earthbound and we never got even though you know how much want that game …Nintendo all you have been doing this gen is screwing up and looks like nintendo is screwing up next gen aswell , im not a troll ..im just a very dissapointed nintendo fan :(
I’m not disappointed yet. It looks like we’ll see what the Wii U can do soon enough.
Nintendo should care about their target audience (which should have shifted back to the more experienced gamers), I agree.
However, this article was about how Nintendo does not care about the Wii U’s graphical prowess in comparison to the other yet unseen consoles.
I like that Nintendo is always doing its own thing, as if it acts in an industry that is entirely theirs, but they really need to keep the gears turning a bit faster this time around, because the Wii, as much as it accomplished, moved on very slowly. The Wii Motion Plus should have been introduced earlier and applied to all of their games, and they needed to develop games constantly as opposed to their short-burst strategy. That is my opinion at least.
Did you seriously think Nintendo was going to completely abandon the casual market to go after the hardcore? I can see that meeting at Nintendo headquaters “All right everyone, I have an idea for our next home console. Let’s completely abandon the consumer base we built with the most successful console we’ve ever produced and go after the picky, whiny, flip flopping, don’t have the balls to play games they like because their friends don’t like it, using videogames to determine their manhood” crowd.
“Let’s lose all of our individuality and just become Sony/MS clones. That’s a surefire success.” When Iwata said they were going after the core, he meant the console would be able to handle the multiplatform games the Wii missed out on..
2 more points. 1) Most gamers are casual, deal with it. 2) Nintendo is the core of the industry, they don’t need to go after the core.
Their casual market has already moved on to Kinect or iOS/Facebook. So there is virtually nothing left.
Finally. Someone smart. Casual gamers don’t exist on consoles! They spend their time jerking off to Angry Birds and f-ing Cut the Rope.
Heh, that’s funny. Last time I looked the Kinect was hated all across every board of the internet AND has yet to catch up with the sales made by the iPhone in it’s first year.
There is a difference between gamer hate and success for casuals.
Kinect came in 2010 as an optional peripheral and sold 18 million units and counting…don’t even try to kid yourself. The power of casuals will prove you wrong.
lol funny because anything Nintendo casual is fail but with Sony or M$ is a win, fool U know how retarded U sound. U hate casuals but not when there on PS or Xbox.
*Groan*
He is saying the casual audience of the wii has moved onto the Xbox Kinect witch is the fastest selling gaming peripheral ever and mobile games
He in no way said that he perferd anything over anything else he simply said that casual gamers have moved on from the wii onto the Kinect and mobiles and Facebook.
“U know how retarded U sound.”
there is no prove that casual move to one place to another like that without a reason, like smartphones, U think people buy phone for games, no they buy it for communications, and they only buy games that are free, only free. so are U telling mii that they spend $300 on xbox and another $150 for kinnect, only to buy what. same with tablets they buy it not for games but for what it can do for make there life easy not for games.
I’m not saying that pepole are going out and buying the latest iphone to play games but they play games on tablets an iphones to pass the time if you look at app sales you will see they have been increasing as well as the paid 1 dollar ones even if they are free thats still a lot of people content with their iphone for their gaming needs. Pepole with gaming as their hobby wont get it these causal gamers see games as a way to pass the time thats why angry birds has sold so much its a little thing on your iphone that you use to pass the time on the bus not somthing you sit down for hours and complete becouse of the amazing story line controls and then go discuss it with your friends. the wii was selling to those people people who wernt interested in zelda or mario but just wanted to pass the time after the app store came out they saw that the device that they played music on could play small games for free and then they had another way to pass the time. to deny the proof that casual games move is to deny what a casual gamer is interested in passing the time between more important stuff and following the latest fad.
hey whatever makes them happy.
To mean the cod players? Oh they will be on the wiiu… Move games like the last of us? Well watch dog is much better. The multi platform games will take care of that.
So what the fuck
I play borderlands, dark souls, minecraft, skyrim, dirt and any other game even if its retro or anything
But for playing fucking angry birds Im a casual wtf with you
lol this i agree on^
nintendo knows what there doing.
Very true… It is also funny how these hardcore respect gamers that keep buying games they must trade in because it was hyped. Then EA and activism continuously rape them.
Yet they rage here because they are mad at of companies.
It’s like the hardcore wants nintendo to rescue them lol. If I don’t like what ms and Sony are doing I go to pc. Do I go to their web sites? I think the lack of investment in their platforms speak volumes. Way more than crying on the Internet.
Also a tip to the trolls. In nintendo eyes you must provide a very detailed response then they will see if you can be satisfied. This is how they work.
so true ^
“Well nintendo you should care or else your ass will get kicked by the other consoles and will be like the wii again”
You mean outselling everyone else to the point where everyone else is copying them? We don’t want THAT to happen again!
outselling dosnt mean shit , me as consumer felt ripped off when i bought the wii , i was expecting games to come to it but the 3rd party sucked and sadly i had to go buy a ps3 . the wii failed at software sales
“Outselling doesn’t mean shit” I love how that argument only applies when Nintendo is the one on top. I didn’t hear people talking that shit when the PS2 was on top.
by sales i mean console sales , using sales as an argument is stupid ..ask people people that have a wii they will say it sucks and people havnt touched their wii for years and big budget 3rd titles werent coming to the wii and your saying the wii wasnt a failure ?? sure it didnt fail in the sales but in overall entertainment,3rd party, graphics ,features…IT FAILED HARD !!
