Research Firm Says Nintendo Is ‘Behind The Next-Gen Curve’

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Senior principal analyst and head of games 
at Screen Digest Piers Harding-Rolls has told Edge that he believes that Nintendo is behind the curve in a number of fields when it comes to next generation consoles. Harding-Rolls cited online and cloud content strategies as something Nintendo has yet to fully embrace. Thankfully, Nintendo announced earlier this week that Miiverse will eventually come to smartphones in the Spring.

“We believe Nintendo looks increasingly isolated in the market. It does not have the luxury of a wider device ecosystem play such as Sony, Apple or Microsoft and it is behind the curve in its online and cloud content strategies. We would like to see Nintendo be more aggressive in ‘hinging’ off its devices using its online platform – Nintendo Network – onto third-party devices as Microsoft is starting to do with Xbox Smartglass and Sony is doing with PlayStation Mobile. Neither of these solutions is significant at present but it does show that these companies are willing to engage users on the most popular third-party connected devices to drive relevance for their own products.”


129 thoughts on “Research Firm Says Nintendo Is ‘Behind The Next-Gen Curve’”

    1. The Surface is pretty nice; But, I assume you meant Smartglass, which is also pretty good. Although I admit, I do not gravitate towards using Smartglass like I do a Wii U controller.

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    2. I have to disagree with this, only because SmartGlass has made a believer out of me. Playing Dance Central 3 during a party, it’s so much fun to keep dancing while those waiting for their turn can select the next song or setup the playlist or change any of the options, all w/o while the gameplay is going. I can do this on my smart phone or tablet, on a 7 year old game console (8 in November), for free! Yeah, I hate to say Nintendo is behind.

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    3. The idea is that you don’t HAVE to hold them both at the same time.

      Just because you’re too stupid to realize it’s potential doesn’t mean it’s a bad idea. It’s just like a Wii U controller, only the screen is sitting next to you as a reference, not a constant source of attention. How often do you REALLY need to use the Wii U screen if devs weren’t shoehorning in every “look at the screen” feature they can think of just because?

      Exactly.

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  1. This shit didn’t even make any sense.

    Basically, stupid analysts thinking if it does n have an app, its not “In the curve”

    Good job /s

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    1. It wouldn’t make sense to you, seeing as you clearly lack an actual social life where these things would matter to the average, non-Nintendo cocksucking “human”.

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        1. Saw and was the same snarky bullshit based on what you, a Nintendolt would have to say.

          Let this be “positive” news though, more of the same circlejerking. Predictable.

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          1. Except what this guy said is nothing but mindless complaining.

            Sony and Microsoft have only just done this, and then they said what theyve done isnt even significant yet. Then where is this behind the curve crap coming?
            Because Nintendo aren’t releasing a smart phone app either…oh wait, THEY ARE.

            As usual with “tech reporters” these days, everyone butt fucking the iPhone, and Android. Yeah, we get it, theyre big, we all probably own one, its not some crazy new thing, that everyone must become.
            Nobody is this enthusiastic about a phone.

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              1. “Microsoft is starting to do with Xbox Smartglass and Sony is doing with PlayStation Mobile. Neither of these solutions is significant at present”

                I did, did you?

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                1. Because the implication was clearly that Nintendo lacks a broader device ECOSYSTEM, you twit.

                  It’s more than just trying to shoehorn your online services to other devices; Miiverse isn’t doing ANYTHING in comparison to this, in any way that actually matters. That is what they are insinuating.

                  Holy fuck do I have to spell the simplest of shit out for you idiots to get?

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                  1. Of course, now that I think about it more, they likely missed that part entirely.

                    Still stands that Nintendo is always last to everything that truly matters for entertainment.

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                2. Oh and by the way, Cloud DOES MATTER for the next-gen, just because you’re stuck in the 90s, doesn’t mean millions of others are there with you, besides your fellow kiddies clinging to a largely irrelevant gaming company.

                  Woohoo, Miiverse on my smartphone…

                  Anything else? Oh, okay.

