Sony Computer Entertainment America VP of marketing, handhelds and home consoles John Koller has told Engadget that he has emphasised time and again to Sony fans that the PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Vita combined can easily do what the Wii U does.
“We tell our PlayStation fans all the time that what the Wii U is offering is something that Vita and PS3 can do quite easily. It’s not just about the functionality, however, it’s about whether implementing that functionality makes any sense. “It’s dependent on the content. So we need to make sure the content isn’t force fed. And, to us, making sure that the gamer receives the right type of experience is what’s most important. So we’re gonna pick our spots, but that technology does certainly exist here.”
This is their second time saying this. Sounds like Sony is becoming more and more desperate each day.
Exactly. just trying to copy as always. they should come up with summit different but is good. i mean who the hell wants a touch pad at the back of a console. talk about easy scratching
wow, very desperate marketing…. They can do what a Wii U can do with double price, weaker specs and lack of buttons and shits. They’re abandoning Vita as a separate system.
They’re jealous.
>my name
Sony just said: We can easily do what a Wii U does, but we are more inclined to not do it at all, or not use it a lot.
Which makes me think, what is the point? The technology is there, then USE IT if you are wanting to catch future Wii U consumers. They want the Wii U because it DOES that from day 1. And you are saying that the technology is there, but it won’t be forced much or very much supported despite Little Big Planet? Tsk tsk, what a douche.
I am glad that the Wii U looks fun, and isn’t shy to show its “gimmicks” to the world. Fun experience that will be supported most of the times. That is a guarantee. Sony didn’t convince me to buy a PS3 and Vita for that kind of gaming, they certainly didn’t.
Exactly bro , we know it CANNOT run two screens at once with just one game disc in the ps3 console . FACT of the matter is , the ps3 could not run Rayman legends (for example) on the tv and the vita at the same time in perfect sync , whilst someone plays on the tv and someone uses the vitas touchscreen etc . The ps3 has no where near enough RAM to accomplish it , so what the fuck is this guy talking about ?????
the ps3 doesn’t have enough RAM to lift its games to proper resoloution with a proper framerate , let alone 2 asymetric screens .
this is the best example of butt hurt soul destroyed desperate marketing I have ever seen . Hats off to microsoft for inventing kinnect , doing their own thing and not even mentioning or feeling threatened by competition.
Nintendo got there first sony in e3 2011 , then you copied it .
at twice the price
Does the PS3 send game data or a video stream to the Vita?
Well they demonstrated some little big planet thing at gamescom . And nothing was really happening , he was controling the tv with the vita , but the vita’s screen was pitch black . Then a pathetic little 2d map popped up onto the vita screen with no detail what so ever . then sack boys face popped up onto the vita’s screen for no reason at all and his face looked like shit . So from what they demonstrated the ps3 cannot dual render its imagery upon the vita screen and the tv screen at the same time , no .
Try again.
this is just a bag full of s**t. If it can be done, then why those dumbasses at Sony never even tried to demonstrate it ? I´m sure the combination PS3 X Vita can´t do what WiiU does, just because there´s no video stream from PS3 to Vita, at least not for now. They would need to launch a bunch of apps/programs for both consoles in order to make it happen, and after all there would be the need of TWO consoles….. C´mon Sony, do you really thing that gamers today are that stupid ?
Microsoft copied the Playstation Eyetoy, so they didn’t do anything new, they only made a better, more expensive Eyetoy that doesn’t work unless you have a spotlight on the players.
*cough* Smartglass *cough*
sorry had a tickle in my through after reading about Microsoft doing their own thing and not feeling threatened.
@Nintedward
“…the ps3 doesn’t have enough RAM to lift its games to proper resoloution with a proper framerate.”
Congratulations — you’ve just won the “Retard of the Year” award. Idiot.
They’re not marketing the Vita/PS3 as being able to do what the Wii U can do. Media outlets and journalists ask very specific questions to create a buzz, fanboy wars, etc. online like this. Companies are polite enough to answer and many times a reply is in their best interest.
Sony doesn’t go out and say, “HEY! PS3 and Vita can do what Wii U does! Don’t buy them! Buy us!” The media and fanboys only make it seem that way.
^This!
He speaks thy truth!
That doesn’t explain other companies adaptation of motion control in the past though
http://nintendo3dsblog.com/jack-tretton-calls-the-3ds-a-babysitting-tool-makes-himself-look-like-a-moron/
He doesn’t exactly say it but I think we all got the point.
Mhm. PS3 can do what Wii U can, Wii U most likely has more or close to the same amount that the Vita has and the Wii U hasn’t even been released yet. Only like 3 games can cross play with Vita, and it is only being streamed on to the vita so most of the vita’s attributes go untouched.
Cross play is available in a different forms on quite a few different games. Off the top of my head:
Foosball, Zen Pinball 2, PS All-Stars, Sly Thieves in Time, Ratchet and Clank: Full Frontal Assault, Sound Shapes, Street Fighter X Tekken, Marvel vs Capcom 3, Blazblue, etc.
Also, it’s not only being streamed. Streaming is only when you are playing games via Remote Play.
lol, congrats Sony! Except you forgot the part where nobody wants to buy your handheld hahaha
$250 – $300 for the ”controller”? Sounds fair!
New Sony slogan: “Playstion does what Nintendoes!”
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hahahahaha man you got a point there!!!! so fucking hilarous…
You beautiful person.
Needs a bit of fine tuning.
Playstation Do what NintenDo :)
Yup. If people want to spend $300 on a PS3 and $250 ona Vita then yah sure they can do that. However it will have lag issues unlike the Wii U and Gamepad which is seamless with not lag issues and you save yourself $250. Fucking Sony. Its like when they said the Vita is better then the Gamepad cause the Vita has a processor in it…..They compared a CONSOLE to a Controller…oh course the controller wont have a processor in it.
And show me a vita that can play black ops 2? Oh wait the gamepad can!
The Vita has its own EXCLUSIVE CoD: Black Ops game coming out the same day as BO2 and it features online multiplayer and zombies on the go.
But the multiplayer,graphics(Call of duty’s graphics are the only thing going for it besides zombies),and storyline sucks.
LOL HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE TO SAY IT ITS NOT THE SAME THING LOL !!! LEMME JUST POST THIS LINK RIGHT HERE RIGHT QUICK AND Y’ALL JUST GO ON AND READ IT NOW!! http://gotgame.com/2012/03/08/the-nintendrone-volume-3-ps3-vita-does-not-equal-wii-u/
I said the same exact thing.
to bad sony cant do what nintendo does in sales. lmfao r.i.p sony
Yeah, but did anyone in North America actually buy a PS Vita?….
did anyone ANY WHERE buy a ps vita?
Japan, some few demanding titles there for them but here is pretty much deserted. Then again Japan gets all the good stuff for any of their platforms, heck even on PC.
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Dude, would you mind helping me to explain this : what is actually the ps vita? is it a yogurt?
its like an ipad
With out the I and the pad. Oh and it’s not made by apple, it doesn’t cost $499, it doesn’t have a retina display oh and it sucks. Basically, yea it is just like an Ipad.
Sorry Nintedward, I saw an opportunity and I went for it!
I was saying it’s shit like an Ipad , lol . I know all the factual nonesense.
My point is its trying to be some poncey multimedia device , whilst the 3ds is just a str8 up gaming device which is backwards compatable with one of the biggest game library’s ever assembled .
3ds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>vita>ipad .
LMFAO…
Yes, it is a very bland yogurt. It has 250 calories, btw you feed it to your wallet. However Nintendo makes a yogurt called Wii U that is way better and healthier for 350, it has the bestes of games. I said bestes because it felt right in the moment….
It’s paperweight with integrated gaming and media abilities.
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I did. It’s actually a pretty sweet system IF you can afford it. But even there, there’s not that many killer apps for it (not even Crash or Spyro PS1s are playable on the Vita), and even if you have enough to get the Vita, there’s still the memory card (at LEAST $20 more minimum) and games range anywhere from $30 to $50, so you’re really looking at minimum $300 for the Vita as well. Wii U’s going to have some kick ass games DAY 1, and I know I’m getting it ASAP. It’s half the cost, and twice the fun.
dont forget tax
In its first 6 months, it sold a little over 2million units. I’d say thats pretty damn good. Not phenomenal, but still good. Considering these handhelds have pretty decent lifespans, it will move a good bit of units after it picks up more momentum.
Ahhhhahahahahaha. Burn.
I can see them with the ps4. we take our idea from cross play to create this unique control…………………..
Hahaha, so true.
I’ve actually seen only one person with a Vita, and many with 3DS’s. I don’t hate Sony at all and I liked my PSP before it broke, but the Vita just doesn’t interest me.
Using the ‘near’ app on the Vita, I have been able to see that within half a mile from me at least 55 people own a Vita, have it connected to the net and visible, and use it fairly regularly.
Well I’ve bairly seen any, but then again … I do live in regional Australia :P xD
xD Well, to be fair, not TOO many people have Vitas anyway. I just live in an area with a lot of people. =p
Vita owner you say
What is your PSN
I don’t like to post my PSN/Gamertag/Nintendo FCs/Steam ID, etc. publicly online. However, if you follow my site, Twitter, etc. you might catch a glimpse of them. =p
Smittyy232.
That certainly isn’t my PSN ;)
Interesting. Vita trophies but no PS3 trophies. You have a Vita but not a PS3?
Surprisingly, I have met a lot of people who have Vitas but no PS3.
