Many Nintendo fans were frustrated with Nintendo of America for not bringing the regular New Nintendo 3DS over which has the awesome interchangeable faceplates. Damon Baker, Senior Manager in Marketing and Licensing, says the reason for not bringing the regular New Nintendo 3DS was simply down to the fact that they had to market two similar systems and that consumers could get confused with the amount of products available.
Yeah (laughs). Look, the face plates are super cool, but we’re a different market. And now we have clear differentiation between those three systems. Before, there was a very limited difference between the 3DS and 3DS XL: other than size. It was the same resolution, same functionality… now, there’s the 2DS, 3DS, and New 3DS XL, all of which have their own functionality and features. The different price points give it a clear message for consumers. The core audience… we weren’t going to win with them on that decision. But we had to think about expanding the user base, we had to be able to market it and make it easy to pick up for consumers.

Nope.
I’d buy two if it came out. Otherwise I’m buying the uk version and giving Nintendo Europe all my business from now on
Are you sure you can use a European New 3DS correctly? I’d like to buy one but I’m not sure if you can transfer the system from the North American original 3DS XL, keep the same Nintendo Network ID, and play North American games. I’m in love with the face plates, but I’m quite concerned that my North American Pokemon Omega Ruby, Tomodachi Life, etc. won’t work. If anyone knows, please let me know, thanks!
Yes but my Lord Reggienator, the western cattle is a shallow desperate resource hungry mass that needs these shallow pointless things!
you are nothing but a troll, you should be embracing the gaming community you’re a part of, not insulting it.
I insult the idiots who complains about everything all the time which is what people in here always do…
And insulting certain so called gamers has nothing to do with trolling…
what you’ve been doing is the very definition of trolling, insulting others to get a reaction. you can have whatever stereotypical opinion you want about U.S citizens but don’t pretend that you posted that based on logic. It was rude and uncalled for plain and simple.
your a whinny bitch, just stfu and let him say what he wants.
So…. let’s say you want to have Xenoblade Chroniceles in your pocket, with you, but you don’t want to carry around a purse, or a fanny pack, or put it in a backpack. You just want it in your pocket.
How many pants on the market have the room to feel like you can safely carry the New 3DS XL with you? The 3DS has lots of things that benefit you bringing it with you. XL’s make that difficult due to their size.
What’s wrong with wanting the more portable version of a portable system?
You know, Nintendo is really starting to aggravate me. This new 3DS situation is really getting on my last nerve and I’m at my limit. I think I might just stop supporting them. I was thinking about getting a New 3DS XL, but I don’t feel like rewarding Nintendo for disappointing me. Honestly, I think I might save my money I was gonna use on the New 3DS and put it towards another console. I’m getting tired of dealing with Nintendo’s nonsense. I’m not buying their next console unless they stop playing games and get it together. Wii U and 3DS are the last systems I’ll play from them until then. My Wii U screwed up and I had to get it repaired twice now. Because I wanted to play their games. But when it breaks again, I’m not gonna bother fixing it. I’m moving on from that point. And no, that doesn’t mean I’m going to turn into a Nintendo hater. Nintendo still has a chance to regain my support. But as of now, they’ve severely disappointed me.
I don’t blame you really, I will always be loyal to Nintendoin one way or another unless they try to do like the Xbots tried with the Xbox Done or worse…
But seriously, whoever makes the naming decisions should be terminated at once…
Anyways, enough of my complaining. Pretty sure you’re getting tired of that. Sorry. :P Playing Pikmin 3 btw. I actually take back what I said about it being boring and not my cup of tea. I guess I just didn’t play it long enough. Been playing it a lot lately and it’s awesome. I definitely have to download that mission mode DLC. I’m also thinking of getting Hyrule Warriors. :)
Good good, you will probably feel that Pikmin 3 is a bit short though, I did it and so did most…
But a great game overall…
That makes zero sense. By that logic they never should have made a regular sized New 3DS to begin with yet they brought it over to the UK…
I think it’s due to America itself. I’ve noticed that many people get confused over different models (including the 2DS), and so there is a valid point that it would of added to the confusion. America is a much larger market where it’s a much harder sell, faceplates aside.
However, you can no longer find the regular 3DS in my experience, which means there are only two models, not three as stated, and permitted they advertised properly, the confusion could of been minimized.
The new 3DS should of came to America, but from a lazy marketing standpoint, it does make sense why they did what they did.
No. It’s not confusion. Not one bit. It’s because they wanna capitalize on the XL’s fire sale success in US. But now that plan has backfired and this is their grand excuse to address this problem which of course it doesn’t. Marketing confusion? MY ASS.
Their plan didn’t backfire, the New 3DS XL sold out everywhere in the U.S. on launch day. It’s only been a few days, but in what universe is that a failure? I think you’re letting your bitterness cloud your reason.
I’m talking about their plan to only sale the XL because of the last model selling more and that move being backfired because of greed. The people wanted the new standard model more than XL and Nintendo refused with the weakest bullshit excuse imaginable. The sales could’ve been better if they had release it in US like EVERY OTHER COUNTRY THAT HAS THE SAME SHIT ON SHELVES.
