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Pachter Predicts Wii U Will Sell 20 Million Units Worldwide

Video game industry analyst Michael Pachter believes that the Wii U will sell around 20 million units worldwide during this console cycle. The prediction was part of a speech that Pachter delivered during a DICE Europe conference which took place last week. During the conference Pachter told audience members that the console installed base is as big as it’s ever going to get and that it won’t be bigger than the last generation, it will be around the same.

“The console installed base is as big as it’s ever going to get,” he said. “[This] generation is not going to be bigger than the last generation. We’re going to be about the same.”

“The Wii U is going to sell 20 million units compared to 100 million for the Wii. The PlayStation 4 is going to sell 120 million or 130 million – that’s great. The Xbox One will sell 100 million to 110 million – that’s great. Add it all together and it’s 260 million units, maybe, and the last cycle was 270 million.”


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122 thoughts on “Pachter Predicts Wii U Will Sell 20 Million Units Worldwide”

    1. No, it makes no sense. It sold a little over 10 million during it’s strongest years. It won’t sell another 10 million without Mario, Smash, Mario Kart… It’s sales will only plummet as the years go. I predict 14 million.

      1. It will sell about 25 million by dec 2017 due to big titles in 2016 like Zelda WiiU/Pokken Tournament/Pikmin4 ect Zelda with the right marketing will sell 10 million consoles alone…..and in 2017 the NX Home will come out and this will drop the price of WiiU to say £179 which will help sell tons more as long as they keep supporting it ??

        There shipping 20 million NX consoles in 1st year so expect this to be the portable NX because no home console would ever ship that many so it’s either NX Portable due to ds selling 10 million in 6 month’s that time here’s the link….,news-22531.html

        Or they could be releasing both Home/Portable at same time ???? that would also explain 20 million shipped in 1st year..

        1. “Zelda with the right marketing will sell 10 million consoles alone”
          Zelda has NEVER sold 10 million game units on release, let alone moving 10 million console units. Hell, the only Zelda game that sold 10 million units counting re-releases was Ocarina of Time, and that’s because it has been ported to every console under the sun. Even so, it doesn’t even reach 11 million. Stop talking out of your ass.

          1. Wait and see mate maybe not Zelda alone but with that Pokken Tournament ect i think it could plus the wiiu will prob get a price cut due to that NX portable or what ever it is coming in 2016….there will be lots of wii owners that will buy a wiiu for a new epic Zelda plus i think there are lots of people waiting for a fairly big price drop on wiiu and it’s not looking exactly baron in terms of games for the future and Nintendo say they will keep supporting it after the NX range so it’s safe to say it will reach 25 million by the end of 2017 no matter how you look at it….

            The biggest bull is the predictions of sales for Xbox1/ps4 ??? they might reach them numbers by 2020….by then no1 will give a crap.

            1. Xenorogue Master Ridley X3

              I love Zelda as much as I do Metroid and love them both to death but you’re overestimating the power of Zelda.

            2. Zelda could sell those numbers if Nintendo goes all out on marketing and advertising. Pokken Tournament certainly has the IP power to be a major seller for the Wii U globally. Another game that will sell well in 2016 that Matt has failed to mention that recently got delayed was Starfox Zero. While yes the Starfox franchise has never really been a major selling one the game is still hotly anticipated and I’m pretty sure many gamers out there will be anxious to see how it looks and plays in HD for the first time. Pikmin 4 is up in the air because it very well be moved to the NX. Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem has a chance to be a decent seller in 2016 if pushed right. I don’t think Matt’s sales prediction are too far off but it’s gonna take a major marketing push by Nintendo to make it come to fruition

              1. Skyrim, with its marketing budget and being available in 3 different platforms (360, PS3 and PC) ‘only’ sold 20 million units. Let that sink in for a minute. You’re saying Zelda U can sell half the units a new The Elder Scrolls game can if Nintendo just bothers to advertise it. That every single person that currently possesses a Wii U would get that game if Nintendo just advertised the fuck out of it. That’s not delusion, that’s insanity. Not even with Bethesda or Rockstar’s marketing budgets can you achieve an attach rate of nearly 100%, it’s simply not going to happen.

                1. And I should add: the combined sales of 360 and PS3 consoles by 2013 (the year when the Skyrim numbers were published) amounts to 158 million consoles. That’s an 8% attach rate.