Well actually, I have a US PSN account, and I foolishly made an AU PSN account, then redeemed alot of stuff on there, and I kind of didn’t want to lose it so I’m stuck with 2 accounts now -__- lol.
Awe lol. That’s a mess. But I get you. =p
Plus … I kind of traded in my PS3 for the new slim one coming out :P and it had a different account :P
2 Million isn’t too many? K
Using StreetPass, I found nearly 200 people with 3DSs in town, and I live in Brazil. You were saying? :P
Nobody asked you that, nor cares.
No,YOU don’t care because you know that he is right.You can’t honestly say that there are many people with a vita.
Your point? He was talking about Vita. We were not comparing 3DS and VIta. I have a 3DS too. So YOU were saying? -.-
The point is that Vitas are harder to find than a shiny Pokémon.
It was irrelevant.
*Points at other direction*
Whoa, who changed the comments section?
._. The whole site just changed. lol
See this is why I’m so fucking biased against Sony now to begin with. They’re run by arrogant douchebags and like to hear themselves talk.
Have you ever asked yourself, why they said what they did? Maybe they were asked questions constantly by media outlets like: “With Nintendo’s Wii U coming out, many people are comparing your Vita to the Wii U…… ”
In turn, the company kindly responds with statements that, in fact, are not inaccurate. To a degree, the Vita/PS3 combo CAN do what the Wii U can do. Is that the purpose of the two devices? No. They really shouldn’t be compared.
Game companies rarely send out any press releases or market against competitors so blatantly. The media only makes it look so.
oh come on , whos comparing the vita/ps3 combo to the wiiu? why its sony of course.
*sigh* Sure, bro.
To a degree is not the same as all the time. Don’t make mountains out of molehills.
The fluff?
Why did you say fluff.
Then do it Sony.
No, they’re obviously quite content with having about 3 games that actually ape the Wii U functionality. That should be more than enough to counter a console that’s going to end with hundreds of games using it as default.
nothing but truths here
And by “easily” they mean kinda and with shitty quality.
OH HO HO BURRRRRN. You sure told them! High fives, man.
But in order to do that instead of paying 350 for a wii u i’d pay 300 for a new ps3 and 250 for a vita aka 550 and the vita doesnt have any (besides uncharted) good titles where as the wii u will. logic?
Surely not LBP is a good title?
gravity rush?
Assassin’s Creed Liberation?
Wipeout 2048?
Hatsune Miku Project Diva f?
Persona 4 Golden?
Need I add to the list?
And the wii u is cheaper even when it’s only on pre order? Oh come on! It’s going to be like 250 by the time they come out with a ps4
Sony are such ASSHOLES. Let me ask you this, can the PSV and PS3 do 1080p without a problem? I don’t think so, damnit! After they admitted recently their shame somewhat with the PSV compared to the 3DS, then this shit.
they’re trying to market Vita not as a separate system.
Lol 2 weeks ago this place was all “GRAPHICS DON’T MATTER”
Now they do apparently
some care some don’t
what’s the big deal
…That’s a resolution thing, not a graphical thing.
Despite this, he is still being silly.
higher resolution or better graphics.. there’s not all that much difference
both require more processing power
You can have very high resolution and your graphics could be ugly as hell, the resolution is how those graphics will be presented. If my resolution is high with 1080p and my graphics are butt ugly, the resolution will enhance the graphics and make the graphics look uglier.
not quite sure why you’re telling me this :)
Cuz you don’t get it. Anything can be uprezzed to 1080p; look at the HD collections on the PS3. None of them had graphics comparable to something like Sky rim to begin with. This is why we shouldn’t be making a big ass deal over the Wii U’s 1080p capability either, because it’s not like the graphics have gotten more powerful suddenly because of it.
um yes i do get it
if you keep the graphics at the same level but increase the resolution you need more processing power
if you keep the resolution at the same level but want better graphics you need more processing power
none of what you just told me has anything to do with what i originally said
end of story
I LAUGHED SO HARD.Especially when when i saw bug’s(a/k/a sony’s)face
I approve.
That was amazing.
Nintendo: You actually think your PS vita and PS3 equals the Wii U? ALL THIS TIME I THOUGHT IT WAS AN ACT, HEY GUYS LOOK, IT’S THE SONY WII U!
Sony: You’re mocking me aren’t you?
Nintendo: ohnonononono SONY LOOK, THE PS VITA OUTSOLD THE 3DS!
Sony: WHERE?
Nintendo: *Woody laugh*
Hahahaha…!
http://www.gonintendo.com/content/uploads/images/2012_4/1333653013003.jpg
You should be sacked, boy!
Oh, lol. Sadly, I don’t have that issue.
I lol’ed at the Interview page
they may do whatever Wii U can do, but its more cheap to buy a Wii U than buying a Vita AND the ps3 lol
They really have a big mouth.
I just put my dick into it .
How could you if there’s nothing there
Your response didn’t even make sense . What wasn’t there sony’s mouth or my dick ???? I put my dick into sony’s mouth .
http://psychsurvivor2.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/neo-mouth.jpg
…..You’ve looked? O_O
first
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the ps vita has like no good games though lol
Before people get all uppity and say “SONY IS COPYING NINTENDO AGAIN” keep in mind that they announced similar functionality at the same E3 the Wii U was officially announced (E3 2011, yes?). And honesty, I’m glad they’ll have similar experiences (hopefully). It creates competition which is always good for the gaming industry. I own a Vita and have already placed my preorder for the deluxe Wii U so I’m very excited to see what each company will do with their technologies.
The Sony’s Cross-Play already been used by Nintendo in past generations.
I presume you’re referring to the N64 with Pokemon games and the Gamecube with some GBA games, correct? While it’s not technically a new idea, Sony is using it in different ways (such as playing a game on the PS3 and continue playing it on the Vita). Even so, I don’t understand why they shouldn’t be allowed to further that idea.
Wario Land, LoZ:FSA, Final Fantasy:CC all allowed cross play from gamecube to GBA
cross play is not the same thing however
cross play works via wlan and has huge latencies
what the vita does works via bluetooth just like the wii-u controller (presumably)
As cool as the Gamepad using Bluetooth sounds, I don’t believe that’s the case, especially since they’d have to go through Sony to use it. I think it’s connection to the console is similar to that of the Wiimote. Then again, I could be completely wrong.
why not? and why would they have to go through sony? as far as i’m aware bluetooth is managed by the bluetooth special interest group which demands no licensing fees for its use
the connection the wiimotes use is bluetooth
Gamepad uses Infrared.
infrared? for transmitting a video feed? you’re kidding right? infrared will be blocked by anything, so if a person walks in front of your tv or you otherwise interrupt line of sight (for example by holding the crontroller in a too acute angle) data transmission will be interrupted.. try it with your remote control.. it will likely use infrared
on top of that infrared bandwidth is much lower than bluetooth’s and range is also shorter
this would be a huge step down compared to the tech used in the wiimotes
there’s no reason to believe that the gamepad won’t use the same technology as the wiimotes i.e. bluetooth
I love competition too, that make good consoles at this day, but being an arrogantt piece of shit isn’t competitive….
Chill out. I’ve read and reread their quote and I do not see how that was arrogant at all. They’re speaking on how they’ll be able to offer similar experiences to what the Wii U is doing. They also said they will only use that if it makes sense for them and for what games. It’s not like they’re saying a PS3 and Vita combo is better than a Wii U. And honestly, I don’t see why they would try to make it like the Wii U. They’re two separate systems after all. To buy both would be twice the price of a Wii U.
well basically he’s already apoligizing for weak support of that feature
“It’s dependent on the content. So we need to make sure the content isn’t force fed. And, to us, making sure that the gamer receives the right type of experience is what’s most important. So we’re gonna pick our spots, but that technology does certainly exist here.”
that’s what i read into those lines
likely because he already knows that very few developers will go out of their way to implement any special or particularly interesting vita features when >90% of the player base will never get to see them
Understandable, especially when they risk losing sales. It’s a tough balance in terms of trying to get developers interested in developing such features, which is especially harder when having a two system set up like the Vita/PS3 deal. It makes more sense to develop something along those lines for the Wii U when the second screen is actually part of the system, not something else you go out and buy.
Of course it’s harder for them. Something that wasn’t even originally part of the system to begin with would of course be harder to implement.
you don’t see it?…then why are they comparing and talking about a console that isn’t being out in a first place? that’s arrogance.
I can say my system is good, this is good, it has those good features, but come and talk that specific… well you see, don’t try to cover the sun with a thumb.
“you don’t see it?…then why are they comparing and talking about a console that isn’t being out in a first place? that’s arrogance.”
Maybe because the freakin’ media that posts these articles keeps asking them and bringing up the subject? Huh….
With double price and weaker Vita specs. Yeah SONY can do that.
Right…. So, everyone, buy a PS3 and Vita! Only $500 an it can do what the Wii U does!
Wait a minute…
with unique games,, wait what ?
And weaker specs… Oh wait! :(
And a 6 year old console !!!
On a system with huge dev support…
Wait…right??
so Sony’s gonna start selling PS3s with 2GB Ram? and Vita’s with L2, R2, L3, R3 buttons?
and apparently the ps3 can now support all of nintendo’s wii controllers and periferals, because the wii u can do that
Only if Nintendo makes Game Pads with back touch support that can play high definition games anywhere without being tethered to a console.