Once again, you’re owning yourself with your own words. “Talk to people who have a Wii” Have you spoken to 96 million people? Just because you and a few people you know disliked the Wii for whatever reason, doesn’t mean it was a failure.
The Wii didn’t get those big 3rd party titles and still outsold the HD twins. Every console has it’s strengths and weaknesses, the Wii had it’s fair share too, but that doesn’t change the fact that it was a huge success, putting Nintendo back on top of the industry and becoming their most successful console to date. Numbers don’t lie.
If you had said, “The Wii was dissappointing to me” I can’t agrue with that, cause it’s your experience. But there are just as many and more people who are satisfied with and love their Wii.
“wii failed at software sales”
um…did U check the sales of the wii games dumbass?
fanboy alert, look at wii software sales and compare it to the 360 and ps3 versions of the multiplat and wii version sells less , and the wii sucked , admit it …most nintendo fans like me hated it and its only selling point was its gimmiky motion controlls and wen people bought it they realised they wasted their money and bought a console with shitty graphics, shitty horspower , shitty 3rd party support
look at best selling sales, now look at 3rd party, yes its true that 3rd party sucks, im not interesting on 3rd party because how they like to port bad games for giggles.
Read 3rd parties sucked… You are complaining to the wrong company… Tell rockstar you wanted it on wiiu. I’ll still get it on pc, you should have gotten a pc anyway.
People game on iPads and other tablets and smart devices and they outsells every console, does that mean they’re the best for gaming? No, it doesn’t. See, sales really don’t mean anything.
“..and will be like the Wii again ..” LOL the Wii didn’t fail in the slightest, considering it sold more than the other two combined.
The ‘other two’ sold about 60 000 units each, the Wii sold 90 000 units. I don’t thing 60 000 + 60 000 < 90 000
I don’t think those two made more money than nintendo ethier? Also when did we start making up numbers so they could win? Oh since the ps3 is out selling every thing talk.
You dont understand that the Nintendo console wont be “far behind” the Xbox “720” and PS4. They will all do 1080 graphical-wise. You wont even be able to tell which games comes out clearer than the others. They will all look “the same.” So in terms of innovation, the Wii U has got the new Xbox and PS4 beat already!!! I wouldnt count out the Wii U too early. I have a really good feeling it is going to hit the market with a storm and will sell really well all over the world.
Were you DRUNK when watching E3?
There were at least three noteworthy third-party offerings[Assassin’s Creed III, Arkham City Armored Edition, and Zombie U from Ubisoft] in the showing and plenty of second and first party offerings.[ Tank Tank Tank and Project P-100 are both looking awesome.]
They aren’t screwing up.
You’re just impossible to satisfy.>_>
tell mii about it^
noteworthy ? pffffft all i saw was games that are already out getting ported to the wii u
Which is why they are waiting to show the rest. Be patience… You can buy a ps4 in two years and then pick up a wiiu when you get tired of it. Yet you really need to voice your concerns at the 3rd parties Nintendo won’t be making them do any thing consumers will.
Well seeing as i buy Nintendo and Playstation, i dont care either, not like the other next gen consoles are even gona be that great anyway
If I owned the intellectual property rights to Mario, Metroid, Star Fox, Zelda, Donkey Kong Country, GoldenEye, Kirby, Eternal Darkness, etc., etc., I wouldn’t care about anything or anyone else either.
^ this
nintendo doesnt own eternal darkness anymore :(
This is Exactly It!
Nintendo dont Have to compete with Graphics or Networking, They have what Microsoft and Nintendo will never have, a Classic Backlog of Exclusive Titles unavailable anywhere else.
People usually Either have a PS3 or Xbox, but will still have a Wii.
you mean Microsoft and Sony? :/
Wait, Nintendo have something Microsoft and Nintendo will never have?
I think we found a cloning machine, guys.
I made a Grammatical Mistake on the Internet
I have Brought Shame to my Family!!
*Seppuku*
But you know what i mean, Microsoft have Halo, Fable, and other mainstream titles, Sony have… Some Games, But nintendo have a series of Franchises steeped in History and Loyal Fans
Halo, for example, dosnt have such a Fanbase, if Halo 4 isnt Shinier with new guns and more realism, people wont buy it
Nintendo dont have that Issue
Sorry, bro, but Nintendo doesn’t own Goldeneye and Eternal Darkness.
Wise words Mr. Iwata. Innovation and good games are what sells a console, not the power of the machine.
It’s not about power, it’s about the games…Hence the term ‘Games Consoles’.
Now that is the one, true comment I simply cannot disagree with ya. It’s all about the games.
+1
I really do like Nintendo and i think its awesome that Nintendo dont care about Sony and Microsoft and that they do there own thing!!! But maybe shey should make a more powerful system that is on the same level as the PS4 or XBOX720 will be. If you look at the current generation, the wii has not so much support from third partys becouse the wii can not handle the graphics. This is the reason why wii users have less grat 3 party support. And when this happen again that 3 partys can not port there games from ps4 and XBOX 720 to the Wii U than this current situation will continuing. Nintendo can do there own thing and this is good, but they must go with the future! Developers want more graphic power, and this is what nintendo must hear!!! I know that graphic is not everything, but it is important so that 3 partys can develop for the WiiU. The only thing i can hope is that the difference in graphic power from wiiU to ps4 or XBOX 720 is not so high as in the current generation, so that 3 partys can port there games also to the wiiU!!!
