wii_u_console_whiteWhen the Wii U was the topic of discussion at this year’s D.I.C.E. Summit, which took place last week, Western video game companies only talked about their canceled projects for the new console, according to Sidhe Interactive co-founder Mario Wynands. Wynands said that developers and publishers from the U.S., U.K., France, Germany and Australia did not talk about their new Wii U projects. Weynands also said he thinks that the Wii U is in ‘serious trouble.’

At DICE, nobody has been talking about the new Wii U projects they have started, only the Wii U projects that have just been cancelled. Platform is in serious trouble. Publishers and developers from the US, UK, France, Germany, and Australia mainly. Pubs and devs never recoiled from PS3 like they seem to be with Wii U (though this is anecdotal). There was always the confidence that the numbers would get there over time with PS3. I’m not sensing that with Wii U. I had a data point yesterday at lunch with a high budget Wii U game that was hoping to sell “millions” over time. It only managed “tens of thousands”. It is one of the top rated games for the platform.

-Sidhe Interactive co-founder Mario Wynands

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      • Nobody wants to make games for the console cos is weak Ubisoft had realised the mistake they doing and now will release Rayman Legends on PS3/360 anyway Nintendo had lies you once more stupid fanboys Wii U is one rubbish

        Here what means real next generation console

        System Memory: 8GB
        Video Memory: 2.2 GB
        CPU: 4x Dual-Core AMD64 “Bulldozer” (so, 8x cores)
        GPU: AMD R10xx
        Ports: 4x USB 3.0, 2x Ethernet
        Drive: Blu-Ray
        HDD: 160GB
        Audio Output: HDMI & Optical, 2.0, 5.1 & 7.1 channels

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        • If it’s all about specs my PC takes those specs, craps on them, then pisses on them for good measure. Thankfully it’s about other stuff like innovation, where the Wii U will excel and the others will be left in the dust to play catch-up. But ofc simplistic fanboy minds can’t really comprehend something like that

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            • actually if that cpu is the equivelant to the ones released on the computer, then that really is nothing special at all sadly. Hate to bash amd cause i usually try to support them, but that is two medeocre cpu’s with low clock speeds for that chip and bad performance per clock, worse then their last gen of processors actually. Hopefully amd has worked out the bugs in those chips for this system or clock for clock the new xbox might blow them out of the water clock for clock if they have went with intel

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          • Comparing console to PC is stupid. PCs need far greater specs because they’re not created specifically for games (i.e. it has to run an entire complex OS, for one thing).

            Example: XBOX 360 came out 7 years ago, an can still run Halo 4 at 720p natively with no issues at a steady 30 frames per second. No gaming PC in 2005 could ever run Halo 4 that well. Not even close. I know, because I have a 6 year old gaming PC that was near top-of-the-line back then and it barely runs Crysis 2 at low settings.

            So take your PC, crap on it, and don’t talk about things you clearly don’t understand beyond “derp bigger number are better!”

            Thx.

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            • Yeah sure…..If you actually read what I said I just mentioned that it’s not all about horespower. Derp. Besides, I highly doubt your PC was ever top of the line to begin with…maybe you should take that and crap on it…

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        • lol, speculated 4-8 gigs of ram, likely 4.
          not sure where you got the video ram from,
          correctly speculated about the cpu, however the bulldozer chips aren’t that great unless you extreme overclock them, and even then only on par with an i5, couse we have no comparison for the wii u’s performance per clock for their chip, but the ps4 is only supposed to be clocked at 1.6ghz which is only 300-400 mhz faster then the wii u, but with the bad performance of the amd bulldozer… wouldn’t hold your breath too much.
          gpu, once again speculated but technically will likely include all the newest graphics innovations as the wii u and likely little more as the wii u graphics chip is quite robust with features, might be a bit more powerful, time will tell.
          usb… who cares only a couple periferals for any of the systems, you think usb3 will make you cooling fan work better? it’s all about speed transfer with usb 3 and in a console more or less moot.
          blu-ray… are you kidding me? who cares? a blu-ray player is 70 bucks and your gonna get a better experience on that anyway, the medium is nice for the amount of data on each disk though, not a huge selling point at this point in the game however.
          larger hd is nice but if it’s ssd then that will cause the price to go up, they still aren’t cheap.

