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Existing Characters In Smash Bros Wii U And Nintendo 3DS Will Have Lots Of New Moves

Masahiro Sakurai, the director of the Super Smash Bros series, revealed at the CEDEC developer conference this week that the next Smash Bros game for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS will feature lots of new and exciting moves for existing characters. Sakurai also mentioned earlier this week that the game will have a bunch of new characters.

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  1. Oh yes ! Sakurai is working on this game while I work on 200 Mario games for next year ! And sakurai told me he is adding in some GAY moves like link wanking his sword which wil enhance gameplay , that is all Nintendrones ;) Bye.

      1. Hmmm…. my first time being here and it seems like this place updates more than Wii U Daily but this site has more trolls. ILL just ignore them & still go to Wii U Daily. :D

      2. If it is the same game for 3ds and wii u, I am concerned there may be less moves, because there are less buttons on the 3ds. Maybe new moves but different gameplay… I don’t know about you but I would love a ssb64 remake with online capability for 3ds and new ssbu

    1. Don’t you think it’s just a bit sad how such a long comment was typed out before anyone could write ‘first’?

    2. Nintedward . Wiiu . 3ds . 1991 .

      stfu troll. who is still playing brawl 4 years later ????. this is the most exciting game ever , even more exciting than psas (obviously because psas looks like a retarded clone!)

        1. Nintedward . Wiiu . 3ds . 1991 .

          infinite lasting apeal. i calnt wait to play it on the wiiu gamepad whilst using a stand for it , and the wiipro controller.

      1. im happy playstation finaly made there own version of brawl. I remeber back in elementary school in the PS2 days that me and my friends would always talk about how they could make a game like all stars and how much fun it would be. They finaly did and probaly just for childhood sakes ill buy PSAS, getting the PS3 version with the Vita version for free is pretty awesome too. I know nintendo wont do that with this.

        1. Nintedward . Wiiu . 3ds . 1991 .

          thats because the ps3 and vita version are exactly the same game.
          the 3ds and wiiu game are going to be totaly different.

          PSAS looks like pure crap btw. its a horrible rip off of smash bros , without the game defining percentage based damage counter.

          i want to kick sony in the nut sack for copying SSB. sob’s

          1. You do know that is just normal buisness practice right to copy the competators thing and tweak it to thier own thing? I see nothing wrong with sony making there own brawl thing because it will be nice to play with PS characters for a change. No way you were gonna see them ln brawl.

            1. Nintedward . Wiiu . 3ds . 1991 .

              i can see where you are coming from :). but , i feel smash bros is way to unique to be copied in the lifeless way sony has .
              they could of made it a 3d arena brawler where you run in 3 dimensions , that would be unique . but they have copied the shit out of SSB .
              i think its awful and i personaly dont agree with sony copying in this man, they should of made it more unique.

                1. Nintedward . Wiiu . 3ds . 1991 .

                  when you say all brawlers , which brawlers do you mean?? smash bros is unique. because its a brawler with all nintendo’s ip’s and regulars.
                  sony have basicaly 100% copied that idea.
                  they should of just stayed away. its nintendo’s idea . not theirs.
                  i am fed up with sony trying to rip on people . with ther lack luster ideas. they should stick to what they do best and let their first party studios like naughty dog , make awesome unique games like uncharted .
                  they have good studios . excellent ones. so why rip on nintendo ???
                  money grabbing copycats with no soul.

                  1. Believe it or not, Smash Bros. itself is not a genre. It’s of a genre which was completely dominated by Smash Bros. as soon as it was released, making all other games in the genre look like crap. Yes, Sony is copying it in the fact that they have a load of their own characters in it, and they probably got the idea from Smash Bros, but the genre itself isn’t smash bros.

      2. and btw in reply to your coment on the pickachu 3DS, I will not trade in my 3DS for a 3DS XL and waste my money on one nor give up my zelda anniversary 3DS for one. Its a stupid idea and not even worth it.

        And I got modnations racers because I love that game and I play the hell out of it creating stuff all the time and ive gotten good at it too.

        1. Nintedward . Wiiu . 3ds . 1991 .

          fair enough!!! if you have a zelda 3ds , you win :).
          but i will say this , as someone who swaped the small for the xl , the xl is ten times as comfy to hold and the 3d is really easily visible now.

          1. So glad to see you hear, DGT. Love your videos. Smart move ignoring the trolls. You’ll enjoy the website a lot more when you do so.

            1. well playstation is getting somegood characters and megaman is rumered to be playable and crash bandicoot. The arenas look awsome i like parappa the rappers stage. but they should have added more engaging stages like power stones did.