                  1. With all due respect, Skyrim is no Zelda, it’s not even close. The Zelda franchise is far more relevant and has vastly more staying power than any Bethesda game and yeah even the Fallout franchise. If Zelda Wii U gets the same type of advertising that Skyrim got I guarantee you the results would be overwhelming. For you to compare Skyrim to Zelda is highly laughable and besides, who wouldn’t want to play a full fledged Zelda game in HD?

                    1. “The Zelda franchise is far more relevant”
                      Historically? Yes. In sales numbers and fanbase? Hell no. The numbers speak for themselves.

                      You’re absolutely mistaken if you think I’m biased towards TES/Fallout. I like Zelda better, actually, especially the 2D ones. I’m just talking numbers here, which are the only tangible proof that we have when discussing these kind of topics.

                      “If Zelda Wii U gets the same type of advertising that Skyrim got I guarantee you the results would be overwhelming.”
                      That’s what you’re not seeing. Even with that kind of advertisement, the result are NOT that great at all. 20 million is not a small number by any means, but by hype and discussion level you’d think that Skyrim would be sitting at +30 millions when it’s not even close to that, it just has a lot of staying power in the media.

                      And my point is that the results are even worse if you take into account the amount of platforms it was available at. Zelda U will be available in ONE platform, and one with 10 a million userbase. It’s impossible for it to sell that much.

                      1. Who said 20 million? I’m saying Zelda has a chance to sell 10 million if there’s constant advertsing and a massive build up. The Wii U is closing in on 11 million and could sell around 13 million (14 million at a stretch) before the year is out. You forget that the Wii U will have a cluster of bonafide system sellers (Pokken Tournament, Starfox Zero, Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem, Pikmin 4 (possibly), and of course Zelda Wii U) that surely drive up sales. I’m not saying that Wii U will sell 25 million guaranteed but it could certainly reach it if at least 2 more two more top notch titles gets announced

                        1. Xenorogue Master Ridley X3

                          Sorry but like the other guy, you’re also overestimating Zelda’s power… and this is coming from a fucking huge Zelda fan right here.

                        2. it’s late for the Wii U, MK8 and Smash Bros did not save the console. Zelda MAY sell those numbers. Remember there is a upcoming console, so the Wii U is on its dead race.
                          if it sells 20 millions, i would call it a miracle

                          1. That is only 3.66 million a year including this year. The Wii U has been selling around 3.0 to 3.5 million a year. It is not that big of a guess. 25 million is a tougher guess as it would require the that yearly million to go way above of what wii u has been doing.

                          2. wii you will sell 15mio at is max.
                            nx wont sell in europe and america, only in japan (when its a hybrid handheld & home console).
                            so nx will sell 5 mil in japan, worldwide 7
                            nobody buys nx in the first year when its underpowered.
                            this is propabtly the last n console.
                            im a big nintendo fan and buyet every console at day one.
                            nx i wont buy (only the zelda game to collect) play the zelda game on wii u.

                            1. @matt “it’s safe to say it will reach 25 million by the end of 2017 no matter how you look at it….” lol

                              1. The thing I am trying to say is that they were thinking the game was going to sell 1.99 million copies TODAY but it has 5.43 million copies sold today so they were wrong

                              2. Love it. Guy is way off again. Wiiu won’t go past 14m. The other 2 hard to say but ps4 will hands down win the race. And it’s deserved.

                              3. I’m having trouble picturing the current gen consoles selling 270 million units. If anything, I’d be surprised if they surpass last generation, but considering PS3’s turnabout, you never know.

                                  1. Skyrocketing is an understatement, really. I don’t see that happening again at the same level, but I know of many people that will get one as soon as it has more interesting exclusives. I wouldn’t be surprised if a significant portion of the gaming community shared that mindset.

                                1. I hardly believe the Wii U will make that much of sold units. Not exactly due to its horsepower, but due to Nintendo abandomning the console and depriving it from a number of strong franchises as of yet (Zelda, F-Zero, Metroid, Kid Icarus, Pokemon, Golden Sun, Sin and Punishment) and delivering half-assed games, like the “wanna-be 3D Mario” Super Mario 3D World, the “wanna-be an Animal Crossing title” Animal Crossing – Amiibo Festival, and the “wanna-be Star Fox” Star Fox Zero — still have hopes for this one, though.

                                  On top of that, we have all the bad image Nintendo built this generation for its home console division, all the lies told by the clowns at NoA, all the cancelled projects over the last and this generation… Yeah, when one sums it all up, one reaches the conclusion that another 10 mil units is such an impossible thing to do.

