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Nintendo Switch’s Dock Rumoured To Increase Performance

We are slowly learning more and more about the Nintendo Switch hardware. According to the latest report, the Switch’s dock will improve the system’s performance when it is connected. This is line with several of the leaks from before the console’s official reveal a few months ago. The rumour states that the system will connect to the dock using the super fastΒ USB CΒ and will allow the console to achieve 1080p visuals on a television. This would certainly improve the console’s performance, the portable Switch acting as a diminished version of the docked system.

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    1. It is easier than that, and has been explained very clearly by the source: When docked, the Switch is connected through USB-C. This gives the console the extra power it needs so the CPU can achieve 1080p (by overclocking) and send it through the same USB-C to the HDMI connected TV. It also has another fan, that gives extra ventilation to the integrated fans in the console. So, Switch is just powered up.

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      1. I had a Asus Padfone Transformer whitch acted the same way. If you docked the phone into the tablet, it achieved greater performance by increase the CPU’s clock. Same principle with laptop. Is the charger in; games run smoother.

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      2. That’s total bullshit! Notebooks are the same whether they’re charging or not. The only difference is the power management, but you can manually set your notebook to full performance even when on battery! It’s probably the same with your phone, you just didn’t realize.

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      3. yes, you can set performance on such a device to do that, but it drains the battery. That’s why initially they’re set to only run at max when connected to a power source. The concept of “overclocking” a processor is that you push the limits of what it can do when necessary for a period of time, since in the general case you don’t need it to run at max spec. To do that when running on a battery however, is kind of foolhardy as you put significant strain on the battery itself.

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      4. My Alienware couldn’t push the same limits on battery even though I forced it to use high power consumption. The system just clocks down for more power efficiency and stability, and keeps it to that level. Same principle with my phone, and probably the same with the Switch. When hooked up to its power supply it just reach max clock/full potential.

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      5. It is not only for power efficieny, but rather for the fact that batteries are not able to deliver the power needed to run at max. clocking. The batteries of a highend notebook can’t deliver the 135 W which the power-brick provides.

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      6. It is bullshit because he was saying that connecting the phone or laptop to a power supply gives more perfomance, which is not true! Both devices can have the same performance without power supply.
        The Switch is different, because according to rumours it NEEDS the dock for higher performance. The obvious reason is better cooling, but potentially also higher current.

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      7. I only stated this because the MyNintendo post made it sound like the dock had the extra power.
        And also I’m pretty sure my description is easier to follow than yours.

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      8. There’s nothing particularly clever about this. It underclocks and turns of its fan to increase battery life on the go and turns the fan back on when it’s actually being powered and brings the clock speed back up. It’s nothing unique. The Microsoft Surface does the same thing.

        If the dock is using USB C to connect things then the dock better have something to help line up the systems with the dock or people will break off the USB-C connector.

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      9. As I read in the original source, the Switch has its own fans, and the one that turns on when docked is the extra fan in the dock. I don’t believe the Switch fan turns off at all (maybe only in menus and things less demanding).

        It may not be unique, but you only need to use something that already exists in a unique way to innovate. There are currently no consoles or portables that do this, tablets don’t count.

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  1. Most if not all laptops work similarly.
    If plugged in, the laptop increases its processor speed among other things. It’s not crazy to think the switch will do the same.

    Of course on a laptop, you can also set it to perform at full power by adjusting your settings, which greatly reduces battery life of course. I doubt switch will allow, or even need to allow that tho.

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  2. I was trying to tell people that the dock was gonna increase the NS’s power hence why Kimishima hinted at future hardware add-ons but they didn’t want to listen to me. I’m not saying it’s gonna be a PS4 killer but the Switch is a lot more powerful than what people think and I’m certain there will be another dock that will be capable of 4K rendering by the time the PS5 comes out. Can’t wait to here more about this potentially incredible system come January

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    1. Interesting because it is then conceivable that you can upgrade you dock without having to buy an entire console and make an upgrade cheaper and easier to execute when the other companies make their next leap.

      Two generations in one possibly.