              1. Nintedward . Wiiu . 3ds . 1991 .

                since when is megaman rumoured to be in psas ??
                ign put him oin their dream roster. that just means some of ign’s sony fanboy editors hope megaman would be in psas.
                he would be much more at home in SSB. he was brought up on nintendo platforms. and has appeared most on nintendo platforms.
                in other words , mega man is not a playstation all star. he is a capcom character with nintendo roots.

                1. Nintendo roots must have been uplifted because they have megaman x456 on ps1 and 78 and command mission on ps2 and megaman 8 on ps1. Megaman cancelled legeands 3 amd added him for sfvt vita and ps3 OUCH! BTW its rumered because although its ign dream roster they are trying to expose those picks to the editors and publishers of sonys all god game

    3. You use Miyamoto’s name in vain (and mispell it in the process)…you must really like it when people remind you of how much of a waste of space you are.
      Trolling fail.

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  2. OMG OMG OMG YAY!!!! No more clones too! Lots of new characters and attacks as well? Sign me up! Can’t wait at all!!

    1. They never said nothing about that. Supposly smash brawl had no clones but since theyre no strangers to lying well you had link,toon link and others. Unless there definition of no clones means similar characters with similar moves just color differently lulz.

      1. If Brawl is anything to go by, how Sakurai defines uniqueness is not how almost anyone thinks of it. He probably thinks of unique play styles/what they can bring that no one else can bring for uniqueness, not always unique potential move sets..

      2. ERMAGERD NO CLERNS WAHHHHHHH

        Get over it noobs. Fox and Falco were never clones. “wah they have the same moves CLONES”. False, with different, jumping speeds/heights different running speeds, different attack strengths, different knock back angles etc ETC ETC
        Then they way they play and the way you should approach playing them is completely different. Unless of course you are a casual tiers don exits noob who can’t even combo. In that regard I guess smash is just you enjoying flashy lights on the screen. Someone hand you a controller that isn’t even plugged in and you’d still have fun hahahaha

        Maybe fox and falco in melee had the same animations, but they were hardly clones. Do you even know what a clone is? an exact 100% 1:1 genetic duplicate. Falco was heavier, hit harder, was slower, his recovery moves didn’t go as far. This changes his entire game and the same goes for all the other ‘clones’.

        At most they were cousins or siblings.

        The reason for their existence is that because the values for jump height/ attack strength/ etc are easily changed, and animation data is easily recycled. It allows them to make different alterations to the same character structure. It allows for greater variety and takes only a fraction of the time as making a character from scratch.

        what you defined as “clones” is just an alternate costume.

        Good day sir.

        1. They are considered “clones” because of the copy of the move sets. Ganondorf is called a “clone” of Captain Falcon as he does not have any original moves. It’s not a 100% clone (which there isn’t any), it’s in reference to a lazy copy and paste of the same move set. Sure Ganondorf moves slower, hits harder, but it was the fact that he has the identical set of moves as Falcon which names him a clone. It also applies to many other characters including Fox/Falco, Mario/Dr Mario, Picachu/Pichu, Marth/Roy and probably others that I can’t think of right now.

          They play differently as you say, but they are called clones due to unoriginal moves. It’d be like if Sub-Zero had the same move set as Scorpian, just that his moves were faster/slower.

        1. More =/= better. Brawl had a few characters that felt like they were kinda clinging on unwanted. I’ll say it a thousand times, clone characters need to go, and if this means a drop in the roster, so be it. A more balanced roster might mean a smaller one.

          1. Did you not read the article? They’re modifying moves on current characters, which pretty much says that there wont be any clones this time around.

            1. Then be prepared for disappointment. I guarantee you that there will be semi-clones in this game. Granted, some might become unique entirely and we may not have anymore full clones since Sakurai seem to like to lugify semi-clones, but we won’t be seeing a roster in which all characters are completely unique anytime soon.

          2. Betting a ton of money that we get at least 44 characters (transformations included). Sakurai will continue to put emphasis on character additions and I doubt he’s going to cut a ton of characters.

          3. Yeah maybe they could remove some characters and replace them with new characters… so they could keep a balanced number of fighters while still adding new ones!

        1. 32 for each version, MAYBE. the more characters there are, the more time people like me can invest into such a game.

    1. Nintedward . Wiiu . 3ds . 1991 .

      shhhhhh. nobody cares. nintendo is the biggest player in gaming. always will be aswell. look at the 3ds son !!!
      now gtfo. we all know nintendo isnt pushing the boundaries of graphics anymore. but their games still look and play awesome. now just go away and put some sand in your undies bitch !

        1. Nintedward . Wiiu . 3ds . 1991 .

          i hate them all . can you imagine wasting your time on a 360 forum , just trolling. i like the 360 and ps3 so i wouldnt do that. it just seems retarded.
          these people/trolls need spiders in their underpants.