                                  Finally, he stretched his predictions for the PS4 and XBox one, as usual. It is true that this generation both Sony and Microsoft have the upper hand, but both making over 100 mil units each is delusional.

                                  1. “It is true that this generation both Sony and Microsoft have the upper hand, but both making over 100 mil units each is delusional.”
                                    I agree about the Xbox, but I still think the PS4 has a fair chance. Remember the PS3 launch: priced at 600$ with no games. It’s not like the PS4 is drowning in games, but at least it’s not THAT overpriced, and has some of the most anticipated games ever in their future release list. Comparatively, it’s doing just fine.

                                    1. Your forgetting NX range will be here soon and that will impact sales on ps4,Xbox1 sales are not that much better then WiiU..also NX will have a portable and a home console so this will become a force beyond playstation even in the UK because Nintendo Portable’s are major in the UK so I’m sure this will slow sales of the ageing ps4 by that point….Nintendo will be happy at 25 million wiiu’s sold i think and if they keep supporting it then it will defo get there by 2017.

                                      1. I’m afraid the attach rate to the NX — whatever it is — be below Nintendo expectations. I’ll put the NX on hold myself, since I was a day-1 Wii U supporter and got extremely unsastified with it.

                                          1. I’m happy lots of people out there really enjoy the Wii U. Really, I’m not being sarcastic.

                                            I had high hopes on it, but I think Nintendo decided to put their efforts on the 3DS almost exclusively. That was really frustrating to me.

                                            1. Third parties backing out the way they did really hurt the Wii U. Nintendo cannot support to platforms without help from third parties. Some are making the to that crowd games like Disney infinity, Skylanders, and Lego games but other than the small 3rd Parties (Indies), Nintendo is on their own. It is a shame as the potential with the gamepad for some third party games would have been great.

                                              1. I feel that Nintendo didn’t want to take certain risks this generation, which is a risk itself — I know already said that a while ago, but still. I know “money hatting” is shady, but it became a practice in the gaming industry in this day and age. Nintendo reportedly has gazillions of money in their bank account, so why not pay thirdies to deliver some of their games to the Wii U? Other than that, why not giving thirdies some of the dormant Nintendo’s IPs and a amount of money to make them succeed again? In business, one needs to invest to gain a profit — there is no lunch for free. I still think thirdies left Nintendo because Nintendo was not able to properly deal with them.

                                                  1. Yeah, Nintendo really played it safe. My dlargest disappointment is 3D World. Most of their games were played safe, sure, but they did a really darn good job on the effort. Look at Mario Kart 8, Pikmin 3, Smash, etc. Speaking of taking tisks, I respect what Platinum did with W101, but unfortunately, I don’t see them taking any more of those creative risks.

                                                    1. MK8 is the best 1st party title on the Wii U, the second one overall — for me, Bayonetta 2 exceeds all the possible expectations a gamer can have.

                                                      Platinum is a fantastic developer, and I’m looking forward to play Scalebound.

                                                      I played only like 2 or 3 hours of W101. Need to go back to it. I enjoyed the hectic gameplay a lot, but by the time I bought it, I was playing other games that were in que queue.

                                                      1. I see what you mean. But I would love to have Street Fighter, MGS V, Splinter Cell, Mortal Kombat, Star Wars Battlefront, Tomb Raider, Mass Effect, Deus Ex, Assassins Creed and other big franchises on the Wi U, for example. Nowadays, Wii U owners are regrettably treated like 2nd class citizens, and this sucks a lot.

                                                        1. I’d rather have original exclusive games instead of inferior ports of already existing games. It gave the Wii a couple of great gems, and some of them wouldn’t be possible in the vanilla versions of the other consoles.

                                                        2. Xenorogue Master Ridley X3

                                                          It sucks even worse considering Nintendo themselves are also treating Wii U owners as 2nd class citizens. They’ve already given two games that should have been exclusive to the Wii U to the freaking 3DS: Super Smash Bros 4 & Hyrule Warriors. I wonder what’s next on the list of Wii U exclusives to go multiplat.

                                                        3. Lots? I bet only more than half of the sold units got resold, maybe destroyed because of the clusterfuck of betrayal and lack of support Nintendo has show..for the sake of casual fucks and garbage like Mobile.

                                                          1. Well… I said “lots” because there are people out there that always show satisfaction with it… Nintendo Life, GoNintendo and Playeressence are full of those happy consumers.

                                                            I’m totally unsatisfied with the Wii U, but that’s me. Sometimes I feel I need to relax a bit, but Nintendo pissed me off big time.

