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DFC Intelligence Says Their Wii U Forecasts Are Higher Than For The GameCube

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Jeremy Miller, video game analyst for DFC Intelligence, says that the company expects Wii U sales to be slightly higher than the GameCube,  which launched in 2001 and 2002. Miller says that the machine will appeal to the hardcore Nintendo fans, but it won’t capture the mainstream audience in the same way as the original Wii console did in 2006. He went on to say that he thinks initial sales for this generation will be better than last generation for Microsoft and Sony because of limited competition from Nintendo.

“The Wii U is more of a loyalist Nintendo system right now and is looking more like the Gamecube, but our forecasts are higher than for the GameCube. The Wii U and its lineup is very much targeted to a core Nintendo fan.  In that it seems pretty successful. The problem is many people are expecting another Wii in terms of sales and we don’t see that happening. As a company Nintendo probably needs to learn to make due with a smaller but more dedicated audience.”

“We actually think initial sales for this generation will be better than last generation for Microsoft and Sony because of limited competition from Nintendo. Consumers are ready for new game hardware, but they are also fairly savvy about purchase decisions. There is a great deal of pent-up consumer demand and it creates opportunity. Right now, we see both PS4 and Xbox One selling as well as or better than their predecessors in the first year.”

“A Wii U price drop would help drive sales into a more casual audience. The Wii U is a great family system, but Nintendo has done a poor job of even communicating its existence.  What they need to do better is have a more dedicated marketing campaign that explains to the average person what a Wii U is. Right now, many consumers still think the Wii U is just an add-on pad for the Wii.”

217 thoughts on “DFC Intelligence Says Their Wii U Forecasts Are Higher Than For The GameCube”

    1. OMG. I am starting to think that Iceazama’s (maybe I spelled it wrong) theory is correct that Why U Mad? is Sickr. Was this designed to get more hits? Great detective work!

        1. Very much possible. I looked back a few articles of sickr and coincidentally why u mad is always first. I guess now it won’t be the trend as somebody noticed. =)

    2. I HATE the fucking loosers that comment on this site
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      1. People that laugh about other gamers but only had a handful of games themselves for an entire generation…….that’s comedy.

        1. People that laugh at people that laugh about other games but only have a handfull of games for an entire generation is REALISTIC. You don’t play every game in existence, faggot. Especially if you have a life.

          1. This is what I always say. I think those of us who work and have limited time agree with this. I try and get as many games as i can but as i get older that decreases and will only decrease more when my daughter is born. This is why Wii U hasnt bothered me, ive been able to pre order and pay off slowly games coming out in the future so they are less of a burden on my pocket when i get them. Man I wish this gen was happening when i was 20, that would be different

  1. What a fool. The Wii U will be even more irrelevant and unwanted than the GameCube was. The PlayStation Nation will consume all competition.

    1. Too bad your favorite Playstation Nation is too busy shoving their heads up their asses with the biggest flop in the century that is the PS Vita.

      1. My God. It’s like everyday the comment section is getting worse and worse everyday.

        I guess this site is getting crowded with idiots.

          1. That the exact reason why I like this site. I can tolerate the comments at time, but this is getting really ridiculous.

            1. Shut up, bitch. Stop complaining. White knighting but still bitches about NIntendo. What a tool.

              1. do you even know what a white knight is ffs? the fuck do you get out of coming on a site u give shitall about and insulting people anyway? an empty soul i assume? spend all your time getting first comment i assume?

      1. -The Name
        -The poor advertisements
        -The lack of games
        -The fact that their main gimmick isn’t even used to its full potential
        -The highly moderated social network

        This is just the general idea. I’m sorry that this made me sound like a troll, but it’s frustrating.

        1. You’re a little faggot troll that’s hating on Nintendo yet has Mega Man from Smash Bros Wii U as his Avatar. Go fuck yourself, you hypocrite piece of shit mother fucker. I hate bandwagon NIntendo fans. Only like it when something is popular. FUCK YOU.

            1. You’re a hypocrite because you’re talking so much shit and you have Mega Man as your avatar. It’s pathetic. You’re not a real gamer. You’re a faggot piece of shit mother fucker cock sucker. Quit gaming. You’re probably not even good at Smash Bros. In fact, you probably don’t even know how to play it.