Nintendo has a 3D console that isn’t tethered and it actualy sell and people like it . Also the ps vita isn’t even proper HD it’s ‘QHD’ – metal gear solid QHD collection with only 2 games instead of three = GIMPED SHIT !!!
And the 3DS got a single Metal Gear game with ‘WQVGA’, or, in layman’s terms: “fucking atrocious resolution.” It’s less than half the resolution you’re referring to as “gimped shit.”
You do have a point.But we can still criticize the vita because they have been saying that it is “hd” when really it isn’t.While 3ds has a fairly low resolution,nintendo didn’t boast about it.And metal gear started on playstation and stayed on it so of course vita would get that.3ds was lucky to get metal gear.
Your points are so insanely weak that I can barely muster a “thank you” for at least partially agreeing with me.
How was it weak(not being threatening,just want to know).
Metal Gear started on NES.
No it didn’t.
It started on the MSX.
MSX, bro
3DS is standard definition garbage and MGS looks like shit on it. The Vita version is better in every conceivable way.
It’s not 3d , doesn’t have gyro features , doesn’t let you take photo’s and use them as camo . The 3ds version of snake eater is the best . I have the full version of MGS HD on the ps3 . Snake eater has had some strange graphical improvement’s on the 3ds , like the fact all the animals have been replaced with realistic looking ones instead of block heads .
The ps3 looks better with its glow and resoloution , but the 3D works really really well on snake eater 3d IMO .
Snake eater suffered from slightly rushed and lazy development from konami , so did the psv one with only 2 games .
But I don’t know why , Resident evil revelations look’s at least twice as good and detailed as mgs 3d , so it’s just konami trying to cash in with a rushed port .
Dude, I love my 3DS … but you can’t say MGS 3D is better than MGS HD … it’s just not possible.
Actually,a gaming news letter(I forget what) said that the 3d version looked better than it’s HD counterpart.
Well … until we see it, I’m afraid I have to call B/S on that one.
Although, take into consideration the size of the 3DSs screen.
No , i know HD collection is better (the one on ps3 not the ps vita) , but i really really really enjoyed the 3d snake eater on 3ds with the circle pad pro . It’s excellent , and all that bullshit Aelous is talking about graphics is bull shit , it looks better than the ps2 version and it’s in 3d , nuff said .
The vita version isn’t better , you get 2 games yeah but they arent rendered in 3d that really works well on that game .
3D is for little kids and adds nothing to the visual experience, it’s also stupid.
Nobody cares about camos.
“Gyro features” again, who the fuck cares and what is this even used for that can’t be done more reliably and less like an idiot than waving around the handheld
The 3DS version looks all around shit and the Vita version is far more atmospheric, has better framerates, has MGS2, and the original 2 games. It’s already beaten. Try again and come back another day.
3D isn’t actually that bad. It’s just, the 3DS doesn’t show it off well. I’d love for my VITA to have 3D.
I’ve played it and the demo looked and ran terribly. I swear it was like I was playing a PS1 game.
For MGS 3D?
Have to agree with you there. I don’t think they should of even released it for 3DS. It put a taint on the series. (No Nintendo fanboys, I am not hating on Nintendo, MGS 3D was just terrible)
We are all entitled , to our opinions . Mine is pretty much what ign thinks . Not kissing there ass just saying its about an 8.5/10 experience .
The irony being that the Vita version is also SD, as it doesn’t have an HD screen…
The Vita is qHD and outputs at 540p. Standard definition is 480p and below. Do your research, imbecile.
HD is 720p minimum. Anything below that is SD, although some like you come up with terms like qHD or ED to try and mask that fact.
To further illustrate this point, the damn Wii, widely derided by yourself as an out of date SD piece of crap, is actually an ED console if we believe those definitions.
Dude, you don’t fucking getting it, do you? 540p is sub-HD. You called it “SD”. Stop skirting around the fucking facts, and accept that you’re wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_display_resolution#qHD_.28960.C3.97540.29
Stop pretending like you know shit, because you don’t.
You referred to 480p as SD earlier, so you’re hardly one to claim you know what the hell you’re talking about. 480p would be classed as ED, which goes all the way up to 576p, and the Vita with its 540p screen falls into that ED range. Along with the Wii with its 480p capability.
Oh the humanity, the outdated piece of crap Wii is in the same resolution classification as the Vita…
And you said it yourself, 540p is sub-HD. So Sony have a bit of a cheek calling the MGS Collection on Vita the MGS HD Collection, don’t they? :)
/lawyered.
I love how you’re using television standards on handheld screens to support your argument. Amazing logic. These are fucking 3-5 inch screens; not TVs. There’s a big difference here. 540p has NEVER been referred to as ED nor is it considered such; it is properly listed under high definition. 576p is what it is in the phase alternating line territories, nowhere else. Oh and 540p =/= 576p.
540p is qHD, end of discussion. Not SD like you said, stop making a fool out of yourself to defend your shitty Nintendo.
1. We’ve been using nothing but TV standards all the way through this discussion. Which is why you keep saying the Wii is an SD out of dated piece of crap. When as I’ve corrected you multiple times, the Wii is ED.
2. Source for ED pixel range being 480p-576p… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced-definition_television You should be fine with Wiki as a source as you used it first above. :)
3. Do you understand where the concept of a portable console comes from? The screens are supposed to be like mini-TV screens, like a console you can carry around with you with its own TV screen built in…
4. You need to make your mind up as to what 540p is. First its qHD, then it’s sub-HD, and now in this post you first say it’s just plain old HD (again, HD is 720p minimum) and then go back to qHD again. Consistency ftw.
5. I am aware that 540p does not equal 576p. I am capable of counting and recognising that 576 is a larger number than 540.
6. You still don’t get that ‘qHD’ is a term created to manipulate a sales boost. If people see HD in there somewhere even though its nowhere close to actually being HD, then they will think its of higher quality than it really is. Case in point, you have fallen for it.
qHD is almost always referred to as “sub-HD” as well, stop arguing semantics and stick to your point. It’s a strawman method of arguing. .
In any case, you’ve already been fucking told. Absolutely NOBODY refers to 540p as “ED” it’s always considered a high definition resolution, whether you like it or not. The Vita is HD, the 3DS and Wii U Gamepad are not. Simple stuff.
Once again. It cannot be HD at the same time as being sub-HD.
It’s not semantics, it’s just basic logic. Which is why you’re struggling.
Get a life Aeolus, seriously man. You have to be the most pathetic person I have come across on the internet.
PS3 and Vita can’t play Bayonetta 2 lol
Low blow xD
Ouch!
inb4 “OMG ETS GONA BE SHIT!1!!!!1”
well, sony, if its so easy than why not do it? seriously, all it would do is help vita sales, but no. they literally CAN NOT do what the wii u does. its almost the same problem with smart glass, the console isnt directly streaming the video to the vita/tablet, it’s doing it over wifi, which isn’t nearly as fast as the connection between the wii u and the controller.
the vita is using bluetooth for that i believe (not cross play)
you’ll find a few videos on youtube that show no latency
however support so far is ridiculously poor.. i’m surprised he even brings it up… must be desperate
yeah, i have no idea why any developer would support that. at all. i mean sony themselves dont even advertise the vita.
Must be a joke, where are the cameras?
Come out Ashton! I know you’re there!
The Vita actually does sport cameras.
…though given how little attention they have, I say this within a very alleged sense.
bunch of liars you cant get a ps3 and vita for less then $300 and have games at 1080p and 60fps
their just jealous that Wii U is a Beast
Yeah but to do it you need to buy 2 systems, both a PS3 and Vita. Or alternatively just buy a WiiU which will be half the price pretty much.
It can do the same thing, but you need a ps3…and a ps vita…and a compatible game for cross play…so isn’t that like double the cost?
Can the vita or ps3 get as many good games as nintendo consoles do? nope nintendo has the best game selections
the better question is: how many games will bring any useful vita support at all? prolly not many
Fuck no. The Wii is shit compared to the PS3, you fucking loser.
Why don’t you just say “the sun sets everyday?” It uses less words to say something equally obvious.
The ps3 has much less shovelware and more hardcore games . so overall , you’re probably right , but IMO the wii has the best exclusives this gen .
The 360 is dead last with it’s cross platform shit that is found elsewhere and tiny amount of worth while exclusives .
No it doesn’t. Shut the fuck up.
“The ps3 has much less shovelware and more hardcore games . ”
“No it doesn’t. Shut the fuck up.”
lol, you heard it here first, folks xd
No, you READ it in 2nd grade reading comprehension. You don’t “hear” anything on this page.
Yet you tell people to shut up on this page? How can they make noises on this page then if you can’t hear anything on this page? :3
That was the comment he didn’t respond to,because he knew you were right.
Also, why are you still on this page? You hate Nintendo so much and there fanboys, but you always come back. Going to answer it? Or are you just going to continually avoid it?
He does because he doesn’t have any other logical reason besides trolling.
trolled hard XD
Shut up, Meg.
changed your email again because of a ban? arguing semantics again? why am i not at all surprised?
I haven’t been banned in months.
But you HAVE been banned.
Know-nothing twats receive that punishment at least once in their forum time.
Congratulations, twat.
Can’t punish what can’t be banned anymore to begin with, pussy.
Now go cry to your whore mother some more and see if I give a shit. =P
Wait….you go through the trouble of changing your email each time just to come here?WOOOOOOOOW.
This shows proof that Aeolus is a liar and a retarded pain in the ass.