                                                            Also, you raised a good point: how many Wii U have been traded in? I guess a lot, due to, like you said, the betrayal, lies and monkey business. Nintendo ruined its image this generation, and will take a looong time to make its fans happy again.

                                                            1. Xenorogue Master Ridley X3

                                                              All those refurbished Wii Us on So I’m willing to bet a good number of people sold their Wii Us back to somewhere. I mean, I doubt used Wii Us just fall out of the sky for Nintendo to refurbish, after all.

                                                            2. As long as the PS3 had the best tech available by 2006, I remember the $ 600.00 price tag. When I looked at that, I remember saying “WTF?”.

                                                              I agree on the PS4 having a certain amount of good games already launched and other ones coming next. But I’m still unsire it will break the 100 mil units sold due to the migration towards handhelds and mobile devices.

                                                              Of course, time will tell.

                                                              That being said, I’ve been playing the XBox One with regular frequency and I’m almost convinced that it offers a better experience than the PS4. Don’t get me wrong, both are fantastic, but it seems to me that the XBox One has better exclusives. Also, I think the XBox One controller is slightly better than the Dualshock 4.

                                                              1. “But I’m still unsire it will break the 100 mil units sold due to the migration towards handhelds and mobile devices.”
                                                                True, that’s a fair point and the reason I’m not entirely convinced about it happening. Just saying that if one of the three has a fair chance, I think it’s the PS4.

                                                                About the catalog, you’d be right, since the only worthwhile exclusive it has is Bloodborne. Onlyonconsole is useful to keep up with that.

                                                                1. Yes, if there is a candidate, it definitely is the PS4.

                                                                  I’ve played Boodborne at my local Best Buy and it didn’t click me, truth be told. Maybe too much gore for my taste. The only PS4 exclusives I own are Killzone Shadow Fall (didn’t like it, though) and Infamous Second Son. I’m looking forward to Uncharted Collection and Uncharted 4.

                                                                  1. I’m probably biased towards Bloodborne since I’m a Souls fan, and I’m really not interested in the other titles you mentioned. I’d like this generation to distance itself from the previous one a bit further. Bloodborne feels like the right step in that regard, I’d like to see more IPs tweaking the gameplay and setting of their games to offer new experiences.

                                                                    1. Right, sometimes I feel that devs hit the wall already in terms of novelty. Although Nintendo tried to step up with the gamepad, the experiment sadly failed hard, although I take my hat off for them for at least trying something new. But requiring gamers to share their attention between 2 screens and providing a controller which fits the best only for people with big hands was a big letdown.

                                                                      I don’t see the industry going forward in terms of novelty, honestly. Maybe the VR is still a thing, but I don’t know…

                                                                      1. “Although Nintendo tried to step up with the gamepad, the experiment sadly failed hard”
                                                                        About this, a funny thing happened to me the other day. I just bought a pro controller recently to replay Bayonetta and Tropical Freeze, and the idea of checking if the rest of my library is compatible with it came to my mind.Turns out more than half of the games support it as a control option. That says something.

                                                                        “I don’t see the industry going forward in terms of novelty, honestly.”
                                                                        Not the tripple A side of the industry, that’s for sure. Most of the non-retro games that surprise me the most these days are made by small developers or indie studios.

                                                                        1. I love the pro controller: the grip, the weight, the button layout. Whenever it is possible, I always play with it.

                                                                          On the small studios/indies, Gaijin Games (nowadays “Choice Provisions”), Way Forward and Yatch Club Studios have a good track record as of yet.

                                                                          1. It reminds me of the 360’s gamepad, and that’s a great thing.

                                                                            About the studios, I don’t think I know the first one. I’ll check them out. Thanks!

                                                                            1. I’m not saying it will happen, I’m saying It CAN happen given the track record of their previous consoles and the possibility of developing good exclusive titles in the nearby future.

                                                                              1. I don’t think so. This generation has been pathetic as far as sales go. I think the PS4 will sale 90 million at the most.

                                                                                  1. I don’t think so… The PS4 sold 24 million world wide and it’s been out for almost two years. The Wii sold over 25 million in America alone within two years, and the Wii sold only a million more than 100 million.

                                                                                      1. I was a bit wrong there. Lol. It sold a bit under 20 million in the U.S. alone. World Wide it sold 35 million.

                                                                                        My point still stands though. I don’t think the PS4 will crack 100 million. I think it will get 90 million at the most. Not even because of Pachter, I’m predicting this because the PS4 is not selling as well as the Wii and sales have been low this generation of consoles.

