There’s a number of things that have gone wrong when it comes to Nintendo’s current home console, the Wii U. However, Nintendo’s very own Shigeru Miyamoto has blamed the console’s struggles on its high price point and the high adoption rates of tablets and smartphones. He hopes that the successor to the Wii U, the NX, will be a bigger success and hints that affordability will be king.
“So unfortunately with our latest system, the Wii U, the price point was one that ended up getting a little higher than we wanted. But what we are always striving to do is to find a way to take novel technology that we can take and offer it to people at a price that everybody can afford. And in addition to that, rather than going after the high-end tech spec race and trying to create the most powerful console, really what we want to do is try to find a console that has the best balance of features with the best interface that anyone can use.”
“But really what’s most important to us is, how do we create a system that is both unique and affordable so that everyone can afford it and everyone can enjoy it.”
“So I don’t think it’s just price, because if the system is appealing enough, people will buy it even if the price is a little bit high. I think with Wii U, our challenge was that perhaps people didn’t understand the system. But also I think that we had a system that’s very unique — and, particularly with video game systems, typically it takes the game system a while to boot up. And we thought that with a tablet-type functionality connected to the system, you could have the rapid boot-up of tablet-type functionality, you could have the convenience of having that touch control with you there on the couch while you’re playing on a device that’s connected to the TV, and it would be a very unique system that could introduce some unique styles of play.”
“I think unfortunately what ended up happening was that tablets themselves appeared in the marketplace and evolved very, very rapidly, and unfortunately the Wii system launched at a time where the uniqueness of those features were perhaps not as strong as they were when we had first begun developing them. So what I think is unique about Nintendo is we’re constantly trying to do unique and different things. Sometimes they work, and sometimes they’re not as big of a hit as we would like to hope. After Wii U, we’re hoping that next time it will be a very big hit.”
Thanks, Shuhei Yoshida
I blame it on poor advertising and marketing. But to each their own…
Also, inb4 trolls and haters of the Wii U saying havr the Wii U sucks.(I’m not one of them.)
*How. As in, HOW did I get havr, out of how???
I get your points, they went all-out on Splatoon, but didn’t do it as well as the Wii U.
Hope the NX will be successfully marketed
>>>They should start marketing it from time to time the minute it gets an official name, just teasers on TV and posters or whatever with the logo here and there, and once it’s released, market the best you possibly can across all territories, mainly the west>>>
Exactly. I say, About a month before launch, advertise plenty on T.V and have billboard advertisements around everywhere. And when it comes out, advertise like crazy, across many different channels and demographics, to get in a great start. And if they get a great start, then don’t stop advertising like crazy, but if it’s off to a shaky start, then advertise even more.
I agree. Advertising the NX during the Superbowl with lots of hype surrounding it would be ingenious because of the enormous amount of people that watches that event. I feel that the NX has to have a selling feature, like perhaps giving it the ability to upscale games in 4K resolutions. This is the time when Nintendo needs to usher in the next generation of gaming. A solid launch lineup of 1st party heavy hitters, a robust online interface and unprecedented 3rd party support would make the NX the SNES of next generation
>>>And once the NX has a flying start, don’t make the same mistake by putting online multiplayer games on handhelds instead of the main console, assuming the NX truly is the next home console>>>
>>>And all other current problems of course have to be rectified with a vengeance>>>
I think the selling feature of the NX hast to be 3rd party support in addition to what Wii U is currently offering. That’s all it needs to succeed. And of course I must be at least as powerful as the PS4, otherwise it will be left behind very soon imo.
>>>I think what’s more important is to sell what they failed to do so with the Wii U in terms of big titles from the empire>>>
Plz no, by the time the NeXt Nintendo console is released the Ps4 would most likely be 4 years old. The system will need to be more powerful than the Ps4, and close enough to expected new consoles, or there will be no 3rd party support.
Nobody is buying another Nintendo system that’s as powerful as ps4, it has to compete with ps5. Otherwise what’s the point. They screwed us already I don’t want to be screwed again and won’t be. Sounds like they wanna go cheap again which means nobody will want it. Their idiots. The price point is high cause you get a stupid gamepad that most people don’t care about instead of a more powerful system. THATS why nobody bought it. Nintendo only fans can’t keep Nintendo going Wii u has proved this. They need others to want their system and unless they are willing to put up the money and make a real powerful system they ain’t getting anyone from Sony and Microsoft to hop on.
“They need others to want their system and unless they are willing to put up the money and make a real powerful system they ain’t getting anyone from Sony and Microsoft to hop on.” Yeah. And this includes me as well. They messed up big time with the Wii U. Before this generation started, I was gonna consider getting a PS3 instead because I was afraid I’d have to go through more disappointment if I got a Wii U. But I gave Nintendo another chance and got it when it launched. Big mistake. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me! I’m gonna wait it out when the NX releases. I’m NOT jumping aboard the train of disappointment for a third time. Lmao.
Right there with you, for the first time ever I won’t be excited for day one release. And that’s gonna hurt their launch sales cause lots of people have caught on. Fanboys like Nintendo Dark Ingsmasher will be first in line though to slurp up whatever scraps nintendo offers.
I don’t think the NX will be the machine you think it will be. :/
After reading that I sadly don’t think it will be either. The keeping of such a low price point bothers me. How can you make a gaming system thats near or better than the competition without having some high cost. I don’t honestly believe that tablets are taking the place of gaming consoles, on any level. I see what people are “playing” on these devices a lot, I wouldn’t call them games so much as time killers. I own a kindle fire with no games on it at all, by choice. The NX is going to have to be a beast. Its going to be sad, I honestly think he just gave away their whole strategy, another system that isn’t on par with the competition.
That’s what I heard him say…but I really hope I’m wrong, and he’s just making shit up… I mean…it’s early. We can cross our fingers, but I’m not holding my breath.