“Would of” , “could of” did you mean “would’ve” and “could’ve” …. geez, can’t anyone speak/write properly these days?
Grammer nazi
*Grammar Nazi. You should read more.
Hey asshole, Would of and Could of are proper English. Would’ve and Could’ve are slang/lazy.
Apparently you can’t speak properly, dumbass.
Would of is not correct English. Its a common mistake people because ‘of’ and ‘have’ sound similar in that context. I used to always use would of until my final year in school when I was finally properly cocorrected.
It’s a common typo born out of the way it’s spoken (would and have are oft used in their contracted form, would’ve, but due to the nature of the consonant sounds, it’s spoken as “of” instead of “v”), and i type it out of habbit when I’m in a hurry to get out a thought.
There are three models. 2DS, 3DS XL, and now New 3DS XL. Original 3DS was discontinued.
They bright it over to all nations EXCEPT AMERICA.
*USA…
No, America. Including Canada. America doesn’t always mean simply USA…
No, but that’s what he was referring too…
How were they only referring to USA when the whole New 3DS thing applies to the whole continent? I’m sure they were referring to Nintendo of America if they were referring to anything, which despite mainly affecting the USA also affects other countries too.
We all know South America (Brazil) no longer has Nintendo so no clarification is required Spider-Slayer.
You’re forgetting Canada…
And since when Canada is known or called for being “America”? Canada is a country of itself. They’re just next door neighbors of the USA which is universally known for being ‘Murica! XD
And that’s why I wrote *USA since silly Americans like yourself call the US for America when the actual meaning of America is NA plus SA = America…
Umm, you forgot about “Central” America. XD So much for knowing “America”
Central America is not a continent, learn geography…
It’s a cattle misunderstanding that they’ve learned from other cattle masses that knows nothing themselves…
But you forget it’s part of America anyway, continent or not. Once again, you overlooked the obvious. lol
*Cybernetic facepalm*
What in the holy N are you even trying to say?…
I was the one that pointed out to you that America is not = USA…
We’re North America, you dumbass fuck.
No shit, dumbass fuck
I think you may genuinely be retarded
“Genuinely” and retarded don’t mix because you can’t tell if it’s even true which BTW, if I was retarded, I wouldn’t be able to type correctly.
Makes Sense…. :3 but i want the face plates T-T
Maybe if you had just called it the 3DSn like you did with the DSi it would have been easier for consumers.
Yes, because naming it “New” would make it less confusing for consumers…I don’t understand Nintendo and their business model. We don’t want variety, well look at the mobile market. Almost everyone is buying covers with interesting designs on them and how profitable is that? You say North America is better for the XL only because it sells better but it was stated that in Japan, the XL sells 2-1 from the regular; yet you still released the regular sized one. So tell me if I’m wrong; you’re all just assuming we’re imbeciles who won’t understand what you’re doing and just go along with it. “Ignorance is bliss” right? Not if you guys understand the internet and social media well. You can’t just give everyone else something and not hand us the same product.
now you guys feel what we felt in Europe for 2 decades….
Nope. Problem is you never asked us just did it. I could care less about face plates. I want something I can actually fit in my pocket without it being awkward
NOA sucks..nuff said
Translation: We’re too lazy to market more systems, and we’re taking the portability out of a portable market because we hate the money we would make from selling more systems.
Seriously, that’s one of the dumbest excuses I’ve heard from Nintendo. If that’s the case, why was the regular New 3DS produced in the first place? Ugh, one poor business decision after another, Nintendo.
Wee-ooh wee-ooh bullshit detected!
Me wanted face plates! Now me don’t know if I should buy New3dsxl because knowing Nintendo, they might release the new3ds with interchangeable faceplates within a few months to a year with their retarded ways.
Just wait. That’s what I’m doing. I mean, I already have a 3DS XL that I’m happy with and the only difference between mine and the new XL is that the new one is faster & has better 3D. That’s it. At least with the new 3DS I can have interchangeable face plates and I genuinely like the design much better. So honestly, buying a new 3DS XL doesn’t seem even worth it to me.
Oh well. I still won’t buy one until they come in normal size. They’re hurting their business, not helping it.
But they’re being sold without the charger, so obviously this is not entirely about new consumers.
Come on guys, bring those stupid plates and take my money!
Nope. Get your stuff straight NoA.
Lame excuse… Just when every concerned costumer is hyped they claim “confusion”. But they didn’t see a problem when they named a console Wii U.
A lot of 3DS owners are hyped on the face plate thing. Bring it now while the interest is high. And don’t tell us you’ll come out with New 2DS because we are NOT asking for it.
This wouldn’t even be a major issue if Nintendo stopped living in the 90’s by ceasing the ridiculous region-lock.
“consumers could get confused with the amount of products available”
I think the name New 3DS and New 3DS XL would be the sources of confusion more than anything else. They should have just discontinued the existing 3DS and 3DS XL and brought the new ones in at the same price point, maybe with a different name but I’m not sure what would work. 3DS 2 and 3DS XL 2 probably wouldn’t work lol.