They just can’t do a system to match Nextbox and PS4. They will release their systems in 1-3 years. The technology will be so many times better by then with the high increase in technology that is today.
Also, those consoles will cost atleast 600$. I don’t think anyone will actually buy them at that price.
Nope a gtx690 will still cost $400 instead of $1200 in 3 years. It’s not going to happen. Ms and Sony are risking loosing millions again if they go that route.
I expect them to tie some tech together and just hype the hell out if it even though it is basically the same al la ps3 vs Xbox 360.
We will see but the ceiling is the gtx690.
If you look at the zelda demo and the unreal 4 engine demo they have many of the same functions. Try downloading a trial copy of maya or zbrush and you will understand.
well its all about the games never about the hardware.
Way to make your console different from others:
Make it for casuals.
Oh wait they already did that.
As a matter of fact, Winnie the Poop, they’re making it for causals, hardcore, and franchise.
I think thats true. Nintendo has unfortunately lost the hardcore market, but it has not lost its fan base. Hardcore gamers own a ps3 or 360 or both. Many hardcore gamers also own a wii for their exclusive titles. Same will go for next gen. I know I will be getting a wii U at launch and very likly a 720.
Nintendo has not lost their fanbase? Do you think those 90+ Wii sales were fans alone?
If that’s the case, SS and a heap of other non-Mario titles would’ve sold like hotcakes, which they haven’t. The top sellers are dominated by casual games.
Only because the “casual” games you speak of came bundled with the system or motion plus remote, balance board etc.
You keep forgetting that the WII IS HACKED!!!!! So most people don’t buy the games but just downloaded it. Get with the facts. The WII sold more and that’s that. The games didn’t sell alot cause most people hack their wii and just downloaded the game. It will be different with WII U since in theory it will he “harder” to hack.
Look at the sales of the xbox360 do you think all those purchases for for legitimate games buyers? Guess again. I know alot of gamers who bouth the 360 just to “hack it” and play the games for free. So stop talking about sales… the hacking community has mess up that.
You also state that the wii is collecting dust……… NOPE guess again… alot of gamers still play their wii’s whether it be hacked or not.
Nintendo will do fine so don’t worry for them and stop discouraging people to buy it. It will sell and it will do well.
Get N or get OUT!!!!!!!!!
^this^
Nintendo’s consoles will never be different than the others as long as sony and microsoft keep on copying their ideas.
You’re name actually makes sense. LOL
very mature name.
Sony and Microsoft aren’t really competition. They cater to the idiots that’ll believe that Nintendo’s for kids/casuals.
I (and many other gamers) consider the off-brands like Sony, Microsoft, Phillips, Android/iOS, and others to be “beta-testing” as far as being game-systems is concerned. They make primarily phones or movie-playing devices that have some game-playing capabilities as optional side-features. Their fanbases will pay to beta-test games, and once those games are good enough, their developers bring them to Nintendo to be immortalized alongside Mario, Zelda, and Samus Aran.
This is so true. Just look at dead space! Oh noes it’s to scary for those hardcore players playing cod. Not having a sniper riffle and not being able to camp is just too scary oh noes!
Sony should just stick to making movie tie ins for games and ms should fix their windows so pc gaming work correctly again for every one involved.
That’s the right attitude to have. Let the drones argue about power, you just keep making awesome games. Leave luck to heaven.
It’s funny how people say nintendo will get smashed by sony and microsoft when they don’t know the true specs of the next gen consoles including nintendos.
All people have are uneducated guesses. If the wii sold more because it was the cheaper of the three guess what the wii u will prob sell more because the untrained eye cannot tell which system has better graphics. Also i have a bunch of friends whose kids own a x box or a ps3 and the parents bought it for them. The reason I bring this up you walk into a store and you see a wii u for $400 and you see a X box and ps4 for 5 plus which are you more prone to get?
Nintendo should price hicher therefore giving them an oppertunity to do a price drop when the new systems come out. Also why tell everyone the price so that the competitors can make a price drop when you get ready to release that’s not smart.
Fact is if your going to buy a wii u it wouldn’t matter if they gave you the price a week before launch it wouldn’t matter because you should have put at least a few hundred away sense last e3.
Just wondering if anyone here knows; I know it’s Wii U is Wii compatible, but can we play it on the gamepad or just on the t.v.? I have a bunch of great wii games ready to be played because I gave my system to my nephew.
Wii U is backwards compatible with all Wii games. If you’re talking about playing Wii games on the gamepad, no details have been announced yet. :D
Aiight thanks bud.
I love Nintendo, but I don’t want a console that it’s a joke in power. I want a console that it’s powerful enough to compete with PS4/720 and also have tons of third party games and first party games! Nintendo can’t focus on the casual gamers anymore since they moved to iPhone and shit like that! Come on, Nintendo! Get serious. Announce Metroid Prime 4, announce a new Star Fox, announce a new Wave Race, do something, please!
