You may recall that, earlier this week, it was reported that Nintendo was suing the creators of the Nintendo Switch emulator Yuzu for “illegally circumventing Nintendo’s software encryption”, facilitating piracy and fueling spoilers before games release. Since then, there hasn’t been any further developments about the matter.
However, that has now changed. It has been reported that the Yuzu creators have responded to Nintendo’s lawsuit, and they have hired a lawyer. Legal matters such as this typically move through the justice system rather slowly, so it will likely be a while before there’s any verdict. Nevertheless, you can see a tweet relaying the news of Yuzu’s response down below.
I dont think Yuzu will win this.
They have precedent on their side from what I remember. Nintendo hasn’t won any lawsuits against emulators in the past
Yuzu is cooked I’m afraid
Wouldn’t be surprised if Nintendo does the strategy that Sony did a couple decades ago with an emulator called, Bleem!, where they keep extending the lawsuits till the Defendant runs out of money to pay for lawyers; Despite if the Defendant wins the cases.
Bleem situations was doomed from the start. iirc, bleem distributed the Emulator with the BIOS. Which that is fully owned by Sony so they ran into a Copyright suit then. Then they teamed up with a brick and mortar store to SELL copies of the emulator and that again got them suee, but now this time they had 8 suits on them, with each being million dollar suits. That’s when they (went bankrupt iirc) and bleem! Was no more. Sony has actually not been able to sue any other emulator developer since them. They’ve sued GEOHOTZ but as an individual (PSP hacker I believe ) but because I believe he released the source code of whatever he hacked. Wololo, one of the Vita hackers didn’t even get a slap on the wrist. Neither did the Google devs that hacked the PS Portal a few weeks ago.
Nintendo has a very weak case here. But we’ll see…
Hope Nintendo wins this, it is deserved for spoiling tears of the kingdom for me >:(
1.- Yuzu are NOT the ones that distributed the ROMs.
2.- You could still play the game on a hacked switch. Yuzu is not the only way to play switch ROMs
the issue seems to be less with the emulation itself or roms, but the method of which they include instruction for decryption of game keys… which is required for distributed roms to work, which in the US is cover by US copyright code §1201 which prohibits the bypass of DRM of copy written works.
There is a current 1201 exemption for game preservation, so Nintendo stating that there is no non-infringing reasons for Yuzu is likely incorrect.
People will hide behind “game preservation” except that it only works for games you can no longer buy or are very difficult to buy. TotK $70 isn’t a reason to pirate, price is justified and anyone who says otherwise is just copium.
+PCMasterRace
And what about people, myself included, that actually dump the games we paid for? Are we allowed to “hide” behind game preservation?
People like yourself are not who I’m referring to as you guys are doing the proper things, basically you guys are cool. It’s those that pirate cuz they don’t like a company or salty that a title like TotK being a quality game with a premium price being justified unlike titles like CoD or EA sports having a premium price which is not justified with little to offer and very low quality.
I bought both a physical copy and a digital copy but I still prefer to play on yuzu due to better frame rate and higher resolution. It’s not all piracy nor game preservation. But also preferring to play your legal copies on better faster hardware.
Soft manchild, get back to your menial job.
Well Nintendo hasn’t won any lawsuits regarding of the emulators. So, I think they are going to lose the lawsuit over this type of emulators. They may have won lawsuits during there recent years, but this one is far more different that we can possibly imagine.
How exactly is it different?
I’m really curious to hear your input
It’s so sad it had to come down to this, all they had to do is not close the 3DS, Wii and Wii U eshopes and fans wouldn’t have games missed. But Nintendo rather have fans pissed and can’t re-download old games already purchased that makes people feel dissed.
What? No, this is not about that.
Besides, keeping those stores open forever is ridiculous. Those consoles are not even produced anymore and the Wii U was a complete flop.
Will the Wii U couldn’t be too bad, most of those games are on the Switch can be had.
Wii U may have been a flop but its eshope sure was not.
you can still resownload games on those systems
I got DK64 on Wii U, if I erase it you saying it can come back like Pikachu?
You can redownload it on the eshop you dumb fuck. If you’re not going to delete it, dont bring it up bitch
Oh ho! These guys know they got teeth & won’t roll over like a bitch! I look forward to watching this play out.
i hope yuzu won this case.
Lets all pray, my man 👊
Why ?
No matter the context, no matter the reasons: piracy is theft, end of story. Nintendo is within its rights, anyone would have done the same, to pretend otherwise is just hypocrisy
Well said. Completely agree.