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                  1. Cloud only matters THAT much to insecure little elitist faggots like YOU.
                    Most like it but don’t view it as an essential that must be had.
                    That’s just you, bitch.

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                    1. THEY GET PAID BY SMARTPHONES COMPANIES LIKE SAMSUNG THAT’S WHY THEY MAKE THIS STUFF THEY WANT NINTENDO TO START RELEASING SHIT AND FORCING CONSUMERS TO GET THEIR SHITTY PHONES, SUCK MY DICK SAMSUNG

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                  1. ohhhh, wow! because suddenly my ability to spell makes me a faggot!! really.
                    what are you, twelve? resorting to personal attacks simply because I pointed out your failure to comprehensively read an article? come on. you can do better than that.

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                    1. if you insist, then sure!

                      lets begin with that final sentence there. I’ll put my commentary in parenthesis for this first part.

                      > “… Neither of these solutions (these solutions being Smartglass/PS Mobile) is significant (in terms of impact and usage) at present, but it does show that these companies are willing to engage users on the most popular third-party connected devices to drive relevance for their own products.”
                      that second half of the sentence is indeed true, of course! however, nintendo has already stated, both in the past few months as well as at the recent ND that these kinds of “third-party features” (access to miiverse and e-shop via mobile and web) are indeed coming!

                      now, according to what you’ve said….
                      > “….. the implication was clearly that Nintendo lacks a broader device ECOSYSTEM … ”

                      that’s also obvious, /at the current time/. again, these features are coming in the future! we all know that.

                      “Miiverse isn’t doing ANYTHING in comparison to this”

                      again, I will correct you here by saying that, at the MOMENT, Miiverse (and eShop) isn’t doing anything in comparison to Smartglass/PSMobile.

                      the point of the matter is, Mr. Hardling-Rolls and his firm are stating information that consumers already know will be moot in the coming months! we know these features are coming already! to spew negativity about a certain company without looking to what that company has planned in store is quite ridiculous, don’t you think?

                      also, your reuse of the word “faggot” in order to provoke me into anger is a piss poor attempt. uwu
                      also, your grammar’s wrong. “how exactly is that the case” should be “how exactly that is the case”.

                      thank you!! have a good day. c:

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                    2. This is pathetic.

                      “that second half of the sentence is indeed true, of course! however, nintendo has already stated, both in the past few months as well as at the recent ND that these kinds of “third-party features” (access to miiverse and e-shop via mobile and web) are indeed coming!”

                      Are indeed coming…when? Also, how is this so extremely significant as what their competitors are doing among other similar features that are likely being prepared for their upcoming consoles?

                      More importantly, why does it take Nintendo ages to do everything their competitors do properly? Anyone can say “it’s coming”, but fucking -when-? For instance, they announced that the Eshop would eventually hit smartphones and web browsers back in 2011…where the hell is it?

                      “that’s also obvious, /at the current time/. again, these features are coming in the future! we all know that.”

                      Coming in the future, okay, so they need to start releasing them on a timely manner and not half-assed whenever they’re finally available. They announce all these things and seemingly take a year or more to deliver it, being late to standards that the others have delivered faster and more efficiently.

                      “again, I will correct you here by saying that, at the MOMENT, Miiverse (and eShop) isn’t doing anything in comparison to Smartglass/PSMobile.

                      the point of the matter is, Mr. Hardling-Rolls and his firm are stating information that consumers already know will be moot in the coming months! we know these features are coming already! to spew negativity about a certain company without looking to what that company has planned in store is quite ridiculous, don’t you think?”

                      Too much use of “coming” for things that could have been done since the very inception of those features. They seem to announce features that would be coming and fail to deliver them on a timely basis. See: Browser based/Smartphone Eshop. But thanks for showing how behind the curve Nintendo actually is…because that’s clearly what they are.

                      Don’t even bring up grammar when you lack proper punctuation skills and stick a bunch of weeaboo emotes in your sentences.