Who really gives a fuck about the power? Oh, that’s right, pretentious twats like you who think power = third party.
As long as it can play Project CARS as close as it could to the PC version, no one cares.
Well, it does really matter, fucking fag. Look at the Wii! It had nearly no power and it missed out masterpieces like BioShock, Borderlands, Assassin’s Creed, etc.. If you want this to happen, then you are the biggest fanboy ever. Even developers care about power! That’s why they didn’t support the Wii. Actually, they did, but with a laughable number of games. The NES and SNES had third party games because they were powerful consoles for their games. Educate yourself.
Please educate your self. The gtx 680 and 690 are available for the pc and no one is making anything exclusive for it. A matter of fact more powerful hardware has exsisted on the pc every since the ps3 launched. Look no farther than the 8800 GeForce which ran crysis one, was used to create the very games that you are affraid are not coming to the wiiu.
You just got fooled by an industry that ms has bought up and full of Sony fanboys.
The hardware capable of crushing Nintendo and any future next gen system is here today. I see no crushing at all yet. Nor will you see any later.
Nintendo has sonys casuals figured out. Sony and ms know this… Which is why they copy.
If you want 3rd parties then tell them. They have no excuse now. They are ready have the 3d art and the engines. There really isn’t an excuse now.
I also love how Nintendo it’s working on WIi Fit U, a game nobody wanted! Instead of working on Metroid, Star Fox, Eternal Darkness, etc.. series that the hardcore gamers want, they work on Wii Fit U and SiNG!
Even tho I hated wii fit……. the wii fit franchise is really big. Sorry dude but WII FIT U is gonna sell like hot cakes just like it’s predecessors. I know alot of people with the balance board and just cause they heard of wii fit u they are willing to buy the wii u just for that game. My grand mother and my aunt still plays wii fit for fitness purposes.
So i gotta disagree with you…. wii fit u alot of people want that stupid game.
Get N or get OUT!!!!
So that means Nintendo can’t focus on Star Fox and Metroid for once?
Actually, there is word that Retro Studios is working on a new Star Fox title. But it wasn’t announced at E3 because apparently Retro was not prepared to present it at the time.
I will have to say, Nintendo isn’t exactly the most absolutely perfect, hardcore gamer catering company that we all would like them to be. They may come off as a company who more or less cares about the content of their software more than others, but much like Sony and Microsoft, they are a business first. Therefore what sells sells and what works works. That being the case I don’t really have any gripes against Nintendo, aside from a handful of titles I would have loved to be available on the Wii. In spite of their hardware not garnering as much “hardcore” respect, taking on the “Let’s just do our own thing” approach worked out fine for them so far. As for how they will do in the future, we just gotta wait and see.
In the mean time, I believe its just best to enjoy the games we get or already have and remain open to whatever happens later on. Gaming is all about having fun. Marketing and sales, let the CFO’s worry about that, it’s their job afterall.
Maybe you are rught, but me as a fan of Nintendo I have the rights to worry about Nintendo.
I agree with you, to an extent. DonnyKD really needs to calm down and get his facts straight sometimes.
As for power, I’m not betting on something that can truly compete graphically with next gen. Why? There are a couple of reasons:
First, the Wii U is coming out earlier than the competition (at least 2 years). Think about it, let’s say the Wii U came out with the most powerful things possible from 2012. But if Sony launches their console in 2016, but with the best hardware from 3 years ago, they’d out power the Wii U at a much cheaper price.
Second, some of the extra graphical power present in the Wii U will be sucked up by the tablet controller. It’s nothing like the DS if you’re talking about asymmetric gameplay, it’s rendering 2 graphically intensive scenes at the same time. That’s more than 1080p by default (720p+480p, or 1080p+480p).
Third, the price of the tablet will undoubtably impact the “default” hardware. Let’s say nintendo is releasing a new console without a tablet controller of any kind for $350 (which is what I’m expecting it to be around). Now, last minute they decide to throw in a tablet controller (which I’m guessing is around $50). Are they going to sell their hardware at $400 now? Or are they going to cut corners so they can reduce the price back to $350? That’s why the Wii U may not seem to look like it competes with next gen.
But I doubt this situation will be anything like the Wii. The Wii used incredibly outdated architecture (as in, it didn’t even have the minimum requirements for UE3. Even smartphones had the minimum requirements). The Wii U is confirmed to run UE4, it’s just that Epic isn’t putting time in to optimize it. That will be Nintendo’s or a developer’s job to do. So ports are inevitable from the PS4 and 720, which is a huge step up from the Wii.
In the end, the Wii U’s success will ride on the games. The launch lineup is pretty good if you really think about it. A true hardcore exclusive, a beautiful looking pikmin, graphically improved multiplatforms (even though from last gen). Heck, even NSMBU is visually great if you’ve seen screenshots, even if the core game play hasn’t been changed much at all. I cant wait for the Wii U. :D
Sorry for big wall of text. :P
Yeah. I agree with all you said. I just can’t stand fanboys keep saying that power means zero.
Same. Though I enjoyed the Wii to an extent, I know I’ve been missing out. I’m hoping the Wii U will fix it.