          those specs aren’t nearly as robust as you are being lead to believe. This new gen is not going to blow anybody’s minds away like the last gen did, or the one before that. Untill devs learn to properly use multi cpu oriented machines the original ps3 might actually outperform the new one. This has been an issue for years on the computer, ever since manufacturers realised they would have an extremely hard time overcoming the 3ghz hurdle, hence the multi core platform that has come into play.
          poor crytec is gonna be so pissed when they realize their out dated approach towards video games is coming to an end.

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  1. “high budget Wii U game that was hoping to sell “millions” over time. It only managed “tens of thousands”.”

    It may very well sell millions ‘over time’, but what kind of publisher honestly expects upwards of 1 million units sold within 2 months of a new console’s life?

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      • Call of duty?Maybe?They made a big deal about getting it for Wii U and I don’t think it has sold well at all.But I don’t think Wii U is to blame for it due to the fact the series fan’s have been playing those games for years on their ps3 and xbox 360.

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        • Blops 2 has sold well on Wiiu about 150,000 units and counting , infact that number was from a while ago . It must be AC3 , TTT2 , NG3RE , Batman Arkhum city….. Who was expecting late ports to sell well though ?

          ZombiU has sold about 400K and counting worldwide so that’s really successfull and it can’t be that.

          I think they’re talking out of their ass holes.

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      • Well the big clue was that it was highly rated but sold poorly. My first guess would be Batman Arkham City:Armored Edition (which I did buy by the way).

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        • If I were to guess, I’d assume he was referring to Mass Effect 3, which, as far as I’m aware, has sold under 100,000 units (i.e. tens of thousands) on Wii U, unlike both Call of Duty: Black Ops II and Batman: Arkham City.

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          • Oh Batman sold over 100,000 units on Wii U alone? Hmm…. then you must be right in saying that it is Mass Effect 3. I would have bought that game…….if they hadn’t made the HD trilogy. Hopefully they bring the trilogy over to Wii U because I will definitely buy that at a $60 price tag.

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            • Apparently so, yes. I also purchase Batman: Arkham City for Wii U. I too would have purchased Mass Effect had it been the trilogy instead of the singular title, but I’ll end up purchasing them for either Xbox 360 or PC (as the PS3 version had some pretty bad framerate issues if I recall correctly).

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            • They force u to install origin in ur console and they also force u to agree, getting ur personal data!!!! Its the only time they forced EULA into a console…. they dont do that in ps360

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          • How am I supposed to buy/play ME 3 when I haven’t even touched 1 and 2?

            To be honest, I literally have never heard of the ME franchise until it hit the Wii U. Seriously, I was completely oblivious to this franchise and still have no idea who is the protagonist even is. They cannot blame poor sales on the Wii U when they drop a sequel of a franchise on a system where some of the user install base have never played before and expect to sell millions. I’d suggest that that company seriously take a second look at their business strategy because it is flawed for sure.

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            • I agree. I think I heard about Mass Effect 2 a while back but I never gave it any attention. Now with ME3 being so popular, I wouldn’t just BUY it without having played the first two. Also, not many people are going to buy old ports of games. Batman and ME3 being on the Wii U so late was a bit of a waste IMO

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    • I do not believe there are *any* “high budget”, 3rd party, games on U. They are all ports, none of which are high budget *by definition*. The only original U 3rd party game is pretty much ZombiU which sold hundreds of thousands, so this guy is basically repeating hearsay and rumor as fact–ignore him.