You mean randomly typing a number or letter? Yeah that’s plentyyyyyyyyy of trouble. /s
Meg,that’s dangerous to put in a random email.You could get arrested.
Xenoblade , prime trilogy , skyward sword , twilight princess , smash bros brawl , mario kart wii , mario galaxy 1 , mario galaxy 2 ,
NUFF SAID . it’s a shame you have never played these great games and you are such a fanboy who isn’t prepared to play other people’s games.
the only 360 games which compare to those above , are halo reach and forza 4 .
PS3 also has execellent must buy exclusives , and as i said above it’s better than the wii overall .
http://sickr.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/metacritic.png
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/mc2009_platforms.png
Gtfo.
Oh, here’s a bonus:
http://kotaku.com/5118093/metacritics-10-best-worst-games-of-2008
The Wii sucks.
You suck ass, Amir! Get a life!
No it doesn’t . If you are a proper ‘hardcore’ gamer like you keep preaching , then you would know of the wii’s good amount of absoloutly amazing exclusives . Like i said the ps3 has more , can you not understand I am trying to tell you I think the ps3 won this gen in terms of amount of good exclusives ?? or are you butthurt ???
the 360 is stone cold last .
.
Statistics have proven it. The Wii sucks.
statistics have proven it
everyone on this page considers you a loser ;)
and i don’t even have to create a poll for that.. it’s obvious from the replies you get
Then statistics also prove the ps2 sucked?
The most popular console will have the greatest amount of shovel-ware. Before you attempt to quote statistics, especially from a site that uses no mediated and has low power standards, get your facts right.
Heads up, this is coming from someone who has done 3 years of statistics study: Walk away now before you are shown how the smart people play.
Oh and, the insults you use are mediocre at best, anyone can swear. I prefer to reveal your true nature as an inept sad person who has such low self esteem they have to insult others to feel high and mighty. I feel sorry for you, really.
the vita suck balls no bodies buy it nobody wants it there no games for it its not worth buying at all. sony should just give them out free
http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html
Oh I’m sorry, what games are in the top 3? Seems that 2 of those titles are on the wii. Imagine that, kiddy colour full Mario in all of its 480p glory scored higher then any game ever made to date. All that time, money and effort to make a game for the so called hardcore audience with its hd graphics and “realistic” manly look, couldn’t manage to be a better quality game then Mario. Sad.
“No it doesn’t”
that’s some great arguments you’re bringing up there mate
That’s some great grammar and punctuation you have there.
ohh a grammar flamer
getting ever more desparate are we?
“ohh a grammar flamer”
Shitty at English too and trying to call names. Hysterical.
Hypocrite.First,you say “grammar doesn’t matter”then you start doing this.
the wii wins easily
Ahhh so that explains why the Wii was outselling the PS3 for 5 years… you make a lot of sense… *end of sarcasm*
Sales do not equate to quality.
So the PS1 and PS2 were also utter shit?
Okay, I believe that.
Shitty linguistics skills are shitty. Hope you don’t go around in public with that logic.
Yeah, not all games support PS3 + Vita functionality. Not many, in fact. It’s also much more expensive for a gamer to buy two copies of one game for functionality you can get on one console with one copy of the game and with much better performance.
” It’s also much more expensive for a gamer to buy two copies of one game”
Good thing there’s cross-buy for a good number of titles here on out for those who do wish for such functions.
Boy! They are trying really hard to sell the Vita!
RIGGGGGGGGHT
half of the stuff that the wiiU pad has is not even present on the vita. furthermore the vita and the PS3 are 2 separate systems, it must be a pain to code a game to make it work properly rathern than just being a streaming-output combination
Either Sony has much grace under pressure, or they are just unreasonably cocky. From what I’m hearing, streaming to the Gamepad is much more efficient than crossplay on the Vita. They are more talk and less walk.
lol they’re basically saying people need to buy 2 consoles to do what Nintendo can do with 1 console ?
Fail much ?
TRUE THAT
You win this entire forum with you str8 up disgustingly truthfull comment . +4
I guarantee you Aeolus won’t even reply cause you can’t argue with his logic. And if he does, he’s insane. And an idiot.
Oh wait…
He should reply any minute now saying ”no it fucking doesn’t shut up , source ??”
Days later, still no reply.
Come at me bro. I dare you, I double dog dare you motha****a try to make an argument against his logic. You can’t.
Well it’s not that people don’t believe it but it’s that you have to pay over $500 and the only people that would take it are the current adopters of both which chances are they are few than people who preordered the Wii U as of this point. So that’s my main problem with this statement.
+1 for the point
+6 for the gravatar
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It’s like: yeah, we can do that… but we don’t.
Sony is always having a identity crisis.
Couple of things about that, ahem.
1. $250 + $200 or £250 (for the new model) + £250 is more than $300.
2. You CANNOT stream PS3 Specific games on the Vita. Yes, psone/ps2/HD remakes/and the very few crossplay title, but you cant run any ps3 game.
3. The Vita doesn have all the capabilities of the gamepad. Similary to the lack of clickable analogs on the gamecube, there will be obstacles that are almost unbreakable.
4. The lack of incentive. The WiiU is build around the gamepad, developers can make their games centred around it, because everyone has one. Ps3 + Vita is a much much larger risk.
5. The ease of developin with the gamepad. The ps3 was simply not build to do crossplay. It was a quick effort in order to compete with Nintendo. Its not made to optimise perfect gaming experience, and developers will simply find it much harder to create the game than it would for the WiiU.
It’s a nice idea Sony, but, seriously, a but of that old originality got you where you are and how you did in the past 2 generations. Do it again.
Case closed.
Seriously, whats next? Microaoft gona say SmartGlass can do it to?
Ermm, big problem wit that, BUTTONS.
I tried to write my case as well as this , but it was nowhere near as detailed and brutaly delivered = here is your invisble trophy .
1. The price difference is negligible, but swings in the Playstation combo’s favor when you consider a $60 value is bundled into the $500 for free.
$300 (base price Wii U, no game) + $170 (normal 3DS) = $470
$250 (base price PS3, includes game) + 250 (wifi Vita) = $500
2. You cannot stream Wii U-specific games to the 3DS; while “technically possible” to send some information from the Wii U to the 3DS (obviously graphical and processing fidelity will take a hit) no games shown thus far have included that ability.
3. The Vita has 4 face buttons, 2 analog sticks, a D pad, two trigger buttons, and two rear touch panels. It has gyro sensors and accelerometers, force feedback, a microphone, and two cameras (0.3mp). The screen is a 5 inch capacitive OLED touchscreen with a 960×544 resolution. The Vita can leave the house and still play games. ///// The GamePad has 4 face buttons, 2 clickable analog sticks, a D pad and four trigger buttons. It has gyro sensors and accelerometers, force feedback, a microphone, one camera (1.3 mp) and a sensor bar. The screen is a 6.2 inch resistive touchscreen with a 854 x 480 resolution. ///// THE VERDICT: Wii U’s GamePad can only stream data and, despite having a larger screen, has a lower resolution. The Vita can stream some games as well as play its own games and has superior touch and screen technology. The Vita can do more.
4. Mostly true — I’m sure Sony is providing plenty of incentive to devs.
5. The PS3 was not built with cross play in mind, but the Vita was. Its networking infrastructure is nothing PS devs aren’t used to. And yes, the Vita was built with cross play in mind. You conspiracy theorists can set down your pitch forks: Sony prepared their E3 show way ahead of time, just as everyone else did. They could not have anticipated the GamePad, let alone know enough about it to develop specific Vita features to compete against it.
sTOP TALKING OUT OF YOUR ASS , PUL THE PLAYSTATION MOVE OUT OF YOUR ASS HOLE RIGHT NOW .
. please , stop with the bull shit the ps vita is a piece of shit and it in no way compares to the wiiu . fuk off
no u
LMFAO. Someone please try to decipher this rubbish.
You should. You wrote it.
I don’t recall being “Aelous”.
Can’t even read. What a joke.
If anyone you can’t read.It clearly says “Aeolus” in your username.
dude he is TALKING about Vita and PS3. 3DS has nothing to do with crossplay. GODDAMNIT !. The article is ABOUT about Sony is being cocky that their PS3 and VITA can do it. The Vita can do more ? really ? hmmmmm. You only did show some details about Gamepad. Your comparison seems legit and hey Wii U isn’t even released yet.
ok
the vita can do more? does it have good games? uhmm no! does it have good sales? uhmm no! sony is a flop company for flop gamers
U mean not force fed like the move right?
The Move was barely even pushed. What are you talking about?
This is stupid. Its comparing 2 game consoles up against 1. Its like saying the 3ds AND the wii u is better than just the ps3. Its sad too, because they are great at making software, but have a terrible marketing department! Has anyone ever seen that creepy ass ps3 commercial with the plastic baby doll? Its fkin creepy and has no relativity to an actual ps3…
LOL…yeah like i’ll by a ps vita and a ps3 for 600 when i can get a 3ds and wii u for 520 with hd and good games
Cue cunt aeolus in 3..2..1..
Don’t be silly, his mother put him to bed hours ago.
No, but I banged your whore mother for the past several hours. By the way, she left her g-string at my house.
Haha. Wow. For someone who loves to act superior, the best you have is something a tiny little 12 year old would say. But then that’s because you are 12…
It’s funny watching you contradict yourself.
but is it funnier when you do it yourself?
@Aeolus……. I know what your doing….. If everyone on this nintendo website wanted to listen to an ASSHOLE!…….. We would all just fart….