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      1. Exactly and it totally sounds like Nintendo to do something like that. What you explained could very well be the future of console gaming because if Nintendo strikes gold with the Switch you can bet that Sony and Microsoft will follow suit with Switch copycats of their own. All 3 companies would save lots of money just by making upgradable docks/hardware add-ons rather than making brand new systems. This could also be the reason why Nvidia is saying they see them and Nintendo having a strong partnership for decades to come

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    2. That’s completely impossible paidenthusiast. The dock isn’t adding any processing power, it is just adding power. Do some research on how CPUs, GPUs, and memory communicate with each other and you’ll see that graphics work, especially at 4k, requires hundred of gigabytes of memory bandwidth. If the dock and main console are only connecting with USB-C then we’re talking about, at max, 625MB/s of bandwidth. To but that in perspective, the Gamecube’s CPU and GPU communicate at 1.2GB/s. Even if the USB-C port supported USB 3.1, it would still only connect at about 1.28GB/s. That is an abyssal amount of bandwidth and can’t be used to increase the performance of the system.

      I’ll give you more examples. The PS4, which is a 1080p console, has 178GB/s of memory bandwidth. Newer phones like the Galaxy S7 and iPhone 7 have at least 25.6GB/s. The Xbox Scorpio, which is trying to be a 4k system, is supposed to have 320GB/s.

      Even if a new dock had it’s own GPU and memory to try to get around the speed limitations of USB, it would be inherently changing the memory structure of the system and not only adding a great amount of complexity to development, but the CPU would still be communicating with the dock at speeds slower than some high-end LAN cards require.

      It’s cool that you’re hyped and you see all sorts of potential to the dock, but when speculating about all these things, you should familiarize yourself with the complexities of how computing works.

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      1. Hey Mark: your not smarter than everyone else. You can stop flaunting your rich and exuberant vocabulary. When it comes to acting like your shit doesnt stink, you should familiarize yourself with the complexities of the smell of shit. Yours stinks. Hard.

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      2. Pick the mic back up, darth. That’s a small b not a big b. 40 gigabits per second is 5 gigabytes.

        You do make a good point though, that it could be Thunderbolt and that would bring it up to a bandwidth very similar to PCI-Express 5x, if there were such a thing. That would allow performance to be increased but the dock would still need it’s own high-performance VRAM which would change the memory structure so that the CPU would use the DRAM inside the Switch while the GPU in the dock would use it’s own memory. Since there are a number of inherent problems with two GPUs, especially of varying performance, being used together, the internal GPU would likely be disabled… especially if the SoC in the Switch has any sort of high-bandwidth embedded memory for the G-buffer.

        I find it funny that you think I’m flaunting my vocabulary because I used words like “complexity” and “speculate” which are actually really common words. And I know that anytime I write something on the internet, there’s the chance I’ll be scrutinized by some self-assured prick like yourself but it’s funny every goddamn time.

        Please respond. I can’t wait to see you make an ass out of yourself more :-D

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      3. retards directly compares totally different designs and talks utter shite abot performance

        wiiu and xbone have 1080p games wiiu has 720p and 480p 60fps ob two seperate screens and xbopne has FAR MORE real world bandwith than a ps4 FACT

        real world xbone has 170gb ps4 has 100 to 120gb gddr5 is welll nown to not get close to its on paper numbers ikindly shut up

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    1. I hope you are investing more time into SEO than trying to share your Nintendo blog on one of the BEST Nintendo blogs. :) I looked at your blog. Ok? It’s a start, but it will take you years to develop a solid blog, and you need to add a lot more Polish and find a way to differentiate yourself.

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  3. The headline is kind of misleading. It’s not that the Switch is more powerful in the dock; it’s that the switch is less powerful, or has it’s power limited, when not in the dock. This is probably obvious, but the reasons for doing this are to save battery, cut down on heat production, and simply because the resolution of the screen probably mitigates any advantage to having the Switch run at full power when portable anyway.

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    1. A lot of people got confused. It is not only the title, but the article itself. Usually mynintendonews.com explains better this technical aspects, but today they failed. And worse than that, even people get mad at the ones that try to explain that confusion.

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    1. There is no additional hardware in the dock that boosts performance – this article merely says that when connected to the dock(aka connected to power) the switch can overclock its processor, giving it a boost in power. Many computers have similar functionality. It does additionally say that there is a fan in the dock to relieve some of the excess heat that this process produces, but otherwise the performance boost comes not from the dock itself but from connecting the switch to power.

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    2. It was not a romour, it was official. The dock DOESN’T increas perfomance/power. The post’s tittle is misleading. This rumour (old by the way but now has raised again) said that the switch will be overcloking when connected to the dock, because power supply and an extra fan. So technicaly the dock DOESN’T increase switch power but the switch ITSELF will be more powerful. I hope I helped.

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    1. Nintendo doesn’t lie. The NDA remains in effect until January 12th. That’s classified information until the live presentation.

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