The part I pointed out was said after the part you pointed out thus meaning he contradicted himself which is my point was so I wasn’t trying to skip over anything. And besides, just because he wants the system to be affordable doesn’t mean it will be. Case and point, look at the Wii U. It was $349.99 at launch and Miyamoto was saying of the same things about they wanted ” Project Cafè ” (the code name of the Wii U) to be affordable as he is doing about the NX but we shall see at E3 next year what the real story really is
” So I don’t think it’s just price, because if the system is appealing enough, people will buy it even if the price is a little bit high. ”
Come again? Can’t you see how he contradicted himself? He doesn’t really know if it’s gonna be an affordable system or not. If it’s indeed that rumored handheld/home console hybrid system, I guarantee you it won’t be affordable unless it’s totally stripped down which I highly doubt
“But really what’s most important to us is, how do we create a system that is both unique and affordable so that everyone can afford it and everyone can enjoy it.”
You skimmed too fast and missed that part, it’s cool, it was a long article. Fir ‘everyone’ to afford it, they will not be making a powerhouse, in case that needs spelled out for ya.
If they release a console now that is on par with the Ps4, they haven’t learned anything.
I certainly don’t care what it is or how great it’ll be. I’m finished with Nintendo.
Yes yes, you keep telling us that.
May I ask what you do for a living? You respond to articles so fast! I always see you on here. My job prevents me from being online so I can’t comment as much as I like to.
>>>I’m on holidays right now but will soon start studying again by my own until the new semester begins, in the Real Realm I’m studying Astronomy and Astrophysics>>>
Nice!! I LOVE science!! I originally was in geophysics, but switched to business and ecommerce marketing. Science will always be my first love tho.
And I REALLY should not be commenting as much as I do. E3 is over and I’m buried in work. Lol XD
>>>I won’t comment as frequently either once the new semester is on, but of course, I have a war to attend to sometimes>>>
Robots don’t study or go to school silly they just install new programs and software.
>>>You didn’t read carefully enough>>>
Well the fact that they just dropped they won’t be chasing higher end specs to compete with ps4 and xone is a little disheartening… Nintendo continues to ignore their fans and it looks like they haven’t learned their lesson.
Honestly! But also looking at how the PS4 is selling (nothing really special going from PS3 to 4, no backwards compatibility, boring controller, little media features compared to Xbox one, high price, and limited exclusives with limited verity,) yet sells the most of the 3 systems. So clearly the NX platform (it seams to be a handheld and a home system) 1) switch to X64 and X86 (respectively) 2) focus on making it easy to develop for (bring down costs, and dev time, and easy to port, and add updates/dlc) 3) advertise and not only change branding (seems they are) but stress these are new systems that are able to play the new and same games as ps4/xbox one. 4) back away from some new controller, and just updates the ones they have, make them better, and add new features. Then maybe work on VR/AR
He’s partially right.
The worst problem:
-One of my aunts broke the liquid crystals of my GamePad by ”throwing” it on the ground by accident… it still works, but i have no display beside a black screen with a white broken windom pattern.
-I CAN’T buy any used GamePad to replace it.
Price of a new one from Nintendo: 175$
Price to repair my broken one: 150$
NO, I won’t pay another 250$ for a WiiU just for a tablet controller in good condition.
I may love Nintendo, but you’d have to be BLIND and RETARDED to say this was a good marketing decision.
yep gamepad is awesome but they made it to pricey, hard to get hold off and did’nt utilize it right, they also utilizied it in some ridiculous ways I left my gamepad at a friends and while the wii U was still usuable I could’nt go online(had recently changed my internet connenction) because you need the gamepad to go through the settings…why the fuck do I need the gamepad to go through the settings! Also just got splatoon …that made it even more annoying
Yeah it was, that and the lack of third party support which, while I don’t think they gave it a fair go(ubisoft got greedy with zombiu’s sale predictions and EA seemed to try to make it fail) nintendo is partly responsible due to the apparently difficult architecture they use which makes it more difficult to port games between the ps4 pc xbone and it, probbly why nintendo games can look as good as xbone or ps4 games while alot of the third partys look like garbage.
The price point is fine hell they could do with making a slightly more powerful console and get away with a slightly higher price point.
but if this is what they think the issue is it worries me about what they are doing with the NX.
Also this sounds to me like the gamepad might not be a feature in the next console which is..depressing to say the least, its my favorite controller and has severely been underutilized barring a few games.
We all hope the NX will be a success
If they advertise it a lot, then it will be a success. If they don’t, then they haven’t learnt their lesson…
>>>And will be the end for them in the west>>>
Advertising alone won’t help if it’s not powerful enough to compete with NEXT gen. If it’s on par with ps4, it certainly won’t sell. What idiot would buy two systems in the same gen just to get one on par with everyone else? I’m sorry but that is truly idiotic and nobody should let Nintendo get away with that. They have already given up on the u so they already screwed over fans who bought it. Those fans are all pissed right about now and they aren’t gonna forget that come nx time. Giving us a system on par with current gen would be another screw over. And nobody should support that kind of practice from them. They aren’t treating fans well at all. And I’m not a hater just being real with what’s happened. I used to respect Nintendo but this whole gen has really turned me off on top of last gen. This gen they seemed like they wanted to make it up to the hardcore and please their fans again but they still aren’t listening.
It sounds like they won’t be going for strong hardware this time around either.
Miyamoto, please don’t bullshit for Iwata and Reggie…
It’s their fault for making the system weak.
It’s their fault for not making the advertising for the system.
It’s their fault for not allowing fan feedback on the system.
It’s not your fault, it’s your bosses’ faults.
Complaining about one of Wii U’s glaring problems is defending their bullshit? The high price of Wii U, for what it has, was one of its faults and tablets..not sure what he was referring too but if he meant popular tablets like iPads eclipsed Wii U, then that’s also true because that’s the exact point of how they lost their casual audience.
Kinda worried for the NX, but I’m hoping that Nintendo hits the jackpot with its design this time and PLEASE don’t sacrifice too much power because these days power is very affordable to begin with. For companies especially.
The NX will come ouv late next year and will be more powerful than the PS4. Looking forwart to the damage control from Sony fanboys.
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Sadly, it won’t make a difference even if it has more power. The baseline for game development now is the power from PS4 and Xbox One. Developers won’t be able to fully maximize the power. Also, I’m skeptical about Nintendo. They are so stubborn to listen to their fans that NX won’t be a direct competitor to PS4 and XBox One.