Like what the person above said, they sepearated the original DS with the DSi. They could have given a different title for it not New in front of it. Because regardless people will say new if it’s actually new. Can i have the new iphone, a new android, the new smash bros and that’s all kids will be saying…because some wouldn’t even know the actual name of the thing they want, they will just say new. That’s who nintendo caters to and that’s what can also consuse the parents of the kids from the way the kid talks to them with the word new in front of everything.
Super 3ds omega ultra edition
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-bring-the-normal-smaller-standard-version-of-the-new-nintendo-3ds-to-north-american-markets
That’s not going to help, Nintendo said they won’t accept petitions.
One of the lamest excuse ever, it appears that Nintendo didn’t ask the rest of us. Who truly wanted the Standard 3DS (New) to come to the west. I don’t get it & I will never understand it. Why does the Europe, Australia & Japan get the both XL & Standard? They get more choices & isn’t “More Choices” good? I love Nintendo but there business practices are terrible.
Too fat to handle smaller things…
That’s racist ;)
Most Amercians all have an descent to them whether it’s spanish, asian, russian etc. And I tell you that the place I work at, there are barely any fat coworkers me especially who is skinny.
American is not a race…
Shh, don’t tell them that. Let them figure that out.
Cattle masses can’t do that…
That’s why I put the wink face. I was joking.
I know, the rest took it seriously, probably because of the rest of your comment…
But good that your co-workers are not fat, we need less lazy fat people in the world that are fat because they are stupid not have problems…
*and not because they have problems…
Commander, I am fat because I overeat, not because of laziness as my job requires me to walk for at least 3 hours a day in 15 minute increments.
And why are you overeating?…
Yes i agree. Many of them are lazy and expect things handed to them on a silver platter. Yet they don’t deserve anything that they don’t work for.
Dude, lazy? If there is to be named a lazy continent it’s has to be Europe. Fuckin’ France and Spain with their 4 hour work days with fucking “ciesta nap” things or whatever the hell they are in the middle of the afternoon. Europe with it’s government mandated time off for employees. Please. I wish we had that in America. Would be nice if my boss was required to give me days off. But he isn’t.
Because your country doesn’t want anything to do with socialism since their medieval mentality thinks it’s satan’s or nazi work…
If you knew anything of economics, you’d know socialism doesn’t work.
And yet it works in the majority of the European countries…
It’s your country itself that does not want to change their ways…
Although the type of socialism Obama tried to introduce is practically all wrong…
Forgot to add that I didn’t mean socialism 100% in its meaning…
Social-Liberalism I think the word is…
Yeah, because we’d all love to pay 50% in taxes like Europe. That sounds like fun. Yay social liberalism!
And yet all that makes us go “free” in college, health care is a lot cheaper, infrastructure overall is great and no rejection of patients because they have no health insurance etc etc…
And it’s nowhere near 50% in most countries…
Stop being a racist bitch. Starteamfight
whoa!!!!! firstly it’s 35 hours work a week , 25 days holidays, 11 public holidays in France, same in Spain and italy (no sure about spain). IN uk,germany and northern europe it’s 40 hours a week, 25 days holidays and 8 public/bank holidays. Because you guys works 40 hours a week and get 10 days holidays with 7 or 10 days public holidays (depend on the state you live) does not means you are less lazy than us.
Personally I used to work both in US/Canada and Europe and guess what, when we were late on a project it was our US/Canada counterpart which slow us down. I had to go several times to US just to tell them to hurry the *** up and when I asked why they are late (cause they did not respond to my e-mails) I have lot of BS excuses. Really don’t call us (european) lazy cause that so not true
A lot of your information is incorrect, but I’m gonna let it slide simply because I respect your effort to defend some European countries. I agree that countries like the UK and Germany and some others in the north do indeed have good work ethics.
I’m going to assume that we’ve both had bad experiences with the other being lazy which is why we feel the way we do. So can we just agree that both sides have hard working people and people who are lazy as fuck? I hope we can.
Yes of course we can agree on that
Shut up you fuckin bastard
Race =/= Weight please stay in school
Fire Reggie.
After wii u is done.
Reggie certainly isn’t helping things, but I think the problem goes deeper than just him. He’s just a figurehead. IMO the real problem is Nintendo’s main management in Kyoto.
Iwata is a nice guy, and he did bring the massively successful DS and Wii into the market, but he’s not introducing change to the company anymore. This gen Nintendo tried to capture lightning in a bottle twice (DS to 3DS and Wii to Wii U), with lukewarm results at best and poor results at worst. Even the 3DS, which is selling well, isn’t selling anywhere near what the DS did.
Nintendo could use a new direction.
Correction: Fire Iwata.
You mean you guys are incapable of marketing it properly, the Wii U and 3DS were poorly done and confused the average Joe because they don’t follow video games. Now you’re basically just saying you know you’d screw up again or you’re not willing to try.
This is why I love living in the UK because Nintendo of Europe give us both
So in other words. It’s because their marketing sucks. Well we all knew that
There’s a fucking lack of the XL too.
Noa acting like jews.