Exactly. And this is NOT piracy.
You’re within your rights to sue a ham sandwich for being too delicious so that doesn’t mean much. The question is whether or not Yuzu itself does anything that violates DMCA, which it most likely does not as previous legal precedent has held on other emulators
problem is, i dont think that previous systems hosted decryption algorithms to gain access to the firmware or software (which is firmly in the favour of Nintendo’s complaint)
That’s a really bad comparison. You should be euthanized for such pointless drivel
Copying is not theft. Stealing a thing means one less left.
The flaw with nintendos claim (in my opinion) is that they blame yuzu for 1 millions downloads of Zelda PRIOR to Nintendo releasing it. Stop and think about that. Is this an emulation issue or legality of emulation. It is a Nintendo issue that their employees leaked this game before they released it. They can blame emulation all they want but if people wanted to play the game and some idiot leaked it how is that yuzus fault. Nintendo should be mad at themselves.
The laughable thing is that game couldn’t run on Yuzu AFTER release without mods
Piracy is theft. End of story. There are hundreds of developers, programmers, artists etc that are being stolen.
Then sue the guys leaking and distributing ROMs, not Yuzu, who are deveoplers themselves.
Yuzu doesn’t distribute ROMs, so even with piracy being theft, which is an argument that is constantly in debate, Yuzu had zero culpability to the distribution of TotK.
Nintendo just hates emulators, which is hypocritical as they use them themselves in their products and services, and Yuzu is currently in their direct line of sight.
Again, “piracy is theft” does not apply to Yuzu as Yuzu and its development has absolutely nothing to do with the distribution of ROMs for Switch games.
super-profits are theft
extraordinarily common in the tech industry
mI hope that if nintendo looses, companies will stop going after emulators and other open source projects which “threaten” their sales. Lije the Mazda-Home Assistant case.
Lol. Nintendo’s accusations are pathetic. Glad they responded instead of taking Yuzu down.
Yuzu offers the possibility of playing the same game but in a better way. They are just using dirty tacticts to destroy their competition.
That’s why no one is clamoring for ps5 or series emulators. If switch was the better way to play then way less people would be using Yuzu. Stop wasting resources on lawsuits and put them into making consoles that won’t be outdated a year after release.
This marks the beginning of the end. If Yuzu loses, which seems inevitable due to monetary influence, it sets a precedent for other companies to crack down on all emulators. Essentially, it spells the demise of emulation, enabling companies to profit from re-releases. You’ll end up paying for the same game multiple times because individuals might not consider retrieving their old consoles from storage and will opt in to purchase the game again to play it. Once Yuzu falls, we’ll all be compelled to resort to consoles to experience retro games, or shell out money again for the privilege of playing them.
At the very least id hope they could come to an agreement to postpone development on yuzu and/or take it off the internet for a period of years so it aligns more with game conservation. At least then there’d be hope for the future
Nintendo has never won a suit against an emulator defeloper. Hopefully their money-grubbing asses get cooked on this one too for their gross overreach and ridiculous. unfounded paranoia.
A little tart (tard) like you would have mid take like this. A waste of space like you should be allowed outside
Hey, Sickr, ssf1991, et al.: have you ever considered adding reporting/moderating to these comment sections, or is it just “any engagement is good engagement”, even when people start tossing slurs around?
Yeesh. Little buddy needs a safe space when talking about kids entertainment
You are a worthless subhuman, beneath me in every way. Skin bag.
Sippy cup for the tard please. Little guy is having a meltdown
Of course worthless scumbags like you defend other slur-tossing corporate bootlickers.
Take that L and go play your little games. The short bus will be outside in a little, okay?
yill kourself
no L’s here, you’re the one sucking Nintendo’s dick, you should do the world a favor and shoot yourself directly in the head.
You take Ls the way your mom takes D. Not very well
I instructed you on what to do, subhuman, kill yourself, you fucking 12 year old babbling fuck.
I got you replying twice at a time. Useless, fatherless little boy, video games wont save you.
this is a fun time for me while resting, you silly little rightwing fuck. I will sleep soundly at night knowing you’ll never amount to nothing, I just hope you put yourself out of your misery before the suffering gets to be too much. Like I said, kill yourself, now.
Sorry I called you a tard, clearly it home a little too much.
Sending the a report to the site owner would be better. Just email them about this and they will get it in the next day.