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      • (I’m sure someone will say Scribblenauts, but God help Warner if a port of a 3DS game that already had all its core tech in place was “high budget”.)

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    • my guess… activision with cod blops2. Wonder if they realize that people are getting bored of the uninnovative cod franchise?
      For fps i want more metroid! lol.
      Hopefully aliens is good.

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  2. I’m tired of these people saying that the Wii U is doomed or in serious trouble. It’s not. Sales may be not be that great at the moment but they will pick up when good games like Pikmin 3 and Smash bros come out. Remember, the 360 had a very rocky start because it didn’t have enough software and for 2 years it didn’t sell well. It wasn’t until some games came out that the system began to sell out. You can have a powerful system but you need software as well.

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    • Exactly! Wii U is still very young. 3-4 million sales in just 3 months isn’t that bad for a console picking up in the mainstream audience :) Mario Kart U, Mario RPG U (ex: Mario Galaxy), Smash Bros U, Kirby U, Pokemon U and Metroid U together can help sell at least 20 million more Wii Us.

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      • Why is everyone a fanboy to you lol, do you even know what it means? Every single time that someone defends Nintendo they are instantly a fanboy. You must be a great friend to take to a bar. Jellybean’s friend is getting punched in the face…then his friend throws a punch back “What are you doing hitting him back, you’re such a fanboy!” explains Jellybean.

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        • “Oh you’re buying two games? YOU LACK COMMON SENSE YOU IDIOT” – Tri-Pod

          Read what I said, then understand why I called him a fanboy. I don’t think everyone is a fanboy (I’ve even met some alright fanboys who actually admit it), I usually have a reason when calling someon– oh wait, you’re probably one too, don’t worry I won’t talk to you anymore, you probably won’t even take into account what I say and just spew back mindless rubbish and head into damage control like the other day.

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          • There was no justification for calling him a fan boy. He disagreed and then defended, He didn’t say he hated PS or Xbox or anything/anyone else, just that he thought that guy was an idiot. Damage control? lmao, You are in a state of permanent damage control, after every comment you make, damage control is absolutely necessary.

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            • Lol, and there was no justification for calling adarazz a fanboy, now here comes the hypocrisy!

              He disagreed in an immature way and insulted a developer just giving his opinion about Nintendo. The opinion was understandable and he then attacked the developer saying he lacked intelligence and that he was jealous of NIntendo’s success. YEP NOPE, NOT A FANBOY.

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          • Oh Jelly, I read your comments and i just smirk. Everyone seems to dislike you, cracks me up.
            Although, in my humble opinion if there are two phrases that shouldn’t be used anymore it is fanboy ( weather true or not) and butt hurt… So many kids running around saying butt hurt… blows my mind.

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        • Also, If someone punched my friend in the face, I’d be hunting down the person who hit him you worthless piece of shit. Stop assuming such crap.

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        • By the way, how’s crying like a little girl over Rayman being delayed going for you? Wait … who am I kidiing, little girls don’t care about a silly game lmao, I should give more credit to them.

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                  • I fully paid for the pre-ordered copy($68) I was expecting it to come. Ubisoft said that they wouldn’t port it over to the other consoles just to port it over to the other consoles(Which is exactly what they did). They even said that they couldn’t even port it over because of the features, They told us to buy a WIi U to play this game, Nintendo put this demo on every demo station across the globe for them. This is much more then a delayed release or a “Indian give” on exclusivity. They completely sold Nintendo out and Nintendo fans. They sold out there devs. I don’t know how this wouldn’t make anyone upset, I held Ubisoft in high regard before this decision. Also being angry and crying are 2 completely different things btw. Am I not allowed to be angry now, or does that make me a fan boy?

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          • To be fair, the Legends delay is total bullshit when dsvs have said the games already finished.
            Going multiplatform was just a matter of time, i guess Ubi couldnt afford to have it as a times exclusive (but apparetly can afford selling nothing at all by releasing it next to GTAV -.-)

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          • This is a Nintendo site, Nintendo Fanboys are welcome here, Not that I approve of such unconditional love towards a gaming company, but I will defend them from trolls and Ps360 fanboys all day long.