    2. Wait u hear that……………………………………..? Is that Nintendo calling? No because they don’t give damn.

      1. Or maybe you can call in your party members and the borders will change to a battle scenario from Mother 2 and 3, and all 4 can do something helpful(though, your special move will probably need to be dropped)

        1. Like, of course you’ll use Ness’s or Lucas’s signature moves, but maybe a party member such as, Duster, can use one of his thief tools to make a character sleep

  3. gewd… i’d like to see them make pit be able to switch between a few of the weapons he can get in uprising

      1. Yeah, Magnus could be an assist trophy! The Great Sacred Treasure could be his new final smash! Gaol, Great Reaper, Pandora, Hewdraw, Twinbellows, or Thanatos or something could be a boss in Adventure mode too!!

        1. And best of all hopefully Medusa (hopefully) and Palutena as characters. They are goddesses and can change their size when they need too, just as a warning to anybody who dare say that their too big.

          1. Bing Bang Bop!!!…hey I think Medusa and Palutena are too big….lol JK, but seriously they don’t belong in the game because naturally they would have to be NERFED big time. I mean…their GODS!! Bop Bam Boom!!!

          1. Bing Bang Boop! OHHHHhh Yes! an Eggplant Wizard assist trophy would be F.A.N.T.A.S.T.I.C. I can see it now… Eggplant Wizard is summoned and everyone turns into eggplants with little legs, running around the stage LOL! Bop Bam BOOOM!

        2. Hell no, Magnus is totally worthy of being a playable character >.>

          And I think Pyrrhon should be that boss, honestly. Or Thanatos.

          1. Well he only appeared in 2-3 chapters out of the whole game and all he seemed to do was swing a sword around.
            Not relevant enough to have a character spot; Palutena would deserve it more.

          2. How about Hades as a character, they would have to decrease his size down but he could be awesome as he can shoot lasers from all over his body and he is shown to have good speed from the part in Uprising where he chases after Pit in the final battle.

  4. I bet there’ll be DLC characters for the new Smash Bros. Not complaining, unless they’re good/OP characters of course xP

      1. Bing Bang Bop!!! Mega Man-YES! Rayman-YES! Spyro-YES! a hundred times yes!!!….Leon, Viewtiful Joe- uhh No… Bop Bam Boom!!!

    1. There won’t be any DLC for characters, barring unfinished characters. Sakurai is the kind of guy that likes to finish stuff and move on to other projects and Smash 4, as big as it is, will be no exception. I understand why there won’t be any character/stage DLC, but it still disappoints me nonetheless.

      Best to expect nothing for character DLC.

    1. Same. He’s shown to make projectiles in OoT, but he doesn’t get one in Brawl, and he’s shown using Katanas and Broadswords, but he never gets to use one. I really hope they make him and the other Zelda veterans better, since they all suck. Samus should also change, I don’t think her moveset reflects her games very well.

      1. Its such a fast past game and on a little thing like that it will kill my wrists and and they will cramp like hell….

        1. Nintedward . Wiiu . 3ds . 1991 .

          sounds like someone is a sony fan !!!!!!!!
          SSB will be beautiful on 3ds. it isnt that uncomfy to hold .
          and the xl solves these issues.
          have fun playing vita!!!!!!! RIP vita :)

          1. Bippity Boppity Boop!!! IKR!? I once played my 3DS for 24 hours straight…my hands were completely fine…my eyes on the other hand. Well I couldn’t see the next day lol! Bop Bam BOOM!

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  6. Make sonic’s final smash a little slower. I can barely use it cuz its too fast and cpu’s always spam and get me first! Speaking of cpu’s half the time, they are all double teaming at me. They barely hurt eachother.

    1. The cpu’s were designed to do that, it can be frustrating. If you go into a free for all thinking ‘the cpu’s are on the same team’, you’ll do better.

    1. This article only specified existing characters – and a lot of existing characters from Melee kept the same moveset on Brawl. Plus, we would only expect a few changed moves, not ‘lots of new moves’.

      So, no. It wasn’t ‘kind of obvious’.

      1. This. It sounds like it won’t be just: Boomerang> Gale Boomerang type changes, they’ll be proper ones. I really hope Link gets random Fire, Ice, and Light arrows.

  7. I’d like to see Samus’s suit actually change with the color. Have one color be the Varia suit, one be the Power Suit, one be the Fusion suit, one be the Light Suit, and one be the Dark suit.

  8. Sakurai should also include the deadliest, most unstoppable enemy from the Legend Of Zelda series. The chicken after you attack it too many times. It’ll destroy everything.

    1. That’d be great for a stage, actually… Playing in Castle Town when suddenly someone hits a cuccoo and suddenly a flurry of birds attacks everyone… “WHO ATTACKED THE CHICKEN?!”

