The Associated Press says that the holiday season will be key for Nintendo’s Wii U as it battles against the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One. The news association contacted Steve Boxer, a game reviewer for The Guardian and an avid gamer who said “If I was Nintendo, I would be thinking very hard about some means of damage limitation.”. On the latest Super Mario 3D World game, Boxer said it is a “very good game with classic Mario-type platform game action, but it doesn’t feel like it’s something new and fresh.” Other Japanese analysts have also give their input, which you can read below.
Eiji Sato, analyst at Toyo Securities, said Nintendo needs “killer content” for the Wii U to turn around its business after a weak lineup of game titles added to its woes. That has caught the company in a vicious cycle because developers are reluctant to create games for a poor-selling console.
Another price cut is a strong possibility for the Wii U if sales stay sluggish, said Sato, the Toyo Securities analyst. Nintendo has 460 billion yen in cash ($4.4 billion) and is prepared to survive a bad sales year or two, he said. Still, some say it’s time for Nintendo to change rather than take comfort in its big cash pile.
“Nintendo should broaden its revenue stream in order to grow,” said Tomoaki Kawasaki, senior analyst at IwaiCosmo Securities. Nintendo has strong software, with hit titles like Super Mario and Zelda, so it may be prudent to make that content mobile while preserving Nintendo’s style, he said.
First ?
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I have the better question: Blue Shell?
” Nintendo has strong software, with hit titles like Super Mario and Zelda, so it may be prudent to make that content mobile while preserving Nintendo’s style, he said.”
Don’t they have the 3DS for that?
You know there might be a smart way for Nintendo to utilize Mobile,
They can Make some of there classics from the NES, SNES, GB, GBC, GBA and games from those consoles can be on mobile and if they were to price some of those games’ they could price them say either .99, $1.99 or 2.99 that to me would seem reasonable they can’t make it free or they could make it free at first then after a day or 5 hours then you would have to buy the game and the free part of the game say Super Mario Advance 2 SMW Worlds 1 & 2 could be free but to play the other worlds you’d have to pay either .99. , $1.99 , or $2.99 that is in my opinion they could utilize mobile with there old games.
Killing the Virtual Console is not a smart idea.
Virtual console is charging too much. Snes games are skimpily not worth 7.99 20 years later. Yes charge 60 for your new titles
Uhhh, at least you don’t have to get the originals, some can rack up to 60 bucks. Super Metroid being one of them.
“Snes games are not worth 7.99” guess you haven’t seen mobile games huh?
;)
Most mobile games are simple crap worth .99 I agree. I paid 75$ for super metroid years ago. My point is, Nintendo has already made their profit off the old titles
You have the intelligence to properly make sentences and paragraphs and still came out sounding stupid lol.
shut up
Please understand we at Nintendo want our games only on Nintendo! If wea put our games on a cell phone we lessen the value of our games.
It doesn’t lessen the value of their games, it lessens the value of their consoles. If you can buy their games on phones, what’s the point in owning a 3DS or Wii U? That being said, putting Classic games only on mobile probably won’t hurt them.
You don’t understand the business. If we put are games on mobile phones or other platforms it will lessen the quality of the game because the game is a best on the Nintendo! If you don’t understand me, please understand I am Japanese not English speaker!
this guys should really read sellign charts
the WiiU already started selling a lot(for now)
also, the 3DS is leading the charts over 2 years
this guys are just a bunch of wanna be experts
nintendo will be fine with 3ds sales helping the out.
That’s aperfect Idea to make less money than with the ads, great. no 10 hit mobile games combined make as much money as one mario game on ads
3DS
Why do people think moble gaming is gold mine? Not a lot of success comes from it, its often rare. Square took a hit from it, and so have others. The fate of the wii u is 2014 nintendo has a good flowing going from what we have heard. Mario kart and Smash are the big titles coming. Yes while smash is coming on 3DS doesn’t mean the wii u is in danger. The 3ds version is casual, while the wii u will be for core smash fans.