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          • Two haters here, wow that disappointing to see… Anyway this is just the first months of this console, anybody can’t predict if this console will succeed or not in the next 3 or 4 years in the future, that’s the real thing. Now stop been a haters, and at least support this videogame company (nobody here wants any company to fail, because in the end, US the costumers will be affected badly, and the people who make games, people who work hard for YOU, will be affected as well. If you call yourself a “gamer” support Nintendo to succeed, support Sony to succeed, Support Microsoft to succeed, and yeah support those PC game developers to succeed…

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  3. What game currently on the Wii U is expected to sell millions over time? Most of the games are ports and the exclusives are okay. I’m so sick of these people talking about the Wii U is doomed. With very little advertising and mostly ports, the Wii U has managed to sell over 3 million. Now, I’ll wager that if there were top games for the Wii U, the number of sold units would be through the roof. I hope they scrutinize the next Xbox/PS like their doing with the Wii U!

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    • People still do. Plenty of the big indie games you see started that way, but people just fell in love with them. Mojang started as just one guy in his bedroom.

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    • Yeah, mostly just indy devs making great games they themselves would like to play, then it seems to catch on and they sell a large amount while the large companies keep hashing out the same stuff they spend millions on and get pissed when they don’t make a profit lol.

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  4. so i checked out the games developed by “sidhe interactive” and well, i don’t think he got a weight on the industry and im suprised that they are still alive (really, look a the games), so there is no way nintendo is in “big trouble”

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  5. CURRECTION DEVELOPERS TALKED ABOUT GAMES THAT NEVER WERE IN DEVELOPMENT FOR WIIU IN A BID TO HATE ON NINTENDO

    JUST LIKE METRO LAST LIGHT DEVS DID WEN THQ WERE GOING BANKRUPT AND NINTENDO HAD DISRUPTED THE INDUSTRY

    YOU 12 YR OLD GAMERS NEED TO SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE THESE COMPANYS ARE A FART AWAY FROM DEATH IGNORE THERE NONSENSE

    METRO DEVS NEVER HAD A WIIU DEV KIT AND NEVER EVEN STARTED DEVELOPMENT ON WIIU THEY THEN BLAMED WIIU CPU AS THERE PUBLISHER WENT BANKRUPT

    WHAT HAS WIIUS CPU GOT TO DO WITH THQ BEING A DEAD COMPANY!!!!!!!!?

    EA TURNED ON WIIU DAYS AFTER NINTENDO STATED THERE BACK IN PROFIT !!!!!!!!!!?

    WAKE UP GUYS THERE LYING TO YOU

    WIIU EDRAM MEM0 140GB BANDWIDTH ESTIMATED VS X720S SRAM AT 102GB BSNDWIDTH –

    BUT WIIU IS WEAK ,THE NEW GAME ORDER IS LYING TO YOU

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  6. This is total lies! What games were cancelled for Wii U? They are lies unless they substantiate the allegations with evidence. What cancelled games? Total Bullcrap! What games did they release that is suppose to sell millions over time? They only good games I see are New Super Mario Bros Wii U and Nintendo Land and I think they will sell millions. Ubisoft is sore Zombie U under performed, it was hyped and it was a big disappointment with mixed reviews. Ubisoft is less than impressive.

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    • its a fanboy industry type loosing there rag because wiiu already won they saying WE HATE NINTENDO in other words there is no cancilled games its a hate campain by idiot sony fans who grew up to be devs the same thing happens on sites FANBOY NONSENSE

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    • zombiu is already making a cult classic following of its self, so it is actually selling more regularly now, plus with the new bundle it will be fine. Already heard rumors of a second

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  7. I don’t think this lack of faith in Wii U is going to hurt Nintendo in the future. Nintendo makes a comeback by saving itself and not relying on any other developers. The 3DS started really shifting units when Nintendo gave a price cut and released The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, Star Fox 64 3D, and Super Mario 3D Land. The Wii U will sell pretty well once 3D Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, and Super Smash Bros. are released. Plus, Nintendo is more than likely going to put an Animal Crossing on Wii U and that is a guaranteed system seller.