If third parties still say no to nintendo then they are straight up frauds.
Hopefully Nintendo learned from this round. Evidently they created the hardware and then once everything was basically written in stone, they threw out dev kits to some studios and hoped for the best.
One of the reasons why the PS4 and Xbox One are so successful with third parties is because they took the time to sit down with several dev studios prior to making the systems and kept them in the loop during the development process. MS and Sony wanted to find out what worked best for them and what devs wanted from a new console. This is also the reason they have such similar architectures to PC’s.
They don’t have to make a system like a PC, but if Nintendo has that approach this time, then we’re likely to see a lot more third party dev support.
>>>Didn’t Nintendo do the same thing with the Wii U during its development? I read/heard somewhere years ago that High Command contacted them and got feedback from them aswell>>>
I say in 2017 and I agree, it will be at least on par with the PS4 in terms of power. And if the PS4 and Xbox One’s lifecycle last the same as the PS3 and Xbox 360, then the NX’s Successor will then come out about a year after the PS5 and the Xbox Something or Other, which would mean that in terms of Console Power, the NX will only need to be as powerful as the PS4 and Xbox One, because that is what it would be ‘competing’ against.
>>>Assuming there is going to be any PS5 since there are rumours that their next generation is going to be based on the “Cloud System”>>>
nope they can’t compete with ps4 with a system on par. They will lose. They lost with Wii I they certainly won’t win with a second system in the same gen that is on par with ps4. And by your math the next system would be out in 2021 which would mean only four years for nx. Last gen was seven years so seven years this gen puts us at 2020 for next gen and 2021 for the next Nintendo. They can’t have three systems released in nine years. That’s just terrible.
How do you know the NX is coming out next year? It’s probably not. The NX shouldn’t have been announced in the first place, they only did it to calm fans when they announced mobile that they weren’t stopping consoles. They’re gonna show a bit of the NX next year, but that doesn’t guarantee it’s gonna come next year at all
It will dude. The Wii U hasn’t even sold 10 million yet and it’s been nearly 3 years. They didn’t even show a glimpse of a big new Wii U game at E3 and they normally would. They’re a business at the end of the day and they need to make money.
It’s not being abandoned just because they showcased games that are coming soon instead of the biggies they are holding for bigger announcements. Nintendo, no matter what, can’t just kick the Wii U owners in the ass. I have my bets the NX will come out in late 2017. In time to after Zelda U and all the biggest hits that showcase the console. :T
Nintendo won’t care about losing the odd Wii U consumer because the install base is that small.
Yet, it’s their best be audience for NX. The PSOne people already have a console that will last them this generation, and have little to no incentive to invest in another.
lol, they won’t treat us current wii u owners any better than potential new nx owners. We aren’t on any kind of pedestal, it’s a business. They aren’t your friends.
They drug their core gamers through ass-graphics for nearly 8 years…don’t think for a moment they wouldn’t do it again! (not quite the same situation…so I guess maybe..)
Yea, Nintendo definitely wouldn’t care about losing their most loyal supporters. /s
…Actually, after their E3 presentation, I’m not even sure if I should be sarcastic about that statement at this point; you could be right, maybe they really won’t even care.
>>>If they didn’t care, we wouldn’t have gotten games like Majora’s Mask since many fans wanted it for years and then it happened, and then surprises from time to time like Kid Icarus Uprising and DKCR>>>
>>>Because if they truly didn’t care, us most loyal ones would one by one start spreading a bad image of the empire telling others to not fall for their bad business practices as it would be foolish to invest in them on anything for a long period of time>>>
If they truly cared, they would have remade it for the WiiU, because actually, people asked for an HD remake. But Nintendo, of course, remade it for the 3DS because guaranteed cash.
Don’t get me wrong, I usually think it’s very understandable when developers take decisions that are most profitable for them in the end, but for a giant company like Nintendo that already makes heaps of money through the 3DS, I would have expected them to listen to their fans a bit more carefully.
>>I’d say it was a tie, I saw many wanting it for the 3DS aswell, me among them, not because I didn’t want it on the Wii U but I wanted the OoT treatment on the 3DS with the 3D>>>
I personally mostly saw people asking for a WiiU version, as the original MM was also designed for a home console, but that’s just me, of course.
@Namie Agreed. Majora’s Mask would’ve benefited greatly from getting the HD treatment. But, as usual, the Nintendo 3DS, the spoiled child in the Nintendo family, gets all the good stuff.
I won’t lie. I lived having Oot and MM in 3D on the go! Sorry!
I think you both have a point.
I will agree they cared enough that I got MM, and coincidentally, I wanted it for the 3DS. Both legendary Zelda games, both in 3D. Both digital and I can play anytime.
That said, they could have easily released it on the WiiU, because it already existed on the Wii. – actually, I don’t know if you still can, but I own it in the Wii shop, so I can play it on my WiiU anytime I want from there…might be why they didn’t release another WiiU version?
Yup I haven’t even touched it on 3ds cause I wanted hd.
Yea, same here.
They SHOULDN’T kick us in the ass but it seems very likely they are. Time will tell of course but I have my bets on them fucking us sadly.
Man…you have no idea what you’re talking about. Name one time Nintendo has EVER fucked over it’s fans? Hmm??
(Besides No Metroid, party-game Zelda and animal crossing, the 3DS launch, the WiiU launch, losing 3rd party support, not admitting their mistakes, creating half-baked software and calling “finishing the game” as “free DLC”, ignoring fans, apologizing at least once a month, never keeping their word, offering no hope for the future of gaming) besides that, when has Nintendo Ever fucked us over? Geezz.
Lol I thought you were serious at first then I saw who it was responding
Lol. :]
Wii U sales were at 9.5 million in December. It’s well over 10 million at this point
It’s been hit 10 million. It’s was like 9.75 mill back in December.
It won’t. Trust me. Nintendo will pull this Wii through the sand like the Wii before it.
Everyone isn’t listening. Nintendo doesn’t think anything is wrong with the wiiu. They don’t think power is an issue. Everyone really needs to stop setting themselves up for epic disappointment.