Bullshit. The marketing teams for the other regions didn’t seem to have any issues. If you don’t think you can market it for North America….you get a new marketing team.
More BS excuses…
Exactly and this is pissing me off. If this BS keeps up, I’m jumping ship from Nintendo for the last time or just quit gaming altogether. I’m fucking tired of this train wreck of excuses and I sense Nintendo is now heading towards the dark side or deep end as well.
I don’t want to jump ship but if Nintendo keeps this up, I’ll have no choice but to move on. And I know exactly where I’ll go too. coughgreatnessawaitscough
XD
They need to fire whoever was responsible for this decision. You can’t even find regular 3ds at stores. They shouldn’t have even made the 2DS anyway. Those cover plates would be hot sellers in the U.S. Man, Iwata just needs to go already, what buffoon
I just want to know when are XL back in stores
So Nintendo of America basically thinks that Americas are stupid and can’t tell the difference between the different systems.
Yes.
*CoughWiiUCough*
that’s exactly what I got from it, folks in europe and japan are smart enough to have all options, but not U.S. maybe if you didn’t give your items the most retarded names imaginable people wouldn’t get confused. new 3ds, wii u, their successors will be named
newer 3ds, and wii u me. this is the maddest I’ve ever been at them. -_-
Did NOA imply that we are stupid???? NOA suck on this, I haven’t given you a dime since ur last Direct, cuz u pissed me off.
BULLSHIT!
If they can tell from original 3DS to the XL with different box arts, then it’s no problem that they can tell from the new ones. 3DS is not in the same situation with Wii U because 3DS is marketed well. As for Wii U, its also another example of people’s two-way stupidity on not telling from Wii to Wii U through different box arts and clear showcase of differences and HD games which the Wii never had and everyone knows it.
YOU KNOW many, like me, wanted the new standard model but ya wanna capitalize the XL because it sold more but thanks to your stupid ass hypothesis you decided to go for out of profit like the greedy 3rd parties have done recently, it backfired big time and now you’re playing denial of why that is. Nintendo, I’m seriously getting tired of the same old weak crap of excuses.
Blame your main base of the empire, my own is doing just fine…
Are you sure about that? Because I’m inching myself closer to quit gaming if this BS from all sides keeps up.
If they brought the standard to the US, you silly American humans would complain about something else like always, there is no satisfying you in that country regardless of how good or bad it is…
Not exactly. The new standard resolves most of the issues from the original and the faceplates would’ve benefited both sides for fans and Nintendo. Instead, Nintendo has gone retarded and even greedy by sticking with the cheap ass XL that still didn’t increase screen resolution and doesn’t include a simple $5 fucking charger in the package JUST because the last XL model got popular MERELY because the old was flawed in a few places which the past XL resolved.
I was referring to in general since you silly American humans love to complain about every little thing no matter how silly it is instead of realising that the world does not revolve around you…
Although NoA Main Base is probably the worst territory of the empire regarding decisions, partial fault lies with you silly humans complaining about everything which makes them confused…
so it’s our fault for wanting to be treated equally?..,.
I never said it’s your fault…
“partial fault lies with you silly humans for making them confused” and in a previous post “if they brought the standard to the U.S you Silly Americans would complain about something else.” whether you’re aware that you’re being rude/offensive to everyone in here who lives in the U.S, I would appreciate it if you would just stop.
It came across that way but it’s fine, sorry if I’m being intense it’s just this article is very frustrating to me. this is the reason I left playstation and xbox, and If Nintendo isn’t any better which it’s becoming clear they’re all about the same. I’m left with PC gaming which isn’t something I wanted to do. it just… sucks.. I don’t want to give my money to jerk corporations that think they can do whatever the hell they want and just expect me to lay back and take it. I just took this one personally I guess.. sorry for the previous messages, although between you and me we’re not all silly Americans XD
Apology accepted…
No you’re not all silly, I like you for example…
I know what you mean but if you lived in countries like Sweden you would probably already have quit Nintendo a long time ago…
probably, I go where I’m treated best when it comes to things like this, I’m not wishy-washy about it though, for example I owned a ps2 and really enjoyed it, but when ps3 came out and they said they wanted me to earn the right to play it, I left, same goes for xbox, and nintendo. we all sink so much money into this hobby/way of life. You’d expect them not to continuously bite the hand that feeds them.
I’d just like to add that I think it’s hypocritial from some in here when they bash the Xbots and Sonyans beyond everything and when the empire does idiotic things like limited Amiibos or stupid names for consoles, they want to switch sides to the other 2 even though they still think Nintendo is better…
Logic flawed in all ways…
@Nintendo Commander Us Americans are too stupid for the New 3DS according to Nintendo. XD
Oh dear…
Damon Baker, Senior Manager in US Marketing … needs to be fired… out of a cannon… into the sun. You release both, keep the 2ds as is, retire the others versions and call the new systems the Ultra 3DS and Ultra 3DS XL… forget “new”… that’s just dumb.
No wonder Nintendo sales suck, horrid marketing department!!!
Oooo “ultra” i like it… too bad nintendo started to suck at names after Wii…
I like the into the sun part… I’ve got a couple of barrel cannons lying around if we can find the guy, I’ve already pick a good launch spot for him!