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    • Agreed, I think people (ha I called them people, that’s rich) Trolls saw Nintendo take their 1st loss and kinda ran with it. Nintendo’s been ‘in trouble’ since the Gamecube…

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      • Plus, people have to realize that the system is bound to do well in Japan because it is more Japanese friendly. The company of Nintendo is more Japanese friendly in general……..well because they are Japanese. I just have this feeling that the Wii U will be the best selling system in Japan for this generation with the PS4 following it and lastly Durango. Durango might come out on top in the West with a close fight for second between Wii U and PS4. This is all just guessing of course!

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        • I’m actually very curious what the PS4 and 720 will be, specifically, how they’ll sell if they’re a billion dollars. ? . We can only guess for now, but I’m worried… for the competition :P
          Weird…

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          • If they are super expensive then that means that it will be super expensive to develop on those platforms which will make software prices go through the roof thus causing a decline in sales which will really hurt the industry. Warren Spector had a good quote about this exact issue. I’m not 100% sure on the idea that the PS4 and 720 will be so far ahead of the Wii U like the PS360 was Wii. I don’t think it’s financially wise.

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      • actually they took a loss with each wii sold at first as well. Each system did with the last gen release, it’s a very normal thing, it’s games where the money is made not with systems. At least not too soon after release anyway.

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  8. zombiu is trash i got it release day here in uk months ago i havnt played it yet its CRAP cheap budget crap graphics poor analog stick aiming PUKE AIMING its a gimmic game..

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    • uhhhh, how can you say it’s crap when in the same sentence you state you haven’t played it? That statement makes me wonder if you even have it, or to that effect, a wii u even. Unfortunately, if you haven’t played it that makes your opinion of it a waste of breath. Go play it then come back and state an informed opinion, weather good or bad, at least you then have a right to form an opinion of it.

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  9. Yep, E3 is where we get cool announcements. And this drought guarantees Nintendo giving an awesome show in June(?). I’m guessing:
    .The Orbis and Durango will be revealed
    .They won’t announce the prices
    .Both will have to be expensive- huge power+huge memory=huge investment
    .Nintendo wows us with all the games we know are coming + surprises. Retro Y U no make Metroid? *Epic E3 Metroid trailer* :O

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  10. Obviously Wii U hardware and software sales are low at the moment, seeing as it’s a new console. It’s highly illogical to call doom and gloom on the Wii U this early by comparing it to the 360 and PS3. People are comparing an infant to two full grown adults. Pretty stupid actually. As we all know, new consoles are coming, and they will launch as infants, same as Wii U. However, a new era of consoles also means eventually dropping support for previous consoles as well, so at that point the 360 and PS3 will be irrelevant. The Wii U is a console prepared for the 8th generation, not the 7th. Now if the Wii U was being launched to compete against the 360 and PS3, then I’d understand the doom and gloom talks, but that is not the case. Heck, the Wii U is barely trying to compete with the PS4 and 720 either, it’s trying to make its own identity, and with the industry being in the state it’s in, that’s actually a very smart move. Now I assure you that when the PS4 and 720 launch, they will not sell better than this, the 360 and PS3 are still in their prime, and it’s going to be difficult to convince gamers that the end of the 7th gen of gaming has come, and it’s time for a new one. Not everyone is willing to drop money on a new console right now, especially in this economy. However, with the 360 and PS3 using ancient tech that developers are struggling to stay attuned to, new consoles must be launch to keep tech move forward, otherwise the 360 and PS3 will only hold things back. Ultimately, the new systems are going to take a while to sell, that’s natural. I think the Wii U will do just fine, it’s merely looking bad right now because the 360 and PS3 have built reputations, and are pretty much the go-to consoles right now, they are in their prime. It was the same situation after the 360 and PS3 launched, the PS2 and Xbox were still the go-to systems, and the PS2 continued to outsell the 360 and PS3 in both hardware and software for a good while. This is normal. Now if Wii U doesn’t at least hit the 10 million mark by this time next year, then I’d say the Wii U is in trouble. But right now, it’s far too early to make assumptions. All we can do is wait and see what happens. As many developers like Crytek and Ubisoft have stated numerous times “Never count Nintendo out.” Think about how many times we thought Nintendo was in trouble, only to get backlashed when they pulled out big surprises to prove us wrong. 3DS anyone?