                                                                                      2. I hardly believe that. The Wii U is a terrible console. The new 3DS XL is going to sell more. I still have a 3DS (purple) and I’m satisfied with that but if I was to get a new console I would buy the XL.

                                                                                          1. No. Because he’s right. 3DS is a far superior console than its big brother and it shouldn’t be the case. Nintendo fucked up big time and now there’s certainty that there’s no turning back from their damages and mistakes towards their true loyal fans. Now they’re nothing but a casual-flooding mess with no plans or sense of cleaning up. As of now, gaming is truly dead now that Nintendo is dead.

                                                                                                      1. There’s just no viable way that the Wii U could push that many consoles in the next couple years. Most of the sales of future big first party releases are going to be from the nintendo fans that have already bothered to buy the console. Fanboys are a bunch of broken records around first party releases, screaming bloody murder about how this game is going to boost Wii U sales exponentially, or that one has a huge fanbase, thus it will automatically push consoles. No, time and time again we’ve been shown that this hasn’t been the case since many of the console’s first parties in it’s first year or so. Even smash didn’t push console sales heavily, and with that, I’d say there’s very little hope of shoving 10 million more Wii Us down the throats of people worldwide.

                                                                                                        1. “Fanboys are a bunch of broken records around first party releases, screaming bloody murder about how this game is going to boost Wii U sales exponentially, or that one has a huge fanbase, thus it will automatically push consoles. No, time and time again we’ve been shown that this hasn’t been the case since many of the console’s first parties in it’s first year or so. ”

                                                                                                          Spot on, my friend. Pretty much that. That behavior is indeed a hallmark of Nintendo fanboys, which are unable to conjecturing properly.

                                                                                                          1. That’s basically 3 million a year which is what the Wii u has been doing. Not out of the realm as some would think. You are not counting sales of this year.

                                                                                                        2. He said Mariokart would sell 2 million its sold over 6 million ??? Zelda will sell 10 million wiiu’s easy and if it’s looking even better now then bk when they demoed it then wow…..

                                                                                                          1. No Zelda will not. A collection of wii u games can if they keep with selling 3.66 million a year. Just because a new console would be coming out in a couple years doesn’t mean a the old console stops selling.

                                                                                                        3. PS4 is the most overhyped console ever and it’s just the new casual console less million sellers then wiiu sort of proves at least wiiu owners are more hardcore for actually buying the good games and Nintendo are building trust from wiiu owners due to amazing games,casuals buy Xbox and Playstation to play yearly releases of the same CRAP not to buy games like Smash Bros or Mariokart ect because they will get owned…..

                                                                                                          NX will own the UK and leave the Playstation brand dead and buried the gaming division is the only profit they have left and if they think ps4 can fend off a console that is combining Home/Portable then your kidding yourself,Nintendo with this strategy will dominate all regions…

                                                                                                          This strategy means huge game support for both NX consoles it’s very clever because it will offer 3rd partys 2 consoles to make the same game on,basically think as an example Fifa17 on both it will make EA rich as we all know the portables sell by the bucket load and now they get to play 70% the same games as the Home Console….

                                                                                                            1. Hopefully Nintendo corrects the mistakes they made with the Wii U. They have great IPs and it’s a shame that the Wii U did so bad. First they need to get rid of that gamepad and go back to motion controls.

                                                                                                          1. Just picture all of the stupid suckers out there who’s missing out on the great games that the Wii U has. They have no clue what they’re missing.

                                                                                                            1. HollowGrapeJ (The Legendary Video Game Master And Anime Wizard)

                                                                                                              Not to me. I got rid of it and didn’t really regret it. Although, if I still had a Wii U, I’d probably get Splatoon and Bayonetta 2.

                                                                                                              1. You would get bored of Bayonetta 2 after the first play. Splatoon, I’ve seen better than doesn’t restrict controls, ditch optional voice chat and sell itself at full price without any content via rushing to delay the drought problem; since Destiny.

                                                                                                            2. Why do people STILL believe Pachter? He was wrong on a lot of things, and he backtracked so many times. If Pachter predicts something, expect the opposite. The Xbox One and PS4 won’t crack a million. The Xbox One lifetime sales are not even at 15 million, so… It’s even much of a disappointment because the Xbox One has damn near every game the PS4 has and it still isn’t selling as much. The Xbox One will sell 60 million at the most. The PS4 will sell 90 million at the most.