Even if they aren’t bringing the regular New 3DS to the American average store, I think they should at least offer the American version of the regular New 3DS online :-). Like me I have small hands and aren’t really interested in the New 3DS XL ;^^.
Still I live in Europe so I guess I am okey ;^^, but still I think it is unfair that America aren’t getting the New 3DS like the other regions :-(.
thank you, you’re the only person outside of U.S here that’s called bullshit on this.
what people need to realize is if nintendo’s willing to screw one region of their fans like this they’re willing to screw all of their fans. I especially like the part where he says, “we knew we weren’t going to win our core audience over with this decision but we’re trying to expand our user base.” translation: we care more about the fans we don’t have than the ones we do.
Market it? Now you think of fucking marketing?
You are selling a fucking handheld with no charger and you’re trying to make it less confusing to your consumers? This is the fucking logic behind it? Really NoA??
Man I can’t fucking wait for the Day that Reggie gets his ass kicked out. -_-
Also, do your fucking job Damon, if you were good at marketing the product you supposedly market would be selling better.
It wouldn’t market? Yeah, yet TONS of Americans are mad…
Oh, and you throw in the f’n charger!! Dumb dumbs. I was gonna buy my first 3ds system… until all this BS happened!!!! May as well buy a PS4 and XBO now, jeeeezzzzz.
Hey wanna an easy solution to avoid confusion? Discontinue Old 3DS in america while launching New 3DS. Just like they did in japan with LL model few weeks after New 3DS was launched
Technically they did, and that’s the problem. The original 3DS was discontinued a long while ago in America and we ONLY have 3DS XLs now! People who didn’t want XL were excited for the New 3DS to come to America, but Nintendo of America fucked up again and now we can’t have nice things.
what they need to do is make more majoras 3ds xl.
BTW, correction; there is no standard 3DS anymore you fucking numbnuts at Nintendo. Your excuse has been shot and became invalid on the spot.
I’d like to know who names their products these days and then erase them from existence…
I understand the reasoning behind their decision in marketing, but they really did a damage to their reputation among knowledgeable fans. Yes, there are a lot of general consumers who might’ve gotten confused, but at the same time who’s fault is it in the end? Nintendo. They chose to release so many iterations of the 3DS. You have the 3DS, 3DS XL, the 2DS that plays 3DS games, and now the new 3DS and new 3DS XL. That’s a lot. However I could confidently assume the MAJORITY of the fan base purchasing such systems is a knowledgeable fanbase (aka people who KNOW the differences). So their reasoning is sort of null and void. ALSO, what makes the other countries different marketing-wise? I’m sure the other markets are similar to ours when it comes to console purchases and knowledge. Ugh SO FRUSTRATING. I don’t want to (and honestly shouldn’t have to) PORT the standard version to the US. That’s ridiculous. Secondly, why can’t they provide an online ordering service or alternative to shelf space (I’m pointing this out because that was another poor reason of theirs.)? They fail to understand their fan base YET AGAIN and have chose a COMPLETELY unfair business practice towards North America. With all of that being said, I leave everyone here with this (PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE give these links some effort and a couple minutes of your time):
So, lots of people are petitioning to change NoA’s approach to the N3DS in North America so we can get the SMALLER version of the console. There are two petitions out and people are also calling in to let Nintendo know by phone, email, and chat.
The information is down below! Please help #OperationFaceplateNA
Phone: 1-800-255-3700 (MOST EFECTIVE. 6:00am-7:00pm PST. Option 5 for General, then 4 for Console Availability)
E-mail: nintendo@noa.nintendo.com
Chat: (6:00AM-6:30PM PST)
Petitions:
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-bring-the-normal-smaller-version-of-the-new-nintendo-3ds-to-north-america
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-bring-the-regular-sized-new-3ds-to-america-stop-region-locking
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-stop-region-blocking-make-the-3ds-and-wii-u-region-free
Facebook Page:
https://www.facebook.com/operationfaceplates?fref=ts
Poll:
http://t.co/TLPhj7SSMv
#OperationFaceplateNA
just signed them, thanks for the link!
Basically, what they’re saying is that we are too damn stupid and confused and daddy made the right decision for us.
*Face palms* They say there would be difficulty with marketing it, well everyone who is complaining obviously know the difference between the two. Why didn’t they just make them both be able to change the face plates? Yeah people could get confused about the sizes, but then again, why do we need the xl and then a regular version? Back when they had the dsi, and then made the dsi xl, that was one thing because it was a good idea but it came at a different point in time. I don’t get why when they released the original 3ds, why go back to basically the same screen size as the dsi, but slightly bigger. I know the 3ds screen is bigger overall, but to me, why not just opt for the bigger size. People obviously want the bigger size for the most part, and since 3d is supposedly harmful to kids eyes, that’s why the 2ds was created, which I think is stupid still..The mini wii they created was so stupid…like seriously, why take out all the features people used… I questioned nintendo naming the wii u what it’s named, I think it should have been something different. Maybe they are trying to do what Xbox and sony do with the ps4 xb1 type thing but obviously it’s not working. The wii name was clever, but we haven’t had any new names yet. I liked how the gamecube and game boy advance had connectivity that was useful when game developers integrated it, but now that’s not around really. Wind wake hd could have used the 3ds to allow the tingle functions which would have been cool. I think that it was pointless to create the game cube adapter for the wii u, if it’s not going to be used. The pro controller and classic controller are very similar in terms of buttons to the gc controller so telling the console to treat it as such should not be that difficult.