There is no way to “to make that content mobile while preserving Nintendo’s style”.
Wii U is starting to sell, guys. No need to worry anymore. The big games aren’t even coming until next year and the Wii U has already started picking u steam.
If i see one more stupid-ass analyst suggest that nintendo turn its first party games into mobile game trash, I’m going to flip a table right into their faces!
Stop it analysts, lol. A mega hit mobile makes how much money, 200 mill? mario kart 7 on ads made 2 billion. They would destroy nintendo if they did it, don’t you get that??? ninty is much too huge for mobile. When do those analysts leave finally!!!????
Fuck those fucking analysts.
Fuck ALL of you
If those guys were nintendo they weren’t around for 100 years like nintendo is,, those analyst whores fuck them
Wii U is sure to hit 800K to nearly 1 mil units worldwide for the month of Dec 2013. It’s looking like the Wii U might be able to reach a LTD of 7.5mil or nearly 8 mil in sales ending March 2014. Sure they’ll miss their figures by a million or a million and a half a poor showing due to lack of software for the 1st half of 2013. But it’ll be far from the disaster that many so called analyst and media are saying they would reach (5 mil-6mil by end of March 2014). Already Wii U is selling quite well in Gamestops, Targets, Walmarts, and BestBuys. I’ve been constantly been in touch with those store managers and all have said a big boost from an already healthy November. With some even saying it is selling twice as much as last month’s rate. (could just be the holidays…but still)
Please understanmd we at Nintendo have no interest in a making games for the mobile platform we are going to keep supporting only Wii U, Wii, Nintendo 3DS, and Nintendo DS in the near future.
Please understand Pikmin 4 will need online.
Price cut, price cut. Just Stop! They did a price cut, and that’s enough. Another price cut would be the same as I putting price cuts on software already on sale at my work.
What would have happened ? I would have got fired after a little while.
The Wii u’s sales are and have been going up for a while, so I think Nintendo is doing just fine. Time will tell.
Wii U is already selling quite well this December. Let’s take a look at how Jan does (how much drop off from Dec) before even considering a price cut.
maybe it doesn’t feel like something new and fresh to someone who’s already played super mario 3d land but it sure as hell does to everyone else that i’ve heard of
It’s not. Mario gameplay hasn’t really evolved since Galaxy, the only thing they do to make the next game different is come up with a new powerup, and most of thoe aren’t even creative (a lot of them are reskins of other powerups and don’t have a unique.gameplay function). The settings are always rehashed, the same generic level tropes every game. It’s even gotten to the point where they’re rehashing level gimmicks (look at 3D Land and tell me how many level ideas are ripped from Galaxy 2). It’s all really derivative and makes it feel like you’re playing the same game over and over again.
The Wii U in general seems to be having this problem, many of the games simply don’t have a unique “hook” that makes them worth playing over their predeccesor, and in general there’s no game for Wii U that sticks out and says “Hey, this is a neat game that I couldn’t play on a previous console, I must buy a Wii U so I can play it”.
Not to bait you, but what is the PS4 and Xbox offering which is not available on a previous console?
lol there’s no answer to that
I never said Microsoft and Sony aren’t guilty of this as well. But those two build their consoles around being higher quality games consoles with a huge variety of third party games and multimedia features. It doesn’t take as much to please their fanbase, they just need better graphics and the next CoD game basically. Nintendo is a bit more complex than that because their consoles are geared more towards innovative play styles and higher quality first party games. The fanbase has come to expect new and exciting games because that’s what Nintendo has done in the past. So for them to fail to innovate in their games is more damaging than it would be for Microsoft and Sony.
As a Sonydrone, Xboxdrone, Call of Duty fanboy, graphic whore, Nintendo hater and troll (feel free to add on to the list), I agree with your comment on Nintendo having higher game quality expectations.