Now GTFO of here or get your mind right………..
P.S. I really think you are the inspiration for law makers to come up with the Baker Act (look it up if you dont know)….
Lulz. You accusing anyone of anything would be like Romney accusing Obama of being too conservative.
In other words, a massive double standard.
Oh and just a little heads up, I don’t act superior. I don’t need to, not with you. Kind of like how an average human wouldn’t need to act superior to a dung beetle. It just is by default.
awwww how cuuute
$580 for a ps3 and vita plus 1 game $300 dollars for wii U
don’t forget the overpriced memory sticks
That post just means ps4’s controller will look like a tablet lol calling it!!!
Probably just be a Vita, which still wouldnt be good enough, not to mention expensive, again.
That’s a bold statement.
I like nintendos charm with the characters they have.
i’m sure they can.. what he forgets to mention however (certainly on purpose) is that first: the whole bundle costs more than 400$ and i get a console that is vastly outdated and will soon be replaced by its successor and that secondly considering that vita sales are poor, hardly any developer will go to the length of actually implementing any elaborate vita features.. you can’t release a game that relies on the vita as a controller.. it just doesn’t work.. so no in a way they can’t do everything the wii-u can do
i wonder why nintendo doesn’t bother to reply to these claims seeing as they’re so easily debunked.. maybe they think they’re above it all
I know right? Some times, sony sounds so stupid, I can’t believe nintendo just sits there and takes it…
They probably just don’t care. Like they don’t partake in useless claims and constant jabs at other companies
why would they say anything when sony is digging there own grave
Agree with you.
So far, sony has straight up copied ps move from wii, littlebigplanet karting from mario kart, playstation battle royale from super smash bros, and now vita/ps3 crossplay from wiiu….. wow sony, just wow, I know you can be innovative without taking “inspiration” from others….
The Move works with the Playstation Eye (something that was originally the Eye Toy for PS2) so it’s more of an improvement in terms of technology (although the Wii is better in terms of support and games), LittleBigPlanet Karting is the new ModNation Racers (a game that took the karting genre to a new level and something that not only Nintendo is allowed to make games of), Nintendo wasn’t the inventor of the crossover fighter and PASBR has different gameplay mechanics than Smash Bros, and finally (as I’ve said above) Vita/PS3 corssplay was announced at the same E3 the Wii U was announced. Innovation comes from competition. You might look at it as copying, but it’s called business, something both Nintendo and Sony are in.
well considering battle royale he was right tho.. the developers pretty much admitted they let themselves be inspired by smash brothers ;)
i don’t see the big issue either tho
even nintendo does it sometimes as can be seen with the pro controller
The funny thing is that there was a video of the team being interviewed and they had a Wii in the background. lol
And? Just because they’re developers for Sony, doesn’t mean they won’t have other consoles. I mean doesn’t Sakurai have a PS3 or something along the lines?
he was saying , they were copying the games off the wii .
sakurai probably plays his ps3 for fun , not to directly copy a game and compare the floaty physics of the characters .
Just because they have a Wii doesn’t mean they’re copying. And so what if they took inspiration from Smash Bros. It should be a compliment that they are because they believe it is such a success. Didn’t the Darksiders developer say he got inspiration from The Legend of Zelda?
why so defensive? no one was making any kind of accusation
“he was saying , they were copying the games off the wii .”
Yeah, whatever you say.
and why is that suddenly an accusation? almost every game released today copies its concept from somewhere else
geez don’t get your panties in a twist
Well dark siders is a completely different and unique story and it’s just in the same genre. I know they are similar but that is just genuinely inspired development which miyamoto probably feels proud to of inspired.
Sakurai will be fucking fuming with what sony has done with psas . Its a direct clone , trying to be exactly the same game but with sony characters.
Like if darksiders was called the ‘the legend of esmerelda’ And Bink the chosen hero had to save her with the chosen sword. that would be going to far like psas has . Darksiders is just a great inspired franchise .
Have you even played PS All Stars? The game play is nothing like SSB.
post the video plz
well, dont forget POWER GLOVE !
1) PS Move was in development from at least 2001 where it was shown at a tech show where Nintendo probably got the idea from and just went to the market first with it.
2) Really? LBP Karting from Mario Kart? We’re just grasping at straws here, aren’t we now?
3) PS All-Stars Battle Royale: Okay I’ll give you that one since there are significant similarities. However, I stick to my guns being a huge fan of SSB and haven played PS All-Stars, it’s NOT a “clone.”
4) Vita was announced long before the Wii U and cross-play functionality was shown prior to the Wii U as well.
So…. what else do you have?
But….but….GBA connectivity was first.
POWER GLOVE since what 80’s. GBA and GCN cross play since 01′. Mario Kart since 80’s, SSB since early 90’s..
you sir, you are the men
Power Glove is from Mattel, not Nintendo.
It was also not the first motion controller either.
GBA + GCN is not “cross play” it was a bunch of stupid map gimmicks barely any games worked with or supported it. Even then, still wasn’t first due to Dreamcast VMU.
Try again.
Factor 5 had an early Wiimote prototype while developing Rogue Squadron 2, which was a Gamecube launch game, pre-dating that 2001 video of a ball on a stick.
Sure they did.
Yes, they did. It’s pretty common knowledge that the Wiiremote was initially planned as a GC peripheral, hence them having it in the pre-launch period. In fact I’m surprised that someone such as yourself hasn’t used that as a weapon to further prove just how old the tech in the Wii is.
But then it would self-defeat the ‘Sony did it first’ bullshit that you’re peddling if you did. Oh the dilemma…
Source.
http://uk.wii.ign.com/mail/2006-01-26.html
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=factor+5+had+wii+remote+prototype
Amazing logic.
Development of motion controller begins in 2001 and Sony’s during the same year.
I’m sure they hijacked Nintendo HQ for the plans.
But… but… but… Didn’t you say I was making it up? For shame…
That’s cool and all, but I still don’t see most developers making it a major feature. They can’t guarantee that every person who owns a PS3 owns a Vita, and vice versa. 100% of customers who buy a Wii U will have the Gamepad. There’s no risk to adding Gamepad functionality, whereas any developers trying that with a PS3/Vita game are risking making less sales when they could just concentrate on one platform.
EXACTLY! VERY WELL SAID
Can the PS3&PSVita do 1080p without breaking a sweat? There are a lot of things that’s wrong what they said.
A PS3 launch title ran in full HD (Ridge Racer 7), so it probably can.
BWAHHAHAHAHAHA
RIDGE RACER! Riiiiiidge Racer! XD
You are such a fucing moron Aeolus.
“fucing”
You’re a -fucking- idiot.
ZOMG, I ACCIDENTALLY MISSPELLED ONE WORD.
Sraly Aeolus. Trying to support Sony using Riiiiidge Racer!!! as an argument is just fail.
Your existence is a fail.
Ah, so since I’ve made a better argument(admittedly still not a good one) you’r goung to resort to obvious straw mans? LOL. What a fail.
Why are you still on here Aeolus? And give me an actual reason, not some question avoiding bull.
He NEVER answers the question.
Uhh. The game ran 1080p at launch how does that make him a moron?
Because the ps3 and vita together cannot do 1080p without breaking a sweat . You moron . 1080p on screen with the shitty old graphics that ridge racer 7 has . lol .
can the ps3 and vita run 2 images at the same time like the wiiu does ?
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know if you’re going to clone Aeolus … at least spell Aeolus right.
Ridge Racer 7 still holds up against many other console racing games.
So by default you admit it, sInce you didn’t deny that the Wii U can run two images simultaneously at 1080p/60fps without a hitch and the ps3&psv can’t do toe same without some hiccups
The GamePad screen is only 480p…
720p.
It is 480p you stupid cunt.
480p look it up sucka!
The GamePad screen is 480p. Beedurp.
His response is somewhat regarding the embarrassing moments of past E3’s. If you watch the E3 video where the Ridge Racer was announced, you know it wasn’t expected (in a bad way) and didn’t leave a good impression. I don’t know about the game itself, though, but as I’ve seen in comments and public reactions, seems like it’s nothing Sony should be proud of.
Yep. Couldn’t have said it better myself. Thanks for explaining it.
An absolutely irrelevant response that served no purpose.
There are a good number of games on the PS3 that run full 1080p quite smoothly.
Almost all Vita owners have a PS3 ?
Like what, 3 people ?
hahhhahha you nailed it.
Has Sony lost it’s fucking mind?
PS Vita (Cheapest version) 249.99
PS3 (Cheapest version) 199.99
449.99 for a combo of the 2 which will not have a fraction of the games that would support such a WiiU like function compared to the WiiU which is manufactured strictly for the dual screen setup.
which costs 299.99 for the cheapest version.
Sony I love your games but sometimes you are outright fucking stupid!.
Just cause they can doesn’t mean anything! Same with SMARTGLASS… If the system isn’t built around the concept then only few/some titles will incorporate it. Add on accessories like KINECT & MOVE weren’t used nearly as much as the Wii Remote because there were just added on, not a system built specifically for them. In conclusion: FAIL SONY.
Let’s imagine that what they said is true, either it isn’t. It’ll cost 3x a Wii U, with no Zelda, Mario and METROID. No deal.
Wow, Sony, you can use 2 consoles to do the same thing one console can do by its own….
(sorry for bad english)
It’s getting really hard to be a Nintendo fan that also likes Sony. They need stop with this undeserved arrogant attitude.