No sale to me then. Their loss.
exactly that’s how you get a business to change their practices. with your wallets.
I’m still angry at them for this, but I’ve pretty much given up at this point. Standard isn’t coming to America. I suppose I’ll just get the red XL. Even though I really want that Majora’s Mask edition, I doubt I’ll be able to find it… Or I might just wait for another special edition to come along.
I’ve been vocal about this enough, now I’m gonna put my money where my mouth is. I may still get a new 3ds someday but for the foreseeable future I’ve decided to fight this by keeping my wallet shut when it comes to 3ds. If they want me to buy it they’re going to have to give me the same options as japan or europe.
Yeah. Good luck with that then. Nintendo is beyond stubborn… >_>
50 years later…. they did it! they removed region locking! I’m gonna go buy that 3ds with the faceplates!… oh no, all sold out T_T
hey and I didn’t say I’d stop buying some wii u titles! I’ve already pre ordered kirby and I can’t get my money back. XD
Well… I checked online and there’s absolutely no Majora’s Mask New 3DS’S available anywhere. This is seriously getting on my nerves. Nintendo is lucky that they have good games that I like to play. Otherwise, I’d have given up on them a long time ago. The games are the only reason I put up with this crap.
Yeah it’s really getting on my nerves to. If it keeps up like this I’ll be skipping out their next console generation. not that I’d be going to sony or microsoft though, I mean let’s face it they all do this crap!
I’d probably just go to Playstation or PC.
I would have gone pc a long time ago, except that my favorite games to play are splitscreen and couch co-op. otherwise the pc would be a no brainer for me.
Also, I think it’s safe to say we need to find a way to email Damon Baker….. and REALLY show him we mean business with our numbers.
I understand the reasoning behind their decision in marketing, but they really did a damage to their reputation among knowledgeable fans. Yes, there are a lot of general consumers who might’ve gotten confused, but at the same time who’s fault is it in the end? Nintendo. They chose to release so many iterations of the 3DS. You have the 3DS, 3DS XL, the 2DS that plays 3DS games, and now the new 3DS and new 3DS XL. That’s a lot. However I could confidently assume the MAJORITY of the fan base purchasing such systems is a knowledgeable fanbase (aka people who KNOW the differences). So their reasoning is sort of null and void. ALSO, what makes the other countries different marketing-wise? I’m sure the other markets are similar to ours when it comes to console purchases and knowledge. Ugh SO FRUSTRATING. I don’t want to (and honestly shouldn’t have to) PORT the standard version to the US. That’s ridiculous. Secondly, why can’t they provide an online ordering service or alternative to shelf space (I’m pointing this out because that was another poor reason of theirs.)? They fail to understand their fan base YET AGAIN and have chose a COMPLETELY unfair business practice towards North America. With all of that being said, I leave everyone here with this (PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE give these links some effort and a couple minutes of your time):
So, lots of people are petitioning to change NoA’s approach to the N3DS in North America so we can get the SMALLER version of the console. There are two petitions out and people are also calling in to let Nintendo know by phone, email, and chat.
The information is down below! Please help #OperationFaceplateNA
Phone: 1-800-255-3700 (MOST EFECTIVE. 6:00am-7:00pm PST. Option 5 for General, then 4 for Console Availability)
E-mail: nintendo@noa.nintendo.com
Chat: (6:00AM-6:30PM PST)
I just called and the operating machine told me there were too many people calling. This makes me feel good
Petitions:
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-bring-the-normal-smaller-version-of-the-new-nintendo-3ds-to-north-america
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-bring-the-regular-sized-new-3ds-to-america-stop-region-locking
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-stop-region-blocking-make-the-3ds-and-wii-u-region-free
Facebook Page:
https://www.facebook.com/operationfaceplates?fref=ts
Poll:
http://t.co/TLPhj7SSMv
#OperationFaceplateNA
Well they should have thought about that before they fucked up the name of the console…
THE MAIN PROBLEM is the shitty “New” name they came up with it is what made it so confusing
I don’t really understand the naming of the new 3ds either…It’s slightly more powerful because they overclocked the cpu and added more buttons and the c stick, but honestly, why? Like it almost seems rather stupid to make a third line up. I know they had the game boy, game boy color, game boy advance, game boy advance sp…and people didn’t seem to mix those up, yet they were similarly named, why is that? The ds, ds lite, dsi, dsi xl, that didn’t have as much of an issue either. Maybe it was because of the designs were slightly different? I don’t know but maybe the issue is nintendos marketing department. The new 3ds probably should exist, and should instead be a new system entirely. It is getting kind of treated like a new system which does irritate me, because it is part of the 3ds family, but now I have to buy a new 3ds just so I can play the new 3ds games that are exclusive. I’ve had the 3ds since launch, but I haven’t bought a whole lot of games for it because there just hasn’t been as much that interested me. I used to be a die hard nintendo fan, but then I got a ps3, and started playing some of the games. The virtual console with nintendo, I have to say is not as big as say the psn store. Nintendo effectively restarted it with the wii u instead of upgrading what they had, so they lost a lot of games in transition. Sony did not have any issues with that with the change from ps3 to ps4 but maybe that’s because their online is pretty good. I like sony’s way of handling online, with it being mostly free. The only parts you really have to pay for are if you want free games each month or extra discounts, which is something nintendo kind of did with club nintendo but it was big titles. I experienced some of the most well known ps3 games via psn, but nintendo I had to buy games, to earn coins, to buy retro games which isn’t as nifty.