The thing is, the Wii (before) sold a crap ton more than the Wii U. It was the best selling system last gen. So of course they kept milking that puppy until it was dry.
Yeah. I’ll give you that. I still don’t expect a “mercy kill” order on the WiiU tho. We’ll see!
I disagree. He said Nothing about “power” being any kind of issue, and certainly not one Nintendo percieves to be a problem.
We are all (Ninty fans) screwed. :'(
Why would anyone damage control it? If it came out next year, which I believe is very unlikely to happen, it would still be 3 years after the launch of the PS4 + XB1, so it should be taken for granted for the console to be more powerful than the competition. Otherwise, Nintendo would just make a joke out of themselves once again.
Yeah it’s been nearly 3 years and I have one good exclusive for the ps4, Bloodborne. Most of the multiplats are trash. I only have alien: isolation, gta v and the witcher 3 (which I got for free and it’s crap). What a fantastic gen so far.
Emphasis on *you*. Just because you personally can’t find many games that suit your taste, doesn’t mean there are no games. I have way more games on my PS4 than on my WiiU. So? Does that mean the WiiU has no games?
Also, it’s honestly a bit hard to take your comment seriously when you say The Witcher 3 is trash, because in my opinion, it’s an absolutely enjoyable game. But that’s just me, I suppose.
Well I don’t buy shit from EA, Activision or Ubisoft so there’s a bunch of mediocre games you may have bought. What multiplats do you have?
True, I have bought and played games from those developers, but I definitely didn’t find all of them to be mediocre.
But yea, as far as multiplats go, I have physical copies of The Witcher 3 (obviously), Watch Dogs, which I honestly didn’t find to be as terrible as people try to make it be, Destiny, Battlefield, FF Type-0, Shadow of Mordor. Would have bought GTA V as well, but I already have it on PS3, so I didn’t find it to be worth it to pay another 60€ for basically the same game. I also have a couple of digital downloads, which aren’t AAA titles though, so there probably isn’t much of a point in mentioning them.
Would have bought games like Far Cry 4 too, but luckily a close friend of mine also has a PS4 and we switch up games, so fortunately, I don’t have to actually buy every single game I’m interested in.
On a side note, it hasn’t even been 2 years, let alone 3, since the release of the PS4 and XB1 – they came out in November 2013. :)
Are you male or female?
Oh? I’m female. Why do you ask?
He likes you :p
Hah, how flattering. :p
Hehehe
Why you looking forward to their damage control when Sony will just make the PS5 more powerful than NX?
More like summer or fall of 2017, but yes lets hope
I dont mind low specs, what im concerned though is that im fearing that the next system will be casual oriented. WiiU doesnt have most powerful hardware but atleast the gamepad controller makes it more core gaming oriented platform than lets say the original Wii was. I hope they manage to find a balance that will satisfy us core fans and mass market but after seeing those disasters Federation craps and Zelda fashion party, i have a bad feeling where they are going to. Just to make clear im still holding a hope that NX will be the dream system for core Nintendo experience with true MetroidPrime and such.
>>>Lord Miyamoto said he was tired of appealing our sacred machines to the civilian cattle, I hope they weren’t just empty words and that he tries to steer the warrior path as the main focus>>>
He said that before the launch of the WiiU…and then made all our IP’s into party games.
You really need to re-evaluate how reliable your sources are…(I.E. ‘High Command) – they feed you propaganda, then do the opposite behind your back.
>>>This isn’t “before the Wii U launch”>>>
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/08/31/nintendos-miyamoto-talks-passive-attitude-of-casual-gamers-its-a-pathetic-thing/
http://wiiudaily.com/2012/05/wii-u-will-cater-to-core-gamers-first-says-nintendo/
http://mynintendonews.com/2012/05/02/wii-u-will-cater-to-the-hardcore-gamers-first-mass-market-second/
Forgot to read these then?
We are fucked. Period.
>>>And about 1 year later he changed his mind>>>
EXACTLY. So if you think anything he says is reliable or something you can count on, you can’t!
That’s what I’m saying. He said the WiiU would cater to it’s core gamers first, and Mass Market Second…well, I think we all saw what happened at E3.
I’m not saying anything about you being wrong, I am saying that if you get bad data, you can’t make reliable predictions…And if one thing is glaringly obvious…the NX isn’t for old-school gamers like me. It’s going to be for the new, casual, family, mobile gen. The people they discovered when the Wii printed money.
The Wii infected them, and they are not going to cater for hardcore gamer any more. Not with WiiU as they promised. Not with NX as you all hope.
It’s so much easier to jist except this now instead of being epically disappointed later.
And you know what? Nintendo might be fine! They may dominate the mobile market, let people play mobile games on the NX handheld/console /mobile hybrid (or whatever it is) – families, kids of all ages and many adults will love these bite-sized party gamez they can play on the go.
And I’ll see one Zelda, if I’m lucky, a Metroid in 3-4 years…then that’s it. I think the old days are done.
>>>I didn’t care about the first data because I did not believe in it, so you see, I’m not 100% following command>>>
>>>But when you look at the results, they seem to have switched places going by his first orders>>>
>>>Let’s hope we are all wrong when it comes to our “negative assumptions” about the empire>>>
>>>But if it comes true, I’ll join the Master Race forever and destroy the 3 of them>>>
I’ll drink to that!
Here’s hoping we’re wrong about our negative assumptions. I’ll drink beer from my shoe and happily admit I was wrong. ;)
>>>I’m “Batman” you’re “Robin”, just something fun fitting your reply just now and just switch Harvey with “Nintendo” *wink*>>>
https://youtu.be/HmfcpnZUFfY?t=2m28s
Yeah. Better to prepare ourselves for epic disappoint now & end up being happily wrong then to expect epic awesomeness only to be painfully disappointed. But iceazeama expected the worse for this year’s E3 only to get a massive shock: it was much, much worse than the worse he expected. :/ But yeah. Let’s hope everything negative we are thinking of right now ends up being wrong next month.
next year.*
I used to think Ice was a clever troll, turns out he was right the whole time.
Yea ice is great lol I always misjudged him at first but became friends with him and probably have deeper talks with him than anyone on here. He’s actually a real cool guy he just saw the writing on the wall before others.