Blame the media, not Sony.
Really? Why would set this kind of shit up?
Do you see how many comments and hits these articles get?
The media is the one asking specific questions they know will set their publication ablaze.
That’s some serious bullshit that they do this on purpose.
Yeah. From the original article:
“We were discussing the potential crossover between Vita and PS3 — the obvious comparison to Nintendo’s latest offering, the Wii U, and its tablet controller. The Vita and the PS3 are capable of producing similar functionality, and, if anything, with higher fidelity, as the Vita is a standalone console.
Koller says Sony invites the comparison.”
The media was the one who brought up the subject and it’s good PR to reply as Koller did.
Sonys fear is palpable. >:D
Notice that sony fanboys never post anything whenever sony makes obvious fail announcements…
Every time I read articles about Sony I realize how stupid some of their employees are.
Nintendo employees would never say something like that.
But hey, it’s Sony, what can you expect ?
“Nintendo employees would never say something like that.”
Oh, really? lol
No, really, they haven’t. Don’t be spiteful wastefully.
Don’t be blind, blatantly.
Didn’t Miyamoto take a stab at the VITA a lil while ago? :3
because Sony stab them first, saying that 3DS is a kiddy game console. hmmm seemms legit :3
Oh I’m sorry, I thought Nintendo Employees would never stab at a company for any reason? :3
I think he said its a good handheld but it’s only as good as the software it gets. Or something like that.
Few problems with this statement… 1: Nobody has a Vita 2: Even if people did, they wouldn’t have any quality games for people to play (with the exception of Uncharted, if that) 3: No Sony console will EVER be able to play The Legend of Zelda 4: You just can’t, you can’t play a game with up to five people, it’s a ridiculously small compared to the GamePad, and I have no interest in using it.
Cool story, Sony. But, exactly how many games will support them, especially with the PS4 going to come out at the very latest in 2 years. Developers will have to assume that 65 million PS3 owners also have the 2.5 million VITA’s that are currently sold.
its not 65 million remember some people brought 2,3 ps3’s because the pieces of shit kept burning out and some traded there old ps3 system for a slimmer model so the numbers is actually smaller than 65 million and the 2.5 million vita’s sales. those numbers was added with the psp sold this year so its really 2.5 million psp and vita sold combined
Doesn’t really change my argument, even if that was true.
Doesn’t really change my argument, even if that was true.
Sony: “PS3 and Vita can do everything the Wii U can. Except play games, but I don’t know why you’d buy a video game console to do that.”
Cool story bro.
If Sony really intends to compete with the Wii U using a Vita+PS3 combo, Sony has to seriously revamp their strategy. The Wii U will cost $300, $350 if you’re getting the Deluxe Package. A PS3 with decent memory will set you back $250, and a Vita will set you back for the same price. That totals at $500, all before buying a game. Even the $350 Wii U package comes with a game. Plus the Wii U includes everything needed for the combo, whereas PS3 and Vita are sold seperately. In order to increase awareness of the PS3 and Vita combo, they need to release a package that includes both a PS3 AND a Vita, and if they truly want to compete against the Wii U, it MUST include a pack-in game that takes advantage of the exclusive features gained from connecting a PS3 and a Vita, and this must all be done at a competetive price. If Sony wants the idea to sell and beat the Wii U, this bundle must be priced no more than $300, this includes the pack-in game.
But even if Sony is able to do this, it’s not enough without a ton of promotion and support for the technology. In any case, if Sony truly believes the PS3 and Vita offer the same thing the Wii U offers, they need to prove that it is more worth it than the Wii U, and that will be especially hard since the Wii U is a more powerful, and easier to develop for, console. To put all this in a shorter term of phrase, Sony has A LOT of work to do if they intend to compete with the Wii U using their PS3 and Vita, and considering their financial situation, I highly doubt Sony would be able to do any of this.
There’s also the fact that this generation is slowly but surely closing its doors. If Sony really wants to compete in the next generation by investing in the idea of Wii U using the PS3 and Vita, then we already know who will have the weakest hardware next generation, and we already know who would be in the toughest spot, so it would be stupid for Sony to do that. In short, trying to outperform the Wii U using the PS3 and Vita is way too much effort than it’s worth on Sonys part.
They can talk all they want about how the PS3 and Vita can easily do what Wii U does, but unless they are able to prove it and show it’s worth a better investment than Wii U, it doesn’t matter. If Sony wants to compete against the Wii U, they need a new console. end of story.
I’ll give you a +1 because you spent a lot of time typing this.
Blah blah blah Nintendo sucks ass blah blah rehash blah blah blah Sony can do waaay more than Nintendo blah blah you’re a Nintendrone fanboy shit faced crap turd scum of the world that should’ve been left behind blah blah Wii U is a current gen console blah blah
lol
You know, I usually never respond to these posts. It can be interesting to see what people think, either positive or negative. I have had all of Nintendo’s consoles, the PS2, and PS3. I don’t have an Xbox, but I may pick one up soon for Halo. All the companies have something to offer; my family’s favorite just happens to be Nintendo. And I think the Wii U will be a great machine to support GREAT GAMES! I don’t know if there is a universally accepted definition of the so-called core, or hardcore gamer, but I consider myself one because I like to play a lot. And I play a variety of games of different ratings and genres. To me, Nintendo has the best over all variety and quality, though probably wish Nintendo made some different choices as far as their consoles capabilities. But no company is perfect, and to me they have the best IPs. The Wii U will have those same IPs, and apparently will have more, in addition to greater third party support. I hope it does well over all, but regardless, I will get one because it will have the games I enjoy. But I digress. I did not respond to say all that, but it lets you know a bit about my perspective.
I am reponding to Aeolus. Your above responce: Really? I mean REALLY? It honestly puzzles me as to why you and others like you do what you do. We all have the freedom to say whatever we want. That is a given. But what is the point of coming to a gamesite of a company you obviously do not like, simply to trash talk and call people names who disagree with you? BTW, I also dissagree with those who respond with name calling and imature language. Even if some says something wrong or gives inaccurate info, does that make them, stupid, or worse, an a__hole?
I guess it is obvious. You simply get off on getting under other peoples skin. It is like people who creaet viruses just to make others suffer. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and chosing to believe that you are more intelligent than this and some of the comments you make. Like. ” 3D is for little kids and adds nothing to the visual experience, it’s also stupid.” Really? Come on now. 3DS, 3D movies, 3D tvs? 3D is not for everyone, but obviously alot of companies and individuals disagree with you. Are you stupid for not likng 3D? No, but your statement about it is, to say the least, not very intelligent.
I have been reading these polls for a while and see posts like yours and others quite a bit. I do not go to Sony game sites or Xbox game sites, because my primary interest is Nintendo, but I am sue the are probably some Nintendo fans that do the same imature garbage there too, and they are equally as wrong. I am not saying that you or others cannot say something critical about Nintendo, but to come to a site like this, and do nothing but trash Nintendo and those who like them is a colossal waste of time. You have GOT to have something bettet to do that is a bit more positive. I can go on, but suffice it to say that there are no words foul or harsh enough to describe how repugnant and idiotic trolls are.
Others here have asked why you come here to do this, and I don’t remember any answer to that direct question. You are acting like an adolescent child or an adult of equivalent mentality. As a matter of fact, there are many children who have more sense that this. I emplore you, show more respect for yourself and others and stop.
I have probably wasted my time, but I had to get it out and maybe you will listen.
You really believed I was a aeolus? Lol I did a good job then.
You really believed I was aeolus? Lol I did a good job then. xD
Sorry! But you obviously know that this was not meant for you. I only hope Aelous and others like him/her see it.
Lol it’s cool no need to apologize. And yeah I agree with ya but aeolus is a fanboy, he won’t listen to reason.
but unfortunately providing enough and unique games aren’t one of them
So, 20 years ago it was “Genesis does what Nintendon’t.”
Now we’ve come down to “PlayStation also does what Nintendoes, if you kinda squint.”
but paying almost double… lol
This is why I respect Nintendo, they never talk trash, only other companies do.
Sony isn’t talking trash here. -.-
And Nintendo has taken shots at competitors several times. C’mon, don’t be a blind sheep. All companies compete.
well, your statement is a kinda true. Sony didn’t trash talk about the Wii U in this IN THIS ! article.
…..Yeah, you keep believing that.
I love how sony doesnt know that the Vita its a handheld so they sell it to you as a controller
We’re back to the nineties! Literally! Sony VS Nintendo! herpderplulz
Wow Sony, that’s incredible! So, can I see all the games that are built for the actual combination of ps3 and vita? Also, can I see the bundle which offers both of those consoles at a price similar to the Wii U’s?
You should post more often, Chiil guy.
You know, I see your icon as this little gem. If I see it I know the post above is either hilarious or meaningful. Thank you for this service apathetic link :3
no problem fellow citizen
this post is fuckin retarded cause let me see here we have the PS Vita with all the fixings and the PS3 your looking at $600 for what Sony says the Wii U can do? yea OK i would like to see Sony win customers that way that don’t have either Vita or PS3. the Wii U has the gamepad with the system cause as someone else said in here, Nintendo built it around the console at $300. hmm i think i will stick with Nintendo and pay 300 dollars less to have the better experience vs 600 dollars for what SONY says they can do better. SMH this is sad.
That’s right kids for 2x as much money you can buy last gen hardware and a slow selling handheld capable of somewhat emulating what the Wii U does out of the box. Don’t worry though, in a year or so we’ll be releasing a completely new console rendering your old one obsolete and the money you spent wasted.