                      Oh, by the way…

                      You’re a faggot.

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                    3. …oh man, I should keep track of all the times you say “faggot” to further prove how juvenile your attitude is. it’s quite amusing! but alright! if you’re so hell bent on pointing out my punctuation every time you type a response, I guess I’ll make the effort to take this argument a little bit more seriously!

                      “Are indeed coming…when? Also, how is this so extremely significant as what their competitors are doing among other similar features that are likely being prepared for their upcoming consoles?”

                      Wow— Slow down. That was a wordy sentence. The fact that Mr. Hardling-Rolls (and staff) failed to pose the question of “when” at all in their analysis (as well as fail to mention Nintendo’s plans in bringing these services) really points to how increasingly biased this particular portion of the report was! Plus, it’s not a matter of “significance”. Nintendo’s induction of Miiverse/eShop onto web-enabled devices, computers and smartphones in the future is by no means more “significant” than Smartglass/PS Mobile (although, it’s debatable whether anyone /really/ enjoys Smartglass in the first place…. just look at the reviews on the app store). And timeliness is hardly a matter of discussion here—or rather, is even important to the discussion at all. This isn’t a matter of “when” Nintendo will release the eShop/Miiverse onto third-party devices. It’s a matter of /how/, and if, at all, it will be efficient. To be honest, you’re just exhibiting severe impatience. Things like this take time.

                      “Coming in the future, okay, so they need to start releasing them on a timely manner and not half-assed whenever they’re finally available. They seem to announce features that would be coming and fail to deliver them on a timely basis. …. But thanks for showing how behind the curve Nintendo actually is…because that’s clearly what they are.”
                      Huh????
                      You’ve stated two completely unrelated points here. Also, what constitutes a “timely basis”? Just because Nintendo announced that these features were coming (keyword: coming), doesn’t mean they have to cater to your… quite frankly stubborn expectations… and deliver them as soon as humanely possible. Until Nintendo announces a date, estimated time frame, or potential release quarter, why would you assume these apps were coming instantly?

                      And oh, I apologize. I didn’t realize my “weeaboo emotes” were bothering you. (✿◖◡​◗) To be honest, I’m not sure you even comprehend what “weeaboo” even means, because you’re using it in a completely irrelevant manner.

                      And, to be quite frank, I cannot for the life of me understand why we can’t just discuss this manner in simple, respectful terms! Why all the name calling?

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      1. Did they say that? Maybe if you like, READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE. You would be able to deduce what they were saying.

        But I forgot, reading is out of your comfort zone unless the title is something positive with a picture of Mario on it.

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        1. And reading is out of your comfort zone unless it is about Nintendo failing and Microsoft and Sony prevailing and a lot of fanboys crying to you. Don’t assume from one post I am a fanboy aeolus.

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          1. Why explain yourself to this guy? You do know he’s a fat fuck, living with his parent’s with nothing better to do then come to a Nintendo site to bash Nintendo, and fails everytime. The kinda guy you and your friends laugh @ when you see him waddle into McDonalds and then waddle out with 2 bags of food. Nothing he says holds any weight, unlike his chairs which must be made from 2″ thick steel.

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            1. wii u is going o be behind when next sysyems come out and there probably going to be expensive to develop for, all i care is that the wii u doesnt turn out to be the shitty wii, and so far now it looks like it wont, it will have more exclusives, it already looks like it

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                1. no it does there it has some really good games, but this is why everybody hates nintendo and there is a reason, now the wii u looks awsome now, but faggot fanboys will hate on whatever nintendo does, oh steam will kill ps4 or xbox, nintendo wont die unless they pull shit like not bringing anything over again, and canceling because the wii cant sell any good games well xenoblade and last story sold and now pandoras tower might sell good too, thats why nintendo wont suck they will bring the good games over because if they dont, i wont deal with a crappy system because they rely on shovelware

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  2. Nintendo is a VIDEO GAME corporation, MS and Sony are fucking conglomerate of brands and products, you can’t expect Nintendo to be at the pair with them, is ridiculous to expect that, not YET at least.