Don’t forget Donko, aka God of the New World. >..<
Yea same with him I used to think he was a troll and for the last six months I’ve come to see he’s not at all. He’s just where we are at, tired of arguing with blind fanboys who won’t listen to reason.
He said it before and after launch so it tells me it’s all bs
He said that but they still do
>>>Of course they do, they aren’t just going to 100% forget about it, my point is, they focused more on the core gamers a lot later than they did with the civilians which goes against his lordship’s statement>>>
Please Nintendo PLEASE don’t make another low-power mess. The ps4 is currently the most expensive console and at the moment it’s still on top. Make a powerful console to compete with the ps5 and the next Xbox where consumers can get amazing first party games and capable third party games. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MARKET THE DAMN THING RIGHT! Stop pointing fingers at other things for your own mistakes. Make the thing your customers will want, cause that’s what people will pay for.
WIIU IS HEADING IN THE DIRRECTION OF NX
ADMIT THIS NINTENDO IT WAS TRANSITION TIME WIIU HINTS AT NX AS DOES WII DS
THERE LAST CPL OF YEARS AVE BERN TRANSITION INTO A UNIFED ENVIREMENT ALL WORKING TOGETHER….
EVEN BEFORE WIIU RELEASED IWATA SAID ARE NEXT SYSTEM AFTER WIIU WILL BE VERY SPECIAL
with a new os a unified development system and a nx innovation i think there wiiu got neglected a bit
there next big mario game was never for wiiu its for NX that was so obvious by what they were saying
Wii U was poorly marketed, doesn’t take a genius to figure that out.
Also, sounds like the NX won’t be the PS4 clone that some were hoping for, despite Nintendo repeatedly stating that they’re not in the spec race.
Nobody with a brain is hoping nx will be a ps4 clone. The intelligent people want it more powerful than ps4 and able to compete with ps5.
Actually Iwata said after the Wii u started off bad that they could no longer afford to not compete.
“really what we want to do is try to find a console that has the best balance of features with the best interface that anyone can use.”
Good job so far on that. The control scheme for Star Fox Zero definitely doesn’t look like a total clusterfuck where you’re trying to overreach to show off how great the gamepad is.
“…think that we had a system that’s very unique”
Yeah, a non-portable version of the DS. Woo. (And yeah it’s technically “portable”, so don’t give me that bullshit – any console can be “portable” if you carry around a screen for it and have a place to plug it in).
“So what I think is unique about Nintendo is we’re constantly trying to do unique and different things. ”
NO. STOP IT. JUST GIVE ME A SYSTEM WITH A REGULAR CONTROLLER WHERE I CAN PLAY YOUR GAMES. DON’T TRY TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. JUST MAKE IT RUN SMOOTH. Hurrr. Innovation can work when it’s not force fed to you and makes sense. Having a giant tablet controller is dumb. The majority of ways in which it was incorporated was as a map, or inventory, or some other stupid shit. When you don’t know how to make the selling point of your new console sell the console, YOU’RE FUCKED.
Little angery dude? Having a map on the second screen helps a lot actually…in a game that you have to constantly hit the map button and wait a little to long for it to pop up…I agree with you though, just a map? Needs to be more than that…but when you get used to just a map, and move to another system I found I really missed it.
I’ll hold out hope for Star Fox…there have been some dream control schemes they have developed the last few years..but they do have to be learned, and sometimes being good at games does not mean your good at motion controls…takes some work, and the patience of today’s generation is a little thin..
I do think the NX will at least be based off a slightly stronger version I wii U hardware…for backwards compatibility…to many amazing games the wii U has that some people will never play
The problem was price, marketing, advertising, day 01 line up and the name. I’ll buy Nintendo’s systems regardless anyways lol
LOL. “I’ll buy it just because it’s Nintendo”
Fanboys, man. It’s incredible how loyal they are to a company that doesn’t even care about them.
+1 for proving my point.
Yup they are why Nintendo has turned to shit and is currently in transition to diarrhea mode.
Dang, it felt like he said “unfortunately” a 100 times xD.
It’s the new way to say Please Understand :p
“Unfortunately, you unfortunately will have to unfortunately please unfortunately understand, unfortunately, so, unfortunately, that we can unfortunately not unfortunately say ‘Please understand’ as much… Unfortunately…”
Hahahaha
They should be saying “Please understand, we fucked up. We are very, very sorry. Now excuse me while I make my apology null & void as I fuck up YET AGAIN!!”
Umm. Here’s what I read between the lines, “We’re not making a stronger console. A console needs to be inexpensive and gimicky. Expect no 3rd party support for the rest of our console-building lives.”
Now…I hate the word “gimick,” because all systems have them, and I’m a huge fan of the gamepad…but everything he just said gave me NO feeling that they understand what gamers want in a console. Instead of a $350-$400 Nintendo powerhouse, we’ll get another cheap machine, one that probably plays mobile games.
Fuck, they may move all their IP’s mobile so it plays on NX, Tablets or phones…
Shit, I’m kinda scared right now. D:
If they stuff up with the nx then Iwata and others will be gone.
>>>There is one thing improving what they are bad at and there is another wanting them to be like the other 2 imbeciles were they thrive the most because of the Third Class imbeciles and not by their own>>>
>>>It seems some of you want the empire to become exactly like the other 2, just make a slightly more powerful console for the 9th war than the Wii U was for this one and market the holy N out of it while improving the online servers by focusing the resources on it instead of a too innovative power consuming controller that doesn’t get used to its fullest potential>>>
>>>But most importantly of all besides our own games, make it easier for the lazy empires to make games and invest in some potential exclusive weaponry just like with Bayonetta>>>
I want a gaming machine with more than one game ever few months. I don’t care for kirby, DK, Yoshi, Mario… Since Nintendo won’t produce a console Metroid, and I have to wait 3+ years for each zelda, we NEED a machine 3rd parties will develop on. And if the NX won’t boast enough power for 3rd party devs, and Nintendo is resolve to develop small, party and mobile games…then they are no longer the company they were.