Yeah. For me GPU, CPu and RAM are the most important things about power. GPU it’s important it’s because if the GPU it’s good then textures wil be crisp and the character models will also look great. CPU it’s important because if the CPU it’s good then the AI of the enemies it’s better and the locations are bigger. Now, RAM it’s important because if the amount of RAM it’s high, then the loading times are shorter and the console will handle lots of stuff at once. See? In fact, the gameplay of Skyward Sword would have benn flawed if the GPU, CPU and RAM of the WIi would have benn weaker.
So today’s lesson is: Power=Gameplay. It doesn’t matter even if Miyamto says otherwise, if the console is weak, then the game will not work well.
Nobody want? Well… I don’t know about that.. It is after all the most sold weight device ever made.
Well, most people got rid of the Wii Fit which is a POS and went to the gym, the place that helps you lose wight!
Power doesn’t matter?
Show me the Wii handling multiplats…ohwait.
If sony and microsoft only focus on specs they will fail.
Who said theywill do that? They will make a powerful machine with good games. What Nintendo should also do.
Nintendo have said that they will get great third party support. Its obviously powerful enough. Thats good enough for me. I think people are retarded when they say wii u wiont get third party support when ps4 and xbox 720 come out. My point is power will not be a problem with wii u.
“Nintendo have said”
You guys believe anything Nintendo says.
We will see. WIii U is rumored to use a Raedon of the 6000 series and the PS4\720 a Raedon of the 7000 series which is way stronger.
If you actually looked at the rumored GPU’s for both system, you’d see that the Wii-U is rumored to use an optimized Radeon HD 4890 while the PS4 is rumored to use an optimized Radeon HD 7670, which is basically a rebranded version of the Radeon HD 6670 that’s rumored to be in the 720. The Wii-U is actually rumored to have the superior GPU seeing as it’s using a high-end 4XXXX series while the PS4 is rumored to use a mid-range 7XXXX and the 720 is rumored to use a mid-range 6XXXX. The real question is the GPU.
*cough* specs *cough*
Honestly.. Sony and Microsoft really needs to do something cool that strongly enchant the gameplay. I am not talking about graphics, but something that really stands out. And I strongly doubt that they will actually do this. Microsoft is the ones that fails the most of them all, their 360 has not really anything that no one of the other systems have.. Yeah, they have kinect which all of the two people who played it enjoyed. Also, that kind of device existed for PS2 as well.
Eighter Microsoft or Sony will have to leave the console industry after next gen if they don’t step it up. And I pray that it’s Microsoft as they bring nothing new to the art of creating video games. Nintendo is “safe” because they’re doing their own race and will have unique things that makes it worth buying even if you have a PS4 or 720.
Sony systems have Sly Cooper, jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, God of War, Killzone, The Team Ico games, Resistance, Infamous, Starhawk, beyond, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk and Valkyria Chronicles which are kick-ass. If the PS4 will have those systems, the PS4 will be just fine IMO.
I meant games, not systems. LOL
WIth those awesome series, Sony will leave the gaming business only in your dreams, bro.
I have to agree. Sony is not going anywhere, anytime soon. The PlayStation is a very well established brand and has plenty of high-quality series to keep it afloat. Not to mention, Sony does care about their consumers.
Yeah. Sure, Sony’s president can be a huge jackass sometimes, but hey, this is the gaming business for ya.
Which is what Nintendo is doing.
well, i think they should care! i´ll not but another old console to have horrible ports just as wii
First Miyamoto was like ” Power it’s not important!” and then Iwata is like ” We don’t care about power!” Nintendo should change their attitude…………. oh and working on casual games and get back to F-Zero, etc.. I am waiting since 2004 for a new damn F-Zero game!
* and stop working
As long as it can accept ports of titles from the Xbox 720 and PS4, then it doesn’t matter to me, but if it can’t, there’s little chance I would buy it. I still have hope though.
If I could collect all the pieces of the triforce and make one wish, I’d wish for the world to understand that power does not equal graphics and that graphics are only a part of power…wait..no I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t wish for that.
Nor would I wish for people to stop using the sales argument to support the wii. Just because it sold a lot doesn’t mean its the greatest thing ever. If sales = greatness then the Call of Duty series is one of the greatest game series ever made.
No one thinks sales make a system good (unless they are completely stupid). People talk about how the wii failed, so when people say that then the sales do matter.
With the Wii U coming out a year later it gives Nintendo a head start. My thoughts are that while Xbox 360/PS3 users get bored with their systems over the next year they will go out and buy a Wii U to “occupy their time” while waiting for Xbox 720/PS4. They will play the awesome games on the console and realize that it is actually pretty good. The graphics are good, the games are THE BEST and maybe they actually like it better than what the Xbox 720/PS4 can offer. It isnt that far fetched. Anyone that plays on the current Xbox or PS3 who is NOT a fanboy will probably do this….and c’mon they cant all be fanboys. I expect many gamers to switch over to the Wii U for conveinient pricing and good games with good 3rd party support as well as GOOD graphics….because Nintendo has that now. Nothing you can hold over Nintendo anymore :D
Xbox had many flaws though, red ring of death, and honestly I hate how I have to pay 50$ a year, then pay 20$ for DLC and then there are AD’s all over the dashboard.