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  3. “We would like to see Nintendo be more aggressive in ‘hinging’ off its devices using its online platform – Nintendo Network – onto third-party devices as Microsoft is starting to do with Xbox Smartglass and Sony is doing with PlayStation Mobile”….

    Microsoft STARTING to do, yeah, 6/7 years into the xbox 360s life, PlayStation Mobile a year less than Microsoft….

    The Nintendo Network is still relatively new.

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  4. I’ve been saying this for a long time, and now I have an accredited source to back me up. Nintendo is a loser unmanly company that will forever be behind the curve of manly companies.
    ~THE REAL Bill~

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      1. some people on this website is losers if you want to trash talk thats for youtube, why you on a forum that you dont like, you probably like nintendo in some way, would go on a microsoft page cause i dont give a shit

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  5. “We believe Nintendo looks increasingly isolated in the market. It does not have the luxury of a wider device ecosystem play such as Sony, Apple or Microsoft and it is behind the curve in its online and cloud content strategies”

    No app and no cloud saves. Oh my, the horror.

    “We would like to see Nintendo be more aggressive in ‘hinging’ off its devices using its online platform – Nintendo Network – onto third-party devices as Microsoft is starting to do with Xbox Smartglass and Sony is doing with PlayStation Mobile.”

    Oh, that thing that Microsoft and Sony have only just done, and Nintendo is dojng anyway?

    “Neither of these solutions is significant at present but it does show that these companies are willing to engage users on the most popular third-party connected devices to drive relevance for their own products.”

    This is the fucking icing on the cake.
    Basically, the thing they’re complaining about Nintendo not doing, that Sony and Microsoft have only just done, which Nintendo is planning to do very soon, isnt even making a difference yet, and has no significance, as of the moment.

    Way to make your article completely pointless.

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  6. Shit takes time y’know? Oh wait I forgot, Anaylists don’t believe in patience. That is why many people are predicting doom, because their too impatient and believe that the system is suppose to be perfect on launch, it takes time for consoles and services to get better and improved, the same happen when 360 and PS3 was in its infancy

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  7. And he is analyst SAD miiverse is going to smartphones and pc so it is just dumb . And lack of research. Microsoft and sony are tech companys they have dealt with various forms of tech but nintendo is a gaming company just gaming. So dont expect their online to be like the others anytime soon

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  8. Just dont expect any break through soon and nintendo network has not been bad. People keep comparing nintendo to microsoft the former world number 1 company. And once king of electronics sony. Am not saying nintendo cannot make a better job with that crappy account system and integration. But they are slow because of that patience is key

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  9. “We would like to see Nintendo be more aggressive in ‘hinging’ off its devices using its online platform – Nintendo Network – onto third-party devices”

    nintendo said last year ans in the most recent ND that miiverse was coming to smartphones and web-based devices in the future
    this analyst seems to be “behind the curve” in his information

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  10. Maybe Nintendo is a little behind in these areas because they are exclusively a video game company when Sony and Microsoft both do much more than just games? No, that can’t be it. It makes too much sense.

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    1. Lol….so true…it just pisses people off that nintendo was just released and the games look better and the gameplay thanks to the new gamepad is awesome……it took microsoft 7 years to get here and sony sucks with their whopping 30 frames per second…the gamepad on wii u has better graphics than ps3 and is faster frame rate…double to be exact….i work on these systems people..wii u hasnt even released their main stage games yet…think before u talk u damn bowtards….in a year nintendo will be a force to reckon with…..im out dumb shits….