              People like you should be banned from the site because you read about Nintendo news and then complain like a little bitch and can’t enjoy what you have. Nintendo is here to entertain you yet you feel like they owe you something, like you’re the only human on planet Earth and Nintendo owes you everything you desire. They don’t. They don’t need you. They especially don’t need faggots. And you, little asshole, are a faggot of the highest order.

              Fuck yourself. Simple as that.

              1. I didn’t even bash Nintendo. I just gave my opinion and yet you’re so butthurt over it. The reason I have a Mega Man avatar is because he is my favorite character so far based on the trailer. I know how to play smash bros so stop spewing out idiotic statements for one dumbass.

                And two; out of ALL the spammers, trolls, perverts, and N-Dub, you chose me. You need some serious help. I am going to spend hundreds of dollars on Nintendo essentially, so I do expect them to have high quality products and games.

                Am I making you mad because I’m enjoying your anger :D

                    1. Jon Johnson Jansen

                      Are you kidding me? That’s your argument? Nothing is perfect, asshole. NOTHING. You want it to suck your balls for you? I bet you would. You mad it doesn’t make espresso? People like you give gamers a bad name because all you do is BITCH. You’re so disappointed in your shit existence that you take your frustration into the video game world and complain that even that isn’t perfect. Wake up, faggot. The world isn’t perfect. Enjoy what you have. If not, go fuck yourself and stop shitting on this world with your opinions.

                      1. Wow, you need some help. How can someone get so mad over a guy’s opinion. Do everyone a favor and leave this site.

          1. I actually remember people saying this about the Wii in June of 2007.

            The name was crap, the adverts were non existent, no games released apart from Cooking Mama and mini games, gimmick controller not used to full potential.

            I think the moderated social network is good though, the lack of twattish behaviour is very welcome for me.

            1. AND FUCK YOU. You hate Nintendo but are on a Nintendo website. You kids are so fucking stupid your parents should be arrested for fucking up your life so badly. They have no idea they raised the worst possible retard in human history.

            2. Agreed, curse words only make a conversation funnier. Being called a fuck nugget isn’t fun, though. They should allow a certain age to be able to curse or something.

          2. I agree with your frustration, but the name is fine. Advertisement would help out the Wii U, and the games are on the way. The game pad isn’t a gimmick you idiot, I for one like the game pad. But I agree it hasn’t been used to it fullest yet. The fact you labeled it as a gimmick makes you sound like a hater. It isn’t a gimmick……..

            1. I agree with everything you said, except for the gimmick part, thats just his opinion on the gamepad :)

                1. Imagine it in action with Metroid :0 or even Starfox… But not F-Zero, to distracting. I would like to see it work with a new mario party too.

          3. 1. Ok i give you that one
            2. thats another point for you.
            3. They are coming…. soon,
            4. Thats not Nintendo’s fault the 3rd party has a choice if they want to or not.
            5. Iwata said himself that miiverse is a for gaming, not social, if you want social go to facebook or twitter.

            Just because some people on here are dumasses don’t mean they all dumasses.

            1. I’m aware that there are some civilized people like you, but I’m a huge fan of Nintendo; they are my favorite company. It’s just the fact that people will go so low to call me a troll just sows that they’re stupid.

          4. First two I can agree with; third is more of the adjustment to HD gaming. Fourth will come with the games. The last one I find is one of the best things on the Wii U.

      1. You’re stupid for thinking that, faggot. Go masturbate on the Kinect while Microsoft fingers itself to you.

          1. Damn, is that a Tony Lane aka N-Dub Nation aka theOrigianlUnation aka Hardcore perverted Nintendrone at level 9001 alt ?

        1. Oh really? Where’s GTA5 on Wii U? Where’s the 3rd party support on Wii U? Where’s the directx11 on Wii U. Why 3 cores and not 8? You been sucking Nintendo’s dick too long.

              1. When Wind Waker HD comes out, it’ll be like taking a big cumshot to the face by the King of Red Lions.

      1. It’s like their predicitons are based on what peer pressure has forced them to say lol.

        I think about 40M-70M in 6 years for Wiiu would be a solid prediction.