I agree with this as a big Nintendo fan. I’ve been bored with all of the wii u games. I have the money and am dying to spend it on a must have title. The 3ds on the other hand has some must have games
Ignoring 3D Mario world is a must have tittle.
Ignoring 3D World sells that conflict with your statment though. Also ignoring that it’s the first 3D platformer with 4 players and ignoring COD, GTA, Mortal Kombat, Resident Evil and Halo. Whats different in those sequels?
And if originality is so important, why did W101 and Knack flop then?
And what is 3D World doing that other games have not? The gameplay is built off 3D Land. The levels are rehashed from previous games. The plot and settings are similar. The fact that it’s the first 3D game to use co-op isn’t something new because it was done in NSMB Wii and NSMBU in the same way, the switch from 2D to 3D does nothing for that mechanic. The closest thing to an actual innovation is being able to use the Gamepad to uncover objects, and that’s not that interesting a feature. The Mario games aren’t really doing enough to make themselves feel new and original, it’s been the same crap over and over since Galaxy.
Ignoring what I said less than 30mins.ago. if originality is a system seller, why aren’t Knack W101 and Pikmin top ten like GTA, CoD and Mario?
In 15 minutes Bolt will forger GTA 1-5, Mortal combats.1 -13, and Halo 1-6 ain’t no different from.each other and have high sells. Also ignoring more games like that sell better than originals or new coming franchises. Also ignoring Banjo Nuts and bolts is different from Kazooie and Tooie and sucks. And Sega can’t get Sonic as good as Sonic Adventure 2. Lost worlds is totally different from Sonic Adventure 2 and after the demo.of Lost Worlds I don’t want to buy it.
Does anyone prefer Nuts and bolts over Tooie? I want the old Threeie sequel
People don’t want Mini characters in smash bros. Also ignoring more people prefer Melee over Brawl
Also ignoring some people after playing 3D Mario world still wants a Galaxy sequel. So focusing on a franchise and trying to be different doesn’t promise a success. After all. 3D World and 3D Land lasted in top ten longer than. DreamTeam.
*Mii I know I sure as hell don’t.
Nuts and Bolts isn’t a true sequel to Banjo Kazooie, it’s a spinoff that fails to capture the essence of the originals.
But its totally different from Tooie. You wanted something different from a sqeal I brought it too u and exposed u. Same bear and bird totally different and every way.
Here since you have short term you said this:.” The Mario games aren’t really doing enough to make themselves feel new and original, it’s been the same crap over and over since Galaxy.”
So you bitching about the same crap over now Threeie was in development before they left Nintendo. And people wished Njts and bolts was a sequel. Also ignoring people wished for a DK64 sequel.
So according to u nuts and volts should have been a sccuess because it wasn’t a rehash from Tooie.
You’ve missed the point. It’s not simply about being different, it’s about building on what previous games have done in a meaningful way. Look at what some of the past Mario games have done. 64 took Mario gameplay into 3D and added an exploration element to the game. Sunshine introduced a new mechanic that adds something to the platforming (which TBH didn’t add much in execution, but the concept is good and more along the lines of what I’m thinking of). Galaxy brought unique level design and utilized motion controls to create new gameplay experiences. Different is only really good when it expands on existing gameplay, you can’t simply take an existing franchise and go in a completely different direction with it, fans won’t really like that.
Also ignoring a few ex rare employees wants to make a Tools sequel. Funny he didn’t say a Nuts n’ bolts sequel. Why not? According to u a different Mario game would be a success. I know one thing if Nintendo changes the formula of Pikmin I would probably be pissed and wouldn’t buy it.
Will if it is so bad that 3D world is revised why is Mario a success and Pikmin ain’t? Back to my earlier question? W101 and Lego City is totally different t with the gamepad and Lego City is a GTA like concept. Why isn’t that a success? Splinter Sell for Wii U has unique functions why isn’t that a success and Nintendoland. Don’t touch my Mario plat former formula you would make it flop.