I’ll just play my gamecube…Eternal Darkness, Rogue Squadron, Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime, PN03, and pretend Nintendo is hardcore again. :/
My WiiU will be for X, ZombiU, Mass Effect, Black Flag, Blacklist…but It has No Nintendo IP’s I give a shit about.
IDK, I get it. Nintendo is moving on to mobile-casual. There’s probably $$$ there for them.
Based on what Reggie said, The NX will not be what I want. No PS4 rival, no powerful machine for modern Nintendo IP’s…It Might be a little stronger than the PS4/ONE, and I know I will Love the next Zelda…but, maybe I’m the one that’s outdated. I want Nintendo to blow away the competition, squash them with technological muscle, but the Wii-infection has taken hold. They believe having a powerful console is a waste of money. So IDK. I need to just move on. I’ll probably get a Cheap XB1 in a year or so, continue to buy Nintendo handhelds and find other hobbies.
I’d like to write a book, start a youtube channel…Nintendo moving away from it’s past hardcore fanbase might be a blessing in disguise for me.
>>>The problem is not entirely Nintendo’s fault when it comes to non Nintendo titles though, equal at fault or the others for being lazy and releasing half-made games or incomplete ones because they know the idiots out there will still buy them because of graphics and cinematic trailers>>>
>>>If Shin’en can make such great games with limited manpower and resources, why can’t the bigger ones do that to having so much more resources?>>>
I agree. It’s not all Nintendo’s fault. But they are captain of their ship, so they are ultimately responsible for whether it sinks or dominates. Ignoring what their crew wants, making additional crew not want to come onboard…getting to the point original crew is jumping ship…that’s the captain’s fault. If he can’t control his crew, he needs to step down, or there needs to be a mutiny. I’m in favor of the later. >;D
Yes! Time to make Reggie AND Iwata walk the plank before they take us all fucking down with them chasing after that god damn massive white whale! We’re being led by two Ahabs! 3 if Miyamoto is by some horrible chance part of the problem! D: (I hope not. That would be painful if even our precious Lord Miyamoto is turning his back on us.)
>>>Nominate me for Supreme Leader and I’ll end the Xbot infection one day>>>
There IS no potential for the gamepad besides maps and such. Gyro aiming just doesn’t work. And since when didn’t innovation become nintendos thing until the Wii when they went casual? They were ALWAYS about power before.
>>>And yet most went to the Sonyans for reasons like DVD and cheaper price tag, not games, and I fins it amusing how people say it’s all about games and yet the Gamecube and N64 had the best games to offer overall and still they went to the Sonyans because of multimedia nonsense>>>
>>>If there is one thing that ruined gaming, it’s the Xbots, as they “perfected” the multimedia nonsense in the gaming world taking the empire’s weak deluded gamers into their own misguided agenda>>>
LOL what are you talking about? The PS2 had awesome games.
>>>Yes but it wasn’t the primary reason to why gamers bought it in the first place, not until at least 2 years later when it had a big selection of the greater titles>>>
>>>Everywhere I looked and asked people, about 70-80% said they bought https://widgets.wp.com/notifications/1917366679#a PS2 primarily because of DVD and the cheaper price>>>
I never cared about having a dvd player so I was a gamecube man
Same here. I never even got a PS2 til the late 2000s & that was because I was staying at someone’s house who had a PS2 & got into Most Wanted, Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2, & Final Fantasy X, so I needed my own to finish those games. If only Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 Final Mix and Final Fantasy X & X-2 in HD ended up on the PS4, instead of the PS3, I would have gotten that console a hell of a lot sooner.
You talk so much about casual cattle yet you praise nintendos “innovations” when they only “innovated” the last two gens on their CASUAL systems. They have always been about power. They had a slogan for it. They had a magazine named after it. How long you been gaming son?? True Nintendo fans have ALWAYS enjoyed a more powerful system since NES. It wasn’t the only thing but you’re a damn liar if you think every kid growing up didn’t wait for the SNES and N64 and such to see how much better Mario looked. And motion controls or gamepads were needed to innovate. The best Mario games and Zelda games are still on the non “innovative” systems. Cause they focused on power and gameplay instead of trying to add new control types and such. Please list ten good uses for gaming the gamepad offers. Maps and inventory aren’t even close to worth having it so if that’s all you got then no. It’s not worth the hit in power for something that’s best use is for Internet browsing.
>>>I’v enever praised their “innovations” certainly not the Wii U Gamepad and I’ve mentioned it countless of times ever since I got my own Wii U>>>
>>>And I’ve been with Nintendo basically my entire existence, since the Game&Watch, I don’t count their first consoles as they weren’t big hitters>>>
>>>And although the empire always had the more powerful consoles, gamers betrayed them as well when they went over to the Sonyans because of DVD nonsense and when the Gamecube failed to attract gamers in a larger amount despite having superior games and a solid Third Class support, they were forced to invade the cattle, otherwise they wouldn’t even be in the west today>>>
>>>And no, I’m not defending their failures of the 3DS and specially the Wii U despite of what some misguided idiots think>>>
I don’t want the Gamepad to be dropped. If anything, it should be an optional side controller (optional so if the Gamepad ever breaks down, or we intentionally break it because we’re fucking pissed, we won’t be fucked out of the game til we get it fixed) to work with the main controller. I hate the idea of having to scroll through menus again. I’d rather set my pro controller to the side for a few minutes & use a touch screen for that stuff. Oh & it should be an optional main controller for RPG games where you have to focus on a battle menu. Action RPGs like The Last Story won’t need the Gamepad for battle menus since there isn’t much to scroll through. Xenoblade Chronicles, on the other hand, would do well to have the Gamepad as an optional main controller.
If anything, Nintendo can market their next home console with the fact you have a plethora of controllers you can use for the games. If you want motion control, use the Wiimote. If you want touch controls, use the Gamepad. If you hate those, use the new & improved Gamecube controller, renamed the NX (or whatever name the next Nintendo console uses) controller.
If it’s secondary I am fine with that. It’s definitely the best controller for browsing the internet and such by far.
First, Nintendo has to fix the internet browser for the Wii U, though. It’s been giving me trouble for months. (I won’t be surprised if Nintendo intentionally fucked it up, though.) Least the Nintendo n3DS internet browser is better. Now if they could just update the Wii U’s to be more like that.