        1. Sounds good for me, people don’t understand that once the games start coming out(hopefully using the game pad to it’s fullest) the Wii U will sell and bring attention to it. People give up on Nintendo so damn easily. They bitch to us fans about the problems instead of going to Nintendo, lol.

          1. LOL being a Nintendo fan is such hard work always trying to explain and justify everything to these inferior caveman like Xbots and Sony drones…

      2. SherlockWillFightBilbo

        They’re analysts. Right now, they’re giving an accurate analysis of Nintendo. They can’t alter their analysis because they know Nintendo will pull through. There’s no evidence for that. They have a very accurate analysis for today.

    1. And what else is stupid is dumb Nintendo should have worked the hardware before launch. But instead we get late ass patches. Who the fuck wants to play NSMBU with the pro controller now? They already beat the game. Nintendo is indeed STUPID!

        1. For the first time I see what Ness been talking about. If they do this its fine. if they do that thats fine. You know damn well you rather for 3D mario to have online.

      1. I thought you liked Nintendo D:
        A bunch of great games are still coming out this year and next year :P

            1. Oh really? Pop quiz: If Honda came out with a redesigned 240hp civic, why would Mazda make a 242hp civic? They would focus on a 280hp car and better mpg with the new Skyactive system inside.

      2. NSMBU is a little gimmick.
        Game developers should do some maths and music in their freetimes so that they can improve their immagenation a little…trust me :) and i agree with your opinion because I’m dissapointed too from Nintendo

      3. I’m guessing the fans made them do the patch. Let’s hope they start doing things right from now on. I believe the Wii U will be far better than the GameCube, but not as great as the Wii. But we’ll see how the Wii U is doing in February to determine it.

        1. “not as great as the Wii” Sorry but was the Wii even great? It had the short time appeal and a handful of good games but that didn’t compensate for the lack of all other great games and the technical/game amount wise/featurewise inferiority to the PS3, the 360 or the PC.

          But I really like the Virtual Console with the GC-pad support for N64 games!

          1. I meant with sales, I agree that the Wii had a short amount of “goodness”. The VC saved the Wii most of the time. I just hope they fix the damn problems. I see plenty of potential in the Wii U, I believe it’s time to act on that.

            1. As for now, it looks like Wii all over again. Massive jump-offs from 3rd parties, technology that is inbetween two gens, general lack of games after launch and a lot of *Please Understand*.

              I don’t rule out any console. Gamecube for example was not a success but it was far from being a fail. But the games were there, it had little 3rd party but it still got most multiplats.

              The same with PS Vita, it’s way too underrated and it actually has a lot of awesome games.

              1. Yeah agreed, but once the games come(starting with Pikmin 3) I’m hoping the Wii U gets plenty of eyeballs on it.

              2. If Wii U is the Wii then PS Vita is the Dreamcast 2.0, since third parties outside of the niche group are avoiding that platform like a plague. Even Wii U has way better 1st party support than the Shita ever did since released.

                1. I suspect a price cut will come around Gamescom. I don’t think the system needs a price cut itself, I just think it needs better memory solutions. Cheaper memory cards with larger space, or built-in storage on the Vita. At least 16-32 GB like a smartphone or tablet. Then provide the option for expandable memory with a memory card.

                  Supposedly Gamescom is supposed to be big for the Vita, but this E3 was rather disappointing. The system has a lot of support from indies and is gaining support from more Japanese devs, but it needs more than that. Hopefully we’ll some movement in that area soon.

      4. jtz my fellow you of the SEGA legions. Have patience and faith my friend. All shall and as much as people do not see, is well :). Nintendo are in a prosperous position. Sony were saved by Microsoft’s bumbling reveal and eventual e3 2013. This helping PS4 market share in America. Nintendo stock went up twice with the PS4 reveal 9 points, with the xbox1 reveal 2.2 points. Then on the 21 nintendo Wii U rose by 875 % in sales on Amazon.

        1. Nintendo scum… Stop trying to twist numbers. That 875% increase was at one retailer, in one country, for one week. Go back to dusting off your Wii U.