I would like Microsoft but they seem kinda greedy. Main reason I like Nintendo is for the games that are all around just unique. I have to admit though the Wii does appeal to “mostly” hardcore gamers. Some people like I enjoy the more competitive side with Super Smash Bros, Mario Kart, and Monster Hunter (Maybe a few others but those are the main 3 I know)
Nintendo 64 was the best console, but most developers I think wanted to make something better but the Wii kinda limited them, I don’t see that as a problem now though. Hopefully they can just start making games again like they used to instead of the carnival games.
Graphics don’t matter in the next generation in my opinion as well, they’re pretty much at peak performance and I think they need to focus on how games run on it. I sure as hell know Skyrim shouldn’t have been on the Xbox. Such a poorly coded game, at least Oblivion had the coding so if you enter a door and leave it, it loads automatically instead of waiting 5 minutes. Wii U will have something special I hope.
Yay made an account.
The Wii U will become the most best console ever
we’re already on the edge of graphics,so i don’t care if PS4 or Xbox 720 gonna be more powerful,we already have what we need,the only thing we need beside graphics are the games and the gameplay
Nintendo has been focusing on the gameplay and games for a very long time,because gameplay and games are almost endless while graphics are almost near the end of the line
Nintendo knew they can catch up with the “Graphics War” of Sony and Microsoft.
Don’t just say that the Wii U will be the best console, I would hope it happens but don’t spout stuff like this. I honestly play my Xbox more than my Wii due to the online play. I love everything about the Wii but they can’t bring new content at all, and the online is horrid. I think the Wii U might have the ABILITY to come in first, but they have to start making good games like they did for the N64 and start pleasing gamers more.
I know one thing, a new Paper Mario would be nice (especially with the old combat)
Nintendo should have enough capability as everyone else now… they need to bring their old titles back for sure.
theres going to be a new paper mario for the 3ds with the old combat it comes out in december…
If they are serious about wanting to “win back” the hardcore crowd, they should care. “Different” != “better”, and Nintendo should learn that. Wii sold well, but not because of “core” or non-casual players. That group had a very, VERY small hand in the Wii’s success.
Also, casuals don’t crave new console tech like core gamers do, and they certainly aren’t going to pony up $300 or more for another “party system”, especially when they already have one that suits them fine.
The people who do care, are core gamers. And core gamers care about more than just “oh look, a second screen/new controller!” They care about graphics, gameplay, story, and variety of core games. Nintendo won’t accomplish that if they keep making consoles that are capable of doing significantly less than other consoles can in terms of game engines, game size, physics, animations, etc. Thats the bread and butter of 99% of developers, not “hey look, menus and maps on a touchscreen!”
Meanwhile at Infinity Ward – Mw3: Look, we didn’t make a new menu!
Also we don’t even have a music volume button, it just makes your whole volume go down :D.
I have games like 15 years old that have that option LOL.
Please, say “core” one more time…
This doesn’t all of a sudden mean that Nintendo is making the Wii-U super weak or anything. They’re obviously going to add decent power if they actually want 3rd party support, it’s just that they’re not going for the most powerful system. As long as the Wii-U has the ability to do everything the PS4/720 can in some form or way, it shouldn’t miss out on any multi-plats unless there’s a SIGNIFICANT difference in power.
Besides, only the Wii was made with the intention of being weak. Personally, I don’t see the Wii-U having any of the issues that their past systems had. Power? Check. Online? Check. Storage Size? Check.
How big is this so called core gamers? What about the mid gamers? What about the follow a game series gamer? What about the sports gamer? What about the RPG gamer? What about the follow a developer gamer? What about the play once in a while gamer? The only thing that is the same is they are all gamers? So tired of this fictitious group of “core” gamers.
Wow, all this arguing over console power and graphics? Listen up guys, here’s a fact. My PC is already more powerful than any of the next gen consoles, and it cost me $1,000 to get the parts and build it, and I’m not even using the best specs, there are GPUs and CPUs out there that destroy what I’m using, but are way to expensive. We’re talking about $500 for the GPU alone. If next gen consoles were to be on par with current PC hardware, it will cost at least the money I put into my PC to manufacture one console, and to cut the price of the console down to $500 would mean massive losses per sale, if it sells at all. Consoles will always be behind PC, that is a FACT! Don’t like it? Deal with it. Truth is truth. However, the difference between PC and consoles is affordability. Consoles are not meant to be powerful, they’re meant to be affordable gaming machines that anyone can invest in, unlike PC, where you need to invest in a lot of expensive hardware parts. Therefore, it doesn’t matter how powerful the Wii U is, as long as it’s more powerful than current consoles it’ll get support. Nintendos goal is finding the correct balance between the consoles power, and keeping it affordable, without taking losses per sale, which is exactly what console publishers have to do, and that’s where Sony and Microsoft made mistakes. Their consoles came out powerful, but they’re not bringing in good enough profit.
Honestly, it’s stupid for console gamers to argue over graphics and power. If you really care that much about it, than why are gaming on consoles? Get a gaming PC! You will never find graphics as good on consoles. Consoles are not supposed to be comparable to PC, they’re meant for affordability and exclusive features and content.
Why the hell are you bringing PC into this? This is Wii U VS PS4 and 720
Nobody gives a motherfuck about your PC in a console discussion. Might as well let you know.
Good. I don’t either.
Great. I don’t either. I doubt any normal human being does. But not every gamer is competent enough to do that, hell, most MS/Sony gamers aren’t. Nintendo need to recapture the “hardcore” audience and sadly, the so called “hardcores” are too ignorant to realise that graphics aren’t everything.