This is the same feeling I had while reading what he said =/
Maybe they don’t want to make powerful machines afterall, they don’t want to make expensives games, just more simple games and expecting big profits of them..
The platformer genre is enough for me, there are a lot of them on wii u.
I’m kinda saturated and finished with platformers for a while, but omg, if you still like them, the WiiU is a platformer gold-mine! :D
Nintendo, it has nothing to do with the price…you don’t know how to advertise.
>>>I’ll agree with the price in certain areas like South America and Scandinavia as examples, but marketing and getting out game sin time have been the real problems>>>
Why do they always refuse to just own up to their mistakes?
Pride. Foolish pride. *sigh* It’s a deadly sin for a reason, Nintendo!! D:<
The Wii U didn’t have bad marketing whatsoever.
THE WII U DIDN’T RECEIVE ANY MARKETING FROM THE GET GO!!! No real commercials, casual Wii fans being misinformed & confused (they thought the Wii U was a add on to the ORIGINAL NINTENDO Wii via The Game Pad).
The $300 price for a Wii U (No Blu Ray player, No high end resolution in graphics, with a scaled online with limited offerings) is a bit much when compared to M$ & SONYS systems.
This is just too bad for my belived Wii U. Because Nintendo is really doing the right things NOW when it comes to this system Especially with free online with free dlc for the great games.
They need a price drop to $199 to $229 like NOW!!
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I was seriously hoping for someone to post this soon.
no high end resolution in graphics
720p to 1080p is exactly the resolution of tv sets YOU ASSHOLE
support for muipul screens
the most advanced controllers in existence
a free packaged game
free online
i dont seevyour point at all
my vision on nx is a new wiiu with a new gamepad thats also a handheld
or a handheld that docks
I say, keep all of that, the free online, free pack in game, backwards compatibility with Wii U games, but the controller should be a proper controller, like the awesome Gamecube controller and the Virtual Console should have plenty of games coming out every week, as a opposed to 1 or 2 a week and th Gamepad should be a compatible controller, so those that own a Wii U and an NX, can use that Gamepad whenever they want.
Its gonna be hard going back if they don’t have something like the game pad. I use it all the time with the system and my own TV. Even use it to mess around sketch sometimes, when not doing work.
THE WORD GIMMICK IS A DEFENSIVE WORD USED BY CASUALS
THERE REAL MEANING IS INTIMIDTION BEING INTIMIDATED, GAMEPADS ADVANCED NATURE INTIMIDATES THEM
WII REMOTE PLUS 3D MOUSE INTIMIDATES THEM, THEY ARE BRAINLESS SCREWBALLS WHO CANNOT SEE PAST A PS1 CONTROLLER
THERE THE CASUALS AND THE INDUSTRY REFUSES TO MOVE FORWARD MORE CUT SCENES LESS CONTROL-GAMEPLAY
HAVING MOUSE POINTERS -GYROS TOUCH SCREENS-CONTRLLER CHOICES-MUTIPUL CONTROLLER SUPPORT-OFF TV PLAY -MULTIPLAYER MULTI SCREEN
TOUCH SCREEN WEB BROWSERS ETC ETC ETC ETC
IS NOT A GIMMICK ITS A EVOLUTION IN EXPERIENCE AND ABILLITY
IF YOU THINK TWIDDLING A STICK AND AEHING BUTTONS ONLY IS MODDEN GAMING
YOU ARE A INTIMIDATED CASUAL
Such the fuck up you casual asstard. Wii remotes and gamepad are casual and I’ll whoop your ass in any game with any set up. You teenage casual clusterfuck.
gyro mouse is amazing
wii remote mouse is amazing
controler ased in game sound is amazing
dual screen is amazing
having controller choices is amazing
having controllers tht revolutionize gming is amazing
hving a box and a dualshock is PREISTORIC AND LAME
Fuck off loser you suck at games and you suck at Nintendos dick.
This guy is so clueless and behind the times it makes me sick. I respect what he has done to the industry but he’s stuck in the stone age.
What Nintendo needs to 100% do is to make sure that their next console comes out with some big heavy hitters. If the next console is or not backwards compatible? Having the new wii u Zelda on it at launch with upgraded graphics would get the hype train rolling. New 3D Metroid game at launch or close to launch. Nintendo needs to stay far away from a Mario side scrolling game at launch at all costs and come out ready to take over the gaming world with a new open world 3D Mario game like Mario 64 but on a much bigger scale. Have as good or better specs then the ps4. Nintendo needs to push hard for 3rd party games. 3rd party is most deffinately needed if they dont want to repeat the wii u experience where owners of the system end up in a game draught while waiting for more games to play. Nintendo struck gold with the wii but with what they have experienced with the Wii u I hope they realize that trying to get that magic back will not work if the next system has lower specs then the ps4/xbox. Once the ps4 and xbox came out the Wii u lost allot of attention. It is very difficult to be in the HD console gaming world now a days if your system has lower specs then the console front runners, the only reason Nintendo can somewhat get away with it is because of all their unforgettable ips that so many crave. Go big Nintendo!
Somebody slap myiamoto and give him a toothbrush for his nasty brown teeth. Now back to the matter what people want is a mode powerful system sad but true no gimmicks better online like party chat so we do not feel like we’re playing verse robots. Oyea and a Normal fucking controller. It’s not a hard people love ur games and they would enjoy them more if u added more online and normal controls.
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*facepalm* It was your high price point PLUS inferior hardware.
This is Miyamoto essentially saying they’re going to release another weak system…a system that 3rd parties aren’t going to go through the trouble of optimizing for. NOBODY ASKED FOR THAT!
IT ISN’T HARD NINTENDO! YOU ARE COMPLETELY ALIENATING YOUR CORE FANBASE! I get that you can’t make us happy all of the time, but once you lose you’re fanbase, you’ve lost the pounding heart of what makes you great in the eyes of others.
Totally agree.