          1. You are indeed welcome to use verbose words Sonyan. Have you yet met our Nintendo commander? You we created as Sony Playstation one to give our creative geniuses at nintendo studios world over competition. It has worked we have Xenoblade chronicles, while your armies made the Smash brothers brawl copy Playstation all stars. You are welcome to copy a game pad, wait you did with the ps4 feel pad :). We are happy your new game movie ‘the last of us’ is competing with the ever green Animal crossing new leaf :). As Mario runs again with fellows peach, Luigi and Tod; we await the little sack boy accompaniment for the PS4. We love how you keep us innovating so as you and Microsoft can borrow and copy our ideas like with the successful Sony Playstation move :).

            1. What about Little Big planet is copied from Mario. It’s a 2D platformer but Nintendo didn’t invent that genre. Who cares if something is copied as long as it’s good and not a direct ripoff. It’s not like Nintendo is not using other’s ideas. Mario Kart 8’s anti gravity and the special wheels are “copied” from *Crash Nitro Kart*

                1. If you played the game, you’d realize it isn’t a direct copy

                  Nintendo copies things too you know … as much as your primitive mind wants to disagree

          2. Just like your precious little flop that is the Vita which only got a small sales boost from Japan then went back to crashing down like an irrelevant piece of shit like SS. Go back to sucking Sony’s dick and suck off your PS Shita. Even Sony forgot about what the handheld was suppose to be, pathetic.

            1. The exact same thing can be said about Nintendo too. Successful handheld, struggling home console…….

              Don’t rule out the slow starting ones !!!

              1. Nope. Wii U is actually getting attention from Nintendo while Sony doesn’t give a flying fuck about Vita lololol.

                I expect it to be discontinued Next Year, it’s done for. Wii U will outsell it’s ass in no time.

            2. They’ve already announced Gamescom will be devoted to PS Vita. And are teasing quite massive announcements

      5. Hmmm?? Idk who wants to
        use the pro controller with NSMBU?- Maybe those that BOUGHT New Super Luigi U!? 💋

      1. Wow! What rock have you been dwelling under? The Wii U runs unreal engine 4. It came from the mouth of epic’s own ashamed CEO.

          1. , “You heard the stupid gaffe yesterday about the Wii U. If someone wants to take Unreal Engine 4 and ship a game on Wii U, they can! Those are words from Mark at times “weird” Rein. EPIC CEO or executive director. The horses mouth and not a talentless developer like the now defunct THQ and vigil.

        1. It runs a scaled version of UE4. Which is not very impressive since a scaled down version of UE4 can also be run on many smartphones.

            1. That means that PS4 and XBONE are going to take it from behind by Nintendo. Right in the asscheeks.

            2. If the PS4 is unable to run the full featureset of UE4 WHILE being well beyond anything Wii U then what do you think a Wii U UE4 demo would look like.

              The Wii U is said to fully support the UE4 which is much more than what is possible with the PlayStation 3’s and Xbox 360’s ~20%.

              So what would make more sense to you? Scale down Unreal Engine 4 until it’s Unreal Engine 3 (~100%) level or use Unreal Engine 3 from the get go ?

          1. If Nintendo thought about the PS4 back in 08′ it would have handled UReal 5!!! But they were to focused on PS3`s specs.

    2. ““A Wii U price drop would help drive sales into a more casual audience. ”

      no it wouldn’t

      seen it first hand.. price dropped to 180€ here.. didn’t help sales

      1. i agree. Many retailers offered packages and price cuts and it didn’t do shit. Its not the games. Its the decisions Nintendo makes when it comes to the future. They act like it’s still 1990.

        1. Im going to take your word for it gamer and see what happens next year. If thses heavy hitters had online, it would be a more promising future for the Wii U though. Especially because its the only console with free online. If I was the CEO I’d use that as Nintendo’s advantage!!!

          1. free online costs them a lot of money tho so that’s probably a reason why many of the games don’t have any online options

      1. I am begining to think they should have delayed the system. Better they hardware being delayed once then the software. Once the hardware is on market that’s it!!

        1. No this way all the bugs and features are worked out and everything is running. Xbox One and PS4 will suffer launch glitches and issues at launch. Wii U wont have any when the arrive.

      2. They showed it in June 2011, re-revealed it in June 2012, released it in November 2012 and bring the games at the end of 2013.