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      1. Thank you for that, i keep telling people this wii u is not a pussy. If the wii can produce Xenoblade Chronicles and Metroid 3 and it’s THAT SMALL, WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS FAT ASS WII U CAN DO:)

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  11. CORRECTION A RESEARCH FIRM WAS PAYED TO SAY THIS BY A INDUSTRY SOURSE KNOWN AS MICROSOFT

    ITS A VIRAL CAMPAIN ITS JUST ANOTHER BROWN ENVELOPE WITH CADHBIN IT JUSTLIKE MICHEAL PACHTER GETS

    ITS PROPERGANDA ITS BERN GOING ON ALL WIIS LIFE THEY SEEM UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND THATNO AMOUT OF SLABDER CN UN DO WHAT WII DID

    IT DISRUPTED THE GAMING INDUSTRY SEDING 3RD PRTYS AND SONY TOWARDS BANDRUPCY

    ITS ANTI NINTENDO NONSENSE THEY GOT PAYED TO RED A SCIPT THE OS COMPUTE INDUSTRY AND ATARI STSRTED THIS IN THE 1980S

    WAKE UP THERES BOOKS WRITEN ABOUT IT

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  12. Man, screw everybody who keeps saying Nintendo is behind on next generation. Just how are they coming to that conclusion? Let me guess….they’re comparing the Crapbox and Gaystation? They all need to stop doing that crap. Nintendo doesn’t have to copy everything those idiots do.

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  13. lol @ industry insiders sitting in smoky back rooms trying to un do what wii and DS did to them DISRUPTION funny enough nintendo did this in the 80s they destroyed atari with nes disruption

    the computer industry has been at war with nintendo ever since the epcs and id softwares of this world want all consoles and gaming devices to GO AWAY becuase they dont hve the talent to compete there os compute compays hiding behind operating system fanboying

    they cannot match GAME CREATIVITY OF THE CENTEYS OLD PUZZLE AND GAME PLAY COMPANY KNOWN AS NIN-TEN-DO

    ITS FEAR THERE TOTALLY SHIT SCRAED

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  14. the gamepadthe wii remote the wmplus are behind the curv WHAT

    a gaming high performance high speed interconnector mcm with 35 mb of edram on it is behind the WHAT

    a custom fast loading disc system with 25 gb space plus compression is behind the wyats it called again

    the wiiu with wii remotes nunchucks classic pads gamepads total and full cross controler support IS BEHIND SOMETHING OR OTHER

    dreammmmmmmm drsm dream dream dreammmmmm

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      1. Cloud storage isn’t necessarily the same as cloud gaming (or streaming a game from a cloud). Chances are, you have been using cloud storage for many, many, years. Something that you rely on a great deal. Think about it.

        What’s more, a lot of games have been using cloud storage, including Nintendo games.

        Clouds are a great tool when implemented properly.

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  15. What this guy is saying doesn’t make sense. I agree with the statements people put out saying Nintendo was behind the curve with online gameplay and distribution. “Was behind”…

    Now they are with the times with digital distribution. Heck, Nintendo is the console distributor of the main three to be embracing it the most now (again, of the main three. I am not including Steam in this) And as far as the statement as connectivity to external non-Nintendo devices goes, he ignored the fact that Nintendo announced an app to access Miiverse on smartphones, and also confirmed the process of an eShop app where you can buy games on the go, and download them when you get home, Steam does this. But according to this guy, It’s still counts as behind the curve because It’s not out yet, apparently.

    Also, It’s not exactly fair to compare Nintendo to Sony and Microsoft in the first place. Unlike them, Nintendo is a video game company, they do not make phones, TVs, radios, and anything else like that. So if you want to judge Nintendos decisions and practices, you must consider their goals and identity. Sony and Microsoft are not gaming companies, they have gaming devisions. Nintendo, however, is nothing but, so if you want to make a claim such as “behind the curve” remember who you’re talking about, and remember the current position of other video game companies right now. Until Steambox was announced, Nintendo was the only dedicated gaming company developing home consoles for 10 years, and despite going up against smartphones and other new innovative pieces of tech, Nintendo is still doing extremely well. Give credit where it’s due.