At least they are talking about the standard size again. They seem to notice our frustration a bit. Just watch we’ll have the standard size soon.
I’m not buying one because they won’t let us choose our size. I like the regular size because it fits anywhere. It’s complete utter bull shit. Most gamers on the go do not want to lug around the xl. The regular size 3ds is sleek and is more portable than the xl. Fill up my luggage and slip the 3ds at the very top of my bag. Nintendo needs to bring the New regular state side.
There are a few petitions out now and a poll being used to help show our numbers. Unfortunately I can’t post the links without getting moderation from the admins. Try using #OperationFaceplateNA on various social media sites and you’ll probably find what I’m talking about.
I’m calling bull on this one. Everybody should have the option of choosing which N3DS to get, not Nintendo.
Since it has become apparent that Nintendo isn’t going to release the smaller model, I’ll just end up getting the N3DS XL when Xenoblade 3D comes out.
I’m sorry, Nintendo, I just don’t buy that lame excuse. Call me stubborn or childish, but I wouldn’t even consider getting a New 3DS unless Nintendo decided to sell the regular one. I just don’t like the XL, especially it’s size.
I’m sure girls with purses could carry one just fine. But my pockets aren’t that big.
MY POCKETS! AREN’T! THAT! BIIIIIIG! I’m just paranoid because I’ve lost a regular 3DS from carrying it around all the time because I used to own skinny jeans. I left it because I was having a pretty heated conversation and the phone. I stormed away afterwards, forgetting it was still there.
Protip, I never carry my gadgets in the pockets, nor even my phone, I always walk with a backpack or a jacket with inner pockets when I need to carry my 3DS outta my home.
I like the idea of an inner-pocket jacket. I don’t think I could walk everywhere with a backpack though. Too many places make minorities leave their backpacks at the door.
Then fucking make it available to buy directly from nintendo’s website, jeez
This should not be an excuse
That would make too much sense unfortunately…
They did something similar with the White 3DS (regular and XL), and they got piss poor sales. I believe they are avoiding something like this, once they are targeting adult gamers with this system.
Please understand.
that is such a non-answer… i call bullshit
Nintendo, this excuse is you trying to say that the regular 3ds should have never been sold in europe, australia, and japan. Hmm… Cash attempts
Europe, Australia and Japan are not America (US, Canada and Latin). Period.
Yea, okay. As if the name New 3DS isn’t confusing enough as it is.
Hmm.. no comment here. It makes sense since the “new” 3DS XL is marketed with more of a mature industrial look while the regular version just looks something fit for.. well kids and Nintendo fans. From a marketing stand-point this makes sense but I don’t know all that much about marketing. It’s a complicated process regardless though. Time to start taking business courses to understand further just to satisfy my curiosity.
And apparently, NOA is getting what they expected. Only older people are buying the New 3DS, they are not targeting for kids at all, only for the person able to spend 200 dollars in a handheld gaming machine.
Their is obviously a sound financial reason Nintendo did not release the smaller sized 3ds in NA. We do not know that reason, but I assure you if Nintendo thought for one second they could have made some money off it they would have released it. They obviously know something we do not. I understand why some people are upset, but they are a business, and they are going to do what is in the companies best interest financially. Now if we only got the smaller sized 3ds and not the XL, then I’d be pissed.
Yup. And don’t forget, NOA had to proof for its consumers that white-colored handhelds doesn’t make any success in west. They released pretty limited stocks of 3DS and 3DS XL in white, and even then, this color bombed.
I wish but the last few years make it pretty obvious that Nintendo of America is ran by utter fucking idiots that need to be replaced or outright fired.
Cause Marketing is doing such as a fine job to start with, slapping “New” in front of its name. Good job guys, take the rest of the week off.
So NOW they decided to damage control the Wii/Wii U fiasco and avoid the same with 2DS/3DS/3DS XL/New 3DS/New 3DS XL.
Dunno what to say, I don’t bother in getting a New 3DS soon, I’m pretty happy with my current 3DS XL.
Maybe there would be less confusion if you used a name other than ‘NEW’ Nintendo 3ds eh Nintendo?
“The core audience… we weren’t going to win with them on that decision. But we had to think about expanding the user base, we had to be able to market it and make it easy to pick up for consumers.”