        *brick-destroy-with face* (when facepalm isn’t enough)

    3. Everyone is coming out with these goddamn Wii U doom/success predictions. They are all giving me a headache. Van’t people just WAIT UNTIL CHRISTMAS!? 💋

          1. I know! I will be laughing so goddamn hard. Yet, even with great sales, Microsoft and Sony fanboys will still claim Wii U a failure… (sigh) no matter how hard Nintendo tries. They just can’t win. 💋

    4. Microsoft wont have good sales. Xbox One sucks, even though they reversed a bunch of shit, whats to say they wont bring it back part way through the 8th gen after you bought it? Plus Kinect 2.0 fuck that shit. Sony will compete with Nintendo. Microsoft cant even compete with my toaster.

    5. Is it just me or do people here really need mental help. Now we have people talkin about legions, Commander and some General fightin some non existing war. Seriously people they are just plastic boxes under your tv, this isnt world war 3, those plastic boxes are made to make you feel relaxed and entertained.

      1. These Wars are mere sparring matches for nintendo. You should have witnessed the great ancient war of nintendo and sega. On the playground those wars were fought. Not Internet word exchanges. Now sega is nintendo’s friend. As Sony once was, as Sony shall be once again. Briefly when the xboxone e3 mess Sony fans and nintendo fans had a truce. Now sony once again realizes they are competing with nintendo. For the xboxone is not only weaker than the PS4, but has a similar architecture with the same multiplats that shall look better on the beast that is the PS4. This time Microsoft does not even have the one year head start. As things stand Sony ps3 is number 2 behind the genius marvel, the original Wii. With nintendo software of the AAA kind releasing starting July, Sony remembers what the 3DS did as it hit 180degrees in angled turn and sold and selling it continues to :).

        1. Indeed, while these Xbots and Sonyans battle with everything they’ve got, our Empire merely enjoys the view and are always coming up with plans that will define the gmaing universe…

    6. Almost felt like they took a shot at the Gamecube… (Best Console ever!) Ah well, the Wii U will do just fine. Even if it doesn’t beat the X Box One (lol) or the PS4 (That could happen) as long as it sells well and makes a profit, we’re all doing good!

    7. Makes sense to me, especially the “communicating” part. Nintendo launch marketing sucked.
      However, I hope they are wrong about “Gamecube-like” sales numbers.

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    11. LOL. Do people not realize how this industry has been shrinking? Between the piss awful economy and market stagnation as well as increased competition from emerging platforms, you’d have to be a fool to think the PS4 and Xbox One will be able to sell as well as their predecessors, much less outsell them. Another to consider is the fact that the PS3 and Xbox 360 (especially 360) have/had high bricking rates so a lot of people had to buy more than one PS3 and 360. What they say about the Wii U though makes sense. If Nintendo gets their marketing together, I don’t see why the Wii U couldn’t sell 50 million units lifetime.

      1. Industry sinking? How when Toyota, Ford, Chevy, Hyundai, Honda and Chrysler sales surpassed ytd sales in 2008, 09′ ,10′ 11, and 12′. If alllll those millions of people bought new cars, they can buy video gaming consoles. So that’s BS. People do what they want with their money.

        1. Ford, Dodge and Honda are apart of an industry that will never go away,(People need cars). Nintendo, Sony and M$ on the other hand… The industry seems like its sinking, two of the three 8th generation platforms are not doing so good, the Xbox One is apparently DOA, Smartphones and tablets are getting more popular with gaming… Yea this industry is crippled… But can be recovered If Wii U sales pick up and the PS4 succeeding.

    12. Iwata is stuck in the stone age, It is his doing. He will either burn Nintendo to the ground before he leaves or he will be forced out before that happens. Nintendo will face a loss each year until the end of this generation, they fucked it up big time. Nintendo releasing the console a year early was the biggest mistake Nintendo has made in recent memory. The reason for the lack of advertising is because the WiiU is targeted to cores but the games are targeted to casuals. Iwata went half assed on the WiiU and will pay for it with his tenure as president.

    13. What fresh piece of shit is this? Appealling to the core? I don’t think so. It’s not really appealling to anyone.

    14. I think this guy is extremely optimistic about the new consoles…. in a market that is shrinking year after year

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