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  16. Why are they judging the wii u when neither other consoles have been revealed. These guys better fucking apologise publicly if suprizenly both just one of the other consoles is on par or weaker then the wii u.
    And second off they’re really bitching when they want Nintendo to fight back and be aggressive. After all the time looking down on them. They want them to fight back now? They’re doing fine what they’re doing. They should focus more in Microsoft n Sony. The outs also.

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  17. hahahaha. Oh man… when did he say this? Because it had to have been a long time ago. Nintendo has already said they’re making apps for miiverse for smartphones and tablets. Where does this guy get his information? Obviously not from Nintendo themselves.

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  18. So are you telling me that the Research firm completely neglected to research how Nintendo is bringing the NN services (now Miiverse) to other devices? THAT’D BE THEIR JOB.
    I mean, Microsoft and Sony don’t actually have that much in the way of additional services.

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  19. I could care less about cloud services when a terrabyte hard drive is $70. I could care less about competing in online arenas where the only initiative is to always be better than everyone else. However I no longer want to play games unless I have some sort of forum to go along with them where I can share in experiences with others.

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    1. wii u looks a lot better than both xbox and ps3 in games right now, people who are major fanboy are annoying, they hate no matter what, sony steals and is always crappy worthless, microsoft rips you guys off, dont hear any of that, you guys will deny that tho, stupid fanboy, everybody who likes nintendo will know that the wii sucks, even good games will be canceled or not brought over to states, it atleast could of bean stronger than the gamecube so most of the games would look good on widescreen

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      1. sony controler sucks they wouldnt be alive if it wasnt for that stupid snes cd thing they were working on then sony took that into there ps1, i like sony there better than microsoft but all they do is fucking take ideas from everything, ecsept there shitty controller thas so ground breaking they dont change it, if they just change there controller to one like xbox and steal it, sony would be killing microsoft in sales because everybody hates there controller,and most sales for the 360 have been from 33% of owners buying 2 or more

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  20. I am so sick of these people. Nintendo makes the best video games ever. I thank the artists at Nintendo for giving me so much awesome entertainment I have enjoyed with family and friends. I hope Nintendo buys Vigil games and Darksiders and Red Faction. I also hope Nintendo makes a Nintendo 3DS XXL with 7 inch upper screen and 6.25 lower touchscreen, that is ultra thin and light that has MiiVerse, Nintendo VideoChat, Amazon Prime, Netflix, Hulu, and a super awesome Internet browser and two circle slider pads and two more triggers and it can be a Wii U controller. I bet it would sell like IPad mini or Kindle Fire HD.

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  21. As far as I know, Nintendo is a game company. Unlike Sony and Microsoft has lots of other business. They can sync every product they have. I have less expectation to Nintendo’s Online capabilities but I know they’re working hard to catch up. It’s one step at a time.

    I’m hoping to see Cloud technology on the Nintendo Side this year.

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  22. Looks like there are no intelligent analysts left. They all seem to be Pachter clones and from now on will receive the same treatment he gets from me. Leave luck to heaven.

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  23. No effing shit it’s behind. People are going to want their systems to be more like entertainment consoles and less like children’s plaything with kiddy games

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  24. Cloud gaming? Not the next generation, more like the other way around..

    I want to OWN my games, not play someone Else’s when yet they can turn the server off any time they want. And you need Internet.

    It’s only good as an addition, NEVER a “next” generation of the gaming culture.

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  25. Haha ! It’s funny because they began their analysis on the grounds that MicroSoft or Sony are somehow a reference to gaming feature innovation, obviously ignoring who has always taken the risks first WITH SUCCESS, to add each component of what we all today call the “console gaming experience”.

    Nintendo shapes what gaming is. Nintendo is the patron. Deal with it.

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  26. Sounds to me like another person willing Nintendo to go 3rd party. Nintendo are more or less doing what they’ve always done and they’ve always been criticised for not being cutting edge, and it’s never mattered. While everyone else is trying to craft the finest HD boobs Nintendo is trying to advance gameplay. The gaming market is currently in a mess because Nintendos imagination is goiong through dry spell, so there’s nothing for anyone to copy!

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