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  11. WESTERN DEVELOPERS, except gear box and three others are morons. All the make are FPS and stupid games with unnecessary violence and gore. Cod, bioshock, battle field, crysis and far cry 3 have this nonsense in common; mindless FPS games. Borderlands 1 and 2 are true creative RPG style FPS works of art.

    Please give us eastern developers, their games are diverse and great. Throw in Randy Pitchford for good measure.

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  12. Western developers shake my head.

    Nintendo gave 3rd parties a chance, nintendo do what you always do. Make games and out game these visionless morons.

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  13. Wii U comes out = Lets talk about the bad Stuff about the system and never talk about the good stuff… all 80% of the good stuff…

    PS4/Xbox 720 = We know these systems are going to break down 24/7 but we love them…. even though the negatives over power the positives

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  14. I think Nintendo should increase their own games and create new IPs themselves if third-party developers still don’t support Wii U like they didn’t do with the Wii.
    It’s basically Nintendo games that sells systems anyway.

    But like I’ve said many times and some of you aswell, why is Nintendo not marketing their system?
    Will they come out with a better console in 2 years now instead?…

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  15. The Wii U is doomed.

    Just like 3DS.

    And Wii.

    And DS.

    And Gamecube.

    Oh, and there is NO POSIBLE WAY for PS4 and NextBox to flounder, sales-wise.

    Like the Vita.

    And Windows Phone.

    Mmmmyep.

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  16. I will never buy a console and install, or agree in EULAS taking and using my personal data… Mass effect 3, force u to agree and install origin in ur wii U, also get all ur personal data and use them in their behalf.. sell u in others…. So let them rot.

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  17. I don’t think the Wii U is in a big heap of trouble. In fact at this stage this is not too bad, maybe – considering the fact that its a new product on the market. When these companies see the rapid success of iPhones/smartphones it’s as if they are expecting the same kind of thing with everything else; but reality is that that may not be the case. After the release of the strong Wii U titles such as ‘X’ and Mario Kart, etc, the hopefully high sales will hopefully encourage developers to give solid support.

    From my view they just seem uncertain about fully investing into the Wii U at this time, compared to the well established alternatives. 3DS vs PSV is a kind of a like example.

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  18. Things can change for the WiiU, neither the Wii DS or 3DS had a good first 6 months, with everyone predicting doom. That said the situation with the WiiU is far more grim and this time the fans are feeling much more negative including myself. Nintendo should get with the times. It’s time for that Pokemon MMO. That’s how they will get a console flying off the shelves.

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  19. Are investors ignorantly listening to that retro fag Sean Malstrom again? Because that’s what this horseshit reads like.

    That guy is trying to ruin the company for everyone with his ignorance. No one should ever take his advice. EVER!

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  20. I feel like new Wii U games just aren’t coming out….

    It’s sad that this console is failing miserably right now. I mean, the limited edition black Wii U is still easily available everywhere, even being packaged again with Zombi U. What the hell is going on? I wish they’d hurry up and get the good games out. They’re screwing this up so bad.

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