  9. You’re aware that Nintendo is against that? Even Team Ninja knew better than to sexualize others’ characters.

    Heck, even they didn’t want their characters naked.

    1. The Agust edition of Game Informer gave the nude code for all the characthers of a game be naked. It works on all consoles

  10. Needs more Wario. =P

    The Warioware Wario we got in Brawl was amazing. Here’s to hoping that stays. People kinda forget that Wario Land, while a fantastic series, is still technically part of the Mario universe. ^_^;

  11. Not only one or two, it’s an entirely bunch of characters, and if they do change moves of the copies it will be a GJ for Sakurai.

  12. The quote has been misinterpreted (you didn’t even bother to include it).

    Sakurai said “It’s fun making new skills for new characters”, not that there would be lots of new moves for existing characters. Those hoping for an entirely unique cast are going to be disappointed.

    1. A fan who can’t interpret information according to reality has no integrity. They’re no better than cultists or religious extremists.

    1. Oh, you mean a codec-like thing where he talks to Palutena and Viridi or something just like in Uprising? That’d be awesome

  13. Omg! I’m so exited!

    first things first: I use Zelda alot because is one of the best characters with the best moves. I suppose when they talk about new moves, they might have change their looks as well, just like I believe is going to happen with zelda and link (twilight princess version in brawl, skyward sword or ocarina of time 3D version in Wii U or 3DS).

    I am afraid that Sakurai make them very different but I’ll trust him since he always do a good job.

    I honestly don’t want any dlc characters, I want all characters to be in the game only.

    1. Bing Bang Bop!!! Sorry, but I hope they cut him or make him an alternate costume for normal Link. I really am not a fan of clones. Blippity Bloppity Bloop!!!

  14. Here’s something to think about; unless they plan to support the Wiimote Plus + Nunchaku for the game[which I doubt, seeing as very few actually used it], the only controllers being supported will be the original Classic controller, the Classic Pro, and the Wii U game pad.
    ALL OF THESE HAVE FOUR SHOULDER BUTTONS, compared to the Gamecube pad, which only had a single Z button on the upper right and two normal shoulder triggers.
    They COULD just make that single extra button have the same function as its partner……
    Or, they could map unique functions to each of the four shoulder buttons, and let us change what does what……
    Z would obviously be for grabbing, and a shoulder button, either L or R, would be for shielding, by default, obviously, so if they decided to allow mappable controls, I wonder what they would assign the extra two buttons to allow us to do……
    The mind boggles at the possibilities.

    Now as to the characters[if you’ve seen my former posts then you likely know who I’m gonna talk about], just don’t give Link any nerfed moves, Nintendo.
    For the love of God, I beg of you, no more nerfed attacks, normal or special.
    You nerfed his spin attack, bombs, and boomerang in Brawl, on top of giving him an incredibly bad recovery capability, and it took fan mods to fix him.
    Don’t force us to do the same again.
    Get it right the first time.

  15. As long as the characters are balanced (IE, worst character having a chance to win against the best character) it’s all good. I really can’t wait to see legitimate information (images, trailer, gameplays) about SSB4…I’m at least hoping it will be awesome enough to convince me to buy the Wii U.

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  17. They should make character “transformations” into separate characters, and then add more characters for a total of 50. Then they should add plenty of new moves now that they have a good controller for it. 3DS controls might limit that, unfortunately.

    1. Bing Bang Bop!!! Yeah, Zero Suit Samus should be a character to chose from in the selection screen. Also, Samus should be able to switch between Suit form and Zero Suit form like Zelda and Sheik. They both should have separate final smashes and you shouldn’t be forced to be both of them in a match. < This should also go for Pokemon Trainer as well. I am looking forward to some all new movesets! ^-^ Bop Bam Boom!!!

      1. Yes. You should only be able to choose one for a match. No “transforming” at all. It only makes it unfair and confusing. And forcing you to change in to Zero Suit Samus almost makes some people hate Samus altogether, even if they like her in suit form.

  18. That’s interesting. Maybe mario will make use of the new powers he got in super mario galaxy 2, while peach makes use of the powers she obtained from the vibe sceptor. Link gains the ability to trans into a wolf and use his wolf powers while pikachu can make use of iron tail or volt tackle. I can only wonder what abilities and movesets they’ll have now

  19. You can swap between Samus and Zero Suit in game without the final smash in brawl already. This forum just shows me how many people in the world are interested in the gimmicks & characters in the game, rather than the fundamental fighting mechanics. I play Melee & Brawl competitively, and would just like to see some consistency and balance amongst the cast, as well as less gimmicks. As long as they put emphasis into the fighting technical issues brawl had, and fix the appauling lack of playtesting they did with brawl, I’ll be happy.

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  22. Oh yeah, but will include third party characters as rayman, shadow, megaman, crash bandicoot, pacman, lloyd… ?

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