I cracked up when I read this. Graphics don’t make good gameplay, but they make it a better experience sometimes and the Wii U IS BETTER. The Gamepad has many more buttons and the Vita/PS3 only has like 4 games that can crossplay.
Problem is no one has a vita …. Or wants one…
Well, $ony, I don’t believe it. Why not? Because the Wii U has lots of support form third-parties, and it is a technology that was created to primaly work with it. The cross play between the Vita and PS3 is a mere gimmick, at best, Both PSV and PS3 have different capacities and specs, thus, any game that uses this cross play feature will never be able to utilize both consoles’ full capacities, at least not the way Wii U does (switching between TV and GamePad screen, playing on the controller alone). That, and the fact that you have to buy both consoles to utilize it, thus making it much more expensive than the Wii U. And regarding the Vita sales, no third-party industry will be interested in making this cross play obligatory in any game, wich will kill this gimmick.
If you want people and third-party industries to believe the PS3 + PSV combo can do at least half of what the Wii U does, first you have to sell more PSVs than you’re selling (let’s say about 1 million per month), make games that would make people want to buy the PSV for, and make something amazing utilizing the cross play feature obligatory. If you succeed, you’ll have to keep this rhythm to get some support from third parties.
The reason the combo won’t work is because being two different devices, they operate differently from each other, making the connection not fit for being a rival to the Wii U!
http://i.imgur.com/Ga7y5.jpg
“We tell our PlayStation fans all the time that what the Wii U is offering is something that Vita and PS3 can do quite easily. It’s not just about the functionality, however, it’s about whether implementing that functionality makes any sense. “It’s dependent on the content. So we need to make sure the content isn’t force fed. And, to us, making sure that the gamer receives the right type of experience is what’s most important. So we’re gonna pick our spots, but that technology does certainly exist here.”
Force Fed experience? What? what kind of bullshit am i reading here. I dont get Sony sometimes, when a Rep says something like this it makes me wonder why and how Sony are still in business. just because the so called technology is there doesnt mean that it will be successful, come on Sony, get your head out of your asses and think here. i seen the conference where the little big planet game was using this function and it is so damn confusing that my brain couldnt register what was happening. and good point that maxx made that ps vita only has like 4 or 5 games where you can use this feature. so dammit sony give this up and go back to the drawing board. Sony = asshole thinking.
Yep, the crossplay is a gimmick. It’s in no way necessary.
Just like the Wii U.
Wii U is built to work specifically on it, it’s not a gimmick. A gimmick is an added feature that isn’t the console’s priority and isn’t well work out. Let me explain it like this: as far as my knowledge goes, the crossplay isn’t needed for any of the 4 games that actually use it. It’s merely an added feature that adds little stuff to gameplay, and not many people are willing to spend time or money buying it.
As for Wii U, it’s not a gimmick, because it’s an integrated feature: you don’t need any other expensive product to fully utilize it’s capacity, and everyone is willing to go as far as the console’s capacities go to bring us amazing games.
That’s what a gimmick is. Well, not that using logic against Aeolus works, but I have free right time now.
You simply cannot beat that logic. I tip my (non-existant) hat to you, sir.
Gimmick – A trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business.
That is what this system is the very textbook definition of. Therefore I don’t see the discrepancy.
I don’t understand why people call everything a gimmick. I like the fact companies like Nintendo & Sony are offering new ways to play and giving choice to us consumers. You guys can hate on companies if you want, but I’ll be enjoying the best of all worlds. :3
Let me just dust off my GBA…
Hey I just thought somthing. SONY is acually promoting Nintendo. Think about it “The Wii U is like having two consoles at once” plus with way better features.
It’s just that the vita+ps3 is $200 more then the WiiU so WiiU is looking a lot more inviting.
Hey everyone I heard Sony fanboys support Mitt Romney
I wish companies wouldn’t spend so much time tearing each other down. Both the PS3 and the upcoming Wii U are great systems with cool franchises. Can’t they just play nice?
Nintendo never says anything mean, its Sony that starts everything. Sony is trolling as their super shitty slim pussy 3 wont keep up to the wii u.
When Nintendo takes jabs at other companies it’s actually smart and not some brainless nonsense. Case and point
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89GB6bC9_N4
(Skip to 8:00)
this video is a great representation even though its old, reggie has been all about doing rather than talking and sony always wants what they cannot have and that is success and innovation.
Nintendo takes jabs. Make no mistake.
Sony isn’t trolling anything. A member of the media asked a question, they answered. Chill out.
So to sum up what Sony just said: “Some of the Wii U’s functions are available for the Vita and PS3 for just $150 more than the Wii U, but keep in mind that we’re not actually going to use them.”
So a $300 console plus a $250 handheld equals Wii U, huh? I’ll take my chances with the Wii U. Haven’t found a reason to get a Vita yet.
Because it has 2 newer colors. Pssss HAHAHAHH :) sony sucks.
HAHAHAHAHA SONY. So Let me get this strait, YOU NEED 2 SONY PRODUCTS TO MAKE A WII U. Yeah u guys are very tougher with specs.
The mindless Sony worshipers will be the only ones who will actually believe this statement. They must take everything at face value all the time.
“It does the same thing as the Wii U!”
“Wow, I’m not even going to confirm it because it’s totally true! Sony, just rob me of my money, because clearly I deserve it for being such a dumbass!”
Exept that everyone with a Wii U will have a Gamepad, but not all that got a PS3 will have a Vita, meaning that in the case of Sony,that will be a gimmick, just like the kinect is for the X Box 360, meanwhile in Nintendo that would be an important part of the system/game.
I was considering a ps vita as i felt bad, but fuk it now. Sony gtfo i aint buying their overpriced shit.
Congrats, but why aren’t that many people buying both consoles? I mean yeah I can believe that it can do it but… just why keep stating it? It seems like a cry for attention….
MyNintendoNews and its trolls hardest hit.
Oh no c’mon.. again? this is like the third fucking time they say so….. Everybody does fucking know the ps3 and the vita JUST CANNOT…..Seriously, I got sick and tired of PONY… fuck off PONY!!!!!!!!!!!
But Wii U can play Nintendo games
And still no one will buy the Vita.
TWO HUNDRETH
Give The 3DS Gravity Rush and I will Be Happy with That…….besides that I feel the Vita has great potential and it is not being supported. Sony has enough exclusive sto fend off Nintendo……but there is one thing……Nintendo IS the King of the Handheld market…….soooooooolive wit it . and as for the ps3/vita hook up….I like it but I dont see enough third party support for this combination. Just dont see the ps3/vita doing what Nintendoes.
Then why don’t they? They accuse Nintendo of copying them and stealing technology all the time so, put your money where your mouth is and do it before November 18. And not sharing a profile like Monster Hunter, I want to see every function that the Wii U has since it would be so easy to do. If you can’t do it, then shut the fuck up you desperate faggots and go back to work on your next graphic oriented failure.
http://twitter.com/jmbrown95/status/248962466166501376/photo/1
Told you he was a fan boy
That is a message for the Sony fan who hates both Nintendo and Microsoft with all their might.
but for fans who enjoy both systems…I’m sorry but there’s is not comparison. I’m sticking with Nintendo.
Me too, I absolutely despise Sony because they copy Nintendo so much. PlayStation Move. Seriously?
PlayStation Move dates back to 2001. Nice try though.
No, it was released in 2010. Are you referring to the Eyetoy?
You dumb shit, things take time to develop. Wii U dates back to 2007 but it’s just now releasing.
No need to cuss at a kid. I’m 13 dude. I don’t think that’s true. obviously things do take time to develop, but it did not start in 2001.
It started in 2001 …
Ok, I’ll believe it, but Nintendo didn’t copy. Noone knew about it in 2006.
No one copied anyone.
I now believe that.
You’re 13 and you discuss with logic? That’s amazing! I thought every 13 y.o. boy on internet was bashing something about sleeping with someone else’s mother while playing CoD games in their living rooms yelling to their mothers to bring junk food before they die. Faith in humanity restored!
Nope, Ii hate violent video games and yes I am a very logical person. Thanks :)
“PlayStation Move dates back to 2001. Nice try though.”
4 words for you: kirby tilt n tumble
That is all.
…..Datasoft’s LeStick.
Nah the whole motion gaming in Nintendo vs Sony.
You don’t have an argument anymore; that type of motion is nothing comparable to it. Sit down.
It is still motion gaming is it not?
Yeah, generic tilt sensitive gyroscopes have a lot to do with wands with location tracking.
Well if we get technical, they both copied Atari’s LeStick.
True, but there were no games designed to support that. You are right though.
*Datasofts LeStick.
Sony is desperate cause it knows Nintendo will be a beast of a gaming console….Nintendo fans have many games of every genre to look forward to. Okay Sony/Micro (ex-Nintendo gamers who were mad at Nintendo because of the Wii console) you can come back home now Wii U will make it all better! Hahaha!
If the world ends this Dec. 21, 2012 then it’ll end with a bang cause I’m gonna play my Wii U till the heavens fall from the sky! Fuck it! Although I hope it doesn’t, still need to play the new Zelda, Metroid, Starfox, and whatever else Nintendo is bringing to Wii U! Hahahaha!
It’s not,bro.
Fun fact: The world did not add daylight savings time or a leap year until after the Mayans, Aztecs, Egyptians, etc. all made their prediction about the world ending in December of 2012. So really the world should have ended about 9 months ago.