They probably either be as powerful or slightly more powerful than the Wii U. It shouldn’t be that different. Remember the developers don’t know that much about the Wii U hardware. So in the next 2 years or so. The graphics should be AMAZING! :)
But Nintendo keep saying that power doesn’t matter and bullshit like that, I though Nintendo was more proffesional. What happened to the Nintendo of the 90s that always tried to make the strongest console of its gen??
No reply? The part with the 90s Nintendo really made you cry. The truth hurts, huh? Reality hits you hard.
That was when Nintendo truly cared about the hardcore gamers. It had awesome first party games ( Mario World, A Link to the past, Super metroid, Star Fox, F-Zero, etc..) and awesome 3rd party games ( Street Fighter 2, Contra 3, ActRaiser, etc..) Hands down the best console ever. The PS2, Genesis and original NES come close tho.
Yeah because Nintendo stopped making games like Zelda, Fire Emblem, Punch Out, Donkey Kong, Mario, Metroid, etc…oh wait they didn’t. Nintendo never stopped caring about the hardcore gamers, it’s up to the consumer to actually buy 3rd party titles rather than constantly blame Nintendo for the lack of 3rd party support.
Yeah, they keep making the SAME series over and over again. What about Wave Race, F-Zero, Star Fox, etc..?
It’s pretty much confirmed that they’re making F-Zero and Star Fox and, again, just because they forgot about those series for ONE generation doesn’t mean they won’t make anymore. The same thing happened with Metroid on the N64. Also, did they not bring back Donkey Kong Country or Punch Out? Did they not continue other series such as Fire Emblem? Did they not introduce a series that can stand toe-to-toe with a series like Zelda with Xenoblade Chronicles? Besides, as long as the games are fresh and unique for each other, I don’t see the reason to complain about a lack of new IP’s.
What about Wave Race and 1080 Snowboarding? One of my favorite N64 games..
I bought most of the 3rd party games of the Nintendo consoles..
How did that work out for them? The N64 and the GameCube did horribly. Making the strongest system has hardly ever worked out. Ntm, all Nintendo has to do is make a system that’s in the same ball-park as the PS4/720. It doesn’t have to be the most powerful.
Yeah.. The Gamecube was made in 2001. The SNES was made in 1991, a powerful console, had tons of games, successful console- Simple as that.
SNES was the strongest console of its gen and also the most sucessful, so your argument is invalid.
But by how much? The SNES didn’t exactly destroy the Genesis in terms of sales, they were reasonably close and, again, it didn’t get the support due to it’s slight power advantage nor did it steal most of the Genesis’s support because of it.
Sure, the difference was small , but it was still there.
Funny how ya faggots talk about being real gamers yet refer to yourselves as nintendo fans lol fagboys. Hardcore gamers means ppl who are mature enough not to play moronic childrens games. Ugh i truly hate the white race unreasonable fools.
So Nintendo not worried about the competetion yet they blatanly compared their online to xbox live saying even when they try theyll never be able to offer a powerful master pc online experiance.
Nintendo killing standards fucking liers just like crackers
Way to go nintendo, you truly earned my respect!!
SORRY fags but that bs stradegy cheap win tactic is getting old. Xbox 720/ps4 will be 100 times more powerful than weak coward sametendo btw fags microsoft said theyll price future nachine 99 bucks like mobile phones meaning poor ppl will be able buy.
MICROSOFT SAID THEYLL FOCUS ON THE BEST GRAPHICS AND TO COMPETE WITH PC FUNCTIONALTY…BTW THEY SAID THEYLL REALLY CONSIDERING TO PRICE IT $99 PLAN & PPL WILL BUY NO MATTER WHAT BS YEAH MAKE AWW GUESS YA PRICE ADVANTAGE IS OVER. YA CHEAP GARBAGE CONSOLE
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha aaaaaahhahahahahhahahahaha, what a load of shite. $99?! Go fuck yourself, pal
Says a troll who plays Sesame Street and Disneyland on his Kinect/Xbox 360.
Vitanic lol funny analogy because the tatanic was the most luxary boat ever that offer top of the line pleasure for high class ppl . Also fps huh funny because kotaku stated that ps3 offer tons more jrpgs while wii offered shovelware=hardcore lmfao
This is the Grammar Polic Department. You’re under arrest for making a complete ass of yourself! Cum out with your hands up, Casual Kinect gamer!
Ok power graphics with two exclusives on the exbox lol. Gears 4 and halo 5! Lol. Nintendo is gaming period.
Fable 5, Forza 6, Alan Wake 3, Shadow Complex 2.
SO THE 3dxl COULDNT FIT A SECOUND ANOLOG LOL LIERS SO A COMPANY KNWON FOR MAKING SLIM MODELS COULDNT MAKE A SLIME MOTHERBOARD SO THAT THE BATTERY TAKES UP SPACE BULLSHIT. HMMM VITA HAS 2 ANALOGS AND THE THINGS BATTERY IS HUGE. WHATEVER NINTY DOES NO SIN
Says the troll who can’t fucking spell.
And thats why most Nintendo gamers own a PS3 also.
I have a PS3 and Wii. Wii for the gamecube and good Wii games like Metroid. PS3 for the hardcore stuff.