Hell I don’t even think Mario Kart 8 will do much with the GamePad neither. Smash Bros won’t use the gamepad’s potential neither but off TV mode like3D Mario. Yet that’s expected to be a success.
neither of those games are original knack is just a mario clone
lol ur ignoring everything he wrote at 2:57 also knack released on a console with a low install base and late release. what’s wii u’s excuse for 101 being out on wiiu which had a full year and 2 weeks on shelves longer than ps4 and still flopping?
adding on to that ps4 hasnt come out yet for japan
well most of those games you listed had online which added replayability value unlike 3d world
Bear in mind these are analysts from the uk. The Wii U is selling like garbage in the UK. If I hear one more so-called ‘expert’ say that Nintendo should go into mobile gaming though, I will go spare. These guys know nothing about why Nintendo have been successful.
This article has appeared in 5 papers. It is complete bs.
The WiiU is, as we speak, climbing the amazon japan charts. They are selling more and more every week. Mario 3d world is awesome and the Japanese kids are telling each other about it and it is shifting units. Analysts should be asking: when the fan boys stop buying PS4 and xbox one, who is their market? That question is a much better news story.
Nintendo needs to invest in larger development teams by recruiting more programmers. Nintendo needs to make more better games. Nintendo should put pro controller and Wiimote plus nunchuck in every Wii U box with Gamepad. Nintendo needs to make multiplayer hit and schedule more releases. Wii U suffered from delays of game releases so much that the drought killed the Wii U. Pikmin 3 was delayed for a year, Wonderful 101 was delayed, now Donkey Kong Returns TF is delayed. People are sick of waiting for Mario Kart 8 and SSB Wii U. LOZ Skyward Sword for Wii had a development cycle that was too long and it released way too late in Wii life cycle. Nintendo can’t support Wii U with enough content to justify purchase of Wii U.
wii u will be fine!
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Ughh I can’t help but cringe when I see anyone say anything about Nintendo games on any other consoles… They just don’t GET Nintendo… Its sad for them
Does it bother anyone that it has been a year since the WiiU launched yet there are no games that support two gamepad?
Good point. It would have to be something optional or an extra feature to a game. That’s an expensive burden I doubt they want to put on the consumer
It could be a multiplayer option. I want something like Borderlands 2 and have two player split screen and the other two players on two gamepads.
Please understand we at Nintendo will be announcing games in the future that use two gamepads DIRECTLY TO YOU!
Iwanta said this early this year. But when it comes to Nintendo, trolls have short-term memory. They forgot just like they forgot Wii U sales have been increasing.
Most of those games don’t even use one Gamepad, let alone two. The Gamepad’s been largely useless in most of the Wii U’s lineup, they could’ve easily removed it and you’d lose very little from the games.
Its like they’ve been thrashing in quicksand for the past year. NINTENDOMINATION! lol.
Anyway, I hope they pull through, cuz this is embarrassing…
Embarrassing? Fromk 2k in Japan to 74k with no advertising until 3D World?
Indeed…
Imagine this coming year now that High Command started to market the Wii U…
I’ve seen commercials a lot lately…
Yeah
I predict that the Wii U will go the way of the Dreamcast. Whats the logic behind releasing a nextgen console only capable of current gen graphics?
I predict the Playstation Vita will go the way of the DreamCast before Nintendo allows the Wii U to go into oblivion. My reason, just that the Vita is flopping harder than the Wii U despite numerous attempts by Sony (who is in dire financial straits) to revive the dead handheld!
Sony is in more financial trouble than Nintendo. But the media is hidding that info.
Are you done yet? Cause’ from the looks of it your waste of a console is, Lol! Dont own a Vita, but would buy that before a Wii U. Heck I’d buy a dreamcast before I’d buy a Wii U!!! Enjoy your sinking ship.