Let’s see the Sonydrones, like Aeolus and DaPyroShow eat it up
Vita’s not sellin well, so try harder Sony :P
I was going to debate… but 300 people beat me to it.
I’ll just stay down here…
Sony is lying, PS3 and Vita can not do what Wii U does and that is the only reason that they don’t even try. The Wii U can run two screens at once while other players use Wiimotes. Vita has less triggers, the back touchscreen is stupid. Vita hurts to hold while using those little control sticks for long. Sony is losing and knows PS4 is a long way off.
Cool story bro.
PS4 wont be out for a couple of years at least. By then the Wii U will have a huge userbase. Sony is gonna need all the help it can get. 4K resolution and slightly better textures aint gonna cut it.
Nor will a gigantic leap in power.
If anything, the costs of developing games that take full advantage of an immense power leap to its fullest will scare off the majority.
I’m hoping Sony will be smarter than that and scale back their power leap plans.
I’d love to get a PS4, but not if its an over-priced sparkly-shit-emitter.
You don’t know anything about technology advancements throughout the past few years, especially GPU advancements. So your entire argument is invalid until you can legitimately prove there won’t be a gigantic leap in power.
And you won’t because you’re not actually intelligent in this field, just in whining like a little pussy who everyone beats up in school.
………k.
The Wii U is a better deal for me. I don’t have to run out and buy a 3DS just to play Wii U games away from the TV (although I am looking forward to the transfer save file feature of MH3U). I can get a handheld device packaged in with a full gaming console for $300 instead of buying a PS3 and a Vita. Plus Sony doesn’t have enough software to interest me. Nintendo has all of it’s first party titles, Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter, Professor Layton, and much more. The Wii U is getting alot of great 3rd party games as well. So really I was smart in waiting for a Wii U instead of buying a PS3 and Vita.
For $200 extra and no guarantee on every game.
The main difference is nintendo is cheaper and more advanced, so get lost sony
when I want to buy a TV I think of Sony, when I want to buy a computer software I think of Microsoft, but when I want to have play some games and have fun I think of…. NINTENDO!!!
microsony needs to make a xpad and a playpad or something better because the gpad is about to convert many
Got to watch out for that 3 million install base! Lol 3DS sold more than that in it’s FIRST DAY
Yes, yes it can. For twice the price.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=147883
TECHNICAL FACT FOLLOWS
PSVITA HAS INDIVIDUAL AP AD ONS FOR SINGLE REMOTE PLAY EXPERIENCES THE WIIU IS ALMOST AUTO MATIC IN SENDING A FULL GAME TO THE PAD IT TAKES DEVELOPERS MINUTES TO DO THIS
EACH AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL GAME ON PS3 NEEDS A SPECIAL PROGRAME WRITTEN TO GET IT UP AND RUNNING REMOTELY”” SONY WHY LIE”” THE VITA CANNOT DO REMOTE PLAY OF THE BAT ITS A JUMP THRU HOOPS SOFTWARE CHALENGE ON AGAME BY GAME BASIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SONY CAN YOU SHOW ME PSVITA NOT ONLY REMOTE PLAYING BUT DUAL SCREEEN PLAYING AND BEATING THE TV ITS SELF AT REFRESH AND FRAMES PROVING THE PAD TOTALLY LAG FREE
PLEASE SHOW ME THIS SONY AS I KNOW FULL WELL IT AND YOU CANNOT DO THIS VITA DOESNT HAVE NO LAG LIKE WIIU GAMEPAD AGAIN U LIE SONY
TOUCHSCREENS COULD U PLEASE SHOW ME VITAS MULTI TOUCH NOT LAGGING AND WILST YOUR AT IT CAN U SHOW ME STYLUS CONTROL ON IT AND HAND WRITING PLEASE AND CAN U SHOW MDE ANY MULTI TOUCH PAD SCREEN BEATING A NINTENDO TOUCHSCREEN AT SPEED AND NOT LAGGING AS ITS INDUSTRY FACT MULTI TOUCH LAGS AND HAS NO STYLUS AND NO 1MM AIM LIKE A MOUSE AND NO MOUSE LIKE NUB PEN OR STYLUS ABILITY LAG FREE GUESS WHAT WIIU GAMEPAD HAS
SONY YOU LIE
SO AGAIN SONY COULD YOU ALSO SHOW ME 1080P ON A TV SET 1080P AND 480P ON THE CONTROL SCREEN BOTH DOING 60 FRAMES SO TOTAL IS 120 FRAMES (WHAT U CLAIMED FOR PS3 ISNT IT)
COME ON SONY STEP OUT SIDE THERES A REAL MAN WAITING FOR U
IM STILL WAITING SONY FOR 4D GRAPHICS AND 120 FRAMES AND DUAL OUT 1080P TO 2 TV SETS
IM STILL WAITING SONY ……………………..SONY THAT IDIOT KID AT SCHOOL SMOKING ACTUAL GRASS FROM THE SCHOOL YARD AND TELLING THE OTHER KIDS HE SMOKING WEED
SONY WE GUNA BEAT U UP YOUR A BS BOY
…..Are you drugs?
Lol whoops. I mean … Are you on drugs? xD
not yet just finished work il be toking in a minute tho BOUY no im not on drugs but i do sit on £200k i made in nintendo stock so u just got pimped didnt u
prove me wrong thats all wiiboy101 has ever asked prove me wrong iv been doing thsi shit from 2003 yet to be proven wrong
when i said in 2003 disruption tactics would be used by nintendo the likes of u giggled
when i decribed the wii controls 99% perfectly 12 months before nintendo shown them again i was giggled at
when i told idiots like yo self that sony would be going 3rd [party not the sleeping dragon nintendo again i was insulted by the likes of u
wen ki said il putting my inheritance were my mouth was in april 2005 and put every penny i had in to nintendo stock i was told by idiots nintendo was going software only 3rd party
yes im on drugs i have genius power my own body creats it and sends it to my brain
didnt i single handedly close down KOMBO.COM oh yes i did on drugs theres no drugs for dna perfection im 40 mate look at my facebook profile i look 25
i rest my case young man I AM THE MAN
What the fuck are you smoking?
SHOW ME PSVITA SCREEN LOOKING INTO TV SCREEN THE WAY WIIU DOES LAG FREE SHOW ME THIS SONY
SEE U ALL SOON GUYS PLAYING BAYONETA ON WIIU EXCLUSIVELY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVa-dEb3p00
hahahahahhahahaha psvita lag allllllllllllllllllll over youtube psvita controls lag on its self never mind a tv set wirless hahahahahahhahha sony are wankers
Disgusting console. Sony go fuck yourself! The vita is the worst piece of technology ever created.
apparntly stating deviable fact makes me a drug user hahahahahahahahha FUK OFF
Well, with the way you spell, it wouldn’t shock me.
Its not the same… Wii U can render 2 different screens + same screen on TV or Wii U gamepad and PS3/Vita same screen on TV or Vita.
to be honest it is good if you won’t to stream ps1 games to your vita from the ps3 but for most other things i not had much success with it. also it took an age to set up and lags on even some ps1 games. so no i don’t think it does the same as a Wii U. as well as this to buy them both cost around £520 that’s 320gb model any smaller is useless while the wii u costs £249 for basic and £299 for the 32gb and you can expands the with sd cards and plug in hard drives. also the Wii U has better graphics. denial is what that guy has got
No it cant…SOny sucks.
You Nintendo fanboys are in total denial. Take it from me – I’ve been sucking Jack Koeler’s dick!
http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG7k5cCF5Q5XsAnvJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0NGkyczU2BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNwRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA1FJMDI2XzE0MQ–/SIG=137hlrc03/EXP=1348368604/**http%3a//n4g.com/news/1063690/ps3-and-vita-cross-buy-potential-is-limited-sony-admits
Just sayan(dbz pun intended)….
Playstation…U Mad?
I’m sure to some extent it could, but I feel Nintendo has a different type of control on the Wii U gamepad. Microsoft definitely stole their Smart Glass idea from Nintendo, but I feel like Sony had the idea around the same time, and they’ll implement it much differently. For example, I don’t see us being able to set the Vita on the floor and swinging the Move controller over it as if we were golfing. So it could do some of the things The Wii U has to offer, but not in such a dynamic way.
http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG7k5cCF5Q5XsAnvJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0NGkyczU2BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNwRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA1FJMDI2XzE0MQ–/SIG=137hlrc03/EXP=1348368604/**http%3a//n4g.com/news/1063690/ps3-and-vita-cross-buy-potential-is-limited-sony-admits
While I agree with some points made a lot of your are forgetting that any game made for wii u (zombie u for example) couldn’t be ported to ps3/vita cross play for a simple reason-vita doesn’t have all the buttons the wii u controller has I.e. FOUR shoulder buttons and there is no compensation for this. The vita itself has a designe did advantage over the wii u not to mention a price disadvantage. For $50 more you can buy Nintendo’s next-gen console. Not to mention that the ps3 is only capable of doing 720p and can only upscale to 1080p where as the wii u is 1080p native. The vita ps3 combo does have the advantage of take it wherever u go but like mentioned above how many ps3 owners have a vita too? I’ve watched again and again the cross play vs wii u. The images on the screen for cross play are slightly lagging behind what u are doing on the big screen and the vita has a processor/the wii u on the other hand the images on the controller are about .7 sec faster then what appears on your tv-with no processor in the controller which means laggy screens are near impossible