And Vitas battery is huge? LOL. It’s only got 4 hours in it. Same as the 3DS.
Vita’s battery actually is bigger capacity than the 3DS.
And no, they’re not the “same”. The Vita terminates the 3DS on max settings against max settings on battery life, the 3DS just barely comes out on top on the lowest settings. But really know, who the hell are playing their handhelds on minimum brightness, sound, etc?
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@thedragon SUP bro. Did i strike a nerve or exposed nintys kryptonite? Microsoft is already experimenting by pricing the xbox ay 99 and guess what so far a majority of ppl have purchase the plan. Thus they cannow give you god at an affordable price.
Says a 7-year old troll who prostitutes and can’t spell his fucking name right.
@UNATION SAYS THEY GUY WHO BOUGHT A 3ds WHERE YOUR COMPANY EVEN ADMITTED THEIR 3D WAS A FAILED GIMMICK THAT WILL BE DROPING SUPPORT LOL WOW SLAP TO CONSOMER FACE. CABT READ MY GRAMMAR WELL WHATEVER MAKES YOUR HURT EGO MORE COMFORTING
Says the troll who had anal sex with Jack Tretton and owes him $6.4 billion.
The reason trolls fail is because their spelling fails. Look at my spelling and grammar. I didn’t even use spell check and I got it right.
You should use spell chekc and check your grammar.
Consomer = No such word -_-
Hands-down. Iwata said it all. Whoever wants to give a fuck about it, go ahead if you have the balls.
@unation says THE TROLL WHO PLAYS RENECK JAMBORI AND BARBIES PONY ADVENTURE LNFAO WHICH OUTSOLD METRIOD M HAHAHA FUCKING DISGRACEFUL GUESS YA ENJOY BARBIE HUH GIRL
Is that all you got loser… besides sucking your own dick and get raped by your daddy?
It runs unreal 4 and cryEngine 3, everything else is inconsequential. The Wii U is a gaming marvel end of story.
PS3 and 360 also run CryEngine 3, dude.
“Gaming marvel”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
we’ll see if they really don’t care when the ps4 and nextbox arrive.
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That is one thing I love about Nintendo. As Reggie said, “It’s all about the game.”, and that’s what they’re sticking to. In the old days, it was difficult to develop games for multiple systems because the hardware is so different. It just turned out that, for example, the Super Nintendo had better games than the Genesis. Now with the Xbox 360 and PS3, it’s super duper easy to release a game for both systems. Thus, the only thing that really separates the two are the hardware, which has the better specs. With Nintendo, their systems are about innovation, such as the Wii and Wii U. This sets them aside, and it allows developers to experiment with new ways to play video games. The DS was a good example because developers found many new and interesting ways to incorporate a second screen which could be touched, for example, Zelda: Phantom Hourglass. These new ways to play really set Nintendo aside from the competition of best hardware, because they create new and interesting ways to play video games.
Guys calm down. Stop calling everyone who disagrees with you a troll or a drone. They have every right to be suspicious due to the Wii. Now, I personally enjoyed plenty of great games on it but I can understand if some people are a bit wary. Now, guys, this doesn’t all of a sudden mean that Nintendo is making a super-weak-ass system. It just means that they’re not going for the most powerful system and are instead trying to make it powerful enough for the developers and cheap enough for the consumer. Oh and guys, a year of difference isn’t going to make the PS4/720 destroy the Wii-U. Did the the PS2 get destroyed by the GameCube and the Xbox? No. Did the 360 get destroyed by the PS3? No. Did the PS get destroyed by the N64? No.
Oh. Only if the Wii U would be the PS2 of the next gen…… Weakest console of its gen, but has the best game library…
I am saying this because the PS2 it’s my 2nd favorite console of all time, onlky behind the SNES.
The PS2 is definitely a game-library beast, I don’t think anyone could deny that with memorable titles such as Shadow of the Colossus, Jak and Dexter, or Sly Cooper. It can easily stand toe-to-toe with any systems game-library. Now as for the PS2 being the Wii-U of the next-gen, like you, I don’t see that happening. I don’t see any console ever touching the amount that the PS2 sold but it could happen. I still however think it’ll hold it’s own against the PS4/720 in terms of power.
Yeah, like kinda how the PS2 got a lot of the multi platforms even if it was weaker than gamecube and XBox.
So, Nintendo is going to attempt their “Blue Ocean”. It won’t be as blue as the Wii’s though.
I personally admire this approach. Their new system seems sufficient enough in terms of power anyway.
That is true. I honestly doubt that the Wii-U will sell as much as the top three best-selling consoles (PS, PS2, and the Wii).
Lovely! Nintendo cares more about the joy and fun of games rather than processing speed and graphics! Microsoft and Sony may have more advanced consoles later on in the future, but that doesn’t really affect how a game should be played. Nintendo all the way!
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Jeez. You would think Nintendo killed peoples’ family. It’s just video games.
The way the Xbox One is going, Nintendo already has one idea they know not to try. So it looks as though its clear sailing for now
I am not sure where you are getting your info, but great topic.
I needs to spend some time learning more or understanding more.
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Good on you Iwata San! Who needs 8GB of RAM and an 8 core processor? It’s overkill!!
Stick to the uniqueness of the console.