                                                                                                            3. 20 mil? That’s a bit optimistic, especially from Patcher. I would say 15 mil at most. There’s only a few big titles left for the Wii U and I don’t expect it to gain much more sales than they already have as Nintendo switches it’s priority to NX.

                                                                                                            4. Not selling 20 Million. There is no way, unless Nintendo Advertise the Wii U everyday, on every channel, in every country. And knowing Nintendo’s track record with Advertising the Wii U, we would be lucky to get one Advert on T.V a month.
                                                                                                              As in, there is no way, Nintendo is selling 10 Million Wii U’s, from now, until Fall 2017, when I expect the NX to come out.
                                                                                                              This is coming from a Wii U owner since the Weekend it released in the U.K. I love the console and think it, dispite the limited library of games, those games that are on Wii U are, for the most part, great.
                                                                                                              For the NX, Nintendo need to learn from their mistakes that they did during the Wii U’s lifecycle and make sure those mistakes aren’t repeated.
                                                                                                              I’m going with 15 Million, Max.

                                                                                                              1. Either way, it’s clear that this console is Nintendo’s biggest failure since VB and even VB is better than this shit. GameCube is ROFL it’s in grave at Wii U’s wasted existence and the dumbasses on earth blindly loving the hell out of this casual shit mountain of a mess. Man I can’t believe I have wasted my time and money TWICE with this console and thought it was better. Fuck, Wii had better games in its time. GameCube, GB family and DS all had a lot more creative and fun games than this. Only what, Splatoon is the only excuse it has to justify its lie of being a good console, a fucking 4v4 chatless and near content-less Nickelodeon-like multiplayer game?

                                                                                                                1. Justice has been done to GCN, my friend. The GCN is a great console — by the way, have you compared Star Fox Zero and Star Fox Assault? Assault is 10 years old and looks pretty much better than Zero.

                                                                                                                  Also, I 100% agree with you on the Wii: it had a much better library than the Wii U has.

                                                                                                                  1. If Assault was remade for 3DS with online play and fixed controls, I would’ve been a lot happier with that than 64 which is awfully short and same predictable gameplay plus on-rails is so 90s arcade. Zero is exactly what 64 was: a remake of the first game…again. Even when you watch the comparison video of Zero and 64 3D, it looks almost identical. I’m not joking. It’s the same fucking game again and it makes CoD seem more original in between. X(

                                                                                                                    1. Never though about Zero being a remake of a remake… But makes sense. Star Fox Zero is pretty much a 90’s arcade!

                                                                                                                      I watched those Zero footages, and yes, Corneria is exactly the same on both 3DS and Wii U. Although Platinum and Nintendo are trying to implement different mechanics to the game, all the footage we saw as of today looks boring, plain and bland. Nothing happens on the screen and people do not smile at all. I’m still thinking that the delay can be beneficial, but… Yeah, I should keep my expectations low and accept Nintendo took almost a decade to make a new iteration of Star Fox and lost the opportunity because they decided to play safe and make the most of profit expending the least of resources.

                                                                                                                      Greedy clowns…

                                                                                                                      1. Unfortunately, that’s the case and why I hate Nintendo now. 3DS is my last stop on their “kiddy” casual train which 3DS isn’t exactly casual. It’s their very last best console with best games they can offer before they finally sink, struggle to swim and drown in the shallow end of their casual gene pool.

                                                                                                                        1. As I stated earlier, Wii U had been selling 3 to 3.5 million a year. How is it no way it can happen, if they still sell that amount in 2015, 2016, and 2017 and little more after a new console is out. Console don’t just stop selling when a new console come out.

                                                                                                                        1. Xenorogue Master Ridley X3

                                                                                                                          He’s still wrong. It will be the opposite of what he says. Since 20 million sold would be a good thing, the Wii U will sell even less. If Pachter says something positive about Nintendo, the negative happens. If he says something negative, the positive happens. He just effectively doomed the Wii U to have mediocre sales at the end of it’s lifetime.

                                                                                                                          1. 20 million? That’s a pretty generous took them 3 years to get just half of that. Even if Nintendo where to release blockbuster after blockbuster next year(which I doubt will happen),I can’t see the Wii U selling 15 million by the time NX is out

                                                                                                                            1. Xenorogue Master Ridley X3

                                                                                                                              Pachter wishes he was stating the obvious. He just doomed the Wii U to mediocre sales at 15m or less. Since he predicted a positive outcome, the opposite will occur. Then again, the Wii U was most likely doomed to be mediocre either way.

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