This statement PROVES that they’d rather pick up more casuals than please their core fans. I lose trust in Nintendo’s products so fast. Never know when to make an investment. Fuck them on this decision. I swear, their marketing team needs to be wiped clean and restarted.
I still can’t figure out why Nintendo didn’t make changeable faceplates for the new 3DS XL? Why couldn’t it be done? Nintendo causes me to ask why SO much lately.
Unfortunately some of the above comments are correct: they’re doing what’s financially best for the company. What bothers me is exactly that. They’d rather make a pretty penny from the average consumer than earn valuable respect and trust from their core audience. It’s a shame but that’s how it is. I think the best option is to at least let them know through emails, petitioning, twitter, facebook, and other social media. There’s a couple petitions circulating that I’ve posted above already. Calling in is also an idea.
no nintendo, I’m not 4 years old
I know what does XL means
maybe if you change the damn name to something else rather than just add “new” to the console
I probably would have gotten a special edition 3ds anyways. But those Majora’s mask faceplates could have easily changed my mind if they where coming to Canada
More nonsense coming from Nintendo! Way to go!
Another dose of crap reasoning.
I tried the New 3DS XL at a Gamestop and it just did not feel comfortable in my hands- it felt too big for them. The regular New 3DS would probably be a perfect fit for me, but of course, Nintendo doesn’t think about satisfying its customers anymore.
I bought a New 3ds xl for a friend and have played it sure I like it but I hate that after maybe ten minutes of playing my hands cramp and I can’t hold it any longer! I’ve always had the normal sized 3ds and mine has almost seen its day cause my l&r are sticking more often than not from rough play and carrying it around as often as I do.
So NOW they start talking about confusing their customers, huh? Even though I’m from Europe and was not affected by this, it makes me a little angry to read about this…
In Europe, Nintendo are selling five models. :|
i stated previously it was the logic choice, to be fair to Nintendo US, people are still confuse over the Wii and the Wii U. No wonder they take this decision. Don’t blame nintendo blame the consummers….
What are you blabbing about!? The Wii dominated the 7th generation world wide. Even in the US, it outsole the PS3 and the Xbox 360. 17mill units!!! The Wii U is failing because nintendos Marketing teem goofed up the whole damn thing.
Nintendo is definitly to blame here. If not, then at least blame NoA because they’re the ones who have failed us, the consumers!
Nope. We can blame Nintendo. After all, NoA’s marketing, when it is occurring, is almost nonexistant.
Maybe they should have named the n3DS and the n3DS XL something, ya know, better.
The nomenclature for the “New 3DS” is a source of way more confusion that the idea of different models. They could have called it the “3DSc” to reference the C-Stick. However, at the same time I didn’t like how when the original 3DS came out they marketed the Circle Pad like mad and made the excuse that they would never create a system with a right Circle Pad…and now…the C-Stick returns on these new 3DS models. More than that, the “New 3DS” also splits the consumerbase because it has the capability to do things with games that the originals can’t. I don’t know how Nintendo continues with so much of this technical fuckery in an age where it is so goddamn easy to actually see what people like/want!
Then of course, in the statement he mentions “The core audience… we weren’t going to win with them on that decision” when the core audience completely understands the differentiation between the systems and WANTED those options.
The truth of the matter is that they wouldn’t have been able to grab new customers. they don’t really seem to care about their core market of consumers who are die hard Nintendo fans and actually know what’s up. They wanted to force people into buying the more expensive model for the sake of pure profit, when any costs eaten by marketing both would have been recovered from the immense sales of both.
Seriously. MARKETING PEOPLE: There is this thing called juxtaposition. Just make a freaking commercial with both “New 3DS'” sitting next to each other. How hard is that?? People can judge size pretty fucking easily. NINTENDO: YOU’RE WEAK SALES ARE YOUR OWN FAULT. YOU MAKE UNDER POWERED CONSOLES AND NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING LEFT BEHIND BY DEVELOPERS. YOU’RE BLUE OCEAN STRATEGY WORKED BECAUSE IT WAS A REVOLUTIONARY PRODUCT YOU BROUGHT WITH THE WII. THE WII U IS NOT REVOLUTIONARY ANYMORE. IT’S A GLORIFIED DS. MAKE BETTER CONSOLES AND PEOPLE WILL BUY THEM.
I don’t really care about the faceplates. My hands aren’t big enough to play on the 3ds XL. The system hurts my hands and I can’t play for more than 20
Minutes.
That’s why I want the standard size to come out. I think Nintendo is putting a big strain on the smaller hand sized players and frankly it’s a bit disappointing from the stand point that I’ve been buying their products for 20+ years and all the sudden I won’t be able to play because I have small hands.
How are they expanding the user base when there is no charge cable included? I remember reading an article where they said that they are releasing this “new” console as an upgrade and that they assumed the people buying it will already have a charger from the older model. Nintendo… you are making less and less sense. I was looking forward to buying the n3ds original size but I guess now I am not. I have the 3ds xl and it is just too big and gets heavy after playing for about half an hr. I guess Nintendo does not care about the female gamers.
*facepalm*