Ignoring Wii U’s 3rd party graphics depends on the developer not the console. Also ignoring Wii U can handle 2k to 8k textures. Now in 12 hours you will forget and think Wii U is an x86 with 3 cores.
this is obvious for any non blind personnel.
I was just in a Japanese classroom with 40 Japanese kids. I asked them what they wanted for Christmas. They all said a Nintendo WiiU.
Yeah and I’m a monkey’s uncle
Considering humans are monkeys, I’m sure you are…
Another rehashed old statement from non Nintendo civilians…
I think its time for nintendo to not think of the hole concept of wii this or wii u or wii anything ,its time Nintendo to go hardcore only and make hardcore console not old atari consoles with old graphics because playstation 5 and the next xbox will play games in 4k ,And one other thing nintedo needs to stop doing making these mini game people just play them for 5 miutes then give them away ,nintendo needs to make games that people want not what people don’t want people want ZELDA MARIO METROID SUPER SMASH BROTHERS AND third party games
To be honest apart from some decent sports games I would be happy to buy games only made by Nintendo. I’m the problem and Nintendo is the problem, Nintendo makes the best games for it’s machines and 3rd parties no they cannot make games of the same standard. Nintendo games last the test of time, no one would buy Halo remastered.
But people buy Windwaker HD.
first of all, you theory of Nintendo going “hardcore” is complete crap, Nintendo have thrived off of family friendly games, Pokémon is one of the many reasons Nintendo is still around, secondly Nintendo ARE making Smash, Zelda so we HAVE them, rather say something remotely intelligent Ashley, Nintendo going hardcore? you must be retarded
Our empire is the only hardcore one around here…
Stories and gore doesn’t make a game hardcore…
“hardcore” is just a myth, its just a made up term for some dipshits who spend their lives watching aliens eat a guys intestines while snacking on Cheetos in their parents basement, its easy for me to say that I play “hardcore” games just because I played Call of Duty that one time,
Of course, a term created by the alliance between the Xbots and Electrons…
Analyst? More like Analorator. Why oh why do people even bother to suggest they go third party. It’s like telling Disney to make cartoons for Nickelodeon! Get real!
“so it may be prudent to make that content mobile while preserving Nintendo’s style, he said.”
Why they don’t ask Microsoft and Sony to
If NIntendo goes mobile then their consoles won’t sell, how stupid, just because Sony is “popular” and “hardcore” and has “bloody games”, let’s not hate on it. But since Nintendo isn’t selling a lot right now then let’s talk non-stop about how they should go mobile. Have you seen how shitty 99% of the mobile games are?
You will never see Sony and Microsoft put their console exclusives in mobile, so why should Nintendo? Why no one is saying Sony should put their Vita exclusives that are failing in the mobile market? Because it’s cool to hate Nintendo, because they are not “hardcore’ because they don’t have guns in every game.
Stupid analysts, after reading that last part the entire article became irrelevant.
Seriously, SHUT THE FUCK UP! I like my NIntendo consoles, and Nintendo going third party is the death of their series and quality, why they don’t tell that to Microsoft or Sony? Oh, that’s right, they are bigger companies with other things, so you can’t mess with them, but you can mess with Nintendo because it’s a gaming only company.
This is what happens when big companies enter a business, let’s bully the smallest one. That’s what people do, but right now Nintendo it’s the best one because it’s only that, a gaming company, you get rid of Nintendo, you are stuck with what shitty thing Sony and Microsoft offer, you’ll have less options, THINK ABOUT IT, PEOPLE!
NO MORE 3DS! NO MORE POKEMON! NO MORE MARIO!
I can’t imagine playing Pokemon in Xbox, looking at everyone insulting each other.
What a stupid article about stupid trolls, go tell Microsoft to give their exclusives to shitty mobiles and kill their consoles, huh?
Idiots!
Seriously, are you guys going to support these guys’ ideas for NIntendo to start making shitty 1 dollar games in mobiles instead of the full awesome game they make? ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY!? O.o
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