Well said. Its amazing that some people would not want the technological advances for Nintendo’s hardware. It makes no sense…
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Bad branding and bad marketing, essentially
affordable… NO NINTEDO THAT IS NOT THE PROBLEM >:(
Then you think about the price of NX, as you not have done on the Wii U, unfortunately,
I dont think it was advertisement like so many people keep saying. Everybody knows about the Wii U now. Everybody, even moms. I saw a mom in Walmart the other day and she was fully aware that the Wii U was a seperate console.
But people are still not buying it. The problem with the Wii stems from it’s name, launch titles, it’s power, and its lack of third party support..
There’s not a darn thing wrong with the Wii U’s power (aside from the low-memory hard drive). The games look AMAZING! Do people need glasses?
But there is a problem with the power. Third parties are not going to take the time or resources to downgrade thier games for the Wii U. I personally think the power is fine with the Wii U, but the fact that its even just a little bit less powerful than the ps4 and xbox one is keeping third party support away. And therein lyes the problem..
It absolutely is the power. It’s last gen compared to the other systems. Wether or not you agree the majority of gamers on all systems seem to agree and sales back that up no matter what your opinion.
Just don’t name it around “wii” or anything like “u”. Nintendo Universe, Nintendo Entertainment System, or etc
holy shit. when are they going to understand that making gimmicks as a primary for their console is what’s hurting them hard. wth is wrong with nintendo.
Yeah. At this point, they should be trying to make their current controllers cheaper & better. Unless they go with VR, the Gamepad should be the last innovation Nintendo makes for a decade or so. At this point, they need to stop innovating & start catching up because the Wii’s weak power is obviously holding Nintendo back.
Because of the Wii’s weakness, they pretty much have been using the Wii U as a prototype of sorts so they can get use to HD.
>>>Power might have some impact but it’s almost insignificant to the real problem, High Command needs to stop being so arrogant, only I’m allowed to be that>>>
Yea by people seem to think power is not the issue. They are the problem as much as Nintendo.
they can innovate, just don’t make it the only reason to get your console.
so poor graphics again… really???
I love Nintendo, I love my Wii U, and I love Miyamoto. But if the price is the reason why the Wii U didn’t sell better, then why the HELL did the PS4 and Xbox One sell like hotcakes, even with the asinine $400 and $500 price tags? WHY? Those prices are total BULL ASS! The Wii U is the most affordable of the three.
? Not to be rude but, seriously? There’s plenty of reasons for people to pick those systems over Wii U. Price isn’t always the issue, it’s a well known fact that you get what you pay for when it comes to Electronics. And in some case’s if you’re paying for something with so many features and extras that works and delivers games that sell and earn fans, then youve done something right. Im not saying Wii U doesn’t do this, but as someone whos been following Nintendo for years and years I don’t feel represented as an older fan in that case. I expect voice chat, I expect the ability to play dvds as im popping off to bed, I expect a company that at least listens to it’s fans regarding graphics and it’s future. But you make a good question for the issue of what really is money when compared to the enjoyment of gaming. I enjoy gaming, I’m willing to burn money on it. So hell….I probably should buy a Wii U just to have one…damn it…
If you don’t have one, in the US you can get a Nintendo Factory Refurb for $200…My brother got one, it arrived pretty much like new and came with Nintendoland.
Just sayin!
Why? Cause that thing you yourself think isn’t important:power. The lack of power IS the reason and when Nintendo realizes this and get back to playing with power, maybe people will pay attention.
Yep. If the Wii U has proven anything, Nintendo needs to go back to caring about power as an integral part of development, not as a backseat part of development with innovation at the forefront. Innovation needs to go back to being the backseat part of development.
Yup I mean come on the writing isn’t just on the wall, it’s all over the internet. People want power, always have. You buy a new system, you expect new better graphics that compete.
I use to think that way about video games that power didn’t mean squat since the Gamecube, being the most powerful console at the time, was the least selling one. Then the success of the Wii. It took for the Wii U to get it’s ass completely demolished by PS4 & XB1 for me to realize that. The “power doesn’t sell” moniker only worked for the last two generations with the addition of discs for games & motion controls.
If Nintendo is ok with settling for third place in graphics, then fans like you and they themselves shouldn’t be surprised when they end in third place. You give us the effort and make a powerful machine, we’ll make the effort of buying. They chose to stop making powerful systems last gen and catered to casuals. You’re like 39 I remember you saying and you’re surprised by this? Have you just been a casual gamer all these years? Cause all other old school gamers are on my side with this.
And that decision with the Wii has haunted Nintendo ever since.
NOOOOO!!! Miyamoto… put POWER before PRICE POINT. People are sick of weak Nintendo hardware. No one buys it anymore.
High price??? The PS4 is at a higher price and it out sold the Wii U. He only understand making games not selling it…
My only real complaint about the Wii U is the hard drives being so small. Even the 32GB model is tiny compared to the PS3’s 500GB drive. I keep having to delete one of my games every time I want to download a new game (like Earthbound Beginnings). And I have the weakest 8GB model. Because I didn’t want black again.
Read the interview so more like lamenting rather than blaming.
Things I think Nintendo needs to implement to make their NeXt home console a success. 1- It’s all in a name, yep change the name. No more Wii, U, Wii 2, none. 2- Power to the people. If the new console releases in 2017 it has to be more powerful than the Ps4, and will need future proofing. (Ps5). 3- Work with the 3rds. Yea, Nintendo doesn’t really need them, but they need them if they want to get more people buying their console. Also, having a more diverse game lineup doesn’t hurt. 4- Keep it simple. There is no need for some weird new device, they need to tweak what they have and use it well. 5- launch with the Great guys. The launch and window should have games like 3d Mario, Metroid, Zelda, and some good eshop games too. 6- Link it. The console should link seamlessly with their handheld, and share games, open extra content and have the same unified account. 7- The price is right. Go for power but keep it in the sweet spot, think more Ps4 and less Ps3. 8- Advertise like it’s the end of the world. Advertise in the right places at the right times, on mature channels, kids channels, billboards, buses, sporting events, anywhere good.
Like WWE Raw & Smackdown, the Superbowl, NBA Playoffs, big Fifa events, the Olympics, MTV Music/Movie Awards, The Oscars, etc etc.
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